backtop


Print 61 comment(s) - last by nixoofta.. on Feb 28 at 3:53 PM

Everything is going to be okay with Jobs, Apple executives' reassurances seem to suggest

Apparently even when off the job, Apple's divisive, but brilliant leader Steve Jobs is still on the job.  At a one hour annual shareholder meeting held at Apple's headquarters in Cupertino, executives said that while Jobs was away, he still was putting in a great deal of work directing the company behind the scenes.  They said that he was deeply involved in their decision making process.

Steve Jobs, who founded Apple and guided it through its two most successful spans -- the Apple II/Mac era and then the iProduct era -- had been the subject of wild rumors last year, when he appeared gaunt and sickly at public appearances.  He initially brushed off the concerns, eventually breaking his silence this January to say he had hormonal problems, which he was receiving treatment for.  However, later in January he announced that he was taking a leave of absence until June, citing that his medical issues were "more complex" than previously expected.

The news launched wild speculation, as Jobs was diagnosed in 2004 with a rare kind of pancreatic cancer, which he received treatment for and apparently had fully recovered from.  Many wonder -- and still do -- whether Apple could continue its recent successes without Jobs' guiding hand.

However, Apple's top executives went on record at the meeting to state that "nothing has changed" with Jobs' health.  They also declined address recent allegations that the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission is investigating the company's disclosures of Jobs' health problems for possible misconduct.

Even if Apple's executives don't find themselves in trouble with the SEC, if Jobs' health deteriorates the company may find itself with a slew of lawsuits from shareholders over its disclosures, according to legal experts.  Apple is in a tricky position as medical disclosures are a gray area of the law, so shareholders could sue if Apple declared too much (potentially causing Apple stock to plunge) or too little (causing shareholders to retain stocks for lack of information).

Apple's shareholders weren't just worried about Jobs, though.  They were also concerned about how the company plans to stay competitive in the currently bleak economy with expensive notebooks and iPods, which some say are overpriced.  Apple's leadership deflected most of these questions as well, avoiding the issue of slumping computer sales and pointing to successes like the iPhone.

Despite the doom and gloom mood at the meeting, the shareholders did perk up a bit when one of the executives suggested they all sing happy birthday to Steve Jobs, who turned 54 on Tuesday.  While they didn't get to see their leader, the song seemed to take shareholders minds off Apple's pressing problems, if only for a moment.



Comments     Threshold


This article is over a month old, voting and posting comments is disabled

By DEredita on 2/26/2009 11:27:44 AM , Rating: 2
Who cares, and where the hell are the new desktops? This Steve Jobs crap seems to be nothing more than a fog screen to the fact that their next generation of desktop hardware has been delayed for far too long now. Their Mac Mini is two years outdated, the iMac is also very out of date, the Mac Pro is outdated, but the next gen of Xeon processors are due out in March. When the hell do they expect to release new desktop hardware? My thought is they don't know, so they use Steve Jobs health as decoy to take buyers and investors attention away from the fact they have no new desktop products to offer.

Apple seems to get their laptop hardware right, but when it comes to their desktop systems, they seem to almost completely neglect it.




By Shadowself on 2/26/2009 1:01:18 PM , Rating: 2
On the desktop issue, Apple has recently been focusing on the Xeons for the desktops as you say. AFAIK the i7 Xeons are not shipping in quantity yet. I've even heard rumors that the i7 Xeions won't ship in quantity until May. After they do, expect Apple to announce a new desktop. So the bottom line on the desktop issue is that Intel is the bottleneck, not Apple.

The Mac Mini is an odd animal. It is a niche filler for Apple is not part of its main/core product line of a general consumer/professional pair for each of desktop and laptop. The Mini should have been refreshed shortly after the MacBook was refreshed, but it was not. While I'm certain that Apple does not lose money on a Mac Mini sale, it definitely does not make as much money as they would on an iMac or Mac Pro sale.

