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Apple, RIM, and several other mobile phone manufacturers agree to use a standard charger... in Europe only

The European Commission proudly announced a handful of top mobile phone manufacturers have agreed to a European Union (EU) mandate for universal cell phone chargers.

Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Apple, and other handset manufacturers are expected to begin offering the universal charging units beginning in 2010 to European consumers.  Research in Motion (RIM) and other manufacturers are expected to also utilize universal chargers, with manufacturer announcements expected in the future.

The universal charger will replace around 30 individual chargers, and will only work on European models of cell phones, the EU said in a statement.

"It's a small thing, but a big issue for the consumer," Omio.com analyst Ernest Doku said during an interview with the Times Online.  "It was simply a foolish situation.  But phone makers wanted to have their own technology for each phone to stay a step ahead.  It's good for the manufacturers to swallow their pride, as this will be for the end user's benefit."

In addition to helping consumers, it could also be beneficial for the environment; with a less number of old chargers being thrown away each time a consumer upgrades their phone.  Spread across Europe, there are around 400 million phones, and consumers purchase about 185 million new ones per year.  Ten manufacturers control 90 percent of the phone, yet there are still 30 common chargers.

Previous reports indicated most GSM phones would use a standardized micro-USB charger by 2012, though legislators felt that wasn't soon enough.

The EU hopes the rest of the world will follow suit and create legislation to force manufacturers to adopt a universal charger, although it's unsure if that will be possible without heavy government oversight.  Without government mandate, phone manufacturers likely won't adopt a universal charger. 



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Before someone compains...
By Hawkido on 6/29/2009 6:06:26 PM , Rating: 3
They didn't intensionally omit the US phones from the agreement. It is just the EU electronics are geared for 50 Hz AC. Also the EU cannot mandate anything to the US. I don't think the EU should be able to mandate anything to external companies. However, this has been one of my fondest wishes. Why not make everything Mini USB or Micro USB, or some no-royalty cable. (I don't know if USB has a royalty attached to it or not...)




RE: Before someone compains...
By rcc on 6/29/2009 6:25:44 PM , Rating: 2
In general, going from 50 Hz to 60 Hz is a breeze. The other way can be problematical, there are heat issues.

I'm curious to see how this goes. While I'm greatly in favor of standards, in this case we have adapters (and phones, but that's not the issue here) that are built as cheaply as possible. I wonder what the failure rate will be after the first phone or two.

Now, if they can just get the rest of the portable electronics manufacturers to sign up. I'd be a happy camper if I were able to travel with only one or two chargers/adapters. I'm not holding my breath though.


RE: Before someone compains...
By tastyratz on 6/29/2009 7:00:30 PM , Rating: 3
Have you seen the charger somewhere else? The article makes no mention on details (#pin,type,etc) so how do we know its just cheap because its universal?
I agree that this has been long since coming, and ridiculous that its not been made into effect years ago.

The benefit is they will have to tool factories for a specific type of charger, and whether or not its mandated for the usa and other countries we have a greater chance of seeing the same charger or a reduced number of charger types.


RE: Before someone compains...
By rcc on 6/29/2009 7:50:44 PM , Rating: 2
I agree, it has the potential to be a wonderful thing.

However, if you aren't aware that all of the manufacturers spent significant amounts of money to get pennies out of the cost of manufacture, you should be. And that's what I'm referring to. Hopefully they will look at this as being a longer life item than just the phone and will manufacture it to last.


RE: Before someone compains...
By tastyratz on 6/30/2009 9:21:05 AM , Rating: 3
View it logically, they are significantly vested in ways to get pennies out of manufacturing for EVERYTHING they produce, this is no different but also no specialty.
While they will want a cheap connector to save money on the low end phones, they also don't want a flimsy breakable connector on their expensive smartphones. That second part should keep connectors from being unreasonably cheap and flimsy, but that's just my speculation... we wont know till we see them.

Similar note: IMHO I think all outlet transformers should have a check circuit and a relay that wont activate the transformer unless it detects something plugged in on the other side. Think of all the power wasted by those always on transformers and call it a "green" movement.


