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Apple Mac mini gets a thorough redesign

When it comes to Apple's computing products, there are a few that seem to not get much attention. The Mac Pro is one of them, and the other is the Mac mini. Today, however, Apple is showing a little bit of love for its tiny little desktop machine.

The Mac mini is now sporting an all new design, which looks to be both flatter and wider. The body is now only 1" thick and is carved from a single piece of aluminum. On the bottom of the device is a circular access panel that allows you to gain access to the memory modules.

The Mac mini now sports either a 2.4GHz or 2.66GHz Core 2 Duo processor and 2GB of RAM (up to 8GB is supported). Graphics duties are handled by an NVIDIA GeForce 320M integrated GPU with 256MB of DDR3 memory.

Storage duties are handled by either a 320GB or 500GB SATA hard drive. An 8x slot-loading SuperDrive soldiers on for your DVD and CD media.

Port selection includes one Firewire 800 port, four USB 2.0 ports, GbE, HDMI, mini DisplayPort, and an SD slot. Wireless connectivity includes Bluetooth 2.1+EDR and 802.11n.

“The sleek, aluminum Mac mini packs great features, versatility and value into an elegant, amazingly compact design,” said Apple's Philip Schiller. “With twice the graphics performance, HDMI support and industry-leading energy efficiency, customers are going to love the new Mac mini.”

While Apple's new Mac mini is no doubt stylish, you will pay through the nose to get one. Pricing starts at a a whopping $699 (a $100 increase over the previous model) and it is available now from Apple.com.



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Love the form factor, but shouldn't it be an i5?
By Bateluer on 6/15/2010 4:38:59 AM , Rating: 5
Why is it still a C2D? Wasn't the previous iteration of the Mac Mini the same C2D too, 2.4Ghz and 2.66Ghz?

Should really be an i5 now.




By piroroadkill on 6/15/2010 4:43:09 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah. This is boring.


By retepallen on 6/15/2010 5:02:28 AM , Rating: 5
It just means lower cost for Apple and higher margins.


By Mitch101 on 6/15/2010 8:48:20 AM , Rating: 1
This is great news.
The previous generation boxes will now be sold off so that they can buy the newer ones.

Then buy this broadcom chip.
http://www.logicsupply.com/products/bcm970012

Then install XBMC
http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=XBMC_for_Mac_on_Apple_...


By Mitch101 on 6/15/2010 9:02:55 AM , Rating: 2
Here is a better link

Mac Mini + XBMC + Broadcom Crystal HD = 1080p video!
http://www.xlml.com/aehso/2010/01/13/mac-mini-xbmc...


By alanore on 6/15/2010 10:45:31 AM , Rating: 5
Or you could wait a bit and get a Boxee box for under 200 bucks.


By fsardis on 6/15/2010 12:05:27 PM , Rating: 3
What is all this? Command line? On a home system? On an APPLE!! system?!?!?! I thought those things just work. I just plug things and they work like magic. When Steve said BOOM in his presentation he did not say anything about command lines or ignoring errors that OSX pops up.


By quiksilvr on 6/15/2010 8:56:57 AM , Rating: 3
Given that this is running on notebook processors, it isn't shocking its this thin, but what I do find shocking is that they put the power brick inside and they didn't even go to mobile Core i3s to cut the power usage. Makes me wonder how hot this thing will get.


By jonmcc33 on 6/15/2010 3:02:25 PM , Rating: 2
It won't be on your lap so it won't be that bad. Mobile Core 2 Duo processors run quite cool with proper internal cooling.


RE: Love the form factor, but shouldn't it be an i5?
By spread on 6/15/2010 11:42:52 AM , Rating: 5
Who cares? I'll buy anything that's Apple and shiny.

/typical mac user


By Senju on 6/16/2010 12:20:36 AM , Rating: 2
Me too. If it has APPLE written on it, I will buy it!


