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Android latest stats show Jelly Bean is most popular flavor

According to Apple’s latest numbers, 74% of all iOS devices out there are running iOS 7. Apple says that 22% of its iOS devices in customer hands are running iOS 6 and 4% are still running a version older than iOS 6.
 
These statistics came from measurements taken from the App Store during a 7-day period that ended on December 1.

 
By comparison, the latest statistics from Google show that Jelly Bean is still the most popular version of operating system. The latest data for Android was collected during a 7-day period ending on December 2. During that period, 37.4% of all Android devices ran Android 4.1.x.
 
The numbers show that 12.9% of Android devices ran Android 4.2.x with 4.2% running 4.3. That means that a total of 54.5% of all Android smartphones are running one of the Jelly Bean flavors. The latest version of Android is 4.4 KitKat and that OS is in use by 1.1% of Android devices.
 
A large number of Android users still run Gingerbread with various flavors of Gingerbread making up 24.1% of the Android market. The next most popular version of Android is Ice Cream Sandwich with 18.6%.
 
Interestingly, more Android users currently run Froyo (1.6%) than KitKat.

Sources: Apple, Google





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Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/6/13, Rating: 0
RE: Sooooo....
By techxx on 12/6/2013 11:07:11 AM , Rating: 3
For how little their phone has changed over the years, 74% isn't even all that good. Haha!


RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/6/2013 11:20:21 AM , Rating: 3
RE: Sooooo....
By DT_Reader on 12/6/2013 11:20:40 AM , Rating: 2
And that's 74% of what, something like 35% of the total market, tops? Android may have more versions, because Android is on many models from many manufacturers, so iOS 7 has a larger installed base than any one of them, but in the aggregate Android eats iOS's breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Meanwhile, Windows Phone 8 gets the after dinner mint.


RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/6/2013 11:24:55 AM , Rating: 1
Yup, that and all it supports. Different screen sizes, res's, chipsets, DPI's, NFC, SD, and a whole assload of other features that IOS doesn't support at all. Ultimately, its about what your phone does for you, not what version of the OS it runs.


RE: Sooooo....
By techxx on 12/6/2013 11:39:23 AM , Rating: 3
Apple likes to believe it's about running the latest version because that's all they really have going for them. I would even take ICS over iOS7 if I had to choose.


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/6/2013 9:24:44 PM , Rating: 2
Is security worth anything?


RE: Sooooo....
By Wazza1234 on 12/8/2013 8:16:38 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Different screen sizes, res's, chipsets, DPI's, NFC, SD, and a whole assload of other features that IOS doesn't support


- Screen sizes - check
- Res's - check
- Chipsets - check
- DPI's - check

- NFC - Unknown?
- SD - check

What were you saying about what iOS supports? Oh that's right, you were trying to deflect the reality that Android doesn't get updated by talking about the source of the problem , unaware that you're doing nothing at all to change the fact the problem exists and is significant.


RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/8/13, Rating: 0
RE: Sooooo....
By Solandri on 12/6/2013 11:47:07 AM , Rating: 3
That's Apple's share in the U.S. Their global smartphone market share is about 12%, down from 13% last quarter. Android's global market share is around 81%.

So yeah, 74% of 12% means about 9% of all smartphones are on iOS 7.

54.5% of 81% means about 44% of all smartphones are on Jelly Bean.


RE: Sooooo....
By Tony Swash on 12/6/2013 2:09:06 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/6/13, Rating: 0
RE: Sooooo....
By Tony Swash on 12/6/2013 3:49:30 PM , Rating: 1
Don't try so hard to justify your choice of phone, it makes you look desperate and anyway I don't care what phone you use. I am glad you like version 4 of Android, I am sure it makes you very happy, which is a good thing given how long it will take before you can upgrade.


RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/6/2013 3:55:00 PM , Rating: 2
"Don't try so hard to justify your choice of phone"

LOL... Coming from the ultimate Company based fanboy that is truly rich. I have 2 devices, a Nexus7 2013 and an LG G2 both currently running the absulute latest 4.4 TYVM.


RE: Sooooo....
By Tony Swash on 12/6/13, Rating: 0
RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/6/2013 5:12:58 PM , Rating: 2
Apparently Tony has trouble remembering what he passive aggressively said in the previous post.

"I am glad you like version 4 of Android, I am sure it makes you very happy, which is a good thing given how long it will take before you can upgrade"

Just say "Apple=good all others=bad" and make it easy on yourself. That is all you ever really say anyhow.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/6/2013 4:51:24 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Don't try so hard to justify your choice of phone


I think that much irony made my brains explode.


RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/6/2013 5:14:28 PM , Rating: 3
LOL... I know. That has to be the single most hypocritical things ever posted anywhere.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/6/2013 5:38:47 PM , Rating: 3
Yeah the guy who shot huge sticky wads all over us here at the prospect of Apple hitting $1k a share, accusing others...

it's just too much.


RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/6/2013 6:01:00 PM , Rating: 2
LOL... Yup. Meanwhile Google preps to split. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=goog


RE: Sooooo....
By Tony Swash on 12/6/2013 6:21:28 PM , Rating: 1
Relax. Your phone is great. Your OS is up to date and now the stock you don't own is doing really well. You are safe and validated. Well done.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/6/2013 6:44:09 PM , Rating: 2
Are you stuck on passive aggressive today or something?


RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/6/2013 7:12:44 PM , Rating: 2
He has nothing of value to add, so he just needs to act like a schmuck. As if the very conversation he is involved in and he voluntarily joined with his initial low brow comment is somehow beneath him.


RE: Sooooo....
By Tony Swash on 12/6/13, Rating: 0
RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/6/2013 8:29:11 PM , Rating: 2
"Why the angst?"

I think you are mistaking my calling you on your passive aggressive trolling as angst. It's all good to me, I have always enjoyed our friendly (and sometimes not so friendly) debates. You do seem quite ornery today though if I may say.


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/6/2013 9:30:31 PM , Rating: 2
I'm sure it does. It would be nice if Google would do a better job promoting their better more secure OS so the average users would reap the benefits.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/6/2013 5:32:35 PM , Rating: 2
Apple's US marketshare took a huge blow in 2013, while Android grabbed a huge chunk.

Apple's marketshare dropping so fast after a brand new iPhone release? Hmmmmm...

http://bgr.com/2013/12/02/ios-android-market-share...


RE: Sooooo....
By Tony Swash on 12/6/2013 6:38:25 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Apple's US marketshare took a huge blow in 2013, while Android grabbed a huge chunk.

Apple's marketshare dropping so fast after a brand new iPhone release? Hmmmmm...

http://bgr.com/2013/12/02/ios-android-market-share...


Apple's definitely doomed this time.


RE: Sooooo....
By Wazza1234 on 12/8/2013 8:19:02 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Apple's US marketshare took a huge blow in 2013, while Android grabbed a huge chunk.

Apple's marketshare dropping so fast after a brand new iPhone release? Hmmmmm...

http://bgr.com/2013/12/02/ios-android-market-share...


It takes someone special to talk about market share on Android being so great based on a survey showing usage, and showing iOS significantly ahead of Android.


RE: Sooooo....
By Solandri on 12/9/2013 8:29:10 AM , Rating: 1
Those are Net Applications stats (aka NetMarketShare). As I've explained before, they count unique visitors per month. iOS currently leads Android by that metric (though it's down from the 2x lead they had earlier in the year).

By pretty much any other measure, Android leads. If you could page hits (i.e. actual web usage), Android leads iOS by about 2x. If you count users, Android leads by almost 7x. iOS basically has a lot of users who occasionally use their devices to browse the web thus driving up the unique visitors stat. Android's users tend to be more polarized between those who don't browse the web at all, and those who browse it a lot. And the ones who browse the web a lot do so more than the sum total of all iOS users.

Net Applications' sample size is also the smallest of the big three network measuring companies. They sample about 40k websites. W3Counter samples about 70k websites (they also only count unique visitors, and show numbers similar to Net Application's). StatCounter samples 3+ million websites. They count page hits instead of unique visitors, and show Android leading iOS.

So yes, the fact that iOS is dropping on the only usage metric where it leads Android is noteworthy.


RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/9/2013 9:25:58 AM , Rating: 1
Don't even bother with him . Trollboy Testerguy/Wazza is trying to drag you into a conversation that no-one else is having.


RE: Sooooo....
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/9/2013 10:46:27 AM , Rating: 2
He doesn't care what you say, all he sees in 1 stat is APPLE HAS MOAR! IT'S BETTER!

It's sad and pathetic at the same time... it truly is.


RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/9/2013 11:06:57 AM , Rating: 2
I don't even think he believes the crap he posts, he just likes to argue and act an ass to try and piss people off.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/9/2013 9:27:10 AM , Rating: 2
The only place iOS enjoys a lead is in North America, and that lead is eroding quickly.

Global market share? iOS is a distant second to Android. Way distant.

And I'm not saying Android is great because of marketshare. I'm saying it's marketshare is so high because it's a great OS that meets the needs of a wide variety of users across an unlimited range of devices.


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/6/2013 9:23:42 PM , Rating: 2
And with all those variations of Android out there I would assume each version from so many different manufacturers leave many vulnerable Android devices in the wild.

I think that's the jab Apple is taking.


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/6/2013 9:19:24 PM , Rating: 2
I think with the statistics it's not about options it's trying to make. Its that iPhone users statistically should be better protected for KNOWN threats.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/7/2013 10:16:15 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Its that iPhone users statistically should be better protected for KNOWN threats.


You talk about these mobile OS's as if they were Windows. Having to be patched weekly or monthly for security threats and exploits.