By cornelius785 on 7/1/2009 1:27:56 PM , Rating: 2
Are we now concerned about saving fractions (based on seeing much my: laptop charger, cell phone charger, and camera charger consume with nothing attached using a kill-a-watt meter, so ball park only) of a watt? There are much better ways to save power that don't involve unplugging power adapters or redesigning them. The easiest as a consumer, that I can think of, is to go from incadescent to cfl. Based on my calculations (~.15/kwh, 1 watt for a charger doing nothing plugged in for a whole year), the charger costs ~$1.30/year and the the move from a 60w to a 15w cfl saves ~$2.96/year for just being used only an hour a day. The actual 'wasted' power by the device would be less for many people since people don't just have charges plugged in doing nothing, the charger is charging some device, and chargers are typically plugged in only when they going to be used.


RE: Before someone compains...
By Ryanman on 6/29/2009 11:36:31 PM , Rating: 5
It will be cheap because one there's only one model, someone will get a ton of money mass producing it.

Not to say that Phone companies haven't been pushing it with this connector BS... it's a huge hassle and expense.

But could you imagine how Ayn Rand would react to a statement like this?
quote:
It's good for the manufacturers to swallow their pride, as this will be for the end user's benefit."


I'm torn here. A universal charger would be nice... but Thanks to government from getting involved again.


RE: Before someone compains...
By blowfish on 6/29/2009 6:56:38 PM , Rating: 4
"Compains", eh?

Check out your laptop ac adapter. You'll be hard pressed to find one that doesn't work on both 110v 60Hz and 220v 50Hz.

It's easy for manufacturers to make compatible hardware - they just want to use a different connector for every fecking phone.

This story is not about some EU plot to destroy the US, it's about plain common sense, and a standard charger is long overdue.

I mess around with toy helis, some of them electric. Funny how I can have a universal charger, that will work with 110v 60hz or 220v 50Hz, or even 12v D.C. and will charge all my different sorts of LiPo, LiIon, NiCad, NiMh and even Pb cells. Admittedly it's a pricier unit than the average phone charger, but it proves that there's no over-riding technical obstacle. Since most phones use similar cells with similar voltages, in practice it's just a matter of the connector and the polarity.


RE: Before someone compains...
By jmurbank on 6/29/2009 9:01:40 PM , Rating: 2
My notebook AC power supply has a wide voltage range between 100 volts to 240 volts and the hertz is 50 and 60. I can use a plug adapter to handle any plugs with out having to bring a step down converter. Also my desktop computers have the same features. These power supplies are a full range switch-mode power supply. It can also be called a universal power supply. What the article is explaining is cell phone manufactures have to comply to a standard power supply connector that is using a standard voltage. There might be different wattage power supplies since not all phones consumes the same amount of current.

The article stated something that is incorrect from what I am seeing. Cellphone manufactures uses proprietary connectors just to make money off the consumer. The consumer have to buy proprietary adapters that are of low quality for additional features that these proprietary connectors includes.


RE: Before someone compains...
By heffeque on 6/29/2009 9:07:55 PM , Rating: 3
Reading it right now.
MacBook Pro small sized brick: 100-240V 50-60 Hz.

It's in a very small package and it doesn't get too hot for touch. It mustn't be THAT complicated and expensive to make these things not only for the UE (and countries all around the world that also use 230-240V with 50 Hz electricity) but also work on 100V+ and 60 Hz.

I don't know what people are whining about.


RE: Before someone compains...
By FITCamaro on 6/29/09, Rating: -1
RE: Before someone compains...
By DigitalFreak on 6/29/2009 8:50:03 PM , Rating: 5
Been sucking on that GTO tailpipe again? Only you could take an article about a standard phone charger (a good thing) and turn it into something political.


RE: Before someone compains...
By heffeque on 6/29/2009 8:56:18 PM , Rating: 4
It's interesting to see people complain about other countries or groups of countries trying to change things in the US when it's the US that's usually trying to change things all over the f*cking world. It must be hard to swallow our own medicine for some.


By foolsgambit11 on 6/30/2009 4:11:47 AM , Rating: 2
Examples? Specifically, examples of the EU trying to mandate US companies/government/people's actions outside the EU, without any international treaty to which the US is a signatory giving them authority to do so? 'Demands' from politicians without the force of law obviously don't count, since they aren't actually mandates at all.


RE: Before someone compains...
By michael67 on 7/1/2009 2:54:07 PM , Rating: 1
[sarcasm mode]
Yeah the EU got more of those horribly ideas.

They also wane ban light bulbs and replace them whit energy saving lamps and when LED are cheaper and better ban those to, just because they have a little mercury in them.