By piroroadkill on 6/15/2010 4:48:36 AM , Rating: 5
That isn't the point. The point is that an i5 can potentially run at a lower idle power, and that when you're paying a lot of money for a newer product, you expect that product to actually be better. a 2.4 C2D is not better.


RE: Love the form factor, but shouldn't it be an i5?
By hughlle on 6/15/10, Rating: -1
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 6/15/2010 5:03:01 AM , Rating: 5
Well, considering they raised the price by $100, they should have given folks a lot more than a C2D.


By hughlle on 6/15/2010 5:15:06 AM , Rating: 5
sorry, it's early, completely missed the $100 hike somehow. in that case i fully agree :)

BAH APPLE!


RE: Love the form factor, but shouldn't it be an i5?
By reader1 on 6/15/10, Rating: -1
By fsardis on 6/15/2010 11:53:44 AM , Rating: 2
Except for one little problem: The entire Mac line is not selling well at all and the Mini sells the least of all since they started increasing the price. Let's face it, Apple is a gadget/toy maker, their main income is not from their desktops. Increasing the price on a piece of equipment that has 5 year old technology at its core is a bit ridiculous. The old was selling badly and the new one will sell just as badly.


By DEVGRU on 6/15/2010 12:38:44 PM , Rating: 5
Hey, they have to pay for the Foxconn workers wage increase somehow. Might as well stick it to all of their loyal sheeple, because they can. Baaaaaa.


By themaster08 on 6/15/2010 12:57:37 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
The previous $699 Mac Mini was selling well enough that Apple didn't see the need for a $599 version, because people like myself will buy one anyway regardless of the price.
Finished the sentence off for you, friend.


By roadhog1974 on 6/16/2010 11:31:42 PM , Rating: 2
I want one.
Don't want to spend that much though.

So don't have one.

Of course all companys sell their products for as much
as they think they can get.

Windows could certainly be sold cheaper.


By Bateluer on 6/15/2010 5:41:39 AM , Rating: 5
My point exactly. The Mac Mini has an extremely suave and sexy design, but saddling it with a C2D is just plain insulting. An i5 would give more performance per watt.

The Mac Mini is Apple's most compelling, non-phone/ipod, product.


By retrospooty on 6/15/2010 8:17:54 AM , Rating: 4
"The Mac Mini is Apple's most compelling, non-phone/ipod, product. "

I used my friends mac mini as my primary system for a month to get to know the Mac OS... Compelling?

Dood, its a laptop without an LCD. $150 worth of hardware for $700? I dont think so.


By Bateluer on 6/15/2010 8:42:20 AM , Rating: 2
I said 'most compelling' of Apple's product line. Their desktops are outrageously expensive and only those people with lots of cash to burn or a complete ignorance of technology buy them. Their laptops are ok, but priced extremely high as well, and coupled with QA issues that Apple barely acknowledges and never completely resolves.

The form factor of the Mac Mini is ideal for an HTPC, but, as most of us seem to state, its priced itself out of its most ideal market while offering minimal hardware improvements.

Its said though, the closest OEM machine I can think of off the top of my head with a similar form factor is the Dell Zino. The Zino's CPUs are even more underpowered, though it does have the option of discrete video. If Dell were to couple the Zino with a more powerful CPU, say an i3 530 or Athlon II X2 240 and ditch the 3.5in hard drive for a 1.8 or 2.5in hardware, while keeping almost the same price point, the Zino would be fantastic.

For the moment, people looking for decent HTPCs are best served by building their own mini-ITX systems.


By omnicronx on 6/15/2010 12:00:59 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
An i5 would give more performance per watt.
While doing what exactly ? ;)..

They most likely can't package the i5 with an Nvidia integrated GPU, i.e they would be stuck with Intel graphics.

Have fun sitting at CPU high load while doing things such as watching movies at high resolutions (the new mini is suppose to easily support 1080p playback).

So in the end its how you would use your mini, the ppw advantage would dramatically decrease anytime you are using your PC for graphics intensive tasks, and when idle the power drain would not be considerably different. i.e I don't agree with your PPW assessment, if you used it as a HTPC, you could end up consuming more power.

