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Apple isn't buying NPD's sales analysis

Yesterday, DailyTech reported on the news that the plethora of Android-based smartphones on the market have finally jumped ahead of Apple's iPhone in the United States. The numbers pegged Android's market share at 28 percent while smartphones running iPhone OS were a bit further back at 21 percent.

We never expected Apple to respond to NPD's numbers -- the company is usually "above" such responses and marches to its own drumbeat. However, the news picked up steam all across the internet yesterday and Apple felt the need to respond.

Apple spokeswoman Natalie Harrison gave a statement to John Paczkowski which he posted on his Digital Daily blog:

This is a very limited report on 150,000 US consumers responding to an online survey and does not account for the more than 85 million iPhone and iPod touch customers worldwide. IDC figures show that iPhone has 16.1 percent of the smartphone market and growing, far outselling Android on a worldwide basis. We had a record quarter with iPhone sales growing by 131 percent and with our new iPhone OS 4.0 software coming this summer, we see no signs of the competition catching up anytime soon.

Paczkowski makes a point of noting that while NPD's numbers don't give a snapshot of the global smartphone market and only surveyed 150,000 customers, Apple isn't exactly being straightforward either. The Apple spokeswoman points out that over 85 million iPhone and iPod touches have been sold, despite the fact that the iPod touch is in no way a smartphone -- in actuality, only 55 million iPhones have been sold to date.



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Here goes
By bug77 on 5/11/2010 5:26:38 PM , Rating: 5
First phase: denial.

And did anyone else find it funny iPod touch was mentioned in the context?




RE: Here goes
By bplewis24 on 5/11/2010 5:53:26 PM , Rating: 5
Not only do they mention iPod Touch for no apparent reason (well, the reason was obviously to inflate the huge number they were throwing at us of $85 million), but they also mention their "16.1 market share" figure to illustrate that they are outselling Android on a "worldwide" basis, even though this NPD research was a domestic U.S. study, and not worldwide.

In short, to refute this Domestic U.S. Smartphone study, they bring up iPod Touches and worldwide market share figures. What is the cost of that? Not much. But the fact that Apple lemmings will repeat those figures to their friends as gospel? Priceless.

Brandon


RE: Here goes
By sebmel on 5/11/10, Rating: -1
RE: Here goes
By mcnabney on 5/11/2010 8:37:58 PM , Rating: 5
Jobs wants to talk about total sales numbers versus market share.

Why?

Because the iDrones always buy. The average iPhone3GS owner also has an iPhone3G, iPhone, and a Touch at home as well. Unfortunately for Jobs that one person still only counts for one when considering marketshare. Since Android is young the average Android user just owns a Droid, a Backflip, or a Hero. They probably also have an old Treo and a Curve at home too. So the Apple customer is only maintaining marketshare for Jobs, but the Android customer represents growth. We probably won't know what the long term trend for marketshare is going to be until this time next year. By then we will know if Win Phone 7 can reclaim share and if WebOS is going to continue after Pre/Pixi.

Personally I believe that Android is going to continue to eat Microsoft's lunch and finish off Palm's milkshake. If RIM doesn't modernize their product I anticipate Android moving closer to 40% while RIM drops down to 25%. Apple has filled their niche. They should have gotten out from under AT&T in 1Q. They just aren't unique anymore....


RE: Here goes
By sebmel on 5/11/2010 8:50:50 PM , Rating: 5
"Personally I believe that Android is going to continue to eat Microsoft's lunch and finish off Palm's milkshake."

I hope not. Imagine a market in which Google, Microsoft, Apple, Rim and HP are competing like hell for our mobile phone purchases. We know what a monopoly gets you... overpriced buggy software, bad terms on licensing and new versions that repackage the old bugs with a new GUI. We aren't getting that from Microsoft now because Linux and Mac OS are offering an option, and because too many old customers see sticking with XP as yet another option. How much better for us would it be if there were a vibrant 5 way battle?

Bring on the competition... it brings on the future.


RE: Here goes
By Chaser on 5/12/2010 8:49:08 AM , Rating: 2
Now that Apple has made the "smart phone" a household name, we have a new population of "smarter" smart phone users. Hopefully some of those people will open their eyes to other options. Sure the "iDroids" will stay suckled to Job's but some will be open to other options.

Advantage, Android.


RE: Here goes
By sebmel on 5/11/2010 8:59:47 PM , Rating: 3
"Jobs wants to talk about total sales numbers versus market share."

