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Apple requested a ban on all of Samsung's Android smartphone lineup in U.S. federal court

In the U.S. and worldwide only one smartphone manufacturer is offering Apple, Inc. (AAPL) a true challenge in market share.  In fact, that company is actually beating Apple in unit sales, although trailing far behind it in profit.  That company is Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (KSC:005930).

I. Gotta Ban 'em All

If Samsung was gone Apple might have what it's dreamed of ever since it first launched its iPhone -- a monopoly market share in this lucrative market.  Apple's hopes to achieve that goal rest on its plea to the U.S. government to ban Samsung's entire smartphone lineup, the Galaxy phones.

The Galaxy S III is set to launch June 21 on all four of America's top carriers, priced at $199 USD.  But Apple is intent on disrupting this summer blockbuster, aiming for a speedy ban.
 

The Samsung Galaxy S III

Samsung says Apple's claims are anticompetitive junk litigation, vowing, "[We will] demonstrate to the court that the Galaxy S III is innovative and distinctive."

Apple filed the following request to ban Samsung's flagship phone in Northern District of California -- a San Francisco federal court -- late Tuesday.  The filing comes a couple weeks after the collapse of court-ordered settlement talks.

12-06-05 Apple Motion on Galaxy S III

 
Apple has already filed for bans on the other popular Galaxy smartphones, such as the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy Nexus.

II. Apple Will Have to Compete With New Samsung Flagship Phone

The Cupertino gadget maker is reportedly preparing a larger size iPhone for a July launch, although no details have been officially discussed.  Sources close to the companies indicate that Apple is concerned that by beating it to launch, Samsung's Galaxy S III will get a jump on it in sales.

Apple store NYC
Apple is reportedly fearful of allowing the Galaxy S III to beat its sixth generation iPhone to the U.S. market this summer. [Image Source: Double DT]

Apple's quest to destroy Samsung's smartphone market share via lawsuits began in April 2011, when Apple called Samsung's original Galaxy smartphone a "copycat" of the iPhone.  Samsung has since countersued Apple in numerous jurisdictions.

Now as the suit nears completion, the effect on the company's relationship will likely be chilling.  In 2011 the pair did $8B USD in business.  Apple's payments to Samsung are expected to rise to $12B USD in 2012.  Samsung's biggest display customer is Apple and the South Korea-based electronics conglomerate also makes the chip "brains" for every iPad and iPhone sold at its plant in Texas.

While Apple stands a shot at its efforts to gain a court-enforced monopoly in the U.S., overseas it has been unable to prevent Samsung's flagship phone from watching.  Approximately 300 Asian and European carriers launched the smartphone on May 29.

For Apple the U.S. is the final battlefield.  The preliminary injunction hearing will be held today, at which point Apple will see whether it scores a big win or sees its dreams of hegemony slip through its fingers.

III. The Patents in Question

In its request for a preliminary injunction Apple cites two patents which it says Samsung's other Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich smartphone, the Galaxy Nexus also infringes -- U.S. Patent No. 8,086,604 (a patent on "unified search") and U.S. Patent No. 5,946,647 (the "data tapping" patent on "linked structures").  

The data tapping patent allowed Apple to ban Android smartphone maker HTC Corp.'s (TPE:2498) shipments temporarily.  Google Inc. (GOOG) has since implemented a workaround.  To Apple's dismay U.S. Customs and Border Patrol checkpoints cleared HTC handsets with the fix on them late last month, lifting the ban.  But HTC is a small fish in the U.S. market -- Samsung is much more attractive game.

HTC handset
HTC phones were banned for the data tapping patent, but have since been freed.
[Image Source: Asa Mathat/All Things D]

 
The patent's enforcement is slightly controversial as it covers essentially a hyperlinking processing, describing the invention in a personal computer context.  Some question the patent's applicability to the smartphone realm and Apple's decision to "park" on this intellectual property real estate for a decade before looking to leverage it in a new market.

