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New patent from Cupertino giant is disappointing, but hardly surprising

Apple has long locked users out of features on its popular iPhone.  Before the App Store, third-party apps were prohibited.  Apple still locks out non-approved apps.  It also locks phones to the network provider of choice in many nations, except those whose laws prohibit it to do such.  And U.S. customers were locked out of MMS for several months and remain locked out of tethering features.

Apple has so much experience in denying users of hardware and software supported features that it decided to patent the concept.  The Cupertino giant, whose impressive patent portfolio includes an exclusive patent on mobile multi-touch technology, filed a patent seeking to claim the rights to technology locking users out of features.

Reads the patent's abstract, "Systems and methods for provisioning computing devices are provided. Carrier provisioning profiles are distributed to computing devices via an activation service during the provisioning process. The carrier provisioning profiles specify access limitations to certain device resources which may otherwise be available to users of the device."

The patent goes on to state, "Mobile devices often have capabilities that the carriers do not want utilized on their networks. Various applications on these devices may also need to be restricted."

It should be interesting to see if the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office decides to give Apple's overly broad patent a stamp of approval.  Indeed, many cell phone carriers lock their users out of certain features.  While Apple's extreme measures such as iPhone bricking have certainly been newsworthy, it should be interesting to see if their patent-worthy.

It should also be noted that outside the mobile industry locking certain hardware features is an equally established process.  NVIDIA has frequently sold identical hardware on its GeForce (consumer) and Quadro (commercial) lineups, while charging 2-5 times more for Quadros (though clever users have long figured out how to soft certain mod cards to remove the restrictions preventing Quadro driver use on GeForce cards).

Whether Apple gets the patent or not, one thing is clear -- it's likely to continuing blazing ground in making sure that its users don't have access to more features than it and its partners want them too -- even if its devices are capable of them.



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By crystal clear on 10/4/2009 10:26:54 AM , Rating: 5
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in making sure that its users don't have access to more features than it and its partners want them too -- even if its devices are capable of them.


Whats the point in complaining ... either you accept it or dont.

For mainstream buyers- If you dont, then you know what to do - simply dont buy the iphone ... there are equally better options available.

For the competition - great opportunity! provide all what Apple & partners dont & push your sales up.

Once Apple & partners see their future sales figures crash downwards,then they will agree to do so.

Thats how such companies learn to get on the right track.

Price / performance law at work.

For the adventurist- await another new hack to bypass the Apple law.

For lawyers & consumer action groups - file a class action suite & try your luck for a few millions as compensation.

For the rest its Apple bashing time....




RE: Options
By ImSpartacus on 10/4/09, Rating: 0
RE: Options
By SunAngel on 10/4/09, Rating: -1
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By ncage on 10/4/09, Rating: -1
RE: Options
By SunAngel on 10/4/2009 4:39:38 PM , Rating: 4
I'll step in and give my 2 cents.

The blackberry absolutely rules for messaging services and has some very good applications available, whereas the iPhone rules on web browsing (except for flash) and destroys everyone for applications. WinMo is great for general usability, but not outside of mobile office. In my opinion, naive users of microsoft office think because it (WinMo) runs on a microsoft platform that there is some magic between the two. Fortunately, for them, there is some assurance in this fact. It probably can be said that the popularity of the iPhones and the Blackberries of the world is the result of ex-WinMo users that recognize it is nolonger true you have to stick with one developer. The touch interface, web browsing, even messaging of the iPhone exceeds all that WinMos have offered. Obviously, flash is the iPhone weak point. But at somepoint, flash or a close cousin will eventually make its way in the mobile safari. Until then, MP4 and MOV is doing just fine. Also, check out the web page rendering of the iPhone and compare it againt the Blackberries, WinMos, Palm Pres, and anyone else and it become clear why the iphone is successful.


RE: Options
By ncage on 10/4/2009 5:23:13 PM , Rating: 3
You know now that you talk about the lack of flash support i wander if this is the chance for microsoft to gain big market share over adobe with silverlight. I guess the reason they don't want to run flash is because of resource usage. Flash seems to be a hog. Ive heard someone who has a netbook (i don't) say that anything coming from youtube would bog down their computer and the video would studder but they said they could play silverlight content just fine off of netflix. This says to me silverlight is much better on intelligent resource usage and maybe the mobile platform is something that would allow them to greatly increase the marketshare/acceptance of silverlight.