Yeah, I have seen him talk about it often but I suspect it isn't Apple's focus. If you see how profitable Apple has been and how difficult the last few years have been for Dell you realise that Apple has been boxing clever. It has been cherry picking: taking the profitable part of the market and ignoring overall sales.

If you consider that Apple hasn't added cheap models of iPhone I think it's reasonable to assume that it is doing the same again with phones. Apple sells way less phones than Nokia but its phones profits are up there with Nokia's.

Just an idea.


RE: Here goes
By Calindar on 5/11/2010 10:11:09 PM , Rating: 5
Yep, Apple takes mediocre hardware, packages it into a shiny package with a pretty logo, and sells it at a premium price to every sucker that doesn't know diddly about what they are actually buying. It really is brilliant.


RE: Here goes
By FredEx on 5/12/2010 6:39:19 AM , Rating: 3
Well put.

People I know doing Apples have bought all the devices they come out with. They get the new models of them all then. If they bought just one IPod, ITouch, IPhone and IPad, you then have only one person owning 4. Most Apple nuts I know have multiple IPods...they HAD to have the new one with a larger hard drive, had to have the mini, and so on.

It would be interesting to see a study on how many of the devices each Apple nut owns. I'm sure they'd all love to brag about all of them they own. I would not be surprised to hear that 85 Million sales of all the devices is more like 20 Million actual owners.


RE: Here goes
By Tony Swash on 5/12/10, Rating: -1
RE: Here goes
By Targon on 5/12/2010 8:09:37 AM , Rating: 1
You can't argue that anyone who buys EVERY Apple device that comes out is a bit foolish. There is ZERO reason to buy an iPod Touch if you have an iPhone for example. The iPod is one of the few devices that I feel is a pretty good device overall, but Apple does go on a "number of sales" basis, since they DO inflate the price of their products so much, their per-unit profit is higher than many other companies.

Actual sales NUMBERS, and market share numbers I suspect are WAY off and are inflated for Apple. Yes, you see a bunch of iPhones out there for example, but the percentage of the overall smartphone market isn't even close to the 1 out of 5 mark(20 percent). Blackberry devices are out there in huge numbers, and for corporate use, the iPhone has many areas where other devices are better.

If anything, you can thank the incompetence in marketing departments of other companies for the success of the iPhone. No marketing people seem to understand how to push the STRENGTHS of their products and show why the target audience should be buying their product compared to something from the competition. It is all about hype, and trying to make consumers forget the core idea of most of these devices, to have a GOOD phone with one or more additional features that add value to them.


RE: Here goes
By Tony Swash on 5/12/10, Rating: 0
RE: Here goes
By Alexstarfire on 5/12/2010 7:00:13 PM , Rating: 2
This entire post is nonsense. And in fact most of it basically agrees with what the OP said.


RE: Here goes
By zmatt on 5/12/2010 12:15:26 PM , Rating: 2
While the capabilities and feature set make it a gray area the targeted market and intended use is what sets them apart. When people purchase an iPhone or android phone they are shopping for a phone first and a media player second. When people buy an iPad, iPod, or another mp3 player, net book, whatever they are not looking at phones at all.

The iPod and iPad do not compete with smart phones as people buy them for different reasons, therefore it is unfair to include them.


RE: Here goes
By stevejluke on 5/11/10, Rating: -1
RE: Here goes
By druble on 5/11/10, Rating: -1
RE: Here goes
By daveinternets on 5/11/2010 6:55:31 PM , Rating: 5
This is about SMARTPHONE market share. This is not an OS to OS comparison. The iPod Touch is not a SMARTPHONE. Bringing it up is irrelevant to this 'survey'.


RE: Here goes
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 5/11/2010 7:07:10 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. The NPD report specifically mentions Android-based smartphones, so Apple is barking up the wrong tree.


RE: Here goes
By druble on 5/11/10, Rating: -1
RE: Here goes
By Cheesew1z69 on 5/11/2010 8:06:04 PM , Rating: 3
The article is still about SMARTPHONES, touch is NOT a smartphone regardless of the OS.


RE: Here goes
By stevejluke on 5/11/2010 11:41:07 PM , Rating: 2
No, I think you need to read the report. here is the quote:

from http://www.npd.com/press/releases/press_100510.htm...
"The Android operating system (OS) continued to shake up the U.S. mobile phone market in the first quarter (Q1) of 2010, moving past Apple to take the number-two position among smartphone operating systems, according to The NPD Group, a leading market research company. NPD’s wireless market research reveals that based on unit sales to consumers last quarter the Android operating system moved into second position at 28 percent behind RIM’s OS (36 percent) and ahead of Apple’s OS (21 percent)."

