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MacBook gets an upgrade, sticks to $999 price tag

The final piece to Apple's notebook puzzle is now in place. The company today officially unveiled a slightly revamped entry-level MacBook (the update was actually leaked over the weekend).

The latest polycarbonate white MacBook now features a 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo processor, NVIDIA GeForce 320M integrated graphics solution, and a new 10-hour battery. The previous model came with a 2.26GHz Core 2 Duo processor, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M integrated graphics, an a 7-hour battery.

Other features like 2GB of DDR3 memory, 250GB hard drive, and 8x dual-layer SuperDrive remain unchanged.

This latest innards upgrade brings the MacBook in line with the entry-level 13" MacBook Pro. It still, however, lacks the Pro model's aluminum shell, backlit keyboard, Secure Digital slot, and Firewire 800 port.

Despite the slight feature bump, the latest MacBook is still priced at $999.



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So
By Pessimism on 5/18/2010 8:59:57 AM , Rating: 1
They upgraded from obsolete to... slightly less obsolete. Try a T9900 at the minimum or an i3 and I might be interested.




RE: So
By Flunk on 5/18/2010 9:09:14 AM , Rating: 2
An i3 would have integrated Intel graphics, I can't imagine how much worse Quartz would run on that. It would be a downgrade, not an upgrade.


RE: So
By chris2618 on 5/18/2010 9:40:08 AM , Rating: 2
Not really just put a dedicated graphics card in


RE: So
By Mitch101 on 5/18/2010 11:03:08 AM , Rating: 2
Very good rumor that ATI/AMD graphics chips are going into some Apple notebooks soon. Seems Apple wants higher performance graphics chips with reduced heat and power. ATI has a better chip for notebooks that can deliver this so its very possible this could happen.


RE: So
By Drag0nFire on 5/18/2010 11:55:45 AM , Rating: 2
I thought the 320M was dedicated graphics chip? I'm so confused...


RE: So
By ImSpartacus on 5/20/2010 10:43:48 AM , Rating: 2
Discrete graphics cannot fit into the MBP13 chassis. Not sure about the slightly larger MB13 chassis, but the MB13 would never get an i3 upgrade before the MBP13.

Check this article out, it has comparison pictures. It's handy.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/04/why-the-...


RE: So
By Kurz on 5/18/2010 10:03:10 AM , Rating: 2
Not all i3's have integrated graphics.


RE: So
By omnicronx on 5/18/2010 11:54:48 AM , Rating: 4
There is absolutely nothing forcing Apple to use the integrated IGP. The i3 is still superior to its predecessors, its not merely a c2d with an IGP slapped on. Its also a lower power chip, so I don't really see what Apple's excuse is here.

Apple could still package the same Nvidia integrated graphics with the i3 instead. From the sounds being a smaller die, the price is pretty much the same too in large quantities.. who cares if it contains an extra igp you are not using? As long as the power envelope/price remains the same/lower, I don't see the problem. (the chip size should also be smaller than the 65nm c2d.)

Seems like a struggle between Apple and Intel if you ask me. Apple does not seem to want to give up their cpu sans igp strategy. Not that I can blame them.. At least someone is stepping up against Intel. While moving the GPU to the CPU sounds great in theory, it also makes the CPU and GPU market a two man game =P. Having no X86 license would essentially put everyone but Intel and AMD out of the GPU game. I would rather stay with separate GPU's forever if it means more competition to drive innovation.


RE: So
By Highter on 5/18/2010 12:26:46 PM , Rating: 1
There is size. Both the Macbook and the 13 inches Macbook pro use Core 2 Duo because the i3 would require a discrete GPU, and it wouldn't fit inside the case. Also Nvidia doesn't have a license from Intel to produce IGPs for i3, so Apple can't package the 320M with them.


RE: So
By Johnmcl7 on 5/18/2010 12:34:48 PM , Rating: 2
Yet Sony managed it with a smaller and lighter machine, the Vaio Z11 packs in up to a dual core i7 with discrete graphics and quad SSD's.

John


RE: So
By Highter on 5/18/2010 12:48:11 PM , Rating: 2
Interesting. I found the notebook you are talking about at Play.com. Size limitation was the reason given by Apple for not being be able to do it, but it looks like Sony engineers didn't have any problems.


RE: So
By CallmeTater on 5/18/2010 1:10:38 PM , Rating: 2
That's a pretty impressive laptop going by the specs over on SonyStyle, but it is very spendy. I'd guess that there is no way that Apple could bring equivalent kit to the MB line and still stay in a price range below that of the MB Pro, but I don't see any engineering reason they couldn't do it in the MB Pro line since Sony has already demonstrated the feasibility.