RE: Options
By kkwst2 on 10/4/2009 8:49:13 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
I'll step in and give my 2 cents.


Uh, OK. I don't think I got my money's worth.

My experience has been that WinMo users tend to be the power users. With a little effort, you can do much more with a WinMo phone and do it well, but it takes a LOT of tweaking and finding the right 3rd party apps.

I can do many things better on my Mogul that on an iPhone and there are actually a lot more choices. And I can e-mail/text on my flip out keyboard much much faster than anyone with an iPhone, no matter how fast you think you can peck at that on screen keyboard.

The "out-of-the-box" experience is much better on an iPhone and Pre. The iPhone has some nice apps and the interface is very nice, but for getting real things done and customizing it to be a do-everything device I'll still take my WinMo device. And it has nothing to do with being uninformed or naive, thank you.


RE: Options
By JoshuaBuss on 10/5/2009 9:11:19 AM , Rating: 2
Symbian phones are much the same. I can do a lot of things on my E71x faster than people with iphones.

check out my recent overview of my phone:

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/17630


RE: Options
By Motoman on 10/4/2009 1:00:47 PM , Rating: 5
...there are wads of viable alternatives to the iPhone. They're all over the place.

The fact of the matter is that the marketing power of Apple is such that you *want* the iPhone, irrationally so, even in the face of crappy treatment from Apple and poor service from AT&T.

Either buy an iPhone and live with the consequences...but content in your membership in the Apple community - or acknowledge that there are in fact lots of perfectly fine alternatives available from other companies that are a lot less likely to treat you like crap, and get one of them instead.


RE: Options
By Salisme on 10/4/09, Rating: -1
RE: Options
By Alexstarfire on 10/4/2009 6:54:14 PM , Rating: 3
If you're talking about the phones that Verizon offers..... can't help ya there since I haven't looked at them, but there are plenty of phones that are unlocked and can be used on the Verizon network. Many of them being far better than the iPhone, in my eyes anyway.


RE: Options
By Motoman on 10/5/2009 2:17:12 AM , Rating: 5
LG Envy series would be the first place to start.

Blackberry.

Palm Anything.

HTC anything.

Whatever. The market is full of these things - I can't imagine needing help finding any.


RE: Options
By hadifa on 10/4/2009 8:43:16 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know about Vrizon myself but just to give you a head start, check HTC magic, HTC hero or palm pre.

You can check
http://www.gsmarena.com/
for a quick and comprehensive comparison between phones.

Hope this helps.


RE: Options
By kmmatney on 10/4/2009 9:40:01 PM , Rating: 2
palm pre: only on Sprint

HTC Magic: Not available in the U.S. until last August

HTC Hero: Not available in the U.S. (but very soon)


RE: Options
By omnicronx on 10/5/2009 12:31:09 AM , Rating: 2
htc magic = tmobile mytouch 3g with a bit more ram.


RE: Options
By Luticus on 10/5/2009 10:35:34 AM , Rating: 1
The Samsung Omnia smashes the iPhone right in the face! More features, better apps, not tied down to ATT, serviceable battery, 5MP camera, ability to map network drives, and in true apple fashion the Omnia is WAY cheaper price wise (free for me with 2 year resign). I can remote in to my server and add users to active directory with my PHONE using no special software other than what is provided by my phone and by my windows PC by default! Since I’m going to start at 1 anyway for replying to your shitty comment I’ll go one step further and say that this phone does everything but scratch my balls! Add a fork and some tape and it might even be able to do that too. :-)

As stupid as this patent is I hope apple gets it. That way they can make everyone pay them royalties for locking features, thus none will lock features anymore... one can dream.


RE: Options
By SilicconDoc on 10/4/09, Rating: -1
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By kmmatney on 10/4/09, Rating: -1
RE: Options
By Motoman on 10/5/2009 2:15:49 AM , Rating: 4
I think you're full of $hit. Apple is pure marketing. Ultimately you bought an iPhone because you fell for the marketing and desire to have what everyone else was buying.