It is all about the OS, and devices running the OS. not smartphones. The term 'smartphone' is only used in reference to the type of OS. Since both the iPod Touch and iPad use the iPhone OS, they should be counted in as devices running the iPhone operating system (and if they are not then I would believe it is a flaw in the report). I assume, based on the language used, that the report does use these devices in the count (or more probably asked questions which included them).


RE: Here goes
By Dark Legion on 5/12/2010 2:47:49 AM , Rating: 3
From your own quote: "The Android operating system (OS) continued to shake up the U.S. mobile phone market..."
Yes, in this case the term 'smartphone' is being used in reference to the type of OS, but it is still clear from the beginning that this research is about phone/smartphone market share, and thus includes only phones running smartphone OS'.


RE: Here goes
By Cheesew1z69 on 5/12/2010 8:44:26 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The term 'smartphone' is only used in reference to the type of OS
Again, key WORD, PHONE. Not sure how hard this is to understand? I don't, and I am sure many others, when we think of SMARTPHONE, we are thinking of the PHONE, NOT THE OS

/me rolls eyes


RE: Here goes
By Tony Swash on 5/12/10, Rating: -1
RE: Here goes
By Gio6518 on 5/12/2010 7:57:27 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
does not account for the more than 85 million iPhone and iPod touch customers worldwide


not only does it take into account ipod touch, they also count every single iphone and ipod touch since its creation, like no one has updated their original iphone to a 3g or 3gs....

its all about manipulation, they want to make the illusion that their still in demand...


LOL
By LedHed on 5/11/2010 5:32:22 PM , Rating: 3
Apple comments on this, but not the huge Safari bug? Then they lie about the number of units sold? They must be hard up to impress the world economy with their phone market share. Microsoft holding that +90% share in the OS market must keep Jobs up at night. Glad to see the Android making the iPhone sweat.

(Safari Bug: http://www.dailytech.com/Homeland+Security+Warns+A...




RE: LOL
By druble on 5/11/2010 6:49:54 PM , Rating: 2
"The bug exploits Apple's poor implementation of code that handle's the browser's parent windows. According to Secunia, "This can be exploited to execute arbitrary code when a user visits a specially-crafted Web page and closes opened pop-up windows." - Jason Mick - DailyTech


RE: LOL
By sebmel on 5/11/2010 8:43:43 PM , Rating: 1
"Microsoft holding that +90% share in the OS market must keep Jobs up at night."

That may be the case but judging by company growth over the last ten years if he has been sleepless it hasn't been in vain. Very roughly:

Ten years ago:
Apple $4 billion
Microsoft $500 billion

Today:
Apple $250 billion
Microsoft $270 billion

It is entirely reasonable to argue the merits of various products and express personal preferences but, with all due respect, it is about 13 years out of date to suggest that the company is in trouble.


RE: LOL
By Alexstarfire on 5/12/2010 1:20:03 AM , Rating: 3
Apple hasn't been sued left and right for billions of dollars either. Quite the opposite. Hasn't Apple, in fact, been suing others?


RE: LOL
By Xavi3n on 5/12/2010 3:50:39 AM , Rating: 4
Market Cap doesn't represent the size of a company. One wrong move and it'll more than half overnight, Apple has its own little stock-market bubble going on and it'll burst sooner or later.


RE: LOL
By theapparition on 5/12/2010 11:59:02 AM , Rating: 2
Yes it amazes me how many time people quote Market Cap and conveniently leave out P/E.

Like Market Cap is some sort of fact. Investors are very finicky, and some bad trends can cause everything to disappear overnight.

For what it's worth, MSFT has a P/E of 15, while AAPL is 22.


RE: LOL
By iFX on 5/12/2010 12:51:58 PM , Rating: 2
Without the iPod and iPhone Apple is out of business, plain and simple. Their PCs have ALWAYS sold poorly and ALWAYS lost money, since their inception.


Man up, Jobs
By themaster08 on 5/11/2010 5:34:56 PM , Rating: 2
Consumers have spoken. The Android revolution is upon us. Stop crying.




RE: Man up, Jobs
By corduroygt on 5/11/2010 6:23:55 PM , Rating: 3
I'd say they've chosen Verizon and Tmobile over AT&T.