Do I understand the price increase for marginally better hardware?(that is not even really new).. No, but I can understand the choice of sticking with a c2d.(which seems to be more of Nvidias problem than Apples)


By MonkeyPaw on 6/15/2010 7:41:21 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
Well, considering they raised the price by $100, they should have given folks a lot more than a C2D.


Remember when the Macmini was affordable? This product has completely lost it's niche. I remember buying the original for, what, $399? It is now a $699 piece of hardware. I don't care how thin it is or how cool it looks, it's just too expensive. In a world where most companies update the specs of hardware and keep the price the same, Apple goes and jacks the price up some more. So much for an entry level Mac.


By Spivonious on 6/15/2010 10:11:18 AM , Rating: 4
But it's white! But it's got half-eaten fruit on it!


By Dennis Travis on 6/15/2010 12:54:50 PM , Rating: 2
Just a note. The first G4 low end Mini was $499 and not $399. I wish they would have kept a lower cost version in the lineup.


By nafhan on 6/15/2010 8:13:45 AM , Rating: 2
The reason for sticking with Core 2 might also have something to do with the graphics chip/chipset they are using. Maybe they want to stick with the Nvidia chipset for some reason.
Anyway, plastic body instead of aluminum and drop the price to $500 would be much better IMO. If you buy this, you're buying it because it's pretty or so you can tell your friends you have a Mac. I just bought a $400 laptop that had similar specs.


By KillerNoodle on 6/15/2010 9:18:41 AM , Rating: 3
Are you sure that the price increase is not due to the increased manufacturing costs at Foxconn?


By fsardis on 6/15/2010 11:47:06 AM , Rating: 2
Sarcasm?

They sacrificed 0.07% of their profit margins to help Foxconn workers and to make up for it they charge $100 extra on a piece of technology so outdated that it should belong in a museum. We are talking 2006 technology here, sold for the price of a mid-range modern system.


By KillerNoodle on 6/15/2010 1:22:19 PM , Rating: 2
Yes.


By brshoemak on 6/15/2010 8:23:48 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
so maybe they're trying to keep costs down for the end user


Whaa? Sorry, I must have misread the title of the article, I could have sworn it said "Apple" in there. My mistake.


By omnicronx on 6/15/2010 11:51:30 AM , Rating: 1
I don't think they can combine an nvidia integrated gpu of that calibre with an i5..(as per Nvidia's legal issues) They would have to include a dedicated GPU or use Intel integrated graphics.

When it comes down to it, what will make the most impact for the kind of things the mac mini will be used for? GPU power? (so you can watch HD video etc) or increased clockspeed?

I'll have to go with the former.. CPU speed is irrelevant if you can't make use of it, and I really doubt you can do things such as output 1080p video with Intel integrated graphics, iCore5 or not..


By Pirks on 6/15/2010 12:26:35 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
I really doubt you can do things such as output 1080p video with Intel integrated graphics, iCore5 or not
Read this:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2901/3
and this:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2901/4

Don't you see that you look like an idiot now, omni? ;)

Stop spewing BS about i5 being unable to play back 1080p videos or play old or low detail games, or else I'll drawn your sorry ass with links to i5 reviews that show how idiotic your comments are ;)

You just have to keep up to date with Anand's reviews, that should be easy enough for ya buddy :))


RE: Love the form factor, but shouldn't it be an i5?
By Phoque on 6/15/2010 5:55:42 AM , Rating: 2
It really doesn't matter, because the users this product is aimed at care more about fashion than technicalities.


By BZDTemp on 6/15/2010 6:10:42 AM , Rating: 2
It is starting to look like you're right. But it was not so in the beginning. Back then it was a question of the complete package.

For a long time the Mini has been a great small and virtually silent computer for those wanting a non-gaming computer. My old G4 Mac Mini started out as a cheap way to try out the mac world and has since changed role to run as a low power server using 1/10th the electricity than an old PC would.