This doesn't happen in the mobile world.

Can you even name a "known" threat in the wild that Android users need an update to protect them from?

Your argument is just weak.


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/7/2013 3:59:52 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Android devices are directly in the crosshairs of hackers as threats proliferate and the user-base expands with little thought given to security. The report shows the number of malicious and high-risk Android apps has grown to 718,000 in the second quarter – a massive increase from the 509,000 high-risk apps found in the previous quarter.

These malicious apps are on track to exceed one million by year's end, a
quote:
Text
s predicted by Trend Micro in the 2013 forecast. By way of comparison, it took a decade for PC malware to amass this number.


There are also toolkits available for Android attacks. I'm not listing this source, you can VERY easily find your own and many others with a simple search.

quote:
Your argument is just weak.

What would it take 2 million malicious apps to convince you?

quote:
You talk about these mobile OS's as if they were Windows

Your right they are not, Windows is more secure.

quote:
This doesn't happen in the mobile world.

Better to let people think you a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.


RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/7/2013 6:30:29 PM , Rating: 2
You read up a little. Not alot... Android 2.x is vulnerable. 2 years ago 4.0 came out and its not. All that hoopla is on 2.x


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/7/2013 7:55:03 PM , Rating: 2
When Android phone manufacturers tweak devices and customize phones with special software, apps and code, it has a direct effect on the security of each device. In some cases, the changes made can account for more than 60 percent of vulnerabilities found in devices
In the study, researchers looked at 10 different Android smartphones (HTC One X, Galaxy Nexus S3, etc.) from five different vendors, two per vendor, one per generation (pre-2012 2.x build and post-2012 4.x build) and examined the security flaws that stemmed from each device’s customized setups.
Perhaps the most troubling trend in the study and something that may beckon a change in the way vendors pre-load their devices in the future is that there really wasn’t much of a difference in the amount of vulnerabilities from one generation of phones to the next
Eighty-two percent of the apps scanned came customized by the vendor and 86 percent of those apps wound up being what the researchers called overprivileged, meaning they “unnecessarily request more Android permissions than they actually use.”

Again you can find this information yourself with a simple search.

My point as well as Apples is that a OS that is current is more secure to known threats. With so much vendor and carrier customization no one is taking responsibility to PROACTIVELY protect users with Android. Your only protected if you buy a new model with new OS because no one cares if you don't.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/7/2013 9:53:02 PM , Rating: 1
So much hyperbole and FUD here, it's amazing you visit a tech blog. Even one as...casual as Daily Tech.

quote:
Eighty-two percent of the apps scanned came customized by the vendor and 86 percent of those apps wound up being what the researchers called overprivileged, meaning they “unnecessarily request more Android permissions than they actually use.”


Excuse me but the Google Play store informs the user about EVERY permission an app requests before you install it. You have to "agree" to them before you can. Apple's OS, who's security you so covet, doesn't even let you view the app permissions!

Furthermore, Android allows you to directly MANAGE application permissions. And this doesn't even require root. You can deny, or allow, apps to any area you see fit. Try THAT on iOS, I dare you.

quote:
With so much vendor and carrier customization no one is taking responsibility to PROACTIVELY protect users with Android.


More hyperbole and BS. Carriers like T-Mobile and AT&T include security software on their phones. I believe Samsung does this as well on most models. Is that not "PROACTIVELY" protecting users enough for you?

quote:
My point as well as Apples is that a OS that is current is more secure to known threats.


What threat? The only threat out there is installing stuff from third party shady sources! If you stick to the Play store, you're golden.


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/7/2013 11:31:45 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Furthermore, Android allows you to directly MANAGE application permissions. And this doesn't even require root. You can deny, or allow, apps to any area you see fit. Try THAT on iOS, I dare you.
quote>

My point exactly. Joe blow phone user doesn't know what you are even talking about. Which make them less secure. It doesn't matter how much you can tweak it if the majority of your customers don't even understand or care.

quote:
More hyperbole and BS.

I forget what a genius you are. I guess the college that did the study are morons. They should have checked with you first.

I'm no Apple fan, can't stand the company, would never touch their products. But an ignorant fan boy is worse.

You missed quoting the part about Android having more security issues compared to what took a PC 10 years to reach. I guess it doesn't fit your misdirection.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/8/2013 12:18:04 AM , Rating: 2
Oh I see. So when the facts disprove your argument, you switch to what this faceless "average" person may or may not know. You're pathetic.

The average person is NOT going to sideload apps or use other app markets. Hello? In which case your chance of getting an infection is less than 1%. Or did that statistical fact somehow elude your "research".

quote:
You missed quoting the part about Android having more security issues compared to what took a PC 10 years to reach.


.....

This statement only has impact if you're an idiot. There wasn't even an Internet during the first 10 years of the PC. The world wasn't as connected then as it is now. So of course there weren't as many security issues!