Samsung's attorney says that Apple's decision to tack on a request for a ban on the Galaxy S III violates the U.S. International Trade Commission's process, and that Apple must file a new preliminary injunction because it's amendment came too late.

The company writes, "If Apple wishes to seek an injunction against the Galaxy S III, the Court should require Apple to file a new motion and allow the parties to develop a full factual record on all four factors. Accordingly, the Court should reject Apple’s motion to amend its current notice of motion for a preliminary injunction."

We will keep you updated on what the court decides.

Source: Business Week



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I believe I speak for us all...
By Motoman on 6/7/2012 2:20:24 PM , Rating: 4
...when I say Apple can just go f%ck itself.




RE: I believe I speak for us all...
By quiksilvr on 6/7/2012 2:21:32 PM , Rating: 2
They have no chance in hell. Both will end up wasting millions of dollars on patent trolling and both will make buckets of cash selling their phones in the end.


RE: I believe I speak for us all...
By MozeeToby on 6/7/2012 3:16:58 PM , Rating: 1
So you're saying the lawyers will take their multi-million dollar payday without changing or accomplishing anything? Now where did I put that law school application...


By superstition on 6/8/2012 12:07:31 AM , Rating: 1
As if lawyers are to blame for our broken IP system.


RE: I believe I speak for us all...
By fteoath64 on 6/8/2012 4:01:47 AM , Rating: 2
You can say that to the Oracle lawyers (aka David Boise et all) in the Google lawsuit where Oracle LOST!. The best lawyers cannot win a case when the judge is doing a fine job (in understanding that part of the law).

That was the case in the Patent/Copyright case against Google on Java by Oracle which owned Sun MicroSystems.


By superstition on 6/25/2012 6:45:54 AM , Rating: 2
"The best lawyers cannot win a case when the judge is doing a fine job (in understanding that part of the law)."

So, you're agreeing with me.


By fteoath64 on 6/8/2012 3:53:44 AM , Rating: 2
You can say that to the Oracle lawyers (aka David Boise et all) in the Google lawsuit where Oracle LOST!. The best lawyers cannot win a case when the judge is doing a fine job (in understanding that part of the law).

That was the case in the Patent/Copyright case against Google on Java by Oracle which owned Sun MicroSystems.


By crazyirish on 6/8/2012 7:30:54 PM , Rating: 2
Apple should shut the hell up and work on making the Iphone 5 a game changer like the original Iphone was. By the time they finish deciding who's legal team is bigger, someone else is going to get into the market and make a play for the top spot.


RE: I believe I speak for us all...
By Reclaimer77 on 6/7/2012 2:45:37 PM , Rating: 2
Honestly earlier on some argument could be made for the validity of Apple's approach, if one was biased enough, but now there can be no doubt that this is simply a belligerent monopolistic anti-competitive campaign.

I'm not a huge fan of anti-trust agencies, but hell, if we're going to have them at least apply enforcement evenly. Apple is definitely overdue for some type of antitrust probe or investigation.


RE: I believe I speak for us all...
By MozeeToby on 6/7/2012 3:21:18 PM , Rating: 3
On what grounds? Now, now, hear me out. First, I completely agree that Apple needs to go die in a fire on this one. It's abusive and annoying and it's breaking the industry but it's also exactly in line with today's patent law. So yeah, Apple takes all kinds of blame for their behavior, but the system should never have been run in such a way to allow this in the first place.


RE: I believe I speak for us all...
By Omega215D on 6/7/2012 4:20:15 PM , Rating: 2
Apple is also filing for another ban on HTC's One series despite the ITC clearing them. Apple is making good on it's promise for thermonuclear patent war. The delay in their phones being released seems to have hurt their bottom line even further.

Some think Apple is trying to hold off on the others releasing phones before their precious iPhone 5 piece of crap.


By Omega215D on 6/7/2012 4:21:15 PM , Rating: 2
Okay I could've worded that better but I'm reading a lot of other feeds on the matter.


By AMDftw on 6/7/2012 5:39:11 PM , Rating: 5
Yep, Apple is just scared of the truth.