Unfortunately Apple has let the Mini slide in that the price/value has gone from being in touch with none-Apple gear to becoming to expensive. If one only looks at micro PC's it is not that grim but this new Mini has not exactly helped. To bad I think.


By DanNeely on 6/15/2010 6:58:45 AM , Rating: 2
probably the same reason the 13" macbooks are still C2D. THe undersized mobo's apple is using don't have room for the 3rd chip they'd need to pair an nVidia GPU with an i5.


RE: Love the form factor, but shouldn't it be an i5?
By Pirks on 6/15/2010 10:08:45 AM , Rating: 2
That's BS since Mini doesn't need nVidia GPU anyway, i5 with integrated GPU is more than enough for it. Jobs is an idiot. Or whoever designed that stupid thing.


By Pirks on 6/15/2010 12:15:49 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
They CAN'T package an Nvidia integrated GPU with an i5
But they DON'T need nVidia integrated GPU to begin with.
quote:
Intel integrated graphics + any CPU is not more than enough, especially for what the average person would use a mini for.
Same BS again. Average person uses Mini to watch video and do office work, and maybe play a few old games like WoW or HL2, and for all these tasks Intel integrated video in i5 is more than enough. Read Anand's i5 reviews for Christ sake.


By DanNeely on 6/15/2010 3:26:41 PM , Rating: 2
They can use an nVidia GPU that connects via PCIe. What they can't do is use an nVidia chipset; this means they'd need to have CPU + Intel chipset (1 chip) + nVidia GPU, vs CPU + nVidia chipset (1 chip); having to squeeze a 3rd piece of silicon onto the board would go against small being the driving feature in design.


By SongEmu on 6/15/2010 8:49:37 AM , Rating: 2
Isn't that so they can use an nVidia integrated graphics solution because of licensing issues with Intel and nehalem and later chips?


By ultimatebob on 6/16/2010 8:26:50 PM , Rating: 2
Yep... $700 for a system with a Core 2 Duo was a decent price 2 years ago, but now it's just insanely overpriced.


All Apple desktop computers are complete BS
By NanoTube1 on 6/15/2010 2:47:17 PM , Rating: 3
If one wants a killer desktop Mac without paying ridiculous $$$ - BUILD A HACKINTOSH: a normal PC with Win 7 + Mac OS X.

It works, it's actually fun to install and it's cost effective. You can even buy the Snow Leopard (10.6.3) retail DVD and install a legit copy - no need for piracy.

Start here: http://www.insanelymac.com/




RE: All Apple desktop computers are complete BS
By Pirks on 6/15/2010 3:28:45 PM , Rating: 1
Hackintosh is waste of time for idiots since you can run latest OS X 10.6 in VMWare 7 just as well if not faster. Why wasting time on Hackintosh at all??


RE: All Apple desktop computers are complete BS
By hexxthalion on 6/16/2010 6:40:57 AM , Rating: 2
not true, native hackintosh installation runs much better then on VMware - tested by myself.

been on hackintosh for a long time (on quad,4870x2,4gb ram), i think since 10.5.5 but then it was quite hard to tweak it, every update was causing problems with gfx driver and if the wasn't netkas.org site i'd be doomed.

later i just got pissed off, checked what exactly i'm doing on my pc and decided to sell it and bought macbook pro.

wasn't gaming that much on the pc, mostly on ps3 so the need to have a high spec pc became irrelevant.

hackintoshing is good to test the os and to find out if it's for you but it definitely is not a long term solution.


By Pirks on 6/16/2010 10:12:33 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
hackintoshing is good
WAS good with OS X 10.5 and VMWare 6, IS a waste of time with OS X 10.6 and VMWare 7


RE: All Apple desktop computers are complete BS
By NanoTube1 on 6/16/2010 12:55:24 PM , Rating: 2
Why like this? why write not good? :)

Seriously, I am writing this post on a Hackintosh running 10.5 and it works like a charm.
Running 10.6 is even better and easier on Hackintoshes today thanks to all the boot CDs and USB techniques. You install a retail 10.6 DVD (not hacked) and run the updates directly from OS X's software update service. Install a few kexts and you are good to go!