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/8/2013 12:44:02 AM , Rating: 2
74% of Apple users are more secure from known threats today than before they upgraded. Only 1.1% of Android users even have the latest version. The app store app verification is an indirect approach to security. Upgrading your OS is a direct approach.

I hate it when a fan boy causes me to try and give credit to Apple a company I hate.

I'm done, I hate Apple so I'm not their fan boy. I'll let you keep waxing poetically. I can't compete with the Steve Jobs of Android.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/8/2013 12:55:43 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I hate Apple so I'm not their fan boy.


Well you have a funny way of showing that. iOS this, Apple that, bla bla bla.

Maybe you could acknowledge an ecosystem that focuses on just TWO unique devices (iPhone/iPad) is going to have far less issues than one who needs to support hundreds?

quote:
Only 1.1% of Android users even have the latest version.


Wtf KitKat has been out for like a month. Do you seriously expect the tens of millions of Android devices to be running it overnight, world wide?

You know what, I'm done too. I have better things to do with my night than fight the same old fight with Apple fanbois.

Considering the sheer size and scope of the ecosystem and range of devices, Android security is damn good. And it's going to keep improving. If that's not good enough for you, oh well!


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/8/2013 2:39:47 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Maybe you could acknowledge an ecosystem that focuses on just TWO unique devices (iPhone/iPad) is going to have far less issues than one who needs to support hundreds?quote>

Wtf that's one point I've been trying to make this whole time. But I forgot you didn't think of it.

quote:
Wtf KitKat has been out for like a month. Do you seriously expect the tens of millions of Android devices to be running it overnight, world wide?


Excuse me cherry pick. It's still less than half even have the version before that or even before that. Does that sound better. For the obtuse people the point is they are far behind current for majority of users. Don't get stuck on stupid.


RE: Sooooo....
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/8/2013 10:29:50 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Well you have a funny way of showing that. iOS this, Apple that, bla bla bla.
Apple trolls are simply amazing...

"I am not a fan boy!"

But defend every single aspect of the company, nothing good to say about the competition, everything is good about Apple, and TYP, same shit, yet they don't see it...


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/8/2013 11:21:43 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah he keeps saying he "hates" Apple but is bending the reality of time and space to make Android look like sh*t. Oooookay!


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/8/2013 12:51:30 PM , Rating: 2
Two questions.

1. Are Apple user (74&) with the current OS more secure against known issues than those who have not?

2. Are Android users with the current OS or even the version before (less than 50%) more secure than those with an older OS (over 50%)?

Let us see who the fan boys are. Or will there be silence and misdirection?


RE: Sooooo....
By Wazza1234 on 12/8/2013 8:07:22 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Maybe you could acknowledge an ecosystem that focuses on just TWO unique devices (iPhone/iPad) is going to have far less issues


Earth to Captain Special. That's been his point the entire time, that iOS users have fewer issues.

Your incessant crying is like a guy in a Ford at the traffic lights next to a guy in a Ferrari, saying 'Ford have to make more cars, that's the only reason your car is better'. It doesn't matter WHY, the ford IS worse, just like Android DOES have more security issues.


RE: Sooooo....
By Monkey's Uncle on 12/8/13, Rating: 0
RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/8/2013 10:22:33 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
ANDROID 4 has a total user base of 74.2%
APPLE iOS7 has a total user base of 74.0%

Which one is LOWER boys?


Android 4.0 came out in Oct. 2011. In 2 years and how many updates since 2011 and only 74.2%?

Just to point out I think the security of 4.0 would not be on par with kitkat. Which still is my point.

You are apples to oranges.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/8/2013 10:37:02 PM , Rating: 2
I think the point is you're retarded.


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/8/2013 11:57:40 PM , Rating: 2
You hurt my feelings, happy holidays.


RE: Sooooo....
By Monkey's Uncle on 12/9/2013 9:51:45 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
quote:
ANDROID 4 has a total user base of 74.2%
APPLE iOS7 has a total user base of 74.0%
Which one is LOWER boys?

Android 4.0 came out in Oct. 2011. In 2 years and how many updates since 2011 and only 74.2%? Just to point out I think the security of 4.0 would not be on par with kitkat. Which still is my point. You are apples to oranges.


Not sure why you think the security on KitKat is r4eally all that much better than Android 4.0 since they are the same Android version .

How do YOU know security is really any better in iOS 7.0.0 compared to iOS 7.0.4 or even iOS 6? Perhaps can show us your security analysis for each of these? While you are at it how about showing us your security gap analysis between Android 4.0.0 and Android 4.4.

What's that? You don't have any of that? LOL.

I also believe I have already addressed why Android 4 has "only" 74.2 percent adoption. You however have not explained why iOS 7, which has been out since Sept 2012, has "only" 74 percent adoption on a SINGLE HARDWARE VENDOR'S PLATFORM.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/8/2013 11:05:06 PM , Rating: 2
Great post, you just ended this argument soundly. What more is there to say?