By Mike Acker on 6/8/2012 8:05:41 AM , Rating: 2
i 2d that


By masamasa on 6/8/2012 9:56:28 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. Waiting for the day they sink due to their own greed.


when will it end?
By RamarC on 6/7/12, Rating: 0
RE: when will it end?
By stevessvt on 6/7/2012 2:22:18 PM , Rating: 2
So apple has these cards in their back pocket and pulls them out because they are losing the cell phone race.

So they are playing the race card then. I see.


RE: when will it end?
By JackBurton on 6/7/12, Rating: -1
RE: when will it end?
By retrospooty on 6/7/2012 4:01:16 PM , Rating: 5
" You mean the smart phone race they created, which subsequently spawned countless knockoff products to enter the market? Is that the "competition" you are talking about"

Created by copying Palm, sure. They didnt invent the smartphone, nor the multitouch interface, nor any of the thing you seem to think they did. They did put out a good phone in 2007 that raised the bar and forced everyone else to catch up. That DOES NOT give them any right to ban other products that have now surpassed them.


RE: when will it end?
By Omega215D on 6/7/2012 4:08:17 PM , Rating: 5
Palm, RIM, MS and various WM/ PocketPC manufacturers. Various NTTDotComo phones... I could go on.


RE: when will it end?
By glenco on 6/8/2012 1:29:47 AM , Rating: 5
typical apple fanboy thinks apple invented the world


RE: when will it end?
By testerguy on 6/8/12, Rating: -1
RE: when will it end?
By retrospooty on 6/8/2012 7:57:06 AM , Rating: 3
"the 'invention' is in the way you combine the technologies which are available to you in a unique and new way - which they certainly did"

I actually dont disagree with most of you post, other than that word. When you take existing tech and make it into a product, it's called product design. At that, Apple did a fantastic job with the iPhone in 2007. Like I said, they took existing tech and made a great product that raised the bar for everyone to play catch up. In the same way OSX made MS raise the bar with Win7. That is a good thing. For that, we all owe Apple a thank you. I am particularly happy about the display res. The res on iPhone 4s and new iPad is way overkill, but what it is doing is forcing a new generation of higher res screen in other products. Laptops are already coming out with 13 inch 1080p screens instead of the awful 1366x768 crap we have been forced to eat for a few years now. Another thank you to Apple.

"They still believe, however, that Android is a 'stolen product' and I think as long as that view prevails they will try all the legal tricks they can."

This is where they lose most of us. Apple copies as much, if not more as the next guy. I don't for a minute think that they believe this is valid. What they are doing is taking advantage of the flawed patent system to their own gain.

Clearly Apple is more than capable of competing fairly. Their product design and supply chain mastery is always top notch. They really need to stop the lawsuits... There wont be any Android bans, they are just stoking fires.


RE: when will it end?
By Initium on 6/8/2012 1:49:26 PM , Rating: 2
To answer the question posed in the title, it will end when people stop supporting companies like Apple who seek to prevent competition through patents rather than innovate and create better products . Stop buying their products. It is as simple as that.

The true function of a free and open market is to provide the best and cheapest products to the consumer. If the market is being subverted by outside influences like the patent system only the actions of consumers will change that behavior.

If people stop buying Apple products because they believe Apple is subverting the true nature of a free market and preventing the cheapest and best products from entering the market apple will change its behavior. It is not rocket science guys. You have the power just like democracy. All you need to do is have the courage of your convictions and use it.


w00tLOL ?
By Gondor on 6/7/2012 4:07:42 PM , Rating: 3
S3 is so far ahead of anything Applhe has produced thus far yet Samsung feels compelled to prove that S3 is "inovative" ? When exactly did Apple prove their phone is inovatie ?

Oh, right, they didn't have to because nobody ever bothered to file complains regrding their lame phones copying existing concepts (= stealing the underlying patented technolgy, as Steve-o proudly boasted) until they started with this shit.