Then install Windows XP/Vista/7 on another partition or HD and the Chameleon bootloader provides you with a beautiful OS selection interface.

I don't know about VMWare 7 running 10.6 so I cannot attest, but no VM can run as good as native no matter how good the VM is. I am running WinXP on VMWare Fusion 3 on my Hackintosh and it works very nice - but not as nice as when WinXP runs native.

My Hardware:
C2D Quad 6600, 8GB RAM, Intel MB, 2 SATA HDs, SATA DVD-RW, GeForce 9800GTX+.
Mac OS X 10.5.8 fully updated, recognized as a Mac Pro 2,1 :P


RE: All Apple desktop computers are complete BS
By Pirks on 6/16/2010 2:06:45 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I don't know about VMWare 7 running 10.6 so I cannot attest
Yeah, there you go. Come back when you tried it.
quote:
no VM can run as good as native no matter how good the VM is
Blah blah blah. Come back when you tried it.


RE: All Apple desktop computers are complete BS
By NanoTube1 on 6/16/2010 2:40:41 PM , Rating: 2
But it's like driving a Lexus in a virtual machine!!!


By Pirks on 6/16/2010 3:42:13 PM , Rating: 2
Sometimes virtuality is better than reality :P


TAC rules
By Tony Swash on 6/15/10, Rating: 0
RE: TAC rules
By Pirks on 6/15/2010 2:08:25 PM , Rating: 2
Is this John Gruber's piece? Sounds very much like him.

Very good analysis. I as a Techie definitely agree with this ;)

Still don't like iPad for forcing me to recode my videos in Apple format. That's why I don't have iPad and not going to get one.

That's stupid, Tony, that's just insane, compared to my ultraportable Asus notebook (14 hours of battery life on ONE battery, not bad huh?) where I just simply drag/drop videos to it without any recoding.

Much faster and much more comfortable than iPad hours-long recoding process. And I like comfort! Just like you and any other Machead.

THIS is the part that Gruber wants you to skip but don't you fall for this Tony! :P


RE: TAC rules
By gcor on 6/15/2010 7:49:46 PM , Rating: 2
Tony, I totally agree.

I'm a Techie by nature and by profession. For fun I've built PC's for years, including gaming rigs and HTPC's. Professionally, I've built and administered networking plus unix and Windows systems for customers. I've also been a s/w engineer architecting and developing bleeding edge stuff, such as distributed multi-tiered transaction processing systems and on a highly successful 3G mobile network implementation.

I think I can say hand on heart I'm pretty Techie.

Personally, due to time constraints (family and career) I simply can no longer afford the time required to make Windows and Linux systems do what I want them to. When I can charge easily over $400 per hour, I can't justify spending my limited time on monkeying about with clunky stuff anymore.

In fact, if you can put a dollar value on your time and if you don't love playing with tech stuff and it is a chore, then the cost of making stuff work quickly becomes enormous.

As you've probably guessed, I've swapped over the Apple gear at home and it's achieved exactly what I needed. It's saved me a ton of time and hence money and reduced the hassle of getting stuff done. Honestly, as a Techie, it's a breath of fresh air.