RE: So
By omnicronx on 5/18/2010 1:51:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Also Nvidia doesn't have a license from Intel to produce IGPs for i3
I'm pretty sure that was the 'license agreement does no include the use of chips with integrated memory controllers', which has nothing to do with this.. Furthermore the case has gone nowhere, Intel has just started litigation, and considering the current FTC suit against Intel, i doubt this will go anywhere.

Apple chose not to include it, they have already claimed many reasons as such, licensing between Intel and Nvidia was not one of them, and you are crazy if you don't think Apple would not have shifted the blame if this were the case.

I also don't understand your descrete graphics statement. The 320 chip being used here is pretty much the same size as the die included on descrete 330 being used on the Mac Pro, with the only difference being the use of system memory vs dedicated. i.e I don't buy the size issue, especially when the i3 is smaller in the first place..


RE: So
By Highter on 5/18/2010 3:05:55 PM , Rating: 2
Take a look at this article: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/04/why-the-...

The guys at Ars can explain this better than me. It's for the MBP, but since both are roughly the same size, I believe the points are valid for the MB also.


RE: So
By Johnmcl7 on 5/18/2010 5:52:53 PM , Rating: 2
I think a lot of that article is incorrect simply because as above Sony were able to pack a core i7 (dual core), a discrete graphics card and even quad SSDs into a smaller and lighter chassis. The part about low cost I suspect is the only reason for the C2D processors.

John


RE: So
By chick0n on 5/19/2010 9:17:06 AM , Rating: 2
Does it matter?

Apple zealots will buy anything made by Apple. Even its nothing but a piece of shit.


Higher temperature?
By stimudent on 5/18/2010 8:08:17 AM , Rating: 1
The previous models made it up to 100C.
Lets see if this upgrade can make it up to 120C - 150C.




RE: Higher temperature?
By MrBlastman on 5/18/2010 8:10:06 AM , Rating: 3
They make them white... for white hot!


RE: Higher temperature?
By chagrinnin on 5/18/2010 9:05:08 AM , Rating: 3
I heard if you looked at pr0n the screen would turn yellow. Have they come up with a workaround for that yet?


RE: Higher temperature?
By MrBlastman on 5/18/2010 9:16:44 AM , Rating: 3
But you see, this all alludes to the greater picture of things. Have you ever sat under a tree for a while, watching the puffs of clouds blow by in the deep blue sky on a warm, sunny day, pondering the mysteries of Apple?

If you had, you'd realize something astounding. Why, oh why do the macbooks get so hot? Simple, well, at least if you read Jobs.

They get hot to burn your nuts off. If they're roasted and crisped to a nice golden-red hue, your desire of porn will drop proportionately.

You see, it is all in his master plan. You buy his products, they burn your nuts off, he doesn't have to look like the bad guy banning porn for long. Eventually, nobody will want to buy it period because it just hurts to darned much to even think of manhandling the warrior below.


RE: Higher temperature?
By chagrinnin on 5/18/2010 9:35:54 AM , Rating: 2
Soooo,....there's no workaround?


RE: Higher temperature?
By MrBlastman on 5/18/2010 10:05:49 AM , Rating: 4
There is one, though I regret to mention it here. There is a little known tidbit floating around in the great seas of the internet that goes like this:

Jobs likes himself... a lot. We know this because he wears turtlenecks. Turtlewhats? Yes, turtlenecks.

Wait, why would wearing turtlenecks show that he likes himself or anything else besides being slightly feminine (he DOES cross his legs in a nut-crushing manner when he sits down)? Simple.

The turtlenecks are to keep the blood in his head. You see, he's so full of himself he needs to boost his ego by not letting his i-clorians escape from his brain. They are his, mind you, and nobody elses. Yes, his, and he doesn't want to share. The turtlenecks keep the blood in his head so he can stay full of himself all day long. How dare you think that he would piss i-clorians out into the public water supply after they were processed by his kidneys.

He'll have none of that!

So, what's the solution, you might ask yourself? You have to cater to Jobs' ego.

Yes, ego, his inflated turtle-necked ego. This is why the screen turns yellow. He's pissing on you, yes, pissing all over your computer screen and coating your living-room walls with his golden, amber hue. That camera is there by design. It is there so he can photograph you after being pissed, and the last laugh is his...

Almost. So your screen has turned yellow, your pissed because you've been pissed and Jobs, full of himself in his turtleneck is laughing and you, you want to fix it?

If only the answer were not as complicated as the twisted tale above. It isn't. You simply change your wallpaper on your macbook to a picture of Jobs. Yes, a picture of Jobs. You plaster on your background and make sure you close all windows. No! Not minimize! Close them all! You have to close them, you see, as Jobs wants himself to be the object of your attention. No distractions! Remember, his turtleneck will not fail him and his psychic powers bestowed upon him by his i-clorians being bottled up inside are far-reaching.