I wish them (Apple) the largest legal fees ever encountered and a massive failure ... phucking assholes. They have almost $100 billion to waste and what better way to spend it than the federal taxes and whatnot ... benefitting every single American as they go down the sewage pipe where they belong.




RE: w00tLOL ?
By testerguy on 6/8/12, Rating: -1
RE: w00tLOL ?
By elleehswon on 6/8/2012 8:21:31 AM , Rating: 2
I think you mean the Samsung Galaxy S2, not the S3. good on you, getting picked up on search bots whilst lying on your posts.


RE: w00tLOL ?
By retrospooty on 6/8/2012 11:22:27 AM , Rating: 1
"The Samsung Galaxy S3 is, on first benchmarks, slightly faster than the iPhone 4S"

This is where I have issue with your disinformation. "slightly faster" ? It smokes it by a pretty huge margin. Both are plenty fast for most any use, but if your going to post, try using something factual. It completely trounces it, at a higher resolution to boot.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-...


RE: w00tLOL ?
By Reclaimer77 on 6/8/2012 11:34:55 AM , Rating: 1
Unfortunately for North Americans, that was the International version they benchmarked with the real-deal Exynos 4. The Krait version that we're getting stuck with probably isn't going to be a whole lot faster than the 4S.


RE: w00tLOL ?
By retrospooty on 6/8/2012 12:03:44 PM , Rating: 2
I am pretty sure the ATT version of the HTC OneX uses the same Krait/S4. It looks pretty good too.


RE: w00tLOL ?
By retrospooty on 6/8/2012 12:06:08 PM , Rating: 2
erp... I meant to add that in some benchmarks the 2 core krait is even faster thant eh 4 core Exynos. In most it's fairly close. It's 2 new Coretex A15 cores vs. 4 older A9 cores, so its not as much as you might think.


RE: w00tLOL ?
By Mint on 6/8/2012 9:30:41 PM , Rating: 2
AFAIK, the Krait core is widely seen as being between A9 and A15. Qualcomm has a licensing deal with ARM that lets it really customize the cores.


RE: w00tLOL ?
By Reclaimer77 on 6/8/2012 3:52:12 PM , Rating: 2
Retro you know I like Samsung and Android, but the Krait is just no Exynos 4. For one thing, the GPU in the Galaxy SIII is slower than the one in my Galaxy S2, while pushing more pixels.

I'm not saying in practical use the Galaxy S3 won't be great. I think it's just a damn shame the entirety of North America isn't getting the best Galaxy S3 out there.


RE: w00tLOL ?
By lagomorpha on 6/10/2012 2:16:40 PM , Rating: 2
To someone that doesn't care about running angry birds in 3D, significantly better CPU performance in exchange for slightly reduced GPU performance sounds like a pretty sweet deal. I'd take the S4 over the Exynos 4.


RE: w00tLOL ?
By retrospooty on 6/11/2012 10:51:14 AM , Rating: 2
I hear ya.

There is a faster GPU coming later this year with the Adreno 320 graphics that should be alot faster... Then again there will probably be a 28nm Exynos equivalent by then too.

Either way, I am sure there will be another variant of the S3 with faster chip later this year, with one or the other brand of chip.

I've got my S3 pre-ordered. Cant wait.


Patents
By Florinator on 6/7/2012 4:58:57 PM , Rating: 4
I just don't understand how Apple got some of their patterns in the first place? Some of them are so ridiculous, it makes me wonder what the Patent Office's job actually is.

"Rectangular tablet with one button in the middle" - are you effin' kidding me?




RE: Patents
By Florinator on 6/7/2012 5:07:13 PM , Rating: 2
*patents


RE: Patents
By vXv on 6/7/2012 5:14:10 PM , Rating: 5
Someone (Samsung?) should just sue the patent office for doing a crap job.


RE: Patents
By Florinator on 6/7/2012 5:40:07 PM , Rating: 2
LOL, I think that's a great idea actually! :-)

I think I read a while ago, that the patent office doesn't bother to actually consider the patent-ability of an invention, they simply look for prior art and let the courts deal with the ridiculous claims themselves.