I can't believe that guy has kept this farce going so long.

You know what this honestly reminds me of? The Mac vs Windows debates of the 90's 2000's. The Apple crowd was adamant of their platforms superiority and security, oblivious that the rest of the world didn't care what they thought.

Android is the Windows of the mobile world. It's ubiquitous, so it's naturally going to be targeted more. But is the sky falling? Nope.


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/8/2013 11:56:21 PM , Rating: 2
Your OS that came out in Oct 2011 proves something. Read on. You must have missed a post. It makes you look silly.

All this talk of kitkat I had to get me a king size, it's been awhile.

I also wanted to thank you for all you beta testing, I use Windows phone. Now lets see how you still miss the point of the article and my posts and go on about Windows phone. Windows phone 8 gets updated like Apple for know security issues.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/9/2013 9:49:06 AM , Rating: 2
I'm done with your pedantic "points". You have none, you have goalposts you conveniently move whenever a counterpoint is presented.

quote:
I use Windows phone.


quote:
Windows phone 8 gets updated like Apple for know security issues.


Windows Phone has the slowest update cycle on the planet. Wow, the FUD that comes from you is just...amazing!

You honestly believe Windows Phone users are updated more frequently than Android? Just..AHAHAH!


RE: Sooooo....
By Wazza1234 on 12/8/2013 8:04:33 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
In which case your chance of getting an infection is less than 1%


Did you intend for your own comment to prove you wrong, or just stupid?


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/7/2013 7:57:14 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You read up a little


Sounds like good advice.


RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/7/2013 10:19:38 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/8/2013 12:13:33 AM , Rating: 2
What the hell was that. I check your link and clicked the back button and Google search blocks me with a pop up ad. No wonder I don't use them. That would get annoying.


RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/8/2013 7:01:11 AM , Rating: 2
There are no popup ads on Google. That is lmgtfy.com that i linked, and I have never seen a popup ad there, maybe check your system.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/8/2013 9:31:33 AM , Rating: 1
I just tried duplicating his story using 4 different browsers across two different PC's, both on default settings - no ad block. Two different Android tablets and a smartphone.

Not once could I get a blocking pop-up, or any kind of pop-up, to appear.

For someone who goes on and on about security, looks like he's been to one too many kiddie porn sites.


RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/8/2013 10:16:45 AM , Rating: 2
Newbs... You try to help, but ultimately they need to gain their own experience points in order to advance.


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/8/2013 1:20:41 PM , Rating: 2
New as in I'm not already one of Googles products they sell. They can't target ads from my phone, my email, my documents, my pictures, my laptop or tablet, so when someone posts a link to their search engine alls they can do is hit me the old fashion way with annoying pop ups. They already have all they want from you. Newb


RE: Sooooo....
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/8/2013 1:57:16 PM , Rating: 2
Except, Google doesn't up popups...

So it's not Google...

n00b...


RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/8/2013 3:44:39 PM , Rating: 2
"New as in I'm not already one of Googles products they sell"

No, new as in cant identify Google.com from LMGTFY.com and doesn't know how to manage pop-ups, that was all that meant.

Whatever, it's all good... If you are concerned about those things then don't use any of it. You are missing out on the best of the best over a bit of unfounded paranoia, but that's OK. Some people are just more paranoid than they are informed. People like that keep alot of companies in business ;)


RE: Sooooo....
By Wazza1234 on 12/8/2013 8:09:44 PM , Rating: 1
Why are you guys ranting on about whether he can tell Google from LMGTFY or not?

Is it because yet again someone out-debated you and you need to turn to something for consolation?

If you want anyone reading to give you any credibility you should try addressing his points rather than attacking his knowledge of something else entirely.


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/8/2013 1:11:39 PM , Rating: 2
It's an add from google. I guess I'm targeted because I don't use them. You may not have the issue because the ads are already in your in box.


RE: Sooooo....
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/8/2013 4:59:41 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I guess I'm targeted because I don't use them. You may not have the issue because the ads are already in your in box.
Again, no, you are wrong.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/8/2013 6:06:52 PM , Rating: 2
He's so computer illiterate he can't even read an address bar...


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/8/2013 6:57:00 PM , Rating: 2
The point is it doesn't happen on Bing. I forget you have to adjust and tweak your settings when you touch a Google service. I'm not use to losing privacy so easily.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/8/2013 7:02:35 PM , Rating: 2
The point is, YOU have a problem. Not Google.

http://www.google.com/help/nopopupads.html

There are NO popup ads on Google. Period.


RE: Sooooo....
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/8/2013 7:10:21 PM , Rating: 2
The real point is, it's NOT GOOGLE...as much as you can't stand them, it's ISN'T THEM...