Get a Blackberry. Or an LG Envy Touch. A Pre. Or a Treo. An HTC thing. Any of the umptyteen devices on the market with nice big LCD screens. Whatever. Doesn't matter. Anything that has a real keyboard is infinitely superior to the iPhone anyway. As far as I'm concerned, my practically ancient LG Envy (or eNv, or however they want you to type it) is vastly superior to the iPhone because you can actually type on it...with a real keyboard. My wife has had an LG Voyager and now the Envy Touch, and they can even get live TV and all kinds of other BS that I can't ever even fathom wanting on my phone anyway.

The fact of the matter is there are wads of good, solid alternatives to the iPhone. There is no excuse such as "nothing else would do" - BS. Lots of other things would do. And do it with less expense and less BS from Apple and AT&T.


RE: Options
By Jalek on 10/5/2009 3:24:31 AM , Rating: 1
I was given an older one, finally replaced the RAZR I'd been using for five years. Wasn't about marketing really, the mini-USB connector on the V3R was getting flaky and this was free. I looked at others, but nothing really seemed greatly better, though I don't have an "anything but iPhone" opinion as you seem to.

I also have a Blackberry Curve for work. Between the two, I prefer the iPhone with the wifi scanning and better browser, though it's really all about the iPod functions for me, including streaming radio and Pandora. For texting or punching out an email on my phone (which I nearly never do), the Blackberry's obviously better, but it's not even as good a phone as the RAZR.

The iphone touchscreen keypad isn't TOO annoying. The phone functions aren't what I would call good on this model. I've heard they're better on later ones, but I'm ok with this until something notably better shows up or this breaks/explodes.


RE: Options
By BrooksT on 10/5/09, Rating: -1
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By lob3h on 10/5/2009 11:45:58 AM , Rating: 2
Next time you might want to check out Nokia, see how that works out for you.


RE: Options
By themaster08 on 10/5/2009 2:28:12 AM , Rating: 2
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To be honest, I really don't see a viable alternative to the iPhone at this point.

I can seem to find many viable alternatives. Just to name a few....

Nokia N97

Nokia N900

Samsung Omnia HD

Symbian S60 is by far a more productive OS than the iPhone OS. It's a much more mature, expandable and unrestricting experience. Web browsing is excellent, and inclusive of Flash.

Though I have to admit, seeing the iPhone in action whilst browsing, it's much more fluid. However, I believe that the inclusion of Flash makes up for this.

Albeit the Ovi Store and Samsung Application Store are rubbish compared to the App Store, but what you have to take into consideration is that the Ovi and Samsung Stores is not mandatory sources of software unlike the App Store. You are able to freely download whatever compatible software you like that's not on the Stores, without such any absurd restriction.

As for the N900 with it's Maemo OS, if you haven't already seen it, I suggest you look into it. It is undeniably the most powerful mobile phone OS to date.

The iPhone OS is nothing in comparison in terms of functionality and productivity.


RE: Options
By JoshuaBuss on 10/5/2009 9:14:31 AM , Rating: 2
preach on, brotha!


RE: Options
By crystal clear on 10/4/2009 10:51:23 AM , Rating: 2
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For the adventurist


There are plenty of non Apple geniuses, who will fix your iPhone (for a fee ofcourse) to work on any network.


RE: Options
By mindless1 on 10/4/2009 12:22:14 PM , Rating: 5
... still a low down thing to do by a company which makes it easy to bash.


RE: Options
By crystal clear on 10/5/2009 4:24:08 AM , Rating: 2
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For the competition - great opportunity! provide all what Apple & partners dont & push your sales up.


Just an example of competition & what it does,read this-

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Deutsche Telekom's T-Mobile USA plans on Monday to start offering a wireless service for office workers, hoping to increase its presence in the corporate market as it chases larger rivals like AT&T and Verizon.

Corporate BlackBerry users could get rid of their desktop phone as their BlackBerries will revert to the Wi-Fi network from cellular within the office -- or anywhere else they have access to a Wi-Fi network.

This means using up fewer cellular minutes and eliminating the need for wired phones, T-Mobile USA said.


Analysts said that, unlike companies such as AT&T, which has to protect its traditional telephone business, T-Mobile USA as a purely wireless operator would not have to worry about cannibalizing fixed-line revenue.

"From T-Mobile's perspective, this really launches them into the market," said Rob Arnold, enterprise communications analyst with Current Analysis.