That doesn't quite justify the patent fees in my eyes...


RE: Patents
By vXv on 6/7/2012 7:08:42 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah they don't even get the prior art part right though ...


RE: Patents
By kleinma on 6/7/2012 6:11:55 PM , Rating: 2
Not even that they are worthless patents, but they are mostly things that existed long before they ever patented it.


RE: Patents
By testerguy on 6/8/12, Rating: -1
RE: Patents
By lagomorpha on 6/10/2012 2:10:31 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
"Rectangular tablet with one button in the middle" - are you effin' kidding me?


That's why there's a difference between a Design Patent and a Utility Patent. If the Patent Office is giving out Utility Patents for things like that it isn't doing its job.


This is a sign of an incompetence!
By nofear4COMment on 6/7/2012 4:20:14 PM , Rating: 2
It define as the inability to perform; lack of competence; ineptitude.
Eg. Administrative incompetence, dysfunctional administrative behaviors that hinder attainment of organization goals.

I just sign up with DialyTech so I can make some comments because how pathetic Apple is trying do. A new iPhone is and will lacking its potential or ability to compete, Apple knew this and Apple use lam tactic to slow down Samsung from becoming gain hug market because Samsung have good product. Shame on you, Apple! Go f*&*fing yourself.




RE: This is a sign of an incompetence!
By Initium on 6/8/2012 2:15:28 PM , Rating: 2
Don't be too hard on Apple and soft on Samsung. Samsung (along with other domestic handset manufacturers) held up the licensing of iPhones in the Korean market for 2 years until they could produce products that could compete and even then the iPhone was the highest selling phone ever introduced into the Korean market.

Samsung are no angels either. Never forget this is a company that banned employees from forming unions and spied on employees who tried. Samsung sell the Galaxy SII in Korea for around $500 while the SIII will retail in the USA for $200. Samsung have price gouged their domestic market for years to fund their overseas expansion.

Apple have a right to protect their market share and prevent patent violations. But frivolous use of patents to reduce competition is a subversion of the free market. All Apple needs to do is produce a superior product. Something they did with the original iPhone.

The use of patents to hinder foreign manufacturers entering the market appears to be nothing more than admission of Apple's inability to produce competitive products. And that is a shame.


By lagomorpha on 6/10/2012 2:19:22 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Samsung sell the Galaxy SII in Korea for around $500 while the SIII will retail in the USA for $200.


That's just not true. The SIII will retail for something like $650-700 in the US. It's only $200-250 because carriers in the US heavily subsidize it if you're willing to sign a 2 year contract.


more bs
By sprockkets on 6/7/2012 4:13:56 PM , Rating: 2
you think this is bad? Apple also this monday text for an emergency bandage on all htc phones. Now you may think I'm just angry at apple because I'm a fanboy, but I have my reasons. According to FOSS patents, apple wants to ban htc again because they think that it is still infringing on their data detectors patton. Their evidence consists of the gmail app with the pop a menu about what to do with a url. but no htc phone comes with the gmail app, neither does it come with the stock android email app. so ru pauls lawsuit claims are a bunch of bs.

screw apple, diaf.




RE: more bs
By Omega215D on 6/7/2012 4:46:02 PM , Rating: 2
Wait, are you also on PhoneArena? I could swear someone with your name is posting similar sentiments...

Anyhow, it's sad how the devout hipster iDouches are defending the various lawsuits and trademark cases (Taco on Phonearena).


RE: more bs
By sprockkets on 6/7/2012 5:30:53 PM , Rating: 2
Yep. and on ars. and I just noticed the errors of Google's voice recognition :)


RE: more bs
By testerguy on 6/8/12, Rating: -1
Too much spare money?
By probedb on 6/7/2012 4:52:20 PM , Rating: 2
I guess Apple doesn't know what to do with all that cash it has other than try and sue people :)




RE: Too much spare money?
By vXv on 6/7/2012 4:56:03 PM , Rating: 2
Well they are free to send the extra cash my way ... I have some uses for it ;)


Would make a great advertisement
By ven1ger on 6/7/2012 4:57:53 PM , Rating: 4
If ruling goes against Apple, can you imagine a better advertisement slogan for Samsung or even HTC?