RE: Man up, Jobs
By T2k on 5/11/2010 6:38:00 PM , Rating: 2
No wonder: TMO is the fastest 3.5G while VZW is the best overall coverage.

AT&T? The mos tdropped calls and shittiest 3G speeds among GSM networks on the world.


RE: Man up, Jobs
By corduroygt on 5/11/2010 7:01:49 PM , Rating: 2
I have AT&T and actually 3G speeds are pretty good.
However, dropped calls suck, I would switch if I could.


RE: Man up, Jobs
By T2k on 5/12/2010 1:37:21 PM , Rating: 2
I've yet to see T-Mobile's 8-10 megabit even just neared by AT&T...


RE: Man up, Jobs
By Alexstarfire on 5/12/2010 1:15:29 AM , Rating: 1
And yet it's the exact opposite where I live. I'm really only on AT&T cause I can be under my parents plan. Far cheaper that way.


RE: Man up, Jobs
By sebmel on 5/11/2010 8:36:25 PM , Rating: 2
Have you read AnandTech's review of the HTC Incredible? It didn't suggest to me that the fight's all over. The iPhone still holds it's own in many respects with new Android phones which have superior hardware and the market knows that the fourth version of the iPhone is out in the wild...

you just have to dress in non-descript fashion while drinking German beer in fashionable Californian bars to come across one.


Not surprising
By Abrahmm on 5/11/2010 6:29:08 PM , Rating: 2
This doesn't surprise me. Apple is first and foremost a PR/Marketing company, and the Apple logo is their best product. Steve feels the need to defend their brand image at all costs because it is the only thing keeping their sales up. The whole response just has that "sour grapes" feeling to it, and it's obvious Steve is starting to sweat, judging by the way he tried to deflect the facts onto a different topic.




RE: Not surprising
By druble on 5/11/2010 6:43:28 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, things have had that feeling to them for a little while now. Apple would be better off to just back off and lay low. Don't even offer the media a chance to put out harmful truths or rhetorical stories. The are getting to much into the spotlight but in the wrong ways. Even if they cured AIDs tomorrow, there would still be that shadow behind them. Can't say I am upset that Apple is losing face, because maybe we can get back to tech news that dosn't involve 30-50% of everything being Apple device killer or not. Apples marketshare worldwide accross the board show that the majority of us in the world could care less about hearing about Apple. As soon as all the tech news sites realizes this, we can finally get some better stories.


RE: Not surprising
By sebmel on 5/11/2010 9:12:17 PM , Rating: 2
"Apples marketshare worldwide accross the board show that the majority of us in the world could care less about hearing about Apple."

Well, it's worth remembering that computer sales stats don't usually separate out business sales from the public's personal choices. When you do that Apple's figures look better. Then when you consider the buyers that actually have a choice, because they can afford something other than the cheapest product, Apple's figures look better still.

Just think about cars. Not in terms of quality... just choice. You can't say that the sales of Bugatti Veyrons demonstrates its desirability to car purchasers.

Now I am NOT comparing Apple computers to luxury cars, I'm just taking about choice. When you look at the niches that Apple products occupy they actually do amazingly high percentages in those niches.

How do we know? Well look at how Dell are suffering. Apple seems to have taken the profitable bit of their business and left them struggling to make money out of razor sharp business sales margins and sales to the PC techy types who know how to get great bang for buck. Dell still sell truck loads of computers... many more than Apple... but they aren't making money.


RE: Not surprising
By sebmel on 5/11/10, Rating: -1
Porn
By druble on 5/11/2010 6:33:33 PM , Rating: 2
Anyone think this has to do with Steve's comment telling everyone to buy an Android if they want porn? Lol. I know thats not the case, but it WOULD be pretty funny...




RE: Porn
By BB33 on 5/11/2010 7:36:57 PM , Rating: 2
Jobs thinks they only need... iphone, itouch, ipad, and the new device (coming soon) i?..


Sad
By daveinternets on 5/11/2010 5:12:05 PM , Rating: 3
That Apple feels it needs to respond to this 'survey'. Everyone knows the flaws.

They must be really fearing Android if they responded like this.




Odds
By Brandon34 on 5/11/2010 6:19:20 PM , Rating: 3
Ok, Apple beginning to lose market share (and it will get worse), so what odds can I get on lawsuits :-

Within 90 days?
Between 90 and 180 days?
Before christmas 2010?