"They don't have the disadvantage of trying to protect their revenue streams" from fixed-line networks, he said, adding that any sales through the new service would be entirely new revenue.

T-Mobile USA is the fourth-ranked player in a mature U.S. mobile market and is under-represented in the high-end corporate arena.

Analysts say it has to beef up spending considerably to catch up with markets leaders Verizon and AT&T.

The new corporate offering, similar to a residential service already in place, will charge a flat monthly fee on top of cellular rates. The fee, which depends on the number of users signed up, can include unlimited Wi-Fi calls.

T-Mobile also promised uninterrupted service: if a user moves out of a Wi-Fi zone during a conversation, the call will automatically switch to T-Mobile USA's cellular network.




http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUS...


RE: Options
By JoshuaBuss on 10/5/2009 9:51:56 AM , Rating: 2
Our company is doing exactly this, and it's saving us a ton of money. In fact, it's the main reason why we keep choosing to stick with T-Mobile.


Only Apple gets to do this?
By ImSpartacus on 10/4/2009 10:43:19 AM , Rating: 5
Well look on the bright side, if Apple gets this patent through, they will be the only company allowed to lock out features on phones, right?

/sarcasm




RE: Only Apple gets to do this?
By dragunover on 10/4/2009 12:14:56 PM , Rating: 3
No but Apple might just sue them for it.


RE: Only Apple gets to do this?
By SilthDraeth on 10/4/2009 1:15:20 PM , Rating: 5
Can't Verizon claim "Prior Art" ?


RE: Only Apple gets to do this?
By 67STANG on 10/5/2009 1:07:06 AM , Rating: 2
Perhaps. But at least they have a decent network... I was with Verizon for 5 years before getting an iPhone 6 months ago... AT&T is the worst service provider. Period. I wasn't used to dropped calls and failed calls. I know it's not just an iPhone issue, because my wife's LG Vue does the same thing-- if not worse.

We travel a lot around California and our experiences are similar. We'll be talking and get a "beep beep". Oops, call failed. We'll text each people and they won't get the message for hours. Pathetic.

I actually complained to AT&T about this last week. Their response was, "contractually, we are fulfilling your service requirements outlined in your service agreement." Really? Cause shitty service shouldn't be a part of the agreement. I'm ready to jump ship back to Verizon-- termination fee and all.

By the way, if you have an iPhone and haven't already "upgraded" to the 3.1 update-- don't. It bricks your tethering. Found that out when I needed internet on my laptop while traveling this weekend.... Sigh.


Prior Art?
By wolrah on 10/4/2009 11:01:38 AM , Rating: 5
Wouldn't Verizon's entire phone selection count as prior art? They are the kings of locking down phone features without good reason (as if there ever could be a good reason).




RE: Prior Art?
By hyvonen on 10/4/2009 1:42:07 PM , Rating: 2
The question is, did apple file the patent application before this practice became commonplace?


RE: Prior Art?
By mcnabney on 10/4/2009 10:18:16 PM , Rating: 2
The good reason is that Qualcom said so. They devleoped BREW and the core functionality of application downloads. They insisted on protecting their intellectual property by way of disabling the file transfer profile on all Bluetooth devices.


RE: Prior Art?
By sprockkets on 10/5/2009 12:02:36 AM , Rating: 2
There is a better explanation on arstechnica.com (of course, we are talking about Jason Mick here).

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/10/apple-tr...

Apple uses profiles that can be sent via the network to determine what features you can use on the current iphone. Currently, all other devices from what I understand, are locked via firmware. This means that for every phone sold a custom firmware has to be made for each region and carrier to determine what features to block. This "feature" allows policies from the carrier to be set, regardless of what firmware you run. In fact, this also screwed up full unlocked iphones in other countries from having its features remained unlocked because in firmware 3.1, the phone got updated profiles sent, and if it is on a network without a known supported profile, it automatically disables stuff like tethering, even if the carrier supports it, but is too small to include its policy in the Apple firmware.

Shame too. Verizon has the network, but I imagine they told Apple "NO WIFI AND NO ITUNES BECAUSE WE HAVE STUPID RHAPSODY AND THE WORLDZ BEST THR3GNETWORKS IN THE HIZOUSE." Apple then said "Go bleep yourself."