The only possible reason for no refresh might go back to the October financials call. At that time Apple commented that it would be taking a financial hit over the next year (think October 2008 through September 2009) due to an extra R&D expense for an entirely new product. Apple's stock took about a 10% hit because of that statement, i.e., Apple would be spending money without a new product for at least a year. So the question really might be, "Is Apple going to replace the Mac Mini with this new product that we have to wait until this fall to see?"


By omnicronx on 2/26/2009 2:27:44 PM , Rating: 4
You do realize the i7 was never meant to be a mainstream desktop product. It requires the use of DDR3, and a thicker PCB which further raise costs (and cut into margins, hint hint). When the i5 is release perhaps you will see mainstream addoption with the i7 being reserved for enthusiests and high end workstations uses (such as graphic design and video editing), but I really doubt you will ever see Apple using i7 Xeons in quantity.


By bankerdude on 2/26/2009 9:10:20 AM , Rating: 2
...and the stock price rises 25%, lol. Honestly, with the market in panic mode as it is right now, I would hate to be an Apple investor seeing these wild swings every time the company offers a shred of news, good or bad, regarding Jobs' health.




By spread on 2/26/2009 10:40:30 AM , Rating: 3
Everything is fine people. Nothing to see here.

Its their job to say that for the good of the company's bottom line.


By Shadowself on 2/26/2009 12:28:54 PM , Rating: 2
No it's Apple's corporate officers' and board members' legal responsibility to tell the truth about Jobs' health. The don't have to give specific details, but they can't say he's on his way to returning in June (which is what they supposedly said) if they know that it is very likely he'll be too ill to return at that time. If the officers and board members intentionally mislead stockholders in the meeting, a stockholder lawsuit will be the least of their problems.


Just Die
By longshot94 on 2/26/2009 10:51:35 AM , Rating: 1
I wish he would just die so I can stop reading about him over and over and over and over.....




RE: Just Die
By mooncancook on 2/26/2009 12:35:56 PM , Rating: 2
No he can't die. After all he's a god, the Apple god, (he's got worshipers), and gods are immortal.


RE: Just Die
By Shadowself on 2/26/2009 1:02:48 PM , Rating: 1
Whether you hate Jobs or not, hate the press or not, wishing Jobs would die is extremely bad karma.


RE: Just Die
By omnicronx on 2/26/09, Rating: -1
RE: Just Die
By Kenenniah on 2/26/09, Rating: 0
RE: Just Die
By fuser197 on 2/26/2009 3:32:05 PM , Rating: 3
Thou shall not utter such words around Our Dear Leader.


Eat meat
By bobcpg on 2/26/2009 1:17:30 PM , Rating: 4
Contrary to Apple owners, Steve needs to eat meat to stay healthy.

Think about it...




RE: Eat meat
By jonmcc33 on 2/26/09, Rating: 0
.
By sprockkets on 2/26/2009 3:55:59 PM , Rating: 3
"I'm not dead yet!"

"He's not dead!"

"I'm getting better!"

"He's getting better!"

"Oh!" (Plunges sword into the father and now is dead.)




let me just say..
By Moishe on 2/26/2009 3:04:42 PM , Rating: 2
I don't give a rat's ass about Jobs' health.

It's barely news. I don't wish him ill-will but I don't care either way. He's just another rich guy.




L'il surprised...
By nixoofta on 2/28/2009 3:53:51 PM , Rating: 2
...that no one came up with this first.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/164373/?sear...




divisive?
By JAB on 2/26/09, Rating: -1
RE: divisive?
By JasonMick (blog) on 2/26/2009 8:58:47 AM , Rating: 2
Are you kidding? While Apple fans may overall show Jobs a lot of love, they're constantly complaining about how he goes his own way, a la refusing to add certain seemingly easy features to the iPhone.

However, you are partially correct, in that I was primarily referring to how he divides tech users into two classes -- those who love Apple, and those who for the most part can't stand it. There's just a very few of us (I count myself as one of these) who are in between and try to look at the good *AND* the bad.


RE: divisive?
By h0kiez on 2/26/2009 10:12:16 AM , Rating: 2
Using your brain? How novel.