RE: TAC rules
By fsardis on 6/16/2010 1:28:36 AM , Rating: 2
And a techie such as yourself cannot get a Windows box from Dell and set it up to do whatever functions you want it to do?
I'm sorry but your post is contradictory. Windows 7 is capable of doing more things out of the box than any Mac that has ever existed. It is also far easier to set up and gives the user much more control.
I have a Mac and a PC and I am having problems getting the Mac to act as anything other than an oversized internet browser/media player.
Windows 7 has shadow copies for backup. No user action or extra expenses necessary in contrast to time machine.
Windows 7 has a far easier to use GUI that is not a remnant of the single processing days. Can you tell me how many windows an application has open in a Mac at a glance without right clicking on the bar? Can you drag and drop to a non-visible window on the Mac? The list about GUI problems on the Mac is huge. Heck, there is no cut/paste on Finder. Good job, Apple, this alone would drive any real techie insane.
Windows 7 networking is up and running easily and securely. The Mac needs to be set up for networking out of the box and comes with the firewall disabled.
Windows 7 gives access to latest hardware and software. Apple is still years behind on both accounts.
Windows 7 does NOT come with autologin turned on by default. I wanted to get a gun and shoot Mum-ra for this when I first got my Mac.
Windows 7 does not take 70 pixels just to provide me with a basic interface of which applications are running.
Windows 7 can run decent games and 99% of the software out there is made for Windows. Surely as a techie who values time, you can appreciate that much at least. Or do you save time from Windows installations and then dedicate that time as a s/w engineer to make apps that do what you want your Mac to do?

It seems people fail to realise that the reason Apple is still at the rock bottom of market share when it comes to desktop, is not because the price is high. Come on, let's face it, a basic iMac is not too expensive despite being a ripoff. It's not like you are buying a Zonda or an F430. Anybody with a decent income can buy one in some way or another and yet still people opt for Windows.

As for the perpetual argument about the Mac experience:

http://www.asktog.com/columns/044top10docksucks.ht...

Some words on the matter by the man who created the Mac experience for Apple. In summary: it sucks.


RE: TAC rules
By gcor on 6/16/2010 5:07:12 AM , Rating: 2
I didn't say I couldn't get Windows to do what I wanted it to, just that it takes vastly more time and in my opinion the solution tends to be inferior.

My MAIN point is that in taking more time, it costs me money. This extra dollar cost in time vastly outweighs the additional dollar cost of Apple kit.

By the way, I disagree about the merits of the Windows OS vs. the OS-X OS. I've been a part of OS design for platforms (all real time embedded on telecoms switch, so definitely NOT directly applicable) and I was heavily involved in AT&T V4 back in the day when it had 90%+ market share of Unix systems. So, with my biases well declared, I think Windows as a platform has always been a dog's breakfast of an OS. Quality and stability are definitely not things I expect to find the Windows platform. It's certainly good enough if you don't mind the occasional BSOD, but it's definitely only "good enough" and nothing more.


RE: TAC rules
By hexxthalion on 6/16/2010 6:53:05 AM , Rating: 2
exactly the same reason for me - too much time spent on tweaking it and keeping it up and running, it's like a tamagochi, you don't feed it and it dies.

that's why i switched to apple - i don't need to care about it, it does exactly what i want it to do


RE: TAC rules
By fsardis on 6/16/2010 1:34:27 AM , Rating: 2
By the way, I wish to add that I have dedicated large amounts of time on GUI research and have done multiple projects on GUIs.
Based on everything I learned from those projects, the Mac GUI is a monstrosity and my experience with OSX tells me the same. It's like they made the GUI with the sole purpose of using screen space as inefficiently as possible with as many user errors as possible and as less informative as possible. Quite a feat really but in the wrong direction.


RE: TAC rules
By DCstewieG on 6/16/2010 12:12:53 AM , Rating: 2
Dead on. DailyTech completely shows its roots in the PC enthusiasm of AnandTech. Ironically, Anand can't really say enough good things about Macs now. It was actually his first article about trying the Mac for a month and loving it that made me seriously consider the platform after the terrible experiences I had in high school with the fruity iMacs and the awful puck mouse.

For gamers there's no argument, building a Windows machine is the way to go. But for anyone else, a Mac should be a serious consideration.


An alternative?
By fsardis on 6/15/2010 6:15:21 AM , Rating: 5
The Mac Mini+

It has a carbon fibre body and the Apple logo is made from a single piece of marble. It has an Intel Pentium 4 @ 3GHz with 512MB RAM and a 40GB HDD. The price will be $900 and will be released for Christmas 2010. And for an extra $100 you can have it signed by his greatness SJ.