OMG
By druble on 5/11/2010 6:31:13 PM , Rating: 3
It sure is taking the Apple users quite a bit of time to start replying with repsonses to discredit this article. Some please que the fanboy with a denial issue.




Dedicated Denial
By jnemesh on 5/11/2010 7:49:32 PM , Rating: 2
Jobs is drinking his own Kool-Aid again! With all of Apple's bad press lately, its no wonder people are choosing something else...and as much as I love my Palm Pre, right now Android is really the only competitor out there.

I predict that Mr. Jobs will continue to deny any impact from competition, even when mobile devices running FLASH (!) continue to erode their marketshare.

They will dismiss Google tablets and WebOS tablets. iPad may have started a revolution, but being first out of the gate never guaranteed finishing the race first.

The good news is that Apple has already done what they needed to. They re-energized the marketplace and kickstarted the smartphone and tablet computing revolutions. Now it is up to other companies to actually give us devices that "just work".




RE: Dedicated Denial
By sebmel on 5/11/10, Rating: -1
RE: Dedicated Denial
By magneticfield on 5/12/2010 6:56:23 AM , Rating: 2
It's like you said: you just don't get it.


That's 55 million....
By CrazyBernie on 5/11/2010 8:19:19 PM , Rating: 3
... potential Android users... ;)




Incredible
By Xarthos on 5/12/2010 8:26:55 AM , Rating: 3
Now that Verizon has a real phone. The Incredible... We will see Android take over the US market. Verizon customers waited too long for an iphone and now Apple is going to lose out on a ton of business because of it.

My Incredible does everything Iphone 3GS does only better and faster and the way I want it to do it.




LOL
By Anoxanmore on 5/11/2010 5:10:42 PM , Rating: 2
I guess Steve doesn't like taking from Android as much as Adobe. :)




worldwide
By eddieroolz on 5/11/2010 5:57:17 PM , Rating: 2
Interesting how the spokesperson mentions "worldwide".

Worldwide, iPhone does not even stack up against Symbian OS in terms of market share.

Don't try to spin it any other way, Apple.




mmm well all i can say...
By batman4u on 5/11/2010 8:50:12 PM , Rating: 2
as from my experience i have just sold my iphone 3Gs and got myself a Motorola DEXT and i am Completly blown away with Android os...Android Blows iphone OS away by far and completly like the thing that you dont need to jailbreak to get 3rd party apps.. oh and skyoe over 3G

my car a has an Ipod conection so i got a ipod classic for 50 bucks and thats about it for Iphone Os for me... good luck Apple




Die iphone DIe
By drfriday on 5/11/2010 10:39:10 PM , Rating: 2
It's 1995 all over again for Apple thanks to Steve Jobs arrogance! FLASH....DRROOOIDD!




By Spind on 5/12/2010 2:47:32 AM , Rating: 2
As per Hindu Mythology, there is one daemon who has some 10 heads, each representing some form of evil... ...
Is this just co-incidence or pun-intended?




omg
By muhahaaha on 5/12/2010 3:59:55 AM , Rating: 2
Jobs should have retired a long time ago. Why is he pushing the "magical, wonderful" iPad?

He has millions, and I think that he is just a drunk wanting some attention. As a CSW, I see this all the time. Dumb ass could have retired after getting a new liver, but no, lets make our company into some "magical" entity.

Steve, retire and STFU, and stop ruining your second liver.




Hopefully
By WinstonSmith on 5/12/2010 11:47:39 AM , Rating: 2
Hopefully, some true competition will eventually force Apple to lower their markup and put some industry standard ports on their otherwise mostly excellent devices.




Math Fail
By clovell on 5/17/2010 10:05:36 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, maybe a mistake on the iPod Touch thing, but they're still outselling Android in the smartphone market and seeing quarter over quarter growth.

There realy isn't any news here, except that you tools are continuing to cash in on anti-Apple sentiment.




Doh!
By msheredy on 5/12/2010 11:17:47 AM , Rating: 1
I am an avid supporter of Apple products and even this disappoints me a bit.

quote:
And did anyone else find it funny iPod touch was mentioned in the context?


This survey was for operating system market share. Both iPhone and iPod Touch run the iPhone OS so it is very much relevant to include the iPod Touch as well.




OK here is goes
By hiscross on 5/11/10, Rating: -1
RE: OK here is goes
By Calindar on 5/11/2010 8:05:05 PM , Rating: 2
Some cheese with that whine?


RE: OK here is goes
By Cheesew1z69 on 5/11/2010 8:10:04 PM , Rating: 2
So, android based smartphones aren't sold worldwide? Um.....


