Sources: Apple, CNBC, Re/code
quote: Steve didn't ever code. He wasn't an engineer and he didn't do any original design, but he was technical enough to alter and change and add to other designs.
quote: Most patents where Jobs was heavily involved “cover the look and feel of a product.”
quote: “The kind of deep industry expertise you would need to really transform the enterprise isn’t in our DNA,” said Cook in an interview with Re/code. “But it is in IBM’s.”
quote: He just sketched a few generic diagrams (which never looked like the finished products), told people what he wanted and let them work out the details.
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quote: If I remember correctly, tony ignored the whole anti-trust issue, which is clearly illegal.
quote: If I remember correctly, tony ignored the whole anti-trust issue, which is clearly illegal. quote: He ignores it all Actually worse. He somehow managed in his mind to twist it around and make Amazon the bad guy and Apple the hero for standing up to the mighty Amazon trying to stop them from offering cheaper ebooks. How dare they.
quote: He ignores it all
quote: Actually worse. He somehow managed in his mind to twist it around and make Amazon the bad guy and Apple the hero for standing up to the mighty Amazon trying to stop them from offering cheaper ebooks. How dare they.
quote: Wasn't Jobs the guy who was forced to resign from Apple?
quote: Wasn't Jobs the guy who made the flop called NeXT?
quote: Didn't Pixar take 10 years to produce its first film under Jobs?
quote: Wasn't Pixar losing money every year until Toy Story was released?
quote: Wasn't Disney the company the created Toy Story and just had Pixar do the work?
quote: Wasn't Jobs uninvolved with Pixar until Toy Story made nearly $400B?
quote: Didn't Jobs engage in anti-competitive practices to establish Apple's digital content business?
quote: Most profitable PC business? You call me a doofus, but you must not understand the Apple financials you love to throw around - Apple's PC sales are sh*t and always have been.
quote: No. He was removed from any direct duties and control of any projects. He quit and sold all his Apple stock but one share. No one forced him to resign.
quote: If you call getting Gil Amelio to give him $400 million for the NeXT OS a flop, then (on a purely financial basis) most of us would like to be that kind of a flop...
quote: If I recall correctly, part of that 10 year period must be laid at the feet of Lucas. Pixar was effectively dying when Jobs invested heavily.
quote: And what company does not lose money every year until their first hit?
quote: No. Pixar created Toy Story and Disney was the distributor. Pixar did not create Toy Story as contract labor to Disney.
quote: The story goes that Jobs was involved, but only loosely so. He checked in with what people were doing, gave his opinion on things here and there, but did not get involved in day-to-day creative decisions on Pixar's films -- even AFTER the success of Toy Story.
quote: Such as? If you're referring to the ebooks case, that is just a stupid rant by the DOJ and judge that don't understand contract law in the first place. Besides, before the case even went to trial the judge publicly stated that she thought Apple was guilty. Apple had lost even before opening arguments.
quote: Back in the late 80s and very early 90s Apple sold more personal computers than anyone else.
quote: Jobs' greatest strength was his ability to see what is likely to become the future once someone else showed it to him. He could look as something with a high percentage of success and say, "That's crap and won't become the future." or "That's great and will be the future."
quote: Actually, Jobs was stripped of all of his duties, assigned to a building with no one else in it, and not given any work at all. They "encouraged" him to resign rather than fire him, in case you're unfamiliar with how companies help executives save face.
quote: The problem with NeXT was not the technology, which was actually lackluster (not bad, just not as advanced as everyone mis-remembers). The problem was the pricing. Throughout his career Jobs insisted his products were of the highest quality, which has been disproved on numerous occasions. No one was going to buy a $10,000 desktop, which is what the NeXT was, despite claims that it was a workstation.
quote: A fair point. But I was criticizing tony's "Jobs was perfect" drivel, not the floundering of Pixar. Which was still pretty bad because of leadership (cough, Jobs).
quote: Uh, if that's what you believe then there's no point in discussing this. You have evidence proving Jobs' manipulations and you still think it was legal?
quote: I'd love to see stats to back that up. A quick check shows that from 1996-present Apple had not broken 7% market share. It must have plummeted when Jobs came back if it was 19% before (I'm sure it wasn't, but if it was it just makes the Jobs myth worse).
quote: False. The list of Apple flops is longer than its successes. For all of Jobs' prescience, he was only successful with the Intel Mac, iPod, iPhone and iPad.
quote: Claiming he saw the future is like saying sci-fi writers saw the future.
quote: He actually, explicitly was encouraged to stay on in an advisory role, but with no direct line management capabilities.
quote: You seem to forget how the industry (and much of the industry media) loudly proclaimed that NeXT was absolutely insane for going with optical media and excluding an optical drive.
quote: You seem to forget that virtually everyone said doing Display Postscript for the display interface was absolutely useless and too much of a computational burden.
quote: You seem to forget how virtually everyone made snide comments (or worse) about how NeXT put all the smarts for printing in the NeXT cube and did "bit blasting" (as NeXT called it back then) to the printer making the printer as dumb as possible.
quote: Yes, the NeXT box was overpriced, but that could be said of a lot of systems that implement next generation capabilities. One of the major problems with NeXT was that it tried to do too many of them at one time.
quote: And, I've read a lot over the years as to whether it was Jobs or his investors that pushed for the ridiculous pricing.
quote: So which was it? Jobs was effectively "hands off" at Pixar or Jobs provided bad leadership? You can't have it both ways.
quote: Yes, I believe there were no illegal actions taken by Apple (or even the publishers) in the eBook case...
quote: Jobs takes over Pixar and steers it towards taking over the film animation business
quote: along the way he steers Apple to becoming the most profitable PC business
quote: Apple bought Pixar.
quote: I don't doubt he is being paid to post like he does, there really can't be any other explanation at this point.
quote: Nobody is criticising you for having a differing opinion.
quote: Actually some idiot just said the only reason I expressed the opinions I do is because I am paid to do so.
quote: If not then all I do is try to balance things out.
quote: As for your criticism that I am relentlessly pro Apple - get back to me when you start to criticise the more numerous posters here who are relentless anti-Apple.
quote: I don't doubt he is being paid to post like he does, there really can't be any other explanation at this point. Most of his posts read like it's scripted PR bullshit.
quote: but the truth is you're just manipulative.
quote: sad sap