RE: Sooooo....
By Monkey's Uncle on 12/8/2013 9:40:04 PM , Rating: 2
He's doing it wrong. 'Nuff said - that shoots his credibility right there.


RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/8/2013 9:41:55 PM , Rating: 2
Food, we are telling you it is NOT Google, it is lmgtfy.com. get it? That isn't Google. FFS what is wrong with you?


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/9/2013 9:29:50 AM , Rating: 2
But...but...the picture says "Google". It even looks like Google! Therefore, it MUST be Google!!!!

lol this guy...wow.


RE: Sooooo....
By Monkey's Uncle on 12/9/2013 10:39:21 AM , Rating: 2
He is the phishing industry's perfect victim.


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/9/2013 12:58:05 PM , Rating: 2
Again you miss the point. If I do the same search on Bing it doesn't happen. It happens on a google search. If it's not google then they suck because Bing doesn't allow OTHERS to produce these pop ups from others, Google does.

I understand Google doesn't directly do it. I clicked your link and just hit the back button. Google the add at the bottom of the page became a pop up without clinking on it. A little wink wink nod nod on Googles part.


RE: Sooooo....
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/9/2013 1:06:31 PM , Rating: 2
And yet again, since you quite obviously missed it..

http://www.google.com/help/nopopupads.html

It's not Google...

One more time, so maybe you will get it through your thick skull....

http://www.google.com/help/nopopupads.html

quote:
Are pop-up ads allowed on Google? Google does not allow pop-up ads of any kind on our site. We find them annoying. So why do they occasionally appear when you search on Google? Here are a few possible explanations: You may have encountered a squatter with an address similar to Google's. Occasionally, individuals will register domain names that are one letter off from a well-known URL in hopes of attracting those who make mistakes in their typing. Please be sure to enter www.google.com into your browser and the pop-ups may go away. Or, if you are running Windows, just add the free Google Toolbar to your browser by visiting http://toolbar.google.com/. Another possibility is that you visited a site while surfing, and that site launched pop-up windows in the background. These ads are known in the advertising industry as "pop-unders." Other web pages trigger pop-ups when a user leaves that site. When you came to Google, the windows may have become visible. Again, we do not condone this practice and do not allow it on Google. If you have installed some free programs, especially music-sharing programs such as BearShare or AudioGalaxy, you may have installed other programs as well. These tiny "time bombs" can show pop-ups at random intervals or based on anything you type on a web page. A brief description of these programs can be found in these articles: http://news.com.com/2100-1023-257592.html and http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,49960,... If you are experiencing pop-ups generated by one of these malicious programs, you may want to remove the pop-up program from your computer. One program that attempts to detect and to uninstall pop-up programs is available at http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10106-108-638... We have no relationship with the individuals who created this software and cannot vouch for it ourselves. If you feel you were deceived when you installed a program that creates pop-ups, you may want to take action. The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) handles complaints about deceptive or unfair business practices. To file a complaint, visit: http://www.ftc.gov/ and click on "File a Complaint Online", call 1-877-FTC-HELP, or write to: Federal Trade Commission CRC-240 Washington, D.C. 20580 If your complaint is against a company in another country, please file it at http://www.econsumer.gov/. We wish you luck in your quest to quell pop-ups. If you'd like more information on the advertising we do accept on Google, you'll find it by visiting this page: http://www.google.com/ads/. If you have other questions, you may find the answers on our frequently asked questions page. If you follow all these suggestions and still have a "pop-up problem" on Google, feel free to write to us. It will help us if you can right-click on the pop-up window and select "Properties" from the drop down menu. If you write us, include the url address that you see, so we can investigate the source of the pop-ups.


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/9/2013 7:55:34 PM , Rating: 2
One more time and maybe you'll get it. It doesn't happen for any search while I use Bing. It happened on a Google search. Is that simple enough for you.

I don't care if Google directly did it or not. It happens. Not on Bing, not on yahoo. So if you use Google someone will give pop ups.

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to see the difference.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/9/2013 8:27:08 PM , Rating: 2
Oh
my
god!

/bashes head on desk.

Dude are you just trolling now?


RE: Sooooo....
By retrospooty on 12/10/2013 10:39:38 AM , Rating: 2
"/bashes head on desk."

Totally... WTF? He cant be that thick headed, he HAS to be messing with us. If he was that braindead, he couldn't possibly find this site day after day.

http://i.imgur.com/mP2mgeb.png


RE: Sooooo....
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/9/2013 8:32:28 PM , Rating: 1
Hey dipshit, maybe one more time, and YOU will get it, GOOGLE DOESN'T GIVE YOU POPUPS. Is THAT simple enough for YOU?

It doesn't happen, that's the fucking point, Google SAYS it doesn't happen and ISN'T ALLOWED ON THEIR SITE. IS THAT SIMPLE ENOUGH FOR YOU YET?