I agree. I don't buy apple stuff because I will always prefer something that lets me tweak and tinker, and I can always get the same functionality for a lot less money, but for people who have more money than know-how, I can see the appeal.

Plus, we all owe apple a lot for forcing others to "innovate" (even if that just means copying Apple's good ideas). From OSs to Smartphones, Apple is ahead of the curve in many ways, and users benefit from it even if they never buy a single Apple product.


RE: divisive?
By Pirks on 2/26/09, Rating: 0
RE: divisive?
By TheFace on 2/26/2009 9:33:40 AM , Rating: 2
All you need to do is look back at the last time he left to see what happened to the company. Then when he came back it rose from the ashes. Granted history doesn't have to repeat itself, but Apple is his vision.

Even in a good market, shareholders fret about the most mundane things. It borders on the ridiculous at times.


RE: divisive?
By kelmon on 2/26/2009 11:14:57 AM , Rating: 2
I tend to think that Apple will be just fine without Steve Jobs. Tim Cook appears to be a competent COO and everything that Jonathan Ive touches seems to turn to gold. However, I don't see anyone replacing him as a CEO in his style so certainly things will be different when he leaves the company.

At the end of the day, Apple is bigger than Steve Jobs and there's a lot of people who work there beyond him.


RE: divisive?
By molgenit on 2/26/2009 2:43:30 PM , Rating: 2
Apple did improve with his return, although people seem to forget he failed with the Next" computer. His persona is a major factor that keeps Apple going and I'm not so sure it will do well after he is gone.


RE: divisive?
By Lord 666 on 2/26/2009 6:32:31 PM , Rating: 2
And flipped the minor Next loss into a huge Pixar jackpot


Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By reader1 on 2/26/09, Rating: -1
By JasonMick (blog) on 2/26/2009 9:01:18 AM , Rating: 5
Like building a computer for $500 that's not junk? Oh wait that's Microsoft/Linux...

Or building a computer that has the APIs needed to actually *play modern 3D games* (gasp!)? Oh wait that's MS too...

Sure MS has its problems, and sure Apple has invented some neat features over the years, but your rhetoric is pure garbage -- Microsoft invents lots of great features on its own (as does the Linux community).


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By reader1 on 2/26/09, Rating: -1
RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By omnizero on 2/26/2009 9:22:43 AM , Rating: 5
not when it is compared to Mac gaming.


By TheFace on 2/26/2009 9:27:32 AM , Rating: 4
Zing!


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By reader1 on 2/26/09, Rating: -1
RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By Motoman on 2/26/2009 10:15:46 AM , Rating: 3
...other than the fact that I know an assload of people who relentlessly play PC games and don't own an XBox 360...

WTF? Clearly, it would be in MS's interest to "kill" PC gaming, right? Huh? What? Asphinctersayswhat?


By borismkv on 2/26/2009 1:55:45 PM , Rating: 2
Uhh...I think you just called yourself a sphincter with that...


By Pirks on 2/26/2009 2:09:30 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
I know an assload of people who relentlessly play PC games and don't own an XBox 360
There's a reason for that, and the name for this reason starts with "t". Also these people are called with a word starting with "p". Actually they are the main reason why big-budget PC gaming is declining and yeilding to consoles. I've been like them but now I'm buying everything on Steam. It's too late though.
quote:
it would be in MS's interest to "kill" PC gaming, right?
Maybe. Having lots of PC gamers changes nothing for MS since PC is already having 90+% of the market, but when they duke it out with Sony they need every single gamer to move to their red-ringed console. So they are indifferent to PC gaming and very passionate about consoles 'cause this is where the big battle is raging on. Why bother about PCs if there's nothing to milk in there? PC gamers won't buy Vista, hence they are not interesting market for MS. Consoles? MUCH more interesting area of a HUGE potential future income 'cause if they succeed they can sell the whole new set of digital multimedia devices in this emerging market, and then tie those to services Apple-way and bingo, another big cash cow for them. Most PC gamers are not very intelligent and can't see that, unfortunately. Read on some economics and financial news, that should help.