How the system works
By crystal clear on 10/4/09, Rating: 0
RE: How the system works
By Tiamat on 10/5/2009 12:04:04 AM , Rating: 2
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=ZUbHAAAAEBA...

The above link shows the actual claims in the patent.

This was filed only Dec. 8, 2008. If you look up US 20090144288 or App # 12316050 on USPTO's public PAIR, you will see that there is a 10 page information disclosure from the applicant, so there is quite a bit of prior art already available from the applicant notwithstanding any that the examiner may find.

Oh, and Apple's App # 12397733 also accessible on USPTO's public PAIR shows that it hasn't even been assigned an examiner yet :D


RE: How the system works
By Tiamat on 10/5/2009 12:12:10 AM , Rating: 2
Of course, App #12316050 is a divisional claiming priority to the parent application #09529592. Anyone interested should trace back all the way to this parent case to see what is going on within its claims. #09529792 is a continuation of an international patent filed in 1999.

The patent number of the parent is 7596609 and was issued 09/29/2009. Again, all of this is publicly accessible through USPTO's public PAIR.


RE: How the system works
By crystal clear on 10/5/2009 4:00:14 AM , Rating: 2
Very useful /good information provided by you- just great !

Now this comapny becomes a takeover/buyout target for Google & Microsoft & others sitting on a mountain of cash.

Via this company they can control the patent rights & sue just anybody around.

Patents are retro-active,the patent request was filed in 1998 & by the way Google was founded in 1998 also.

Interesting arguments & counter arguments are heard about patents-like some below

-You cannot patent a concept – you have to patent a method.

-The problem with the patent system is that more often than not, the patent becomes a concept and not a method.

So when a company like this one gets a patent on a method, they feel that they got a patent on a concept.

To summarize - its concept vs method

The point I want to highlight is "it takes 10 years to get a patent issued".

This is shameful.


RE: How the system works
By MadMan007 on 10/5/2009 6:39:16 AM , Rating: 3
The whole goddamn patent system, US and international, is shameful.


RE: How the system works
By Tiamat on 10/5/2009 7:18:37 AM , Rating: 2
No it doesn't necessarily take 10 years to "get a patent"; if you read the whole history of the patent application in the USPTO Public PAIR, you will see that it wasn't the USPTO's fault for the 10 year lifespan. It took 10 years for the applicant to get the claims in such a form so that it was in condition for patent-ability.


apple could be bigger
By Eagle17 on 10/4/2009 11:37:41 AM , Rating: 2
If Apple management including steve jobs weren't such douchebags than apple would have a much bigger marketshare.

All fighting aside apple products do look really nice, are no longer exorbanent in price and use a very good OS.

Of course I have moved back to microsoft/linux/solaris for my needs. at least they are just motivated by greed and not a control complex.




RE: apple could be bigger
By Gul Westfale on 10/4/2009 1:30:30 PM , Rating: 2
yes, the exorbanence of linux has bugged my needs.


RE: apple could be bigger
By sprockkets on 10/5/2009 12:32:24 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
If Apple management including steve jobs weren't such douchebags than apple would have a much bigger marketshare.


Double edge sword. Dell of Apple said in 1997 that "I'd shut it down and give the money back to the shareholders." Steve was the person who basically cleaned up the mess and brought NeXT and other stuff to the party.

Who's laughing now Michael Dell? http://gizmodo.com/308128/10-years-of-apple-vs-del...


It is refreshing.
By rjriley5000 on 10/4/2009 6:19:13 PM , Rating: 5
It is refreshing to see so many people who understand the nature of Apple. I would also argue that Research in Motion (RIM) is cut from the same cloth.

For starters, both are members of the Coalition for Patent Fairness (aka. the Piracy Coalition.

As tech companies age they tend to become much less inventive, that is if they were ever inventive.

This is why they cultivate a cult like following, creating a bunch of drones who hand them wads of money without thought. The reality is that these companies never produce the most important inventions they need to effectively compete in their market. This is a serious deficiency and that is why they cripple their products in ways which slowly such those clients into a shotgun wedding.

The only way to deal the kind of anti-competitive behavior we see from Apple is to not do business with them. This is the only thing which will change their mindset and behavior.