You surely aren't a rocket scientist, in fact, you seem down right ignorant, even when Google's OWN policy is PLACED in front of you.


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/8/2013 12:32:43 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
If there's one major issue that Android has, it's the fact that Google can't deliver security patches directly to users. These updates must go through phone makers and wireless carriers, and that can take a long time. Even so, Google has tried to work around the problem by using Google Play Services to deliver app verification to older phones.


We can go back and forth all day. The point of this article was that if 74% of Apple devices are on newest version, great for Apple. Better security then before. The customer benefits.
Some come on and go on and on about sales numbers and choice when the articles about security. Apple has 74% on newest OS, Google only 1.1%. So as the quote I just posted says Google play uses app verification. Good job Google, customer wins. In the rest of the article from the quote Erik Schmidt admits security is more difficult without that walled garden.

So if Apple has done something good for their consumers isn't that a good thing. (I hate apple as much or more than you.)


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/8/2013 10:08:10 AM , Rating: 1
Kitkat has been out barely a month. iOS 7 went live in September!

Of course Apple has a higher percentage on the newest OS than Android. Are you mental?

quote:
So if Apple has done something good for their consumers isn't that a good thing.


Are you 12?


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/8/2013 1:29:46 PM , Rating: 2
I throw you a bone. Only about 18% of Android users are running the latest 3 versions. How long have they been out?

94% apple on latest 2 version's. Does that help make your point?

You don't have to believe I dislike Apple. Because I dislike fud even more. If Apple, Google, MS, or any one does something to help or protect the user, great. Don't be an Android Brown Shirt.


RE: Sooooo....
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/8/2013 1:58:53 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
You don't have to believe I dislike Apple.
Good, because we don't...


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/8/2013 3:36:58 PM , Rating: 2
No response to the rest, figured. That's all you could pull off.


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/8/2013 6:57:52 PM , Rating: 2
And yet every time I bring up solid and effective protections that Google and other Android handset makers have put in place, you blow them off.

ALL you care about is OS version. As if that's the holy grail of security. You're basically saying not being on the latest version means you're inherently insecure. That is FUD, and you haven't backed it up with facts.

Fragmentation is a strength of Android, not a weakness. You would think after all this time, you haters would get that.

If someone wants to use a device that is so low-end it can't run ICS/Jellybean, I may not envy them, but at least they have that option.

quote:
Because I dislike fud even more


Since you like throwing around statistics so much, I've determined that about 85% of your posts have been FUD. The entire premise of many of your argument look sound on the surface, but are fundamentally flawed upon further inspection. And you keep on truckin' as if you're winning a race.


RE: Sooooo....
By Wazza1234 on 12/8/2013 8:11:46 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Kitkat has been out barely a month. iOS 7 went live in September!

Of course Apple has a higher percentage on the newest OS than Android. Are you mental?


quote:
I throw you a bone. Only about 18% of Android users are running the latest 3 versions. How long have they been out?


Lol. Owned.


RE: Sooooo....
By Monkey's Uncle on 12/9/2013 3:32:41 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I throw you a bone.

Only about 18% of Android users are running the latest 3 versions. How long have they been out? 94% apple on latest 2 version's. Does that help make your point? You don't have to believe I dislike Apple. Because I dislike fud even more. If Apple, Google, MS, or any one does something to help or protect the user, great. Don't be an Android Brown Shirt.


Actually 74.2% of android users are running the latest VERSION (4.x)

Actually 74% of apple users are running the latest VERSION (7)

1.1% of Android users are on the latest RELEASE (4.4 aka KitKat).

Exactly how many are on Apple iOS latest RELEASE (7.0.4)? You have yet to answer THAT question.

The bigger question is if iOS 7.x is so great, why are only 74% of people using it rather than 100% (or even 80%)? It is not like Apple has to support multiple hardware platforms or vendors here - only their own. Should be a no-brainer for them to deal with.

So smart guy (or any other CRAPPLE fanboys here), answer the questions. How many on iOS 7.0.4 and why is the adoption rate only 74%?


RE: Sooooo....
By Monkey's Uncle on 12/9/2013 3:22:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
We can go back and forth all day. The point of this article was that if 74% of Apple devices are on newest version, great for Apple. Better security then before. The customer benefits. Some come on and go on and on about sales numbers and choice when the articles about security. Apple has 74% on newest OS, Google only 1.1%. So as the quote I just posted says Google play uses app verification. Good job Google, customer wins. In the rest of the article from the quote Erik Schmidt admits security is more difficult without that walled garden.

So if Apple has done something good for their consumers isn't that a good thing. (I hate apple as much or more than you.)


I have already addressed this above, but I will echo that here. You say 74% of APPLE USERS are on iOS 7. Ok, Fine. By that same token 74.2% of Android users are on Android 4. Yet you and that dumbass that wrote this article assert that only 1.1% are on Android's latest version which I am here and now calling BS on you BOTH. 74.2% of Android's users are RUNNING THE LATEST VERSION.

