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Apple hopes the new service will lead to more music sales on iTunes and increased hardware sales

Apple's iTunes Radio service may be the new kid on the block, but it seems to be pleasing independent record labels with its terms -- dare I say, more so than Pandora. 

Apple sent its terms of service around to record labels last week, and it looks like Apple is willing to pay more in royalties than the 13-year-old Pandora online radio service. 

According to the terms, Apple will pay a label 0.13 cents each time a song is played along with 15 percent of net advertising revenue for the first year. In the second year, that 0.13 will bump up to 0.14 cents per song played and 19 percent of ad revenue.

In addition, Apple will provide music publishers more than twice as much in royalties than Pandora. Pandora currently pays labels 0.12 cents per song played. 

Apple will also receive some perks, such as not having to pay royalties in instances where a listener skips a song within the first 20 seconds of it playing; performances of songs are already in the listener's iTunes library; songs on an album that the listener owns part of, and "Heat Seeker" tracks that are special promotions for iTunes. 

While Apple's iTunes Radio service will act as a platform for its iAd mobile advertising system, Apple is likely hoping that using the radio service will push listeners to buy the tracks they like from iTunes. It could also encourage sales of its devices like the iPhone and iPad. 

Apple isn't Pandora's only issue right now. The online radio company has been battling with concerns over what it pays in royalties, and whether it's being fair to artists. Pandora founder Tim Westergren recently addressed some Pandora-related concerns on the company blog

"The first falsehood being disseminated is that Pandora is seeking to reduce artist royalties by 85%," wrote Westergren. "That is a lie manufactured by the RIAA and promoted by their hired guns to mislead and agitate the artist community. We have never, nor would we ever advocate such a thing. I challenge the RIAA to identify a statement from Pandora that says we seek to reduce royalties by 85%. On the contrary, all of the key principals including Cary Sherman (the head of the RIAA) and Mike Huppe (the head of SoundExchange) know that we have been advocating for solutions that would grow total payments to artists. The 85% sound bite preys upon the natural suspicions of the artist community, but it is simply untrue. And although we compete directly with AM/FM radio, which pays zero performance royalties, we have always supported fair compensation to artists."

Westergren said that artists have different opinions from the RIAA about Pandora's music service, and that most of what the RIAA has said about Pandora is untrue. 

Source: The Wall Street Journal

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By BRB29 on 6/27/2013 10:46:43 AM , Rating: 5
This is not what Steve would do

Steve would make artists pay Apple because Apple radio is giving artists exposure.

RE: lol
By rudolphna on 6/27/2013 11:03:15 AM , Rating: 2
This is so true it hurts.

RE: lol
By Dr of crap on 6/27/2013 1:04:50 PM , Rating: 2
That is just great.
Thanks for the laugh!

RE: lol
By haar-drr on 6/28/2013 7:29:51 AM , Rating: 2
nice troll, read the steve jobs book... meaning Steve Jobs wanted DRM on itunes (so artists would be paid... he hated free file sharing)... which is why I wondered why in the book there is not a section on how Steve Jobs changed his mind on DRM... but as the story goes, amazon had 256 mp3 (or was it 128mp3) so apple had to offer 256 AAC no DRM... that was the reason i purchased iTunes music...

By Motoman on 6/27/2013 12:26:33 PM , Rating: 2
The traditional complaint against Pandora as compared to, say, satellite radio, is that they pay a tiny fraction of the royalty fee.

Don't remember off the top of my head what it is, but let's say for the sake of argument that Sirius pays 50 cents per play of a song, whereas Pandora pays a penny.

So that gets people up in arms pretty fast. But here's the problem...when Pandora plays a song, it's going to one individual user. One play - one user. When Sirius plays a song, there might be a million people listening to it.

Using my made-up numbers there, which are pretty close in scale if not in absolute value, it's clear that if 51 or more people are listening to a Sirius-played song, then Pandora is actually providing a higher per-user revenue stream at a penny per play. And even if I wind up being off by a level of magnitude, what are the chances that there's not 500 Sirius listeners for a given song, vs. one listener for a Pandora song? Or even 5,000?

RE: bah
By Concillian on 6/27/2013 3:01:37 PM , Rating: 2
Well the Cracker dude published what he got from Pandora and Sirius, so we have what the actual numbers are. Pandora was $0.000015 per play to him and Sirius was around $1.

So it's a few more than than 50 people per Sirius play to break even, more like >50,000 people hearing each Sirius play. Your point is the same, but I think the magnitude difference is pretty significant.

RE: bah
By Motoman on 6/27/2013 3:55:52 PM , Rating: 2
Well, there may be some further inequity between the way the music producer sends the Pandora vs. Sirius revenue on to him too.

But realistically, I don't have a problem believing that on average there's at least 50,000 people listening to a given song on Sirius. It's a nationwide (worldwide?) service...not like a terrestrial radio station.

It would be highly interesting to see if there's any kind of stats that can be given for the average listener rate on Sirius. Not sure it's possible...but I don't know for sure.

RE: bah
By Motoman on 6/27/2013 3:57:07 PM , Rating: 2
Oh, also I think Sirius radio stations are also available via Dish and/or DirecTV too, aren't they? So there's more listeners there too.

By xti on 6/27/2013 12:27:36 PM , Rating: 2
what is google gonna give me other than this 30 day trial of google music ?

that music software is a pain to navigate thru too.

RE: soooo....
By Arkive on 6/27/2013 1:29:34 PM , Rating: 2

As a user of the Google music service I can say the software is pretty good right out of the gate. The ability to create playlists, see and skip/repeat any song on demand, and the library of music available are all strong features.

What it really comes down to is what platform you prefer. If you use Apple devices, go with their service because the integration will likely be far superior. Same with Google if you're an Android user, even though at the moment the app is mostly standalone, expect that to change as the service gets more traction with users.

Apple can just buy the music industry
By Meinolf on 6/28/2013 9:19:11 AM , Rating: 2
then Apple can start paying themselves

By ProZach on 6/28/2013 2:36:04 PM , Rating: 2
lol, they could start with trying to buy the MJ catalog. The irony being the guy who once had bought the catalog from Apple (music label) has his music bought up by Apple (corp).

footnote: I think there are other similarities between SJ and MJ that I won't bother to mention here. :)

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