RE: An alternative?
By gcor on 6/15/2010 7:48:29 AM , Rating: 2
LOL!

You got it right on!


Eh..
By stlrenegade on 6/15/2010 9:43:03 AM , Rating: 2
Just get an Acer Revo for your HTPC and save 400 bucks.




RE: Eh..
By gcor on 6/15/2010 7:27:28 PM , Rating: 2
I built a Windows based HTPC a while back, with LCD screen and remote on/off etc. Honestly, I thought the machine and interface were more than a bit clunky. The wife and kids found it too unfriendly and slow (i.e. resume from standby) to want to program TV recordings, etc. Really, it didn't come close to being a "consumer electronic" device, it was still too much of a PC trying, and found wanting, to be something else.

On the other hand, we tried setting up a Mac laptop as an HTPC for a trial run and it performed much better for the job. Except for the cost of course.

Perhaps I'd better start looking into a Hacintosh.


RE: Eh..
By B3an on 6/17/2010 12:19:17 AM , Rating: 2
Have you ever even used Win7?
Because i cant believe you honestly prefer OSX for a HTPC, it's just ridiculous.


Out yo damn mind...
By XSpeedracerX on 6/15/2010 6:07:48 AM , Rating: 3
If you think this thing is worth $700 + tax. No way hosa. core 2 duo + only 2GB of ram? There are e-machine walmart boxes with more digital horse power than that! For $700 you could almost walk away with two of them to boot.

No wonder this thing is practically ignored. Jeez.




.....
By B3an on 6/15/2010 4:41:32 AM , Rating: 2
Yawn.




LOL
By Acanthus on 6/15/2010 5:02:44 AM , Rating: 2
Enjoy your July 2006 performance.

This thing is a rip without an i3/i5/ or the special i7 dual core sku they created just for marketing for apple.




Disappointed!
By gcor on 6/15/2010 8:07:50 AM , Rating: 2
For me, the Mac Mini has definitely priced itself out of the market.

I've been wanting to get a Mac Mini to serve as an HTPC machine by adding an HD TV tuner and a large external HDD for storage of photos, home vidoes, music etc. I really like the Apple 10 foot interface and it'd play nice with the other Mac equipment in the house.

Sadly, the old price made it a bit too steep for what it was going to do for me and the CPU grunt only just allowed simultaneous recording and playback.

Now the price has gone up significantly, while the CPU has taken only a tiny bump. There's no chance of it handling two tuners. So other than a robust case on a non-portable device, what do I get for my extra $100? The old graphics could happily do 1080p playback, so the GPU update is of no value to me, or probably anyone else. It's not like it's going to play games at 1080p. Even old Steam ones.

So where's all the love gone Steve? You feeling poor or something? If you hold out your worn out old cap, I'll throw some coins in.




By SurreDeth on 6/15/2010 9:51:56 AM , Rating: 2
Too late Mac, the Acer Revo 3610 I bought a few months back is running Boxee just fine and its less than half the price.




Hahah, what the Christ
By Leper Messiah on 6/15/2010 10:08:43 AM , Rating: 2
They took the motherboard from a 13" MBP, stuck it in an aluminum case, and jacked the price up by $100. Way to go apple!




By Xonoahbin on 6/15/2010 2:09:26 PM , Rating: 2
That this setup is worth nowhere near $700--that people would be getting royally ripped off to buy a Mac Mini. But to me, the unbelievably sad part is that people will buy this. I wish so much that we could just open others' eyes for them, so they would realize this is a ripoff. Apple shouldn't be proud that they're a company which relies on ignorance and stupidity to stay afloat..




Better than nettops
By Cullinaire on 6/15/2010 8:30:15 PM , Rating: 2
This computer has the form factor of a nettop (smaller than most, even) with a nice case and better hardware than most (probably all) of them. That explains the 2x price premium (add the Apple logo too) which people will no doubt justify like they have for all previous products.

So what's the use complaining?

Disclaimer: I do not own or plan to own one of these.




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