So if you want to compare the number on Android RELEASE 4.4 (an apple) with Apple iOS 7.0.4 (an apple), then provide the number of users running Apple iOS RELEASE 7.0.4 (an apple) not users running iOS VERSION 7 (an orange).

So, did you get it yet? Or did this one fly right over your head yet again.
So what?


RE: Sooooo....
By Reclaimer77 on 12/7/2013 9:32:25 PM , Rating: 2
Ah I see the problem here. You set out to prove a hypothesis with no foreknowledge of the issue, and found Internet evidence to back up your claim.

Problem is you aren't putting those numbers in any context. In places like China, users have forgone the Google Play store and are using third party app sources, installing unverified and infected apps.

When you break down Trend Micro's numbers regionally, you see in first-world nations like the US, infected Android devices in the wild are around ~1%. Yes, that's on the rise. However considering that Androids market-share is also increasing year after year, that rise is only logical.

No operating system will save you from unknowingly installing malware. Jailbroken iOS devices have this same issue, if you cared about being impartial. They too can install infected apps from third party sources.

quote:
Your right they are not, Windows is more secure.


Windows is more secure than ANY mobile environment, by far. Why you bothered to counter a point I wasn't even making with this quip is silly.

quote:
Better to let people think you a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.


I think you're the one making a fool out of yourself here. Next time use some brains along with your Google searches.


RE: Sooooo....
By rsmech on 12/6/2013 9:10:41 PM , Rating: 2
I'm wondering if the point is a more current, more updated, more patched OS is more secure than an older OS. Does Google send out regular updates? I don't know but I thought there was an article about this before. If your Joe Blow mom or pop is your older Android device as secure as having the newer Android OS or is the difference only features?


More Resonably...
By Flunk on 12/6/2013 10:36:07 AM , Rating: 2
Why don't they compare the OS versions of their first-party phones vs Google's. Otherwise they're just comparing Apples to oranges. It's not up to Google to roll out updates to Samsung, LG, HTC, Huawei and whoever else's phones.




RE: More Resonably...
By DT_Reader on 12/6/2013 11:16:02 AM , Rating: 2
"Apples to oranges" - LOL, you made a funny!


RE: More Resonably...
By rsmech on 12/6/2013 9:35:51 PM , Rating: 3
That's the problem the statistics point out. Nobody is taking responsibility to protect Android users. The point is if a larger percentage of iPhones are on a current OS they are more secure against KNOWN current and past security flaws. Where does Android stand?


RE: More Resonably...
By xti on 12/9/2013 1:11:21 PM , Rating: 2
thats the side effect of having an OS on 3rd party OEM phones.

If iOS was on phones made by other-than-apple manufactures, im sure the same trend would be in place, where the latest iOS isnt as strong in all phones as it is today.


juliana
By juliana on 12/7/2013 1:49:34 AM , Rating: 2
i ALWAYS THING THERE SHOULD BE a hard option for typing, thanks Typo solved this problem GO for it :)




RE: juliana
By retrospooty on 12/7/2013 9:28:02 AM , Rating: 1
On purpose or random words typed together in a group?

I am can don't be sense.


please forgive me!
By rsmech on 12/9/2013 1:34:23 PM , Rating: 2
If Google served kool-aid I'd be worried.

We all love OUR devices. But don't be blind.

My opinion:
Apple hardware and OS company cons: controlling, restrictive against industry innovation. Pros: they have quality control of their products, should be able to roll out security updated effectively (if they admit to them).

Google advertising and serviced and hardware (Motorola) company cons: invasive, software data mines you for marketing purposes (free actually comes at a price), less control over immediate risks, open source. Pros: open source, innovative, well integrated software and services. Nice hardware. Allowed more affordable hardware in the marketplace.

MS software, hardware company cons: Windows 8 (not including myself), slow to market, heading towards unified OS for devices (1 virus for all). Pros: Windows 8 (me), OS available to other mfg. (as Android) although not free. Office, good integration of services.

The point is you can love what you want just don't be blind to their weaknesses. My preference order would be MS, Android, Apple. That's just me, I'm aware of each strength and weakness. One isn't best at all.

Pick it apart all you want but then you missed the point again.




recent updates
By andrewaggb on 12/9/2013 5:43:48 PM , Rating: 2
Well my wifes GS3 got a 4.1 to 4.3 update last week and my note 2 also got a 4.1 to 4.3 update last week.

Not sure what the global rollout looks like, but I'm betting there are tonnes of GS3 and Note 2 users who either just got updated or will be getting updated to 4.3 shortly.

Anyways, yes apple is better at pushing out OS updates. That said, I was fine with android 4.1 and 4.3 is not much better/different. seems a little smoother.

The os updates was a really big deal in the android 1.5/6 2.1/2.2/2.3 days. Not as important anymore.




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