"The Smartphone that Apple tried to ban because they couldn't compete against it."




Stress testing
By superstition on 6/8/2012 12:11:59 AM , Rating: 2
The best way to get patent reform is for a company to try to exploit the system as much as possible.

This is just like white hat hacking. Instead of sitting pretty on flawed systems, designers will be tasked with improving those systems when people try to exploit them. Pretending that ignorance is bliss (that the flaws should be ignored) is silly.

There is also the continuing issue of the courts not being able to respond quickly and adequately to tech disputes, another issue where pressure will expedite resolution.

Pressing a broken system until it's obvious even to the apathetic that it's broken is a good idea. It's the best way to get it fixed.

Or, we can just pretend that Apple is an evil entity from outer space. The ad hominem fallacy is always the go-to for lazy minds.




RE: Stress testing
By Initium on 6/8/2012 2:18:55 PM , Rating: 2
Hear, Hear! Well said that man.


Get a clue, Apple-reich
By ProZach on 6/8/2012 3:08:38 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
...[Samsung] is actually beating Apple in unit sales, although trailing far behind it in profit.


So, the profitability of iPhones is huge. Big whoop. It actually hurts potential customers. Also, it is well known the prior CEO and many of his fanbois flaunt their self-righteous superiority over others.

With the Android market the majority of (non-conceited) consumers get a good competitive product. In my demographics the people will choose a "dumb" phone if their only alternative is an over-priced iPhone.

I stand by my previous statement Apple exercises technological genocide. What a way to tarnish one's own image.

Have a nice day!




RE: Get a clue, Apple-reich
By ProZach on 6/8/2012 3:18:44 PM , Rating: 2
[edit] I should have written in the first paragraph that iPhone profitability hurts acquiring more potential customers.

Obviously, overpriced iPhones opens the gap for price competition.


Damn
By Ish718 on 6/7/2012 10:36:53 PM , Rating: 3
Instead of focusing on releasing a better product to beat their opponent, Apple goes anti competitive instead.

Apple needs to go hell like Steve Jobs... 0ops




Problem solved!
By frostxburn on 6/7/2012 4:52:54 PM , Rating: 2
I think California should just secede from the union and become its own country. Ill run for governator and hopefully everyone will think I'm cool enough and vote for me and then I will make litigation on such oblivious patents illegal and make them pay for the time wasted to all parties.
Done.




By Boze on 6/7/2012 10:25:43 PM , Rating: 2
...Apple is playing an extraordinarily dangerous game here.

Frankly, I've watched Apple's patent litigation with aloof amusement, but now I'm at the point where I'm actually offended at their arrogance.

Intel supplies all the chips (and motherboards if I'm not mistaken) for Apple's desktop line. Samsung supplies most of the displays and SOCs for the i-devices. I suggest Intel & Samsung join forces and simply stop selling their products to Apple.

I would even go so far as say break your contracts, pay the penalties for doing so, and watch how fast Apple is brought to heel due to the lack of chip / display manufacturing capacity of their own.




the good news is....
By jnemesh on 6/8/2012 5:13:23 PM , Rating: 2
That the courts are starting to see just how Apple is playing this game, and they are sick of it too!

I predict that Apple is going to lose most of their court cases, or at the very least, have rulings that greatly reduce what Apple thinks they are entitled to.

Apple is starting to wake up and realize that their current offerings don't compete, and are trying to litigate their way to dominance. The courts are not a big fan of this approach!

My guess is that Apple will continue to get smacked around by the courts, but it won't stop them from continuing to try.




Apple
By bbcdude on 6/9/2012 11:21:36 PM , Rating: 2
Lets all be really honest about what this is. This is Apple having more money sitting around with no idea what to do with it. It shows how devoid of new ideas they are, that they have enough money to do literally anything they want, but lawsuits and bullying is all they can think of.