Ronald J. Riley,

I am speaking only on my own behalf.
Affiliations:
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org
President - Alliance for American Innovation
Caretaker of Intellectual Property Creators on behalf of deceased founder Paul Heckel
Washington, DC
Direct (810) 597-0194 / (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 8 pm EST.




By scrapsma54 on 10/4/2009 9:23:10 AM , Rating: 2
But we are going to break them anyway. People bought your product and they don't have to put up with your rules. Sure China and Iran can do what they like to enforce your lame patents.
Does that make you the Guvn'r?




Prior Art?
By gmyx on 10/4/2009 9:40:08 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Cutting Users Off From Cell Phone Features


I thought phone companies had already mastered that fact?




Typical Apple - iPhone vs Android
By jefmes on 10/4/2009 1:44:37 PM , Rating: 2
This is exactly why I feel constantly torn between loving the iPod Touch and iPhone, and being a devout Android follower. At home I find myself using the Touch CONSTANTLY - quick email check, see what's up on Twitter and Facebook, scan over NRP's nice new app, read some Google reader, or play a game or two. The App Store is great, and people are taking advantage of a nice piece of hardware. I leave it on my coffee table most days so I can quickly grab it when I feel inclined.

My G1 on the other hand sits tethered to my computer in my office, because after using it casually for a single workday the battery is low. If I wanted to check Facebook, Twitter, email, etc I can, but it's sluggish. Drag the main screen, wait a second or two, OK there it goes. Pull up the all apps menu, oh lag, there it goes. It works, it just doesn't work WELL. The experience isn't yet living up to the potential.

If just ONE of the Android hardware makers would get their shit together and release a $199 w/ two year contract Android phone with the hardware equivalent of the 3GS, this entire "race" would open up and people could start seeing that Android is where mobile development should be heading, NOT the locked down yet well functioning Apple world. Well functioning that is, so long as you only do the things Apple says is OK to do. And no, jailbreaking doesn't count if the default user experience is artificially limited.

My inner user loves the iPhone, but my inner geek craves more Android.




RIM Enterprise
By hiscross on 10/4/2009 2:16:49 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry whinners, but RIM Enterprise management software provides this today. I know because I've worked at a place that only allowed our users the ability to read and send emails and use the phone. The device had 3G, web browser, bluetooth, tethering and this host of other features turned off. We could use Blackberry desktop. Once of the biggest complaints of the iPhone is complete remote management for the enterprise. Now it appears Apple is on its way to changing that and people are already whinning. In the federal government all email traffic goes through Canada, RIM has their network NIST certified, plus charges the all government agencies a transaction fee. The yearly cost is in the Billions. By turning on Exchange Active Sync, WinMobile and iPhone users can save US taxpayers Billions. I don't hear the liberals whinning about that.




I would like to patent ...
By GTVic on 10/5/2009 2:32:35 AM , Rating: 2
I would like to patent the OFF button in all its physical and virtual implementations. A device which disables something or prevents access to something. Or a verbal instruction to leave as in "f*** off" or "buzz off".

Please make out your checks to the OFF Corporation Ltd. Patents pending ...




Nice
By damianrobertjones on 10/5/2009 3:35:08 AM , Rating: 2
Does anyone remember the Qtek9090? 400mhz cpu, great big screen, slide down keyboard? Recently updated the WinMob2003 to WinMob 6.0 without any fancy rubbish, just standard vanilla Winmob6.0.

It flies. It's faster through menus than the Touch HD, my Samsung i900 and the iPhone. Why? Maybe we're all obsessed with flashy things, maybe because it's not filled with this and that.

Why does everyone count out WinMob? It has a whole load of developers, many active forums, games and plenty of apps. Plus, you can pretty much do whatever you like to the damn things. Just because you've had a bad experience with older phones doesn't count out the new phones. Heck, I started with a HP 6510 which hurt.

Either way, we pretty much only require a phone, maybe email, even some light internet access and they ALL do that. Freedom of choice should not then be stopped with the damn device that you 'own'.




Yoda Nazi
By Visual on 10/5/2009 5:24:16 AM , Rating: 2
Mistakes has dumb article this.