The shear meddling BS from the EU to think they can mandate energy and environment saving letstration, so we all use less energy.
[/sarcasm mode]

ps. i can now buy a saving lamp for under $2 tax free that saves me about $40~50 in his lifetime on elec. bill, yeah it really sucks when the EU pushing these kind of things.


RE: Before someone compains...
By scrapsma54 on 6/30/2009 12:22:02 AM , Rating: 2
I wish Wi-tricity would become the standard so we wouldn't have to worry about such things.


RE: Before someone compains...
By kkwst2 on 6/30/2009 12:54:10 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
It is just the EU electronics are geared for 50 Hz AC.


Huh?

What do these connectors have to do with AC power? The connector carries DC power and is completely independent of the AC adapter. At most, you would need one power brick for EU and one for US, but as mentioned universal adapters are quite common. However, none of this has anything to do with standardizing the connectors, which all use DC power already. That's why you don't need a brick or power inverter for your car charger.


By foolsgambit11 on 6/30/2009 4:07:58 AM , Rating: 2
You're absolutely right that the EU has no control over standards for products not sold in the EU. But I don't think the 50 Hz argument is really apropos. EU cell phones themselves aren't geared for 50 Hz AC. They're geared for DC. The adapters are usually only for a set AC voltage and frequency for cell phones, though, because there would be some additional expense to make them allow universal input. It would very likely be a larger, heavier adapter, too. Since most consumers won't have much of a need for this features, most likely they will release an American version of the adapter for international travelers - same plug at the phone end, different plug for the wall, and takes 110V@60Hz.

If the universal adapter idea catches on in the US, the same reasoning is true. Only a small percentage of cell phone users travel outside their home region and plan on using their phones (it's frequently just too expensive). Those that want to use their phones can buy the charger they need for that region, they may be able to buy specialty 'truly universal' adapters to bring with them, or they can get a separate power converter, since they may have other devices that won't work on a different voltage/frequency. For cell phones, it seems to me that the economics just don't make sense to have a universal-voltage-accepting adapter as the standard for everyone.

I'm curious about whether standardizing output voltage has a large effect on handset design, specifically with regard to the internals of the phones' charging systems - will they have to be beefier? Or will all phones settle on a universal 'native' voltage (that of the adapters' output)? Will this increase or decrease the size of the phones to any noticeable degree? Will it place certain new design constrictions on handsets? Will it increase or decrease costs? In the future, might phones outgrow whatever voltage they've selected? Or will the new adapters 'smart sense' the voltage demand of the phones, and work over a range of voltages?


RE: Before someone compains...
By BZDTemp on 6/30/2009 4:15:38 AM , Rating: 3
I have a Motorola PEBL and a Nokia 6500 which both use Mini USB and I think much of the industry has been preparing for this for a while.

Hopefully this will motivate most other things to go the same way making Mini USB something you can charge just about any low power devices with. Also I think there is a good chance it will happen globally since after that is cheaper for all those making global products.


By crystal clear on 6/30/2009 4:29:30 AM , Rating: 2
Where does the MoU apply?

The MoU covers the territory of the EU. However, as the market for mobile phones is essentially global, the MoU should be seen as a good model for other geographical markets. The Commission is committed to sharing this approach with its trading partners, in order to extend its benefits world-wide.

http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?refe...


RE: Before someone compains...
By Pjotr on 6/30/2009 5:53:57 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
They didn't intensionally omit the US phones from the agreement. It is just the EU electronics are geared for 50 Hz AC.


Mobile phones don't use AC, they use DC low Voltage for charging. What has been standardized is the interface to the phone, not the wall socket. It would be very easy for the manufacturers to implement this world wide, probably cheaper than maintaining multiple interfaces across the world.


Induction
By mjrpes3 on 6/29/2009 11:02:21 PM , Rating: 2
I'm still waiting for an induction charger (same technology that charges your toothbrush). You'd just place your devices on the induction pad and they'd start charging up... no wires.




RE: Induction
By FITCamaro on 6/29/2009 11:30:30 PM , Rating: 2
There was a desk that was developed like this but I don't think it ever really came to market.


RE: Induction
By jordanclock on 6/30/2009 2:03:22 AM , Rating: 3
You mean like the Palm Pre with the Touchstone charger?