By JasonMick (blog) on 2/26/2009 9:26:06 AM , Rating: 4
Yea, I'd have to disagree with you there. I find myself playing Fallout 3 on my PC far more than my Wii of late.

There's lots of great games old and new out for the PC:
Oblivion, Bioshock, KOTOR II, STALKER Chernobyl Clear Skies, Crysis, Half Life 2 & its mods, just to name a few.

Though I'm suspect you're not really serious and are just trying to get a rise or something with your wild remarks...


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By C'DaleRider on 2/26/2009 9:52:11 AM , Rating: 2
It's called trolling, Jason, and many Macolytes seem quite skilled in doing such...guess it comes with OS X.


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By anotherdude on 2/26/2009 11:03:41 AM , Rating: 2
. . .and with lots of idle time


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By Dasickninja on 2/26/2009 11:07:46 AM , Rating: 3
Time not spent gaming.


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By borismkv on 2/26/2009 1:55:16 PM , Rating: 4
That's what happens when all you can do with your thousand dollar computer is surf the web.


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By Pirks on 2/26/2009 2:16:45 PM , Rating: 1
When will you stop spreading lies, boris? Mac Mini starts from $599 and you can do a lot more than just surfing the web with it.


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By omnicronx on 2/26/2009 2:33:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Mac Mini starts from $599 and you can do a lot more than just surfing the web with it.
I agree, it also makes a great paper weight and cup holder! ;)


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By Pirks on 2/26/2009 2:41:02 PM , Rating: 2
Plus a home office, a router/wireless router, an HTPC, an automation hub, a casual gaming box, an email/IM machine, a video coding box, a Unix/Linux dev box, etc etc etc... it's much harder to find what it CAN'T do.

Kind of hard to argue with you on that, omni :)


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By omnicronx on 2/26/2009 2:44:27 PM , Rating: 2
I was joking man ;) I could think of many things to do with a Mac mini, but it wouldn't be using OSX ;)


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By Pirks on 2/26/2009 2:54:50 PM , Rating: 2
Nah, it doesn't matter much, I think Windows and OS X would be pretty close usability-wise on this machine. You got some Windows only software you'd run on it? What software exactly?


By omnicronx on 2/26/2009 5:02:36 PM , Rating: 2
I was thinking more on the line of Mythbuntu frontend ;) (i.e MythTV)

The one time that style 100% does matter is with htpc usage.


By omnicronx on 2/26/2009 5:03:03 PM , Rating: 2
I was thinking more on the line of Mythbuntu frontend ;) (i.e MythTV)

The one time that style 100% does matter is with htpc usage.


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By Pirks on 2/26/2009 1:46:51 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I find myself playing Fallout 3 on my PC far more than my Wii of late.
Still, after Crytek got disappointed in Crysis sales caused by piracy and by the fact that only a few people had high-end PC capable of showing it off "properly" I think we can say bye bye to high-budget big-caliber PC exclusives. It's a looong time since Crysis was released and it ended abruptly suggesting the next chapter... which never came. Go figure. I bet Crytek is very busing with their next console game now, with which they can finally recoup their $30M USD investment in Crysis and CryENGINE 2, with piracy out of their way. So I tend to agree with reader1 on that, Jason. Especially after so many quality big-budget console exclusives lately which we will never see on PC (LBP, GeoW 2, Halo 3, Uncharted, The Darkness and so on and so forth). You also conveniently forgot the fact that MS is heavily pushing their own gaming console, so they are too interested in moving as many PC gamers as possible off Windows (which is supposed to be big business/corporate OS anyway) and onto their red-ringed console ;-)


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By Reclaimer77 on 2/26/2009 5:01:32 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Still, after Crytek got disappointed in Crysis sales caused by piracy and by the fact that only a few people had high-end PC capable of showing it off "properly" I think we can say bye bye to high-budget big-caliber PC exclusives.


They were idiots. They made a game that NO PC at the time could play smoothly at high quality.

But because of Crisis we can say bye bye to big budget big caliber PC exclusives ?