Two words
By Deschutes on 10/5/2009 12:01:24 PM , Rating: 2
Control Freak




No bias here...
By smegz on 10/5/2009 2:09:34 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, the anti-Apple crowd is out in force here. Let me summize:

Carriers demand features be turned off - Apples fault

I think that covers it. All the app store drama truly is Apples fault and they need to streamline that and stop with the hypocritical app approval process. As for the iBricking: Apple releases a firmware update and your jail-broken phone doesn't work...who's fault is that again? That's right, the guys that created the package that unlocked your phone from it's carrier and the idiot that used that package. Please, villianize those that deserve it; like AT&T. This article smacks of shooting the messenger.




Look on the bright side....
By rtrski on 10/5/2009 2:44:40 PM , Rating: 2
Apple patents the ability to prevent functions from working on their hardware on certain carriers. They ask an insane arm-and-leg fee to license this technology.

So other cellphone manufacturers....don't. And everyone but owners of iPhones get to use all the features of their phone on any network. Well, in as much as the network infrastructure supports it, at least.




is the iPhone, a smartphone?
By timjones17 on 10/6/2009 12:05:03 AM , Rating: 2
If I wanted to stay with the "out-of-the-box" walled garden iPhone experience, I would have kept my RAZR V3m, instead of getting the wifi-enabled Omnia i910, when my 2-year came around a couple of weeks ago ago, which BTW came out to just tax for the getting a new smartphone. I mean, is the iPhone, a smartphone? I just downloaded QuickGPS- wow, even faster satellites locks. When is the iPhone gonna get the Skyfire browser? can Safari pull up Qik live videos on the Qik site itself, right now? Does Microsoft make me only go to their site to get WinMo apps? Props to ppcgeeks, modaco, samsung-omnia.org while bluetooth tethered to my netbook and talking on the phone. All that and no jailbreaking at all. Apple chose to sleep with AT&T, now Apple has to live with it. I hope the iphone doesn't come to VZW, that'll just clog up my websurfing.




By reader1 on 10/4/2009 9:25:15 AM , Rating: 1
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/25/google_and...

Windows Marketplace for WinMo has a kill switch too:
"Windows Marketplace for Mobile kill switch details clarified"
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/09/wind...




Article? No, flamebait...
By psonice on 10/5/2009 9:41:17 AM , Rating: 1
This is a totally worthless article. It's just an ignorant rant at apple blaming them for all kinds of stuff, most of which are nothing to do with apple. Just a few of the things that are wrong:

- The patent is nothing to do with "apple locking users out of features". It's CARRIERS locking users out of features - apple are patenting the delivery method for sending these restrictions to the phone.

- MMS, tethering etc. - apple have put these features in. Carriers are stopping people using them. Blame AT&T.

- Bricking. Apple didn't "brick" any phones - they updated parts of the firmware. End-users had hacked other parts of the firmware. The two parts no longer talked to each other, and the phone stopped working. As much as I side with the hackers (I have an unlocked and sometimes jailbroken iphone myself), applying an update to a hacked phone without testing first is *pretty stupid*. Expecting apple to test their updates with unofficial hacks: also stupid.

I'm not suggesting apple are all white and pure here, but this article reads like fanboy propaganda. Stuff that apple really do need some stick for:

- The whole carrier exclusivity/unlocking situation. Here in the UK, it's even looking like iphones won't be unlocked officially after the contract ends. What happened to consumer choice + competition?! Thank f**k for dev team!

- Flash. Ok, so I'd turn it off - tons of flash adverts all over the place + phone CPU + limited battery, not a recipe for success. But there are times when it'd be good to have the option.

- The app store. Generally it's good, and the stories of good apps being randomly rejected are generally overblown (i'm an iphone dev, and hear a lot of stories about this - there's almost always a good reason for the rejection, whether the dev thinks so or not..). Where it falls down though is that it's just too successful - if I add a new app, it appears at the top of the 'recently released' page. Within 12 hours, it's on page 3, and not getting seen/bought. Only way past that is to get into the charts in those first few hours, which is extremely hard.

There's plenty more, how about we hear about the real issues instead of this prejudiced bulls**t?




whatever...
By crleap on 10/4/09, Rating: 0
LOL
By KeithP on 10/4/09, Rating: -1
RE: LOL
By SavagePotato on 10/4/2009 12:21:25 PM , Rating: 4
People who sign their posts when their name is already right at the top of it are to normal people, as flaming douchebags are to normal people as well.