RE: Induction
By foolsgambit11 on 6/30/2009 4:14:03 AM , Rating: 2
Ding ding ding!


Should be the same in the USA
By Belard on 6/29/2009 6:46:20 PM , Rating: 4
The Mini USB or Micro USB is fine. And the manufactures should think about the environment and improved service to customers.

A friend left her charger in my home, but since her phone is micro-USB, her PC charged the phone. My sony isn't like that - but I have a USB-->SONY cable that'll charge.

But if everyone used the same standard, perhaps the chargers can become optional! Save on weight and support for a heavy charger. Last year after my latest new phone, I found about 5 various phone chargers for past phones... what a waste.




RE: Should be the same in the USA
By FITCamaro on 6/29/2009 11:28:17 PM , Rating: 2
I agree it'd be nice. For digital cameras as well. My moms digital camera uses something other than standard mini-USB so I wasn't able to get the pictures off it from my cousin's wedding this weekend.


By Chocobollz on 6/30/2009 9:47:21 AM , Rating: 2
I think the only problem with using USB-powered charger is that USB is a "slow charger"; the maximum amperage a USB could provide is 500 mA, which is well below most phone charger could provide (most in somewhere between 550 to 900 mA). Slow charging is bad for batteries, that's why most sophisticated battery charger is rated at least 2A on the output. But with USB3 just around the corner, it might not be a big problem though. Because as I see on Wikipedia, its specifications dictates for about 900 mA max output current. That should be enough for most phone chargers.

There is one key advantage of the USB-powered charger though, is that the power used to charge comes from the computer's PSU, which most is a high-quality unit and so provide better power (in terms of noise, voltage ripples, etc.)


China?
By Oregonian2 on 6/29/2009 9:45:02 PM , Rating: 2
I recall seeing China's government declaring that all cell phones in China would use a common charger (read that within the last couple years or so, don't know the date for compliance), and for the same sorts of reasons that some insane number were being thrown away every year as the huge number of cell phone users there bought new phones.

Wonder if the China standard bears any compatibility with the EU's standard (at least at the phone's interface).




RE: China?
By defter on 6/30/2009 2:46:52 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, China announced in 2006 that they will use USB-based chargers.

http://english.people.com.cn/200612/19/eng20061219...


By Max G on 6/30/2009 3:15:25 AM , Rating: 2
Not sure why it isn't mentioned in the article: http://www.gsmarena.com/eu_welcomes_the_microusb_a...




By dotdotperiod on 6/30/2009 7:00:32 AM , Rating: 2
Dont get me wrong I have thought for a while that chargers should be universal but only from the same manfacture. Example Nokia charger with all Nokia phones. This new universal standard will now allow them to not include a charger leaving you to buy one. Next would be warranty issues. Lets say your generic charger(or even say motorla charger) overheated and fried your Nokia, who's resposible. I do like the universal charger idea but I my head it raises a lot of questions.




Micro-USB
By Eri Hyva on 6/30/2009 7:44:45 AM , Rating: 2
So the new standard (that will rule them all) is Micro-USB.
http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUS...

I think you in the US are going to benefit from this European decision, too.

I can't imagine a situation that Nokia or Apple or RIM or Motorola are going to use a propietary plug in the US, and standardized micro-USB plug for the rest of the planet.




US next, and laptops, too
By joshuaheard on 6/30/2009 10:15:51 AM , Rating: 2
That's great news. They should do the same in the US too.

While they're at it, they should do the same for laptops.




It would be great..
By eddieroolz on 6/29/2009 11:51:22 PM , Rating: 1
If we can use a charger made for Hong Kong in Sweden, and bring it over to Canada and make it all compatible.

A truly worldwide standard would be great. Too bad so many political and special interests organizations are all blocking the way.




If it's not broken, legislate it.
By lightfoot on 6/29/09, Rating: -1
RE: If it's not broken, legislate it.
By sprockkets on 6/29/2009 8:43:42 PM , Rating: 3
It isn't being legislated. This is also for data capable/smartphones only anyhow. Most all of them can charge as it is on a usb port. This isn't difficult whatsoever.


RE: If it's not broken, legislate it.
By FITCamaro on 6/29/2009 11:29:41 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
The European Commission proudly announced a handful of top mobile phone manufacturers have agreed to a European Union (EU) mandate for universal cell phone chargers.


Apparently you and I differ on the meaning of the word mandate.