Hey idiot, how many console gamers are playing World of Warcraft right now ? It doesn't get much bigger than that, both in players AND budget.


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By kelmon on 2/26/2009 11:18:09 AM , Rating: 1
It's not dead but it is boring. It's the same old stuff regurgitated but with flashier graphics each time. That said, this pretty much applies to console gaming as well.


By Pirks on 2/26/2009 1:52:07 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It's the same old stuff regurgitated but with flashier graphics
Totally not true, just look at Dead Space and Mirror's Edge.


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By theslug on 2/26/2009 2:57:58 PM , Rating: 2
And this matters, how? Fear 2 was pretty similar to the first one but it was still a whole lot of fun to play.


By kelmon on 2/26/2009 5:17:27 PM , Rating: 2
Oh, don't even get me started on game "sequels". I have the same issue with movie sequels...

*spits*


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By Shadowself on 2/26/2009 12:36:51 PM , Rating: 1
"Or building a computer that has the APIs needed to actually *play modern 3D games* (gasp!)? Oh wait that's MS too..."

So the OpenGL APIs won't work for "modern 3D games"?

So the OpenCL initiative by Apple (now an open standard) won't support "modern 3D games"?

True, the majority of games developers have hopped onto the Microsoft bandwagon and are very loath to try anything else, but that does not mean that Apple does not support APIs that can be used.


By JasonMick (blog) on 2/26/2009 1:50:24 PM , Rating: 3
Its pretty useless to have a bunch of APIs that no one uses.

OpenGL is a pretty nice system (I've actually programmed stuff with it), but its been infrequently upgraded and maintained primarily due to lack of money and interest among the gaming industry. OpenCL is even worse -- its a pretty big joke.

If your argument is that Apple supports gaming features that virtually no game makers use, that seems more like a mistake by Apple rather than a benefit to gamers...

You can't blame game makers for not supporting Apple computers. If Apple actually gave half a crap about gaming and gamers, it would at least have more game makers looking to port their products to it. However, when Apple's leader has repeatedly indicating that he doesn't see gaming as very important, that makes it kinda tough sell for game makers.


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By afkrotch on 2/26/2009 10:02:30 AM , Rating: 2
Give an example. Cause all I see is a lot of Microsoft ideas in OSX.


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By kelmon on 2/26/2009 11:22:23 AM , Rating: 2
Well, the most obvious one today is the Dock that seems to have made its way to Windows 7. You could even say that Jump Lists were OS X features, although I'm not sure that the functionality is completely the same.

There's no denying that Apple incorporates ideas from Windows into its OS (I remember Steve Jobs even crediting Microsoft for Fast User Switching when he introduced it as a feature for 10.3) but it goes both ways and is an immensely dull subject. I'm certainly not about to start listing who brought what first to market.


RE: Microsoft should be relieved to hear this.
By omnicronx on 2/26/2009 2:43:34 PM , Rating: 3
Apple didnt invent the dock either, they were just the first ones to use it on such a wide scale. It actually dates back to the late 80's seen here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ArthurOperatingS...

Apple and Jobs definately knew about this before adding it to their OS.

I had also used the dock concept in linux before the Dock was used by Apple, although it was not nearly as intuitive.

The Dock is a great idea, you can't really blame anyone for copying it.


By Pirks on 2/26/2009 2:59:24 PM , Rating: 2
Jobs stole Dock from OS/2 3.0 :P Everyone knows it :)


By kelmon on 2/26/2009 5:20:48 PM , Rating: 2
Did I mention how unbelievably dull this subject is? There are some pointless debates in computing but this "who thought of what first" is right up there.


By spread on 2/26/2009 10:42:11 AM , Rating: 1
Stealing ideas? Like what. A search bar in a menu.


"Death Is Very Likely The Single Best Invention Of Life" -- Steve Jobs














botimage
Copyright 2014 DailyTech LLC. - RSS Feed | Advertise | About Us | Ethics | FAQ | Terms, Conditions & Privacy Information | Kristopher Kubicki