RE: LOL
By mindless1 on 10/4/2009 12:46:47 PM , Rating: 2
I can think of a shorter way to write that. ;)


RE: LOL
By ipay on 10/4/2009 2:44:14 PM , Rating: 1
KeithP is to ordinary people, as a single-celled organism is to a human.


Want a company to accept responsibility for stability?
By sebmel on 10/4/09, Rating: -1
By scrapsma54 on 10/4/2009 9:46:03 AM , Rating: 5
Doesn't mean Microsoft will sue you for distributing drivers that aren't signed off, unless they have been reported for the intention of delivering malicious content.


By Gul Westfale on 10/4/2009 10:00:02 AM , Rating: 5
apple apologists are retards.
like scientologists... the founder was laughing all the way to the bank, but now his followers actually believe in it and defend it as if their earthly existence depended on it. xenu, save us!

so whenever steve jobs and his minions decide to con their own customers out of more money, those same customers actually rejoice at the news and condemn those who cannot understand their stupidity and willingness to be ripped off again and again.

apple and its customers deserve each other.


By crystal clear on 10/4/2009 11:32:54 AM , Rating: 2
This for you to rejoice or condemn-
(I know you are not an Apple addict)

CINCINNATI -- A frustrated customer at the Kenwood Towne Centre Apple store Thursday afternoon ended up going to jail after police say he showed an employee a gun.

According court records, Donald Goodrich, 38, of Westwood, was frustrated his iPhone was not working properly.

He told the employee he was, "So mad, I could pop a 9mm at it."

The employee allegedly told Goodrich there was no need for that, then Goodrich allegedly told the employee, "I'll do it right now. Look!"

Goodrich then allegedly opened the right side of his shirt, displaying a black, 9mm handgun.

Goodrich had a concealed weapon permit.



http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story/Man-Allegedly...


By JediJeb on 10/4/2009 4:59:29 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
This is exactly why concealed weapon permits should be banned. Obviously this guy is not mentally stable enough to carry a gun - he has no business having a permit, but they are just too easy to get...


Drivers license should be banned because crackpots get them and drive drunk and kill people.

Sounds dumb but same logic. If the police departments do their jobs then mentally unstable people don't get concealed carry permits. You can't say do away with them all because of a few bad apples. If you apply that logic to everything then there would be nothing in the world to do period since just about everything someone can do can be used for good or bad. Candy would need to be banned because some creaps use it to lure in children, music would need to be banned because some mentally unstable person listened to as song and it inspired them to kill someone.

Knee jerk reactions are never the answer to a problem.


By Jalek on 10/5/2009 3:29:10 AM , Rating: 1
Driving is NOT a necessity, it's a privilege.
Check your driver's manual.

I wish more people read those or had a clue how to drive.

..and banning permits would just mean more people carrying concealed that nobody knows about. Unless you want to debate the effectiveness of bans on anything else.


By hyvonen on 10/5/2009 7:43:00 PM , Rating: 2
So, is your point that having a permit to carry a concealed weapon is somewhat equally necessary as having a permit to drive? They are both priviledges?

If you want to rate me down, that's fine. But if you do that, I'd expect to hear a good argument to justify the downgrade. So far I've got nothing but poor examples that don't really apply.


By hyvonen on 10/4/2009 5:32:19 PM , Rating: 1
Oh, BTW, if you have any statistics on how many of the permit owners are in fact "bad apples" please post it here.

All I know is that most people I know to have concealed carry permits are somewhat scary and unpredictable... somehow, having that gun changes their personality.


By dragunover on 10/4/2009 10:00:42 AM , Rating: 2
No it's not the same thing. You can turn that off as an administrator. All you get is a notice saying this is not a signed driver and if you want to continue you have to turn it off. Many inexperienced people can get drivers which are virii/trojans.


By mindless1 on 10/7/2009 4:32:46 PM , Rating: 2
Funny that I got rated down for providing factual info, or is there really someone out there that gets their drivers from a totally unrelated 3rd party or thinks MS thinks they do? The drivers from MS come from the same source!


By crystal clear on 10/4/2009 10:35:17 AM , Rating: 4
You simplify the Apple law-

Just becasue you (idiots) buy it, that doesnt mean you own it.....you have no rights only obligations.


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