By foolsgambit11 on 6/30/2009 4:21:25 AM , Rating: 3
This article calls it a mandate. And in practice, it pretty much was. But the source article linked says that it was a voluntary agreement reached under threat of legislation. That's why only most phone manufacturers are on board at the moment.


By crystal clear on 6/30/2009 4:45:23 AM , Rating: 2
Right from the source-

Incompatibility of chargers for mobile phones is a major inconvenience for users and also leads to unnecessary waste. Therefore, the Commission has requested industry to come forward with a voluntary commitment to solve this problem so as to avoid legislation. As a result major producers of mobile phones have agreed to harmonise chargers in the EU. In a Memorandum of Understanding (“MoU”), which was submitted to the Commission today, the industry commits to provide chargers compatibility on the basis of the Micro-USB connector. In addition new EU standards to ensure continued safe charger use will be developed to facilitate the implementation of the MoU. The first generation of new inter-chargeable mobile phones should reach the EU market from 2010 onwards.

The following companies have signed the MoU: Apple, LG, Motorola, NEC, Nokia, Qualcomm, Research in Motion (RIM), Samsung, Sony Ericsson, Texas Instruments.

http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?refe...

Memorandum of Understanding (“MoU”)


Not all phones need the same features/ voltage
By cashkennedy on 6/29/09, Rating: -1
RE: Not all phones need the same features/ voltage
By plewis00 on 6/29/2009 7:38:13 PM , Rating: 2
I'm pretty certain that you are, in fact, wrong and that to get to a standard will have many people, much more intelligent and with much more insight than you working on this. You're acting like the many 'conspiracy theories' people tend to love, where you seem to think one person's thoughts and ideas are going to pick up on something hugely obvious if that were the case - like your suggestion that this is going to be a highly inefficient project and no-one has noticed. It's not like someone has come up with this idea on the back of a napkin and gone 'oh, this would be good wouldn't it'. Also, many phones do charge on 5V or thereabouts - Nokia's chargers output at 5.2V or 5V for the newer-USB models and Apple iPhones use USB too. The standard Li-ion batteries tend to be 3.7V which makes a stabilized 5V supply almost perfect for charging them (after regulation). Using Samsung as an example given they weren't in the article isn't that smart.

Anyway, regardless of how this all pans out, I'm sure they won't 'waist' energy or resources...


By foolsgambit11 on 6/30/2009 4:28:13 AM , Rating: 2
And to support your argument, check out the linked article culled from to make the DT article - it quotes some expert as claiming the new charger will at least reduce non-charging energy usage, i.e., the energy draw when the charger is plugged in but not charging the phone, either because the phone isn't plugged into the adapter or it is fully charged.

Plus, phones can be designed to work most efficiently with the standardized voltage. Using old phones as a judge makes no sense, since manufacturers will have to release new models or at least modified versions of phones to move to the new standard. At least, for the phones that aren't already on the standard - but they work at that voltage already.


Curious that.
By rcc on 6/29/09, Rating: -1
RE: Curious that.
By Breogan on 6/29/2009 6:50:43 PM , Rating: 4
Before posting, you should at least check your facts:

Nokia is from Finland and Sony-Ericsson is based in London and was formed by Sony (Japanese) and Ericsson (Swedish).

Overall, this is great for consumers, which will be able to recharge their phones anywhere, just asking a friend or a co-worker for their charger, not having to worry if the maker and model are the same.


RE: Curious that.
By HaB1971 on 6/29/2009 7:01:30 PM , Rating: 2
You mean other than Nokia (Finland) and Sony Ericsson (Swedish Telecom in conjunction with Sony)?...

oh right those non mentioned European manufacturers that were actually mentioned.


RE: Curious that.
By rcc on 6/29/2009 7:53:03 PM , Rating: 1
I smell an edit.

I don't think I missed that, but anything is possible.


RE: Curious that.
By Bluestealth on 6/29/2009 8:50:23 PM , Rating: 2
You did, I read it around 6 pm when it posted, and noted that Sony-Ericcson was on there for sure, since they love their proprietary connectors, and standards.

I am betting Nokia was on there too, but I don't remember.


RE: Curious that.
By axias41 on 6/30/2009 7:41:20 AM , Rating: 2
Do you think they missed Nokia, the market leader?

I think you need eyeglasses, everything is possible.


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