What the hell has happened...
By Hackpiper on 6/11/2012 9:02:28 AM , Rating: 2
...to Apple?

The transformation into the world's most pathetic patent troll is now complete. They've stopped innovating and ramped up the lawyer biz. What a joke.

They SHOULD be worried about Samsung's Android stuff because it makes the clunky, restrictive iOS look like the ugly antique that it is.

The interesting thing is that they have NO answer whatsoever to the dark horse in all this - WP7. It's languished out of the gate, but the reviews from users, tech wonks, analysts, editors,and pundits is enthusiastically positive. Looks NOTHING like iOS, works MUCH smoother, and is simply a more satisfying mobile experience. Seems now to be catching on at last.

Methinks the Apple Reality Distortion Field is running out of juice, too. I know lots of people who are jumping to Android phones when they upgrade...and now some are discovering WP7 as well.

Time to sell APPL shares and take your profits?




Concerned?
By name99 on 6/7/12, Rating: 0
Just remember, fair play
By Commodus on 6/7/12, Rating: -1
RE: Just remember, fair play
By Cheesew1z69 on 6/7/2012 4:04:47 PM , Rating: 3
And if Apple had actually invented the stuff they patent...well, no need to explain further.


RE: Just remember, fair play
By Cheesew1z69 on 6/7/2012 6:47:19 PM , Rating: 2
rated down for truth...pathetic...


RE: Just remember, fair play
By vXv on 6/7/2012 4:55:17 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
If you think Apple is abusing patents through its lawsuits, then you should also advocate for Samsung to withdraw all its countersuits ... no exceptions.


That's the point here ... if Apple hadn't started this nonsense Samsung wouldn't have sued them in the first place.


RE: Just remember, fair play
By Florinator on 6/7/2012 5:05:24 PM , Rating: 2
Samsung is no innocent little girl either. They are known for their propensity to reverse engineer competing products, they are cut-throat and have sometimes questionable business ethics as well (such as filing counter-patents for the same technology in countries where the original patent owner did not bother to file).

Nevertheless, I think this is becoming ridiculous and Apple is pretty much looking foolish here, they are pissing their pants that Samsung is eating their lunch, so they bring out the guns...


RE: Just remember, fair play
By wiz220 on 6/7/2012 5:21:10 PM , Rating: 3
Notice how even you say "countersuits", as in defensive instead of offensive. This is an important distinction in this discussion.


RE: Just remember, fair play
By WinTard on 6/7/12, Rating: 0
RE: Just remember, fair play
By elleehswon on 6/8/2012 8:38:26 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Remember, you're not embarking on an idealistic crusade by refusing to buy an iPhone and getting a Galaxy S III instead -- you're just buying from a Korean megacorporation instead of an American one.


That draws too many parallels with the crap that the American car companies were pulling in the mid 70's to mid 80's. Hey, it's crap, but it's American, so you're a terrorist if you don't buy this Ford pinto.


Is this English?
By Fat32 on 6/7/12, Rating: -1
RE: Is this English?
By Omega215D on 6/7/2012 4:13:51 PM , Rating: 3
Apple: All your Samsung are belong to us. You have no chance to release make your time. Ha Ha Ha.

Samsung: Take off every patent lawyer. You know what you doing.

Sorry, couldn't resist.


RE: Is this English?
By elleehswon on 6/8/2012 8:31:20 AM , Rating: 2
Moooove iPhone!


This is great!
By JackBurton on 6/7/12, Rating: -1
RE: This is great!
By retrospooty on 6/7/2012 4:03:18 PM , Rating: 2
Good luck with that. They will get what tehy deserve from this. Nothing.


RE: This is great!
By Loveless on 6/8/2012 6:01:22 PM , Rating: 1
You would figure that Samsung would be used to this stuff by now and have already prepared for Apple's legal attack as part of the product development of their phone.

If so, I don't think Apple will gain much traction.


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