Okay, so you have Jobs on your desktop. Great! Now, I hope you have a bottle of lube lying around. Make sure though, that the lube doesn't start with the letter "i" in the name. Perplexed? Don't be. Remember, you are doing this for him, not you, so how dare you be thinking of yourself right now. So, grab the lube, drop trow and winkle your wonker to his glorious image.

I guarantee you, after doing this, your screen will stop being yellow, the image of Jobs will smile somehow (don't wonder why, it just does because Jobs says it will), your macbook will be white again and all will be good once more on your Mac.

You wanted to know... Don't blame me for trying to help.


RE: Higher temperature?
By chagrinnin on 5/18/2010 10:36:30 AM , Rating: 2
Aaaargh,...now I'm one out of three people. :(


RE: Higher temperature?
By rcc on 5/18/2010 3:18:30 PM , Rating: 2
lol, you have some deep seated issues. But at least they come out as mildy amusing. : )


RE: Higher temperature?
By quiksilvr on 5/18/2010 8:52:09 AM , Rating: 2
Okay seriously. Why the hell don't they put some vents on these things? They have all that space on the back. Just put some vents there!


RE: Higher temperature?
By MrBlastman on 5/18/2010 8:56:18 AM , Rating: 2
Because vents aren't stylish! Don't you forget, Apple is about style maaaaaaan, it's gotta look cooooooool dude, while being hot! ( ;) )


RE: Higher temperature?
By Highter on 5/18/2010 9:38:38 AM , Rating: 2
Jobs hates coolers. I mean really hates them. He has been trying (unsuccessfully) to force his engineers to stop using them since the company was created. I remember reading that on one of the older apple models (from before Jobs was fired) he ordered the coolers to be removed only to later find out that the engineers had disobeyed him to prevent the machine from melting down.


RE: Higher temperature?
By sebmel on 5/18/2010 8:12:01 PM , Rating: 2
Do you guys ever bother with irritating details like the facts?

They do have vents in... on the back... just where you suggested.
Can't see them? Well there's a riddle for you... work it out instead of ranting.


RE: Higher temperature?
By quiksilvr on 5/21/2010 11:15:50 AM , Rating: 2
Oh, you mean that opening thats virtually blocked by the hinge? Great location...


Previous Battery Life
By Alexstarfire on 5/18/10, Rating: 0
RE: Previous Battery Life
By amanojaku on 5/18/2010 8:33:15 AM , Rating: 2
RIF:
quote:
The previous model came with a 2.26GHz Core 2 Duo processor, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M integrated graphics, an a 7-hour battery.
You could've looked it up on Wikipedia, too...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macbook#Polycarbonate...


RE: Previous Battery Life
By Alexstarfire on 5/18/2010 7:24:36 PM , Rating: 2
Interesting how I got downrated for asking a simple question. I don't mind Wikipedia, but I don't like using it for specifics like that.

Thank you though.


What's the deal?
By Proxes on 5/18/2010 9:58:52 AM , Rating: 3
Ok, this is news? Almost every tech news site on the web reports every little thing Apple does.

This is just like the news was 4 years ago. Everywhere you went it was Britney Spears drama in the news. Hopefully this trend will fade faster than the Britney click generator fad did.




Apple tax goes up?
By seiggy on 5/18/2010 1:20:31 PM , Rating: 1
How is it that people bitch about Windows 7 Pro retail price being at $199, when apple tax puts OSX at about $499 for this machine? Continues to be mind boggling. Plus I haven't met an ASUS laptop that sets your balls on fire like these things do.




RE: Apple tax goes up?
By afkrotch on 5/19/2010 1:40:23 AM , Rating: 2
Balls on fire!!!

That sounds like a great new ad campaign for Apple. It even sounds catchy, like some kick ass movie.


MBP Also Has More RAM
By Suomynona on 5/18/2010 9:38:44 AM , Rating: 2
The 13" entry level MBP also has 4 GB of RAM vs. 2 GB in the new MB.




still $999
By chris2618 on 5/18/2010 9:48:56 AM , Rating: 2
correct me if i am wrong but don't apple release new "upgraded version" every year if then it shouldn't be that amazing that its the same price as all the newer componet are cheap that they were when the previous one was released.




Why post this article now?
By Neodude007 on 5/18/2010 12:51:55 PM , Rating: 2
This happened at least several weeks ago... what is the deal with DailyTech and CNET posting articles today about it... way to live in the past




battery... what?
By wolfmaster19 on 5/19/2010 4:59:38 AM , Rating: 2
the previous model that had a 9400 chip on it (12w tdp) had 7 hours of battery

and now with the 320 chip and it's 34w tdp the battery lasts +3 hours ?

dude... wait, what ?




By androticus on 5/20/2010 12:13:19 AM , Rating: 2
The new i3/i5 procs with IGP are not that much better than C2D because they put the memory controller on the graphics chip, not the CPU like the Nehelam procs.




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