RE: OK here is goes
By batman4u on 5/11/2010 8:57:11 PM , Rating: 1
i live in Mexico you A**H*** and i have a Android based phone os, i used to have Iphone, Ipod touch MAcbook pro, but the sooner you realize that jobs is sinking the company the better for you... remember apple started as a well balanced-no bull**** computer seller, and now they are just for show if you dont throw 3000 bucks

and let me break it to you... apple computers are PC's


RE: OK here is goes
By hiscross on 5/11/10, Rating: -1
RE: OK here is goes
By Shatbot on 5/12/2010 1:22:30 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Mexico? Did you leave Arizona recently? Who used to own your stuff before you found it? BTW Mexico has no equivalent to Steve, which isn't surprising since people don't try to sneak into Mexico or that matter Iran or North Korea.

Man you're a jerk.

For a Jesus freak you sure do come off awful racist like'.

Hypocrisy truly does go hand in hand with Apple/religion.


RE: OK here is goes
By sebmel on 5/11/10, Rating: -1
RE: OK here is goes
By batman4u on 5/11/2010 11:42:08 PM , Rating: 1
you should know that all his team you say he brought has already left the company....

its not me that has jumped to conlucions... its you... when you start to talk about something be sure to know from different sources not just some dumb magazine. be sure what you are talking about.

1) Bla Bla ateve is all about how and when APPLE invented everything... for all he says i might look underneath my fridge and an Apple logo might be their

2) now that the company shined... he is starting to sue and take a fight with all the companies that helped them... google is an excellent example

3) As i told you before... Apple started very good company, computers that where monster capable, Notebooks that where very fair in hardware... not cheap but at least you knew good hardware was in their... now all you see is how the first Macbook was a so poor computer overheating, bad drives etc etc and now the new core i3 models are overheating in a higher level... check for yourself

and an OS targeted to use all these multimedia apps that their computers where so capable. And now the company takes advantage of people like YOU (or that stupid GRINGO which thinks US is the centre of the universe... haha poor Bas*ard... good luck living in your tiny bubble.)
and Apple is making a Shiny Ball that is all overpriced and an OS that should be Evolving but instead thought Microsoft never would get their SH*t toughether and make a decent OS and for 3 years i have seen how these company so behind in updates on security that 3 years has it stood as the weakest OS

if you knew anything or had some sense of technology you should see how steve is driving the company so badly that their is no escence of how this company was


RE: OK here is goes
By corduroygt on 5/12/2010 6:22:09 AM , Rating: 2
Come back here when your country has the biggest economy and military in the world, and then feel free to act like it's the center of the world. Until then, the "Gringos" will always be your boss.


RE: OK here is goes
By T2k on 5/12/2010 2:24:55 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
by corduroygt on May 12, 2010 at 6:22 AM Come back here when your country has the biggest economy and military in the world, and then feel free to act like it's the center of the world. Until then, the "Gringos" will always be your boss.


Ehhh? Since when Chinese are called "Gringos" in Mexico?

Biggest economy, my @ss - we are in the biggest fuckin' mess and debt, only retards believe we have have economic power... we have nothing, Chinese and others can wreck the dollar and the economy along in a matter of weeks if they start dumping our bonds and currency.

Oh and pleahhhse, stop with the 'mighty military' bul;lshit - barefooted Arabs wiped their asses with our extremely wasteful, oversized, ballon-headed and completely ripoff-priced military machine. US military is a fuckin joke when it comes to effectiveness - Europe and its ailing economy has more saying in more places without a single soldier than we do with hundreds of thousands of grunts and the entire corrupt military-industrial complex that holds the government hostage for decades now.


RE: OK here is goes
By Cheesew1z69 on 5/12/2010 10:46:19 AM , Rating: 2
Huh, please make sense....


RE: OK here is goes
By Bateluer on 5/11/10, Rating: 0
RE: OK here is goes
By web2dot0 on 5/11/10, Rating: -1
RE: OK here is goes
By magneticfield on 5/12/2010 7:09:13 AM , Rating: 2
Android overtaking iPhone would not mean anything bad for Apple, it would mean something good for those who bought or plan to buy Android.
It means stability, room for growth, confidence in the future.

If I'm glad to see Andoid grow it's only because of this. It's like watching a kid grow.
I don't want Apple to dissapear, and I'm sure many of us feel the same.

What would the world be without Apple the magician and it's huge crowd of fans?


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