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Apple finally revamps the design aesthetic of iOS

Today is a big day for Apple. Many in the tech industry have taken swipes at the company over the lack of new products, the stagnation of iOS, and the rise of Samsung in the smartphone arena. Apple is looking to tackle at least one of those sore points today with the introduction of iOS 7.


The Lockscreen now supports animated backgrounds... where've we seen that before?
 
The overall look of iOS 7 is quite colorful with flourishes that bring to mind both Android and Windows Phone 8 (courtesy of iOS’ newfound “flatness”).
 
Control Center allows you to swipe up from the bottom of the screen to quickly access Wi-Fi/Bluetooth/Screen brightness etc. This is "quick access" functionality that Android users have experienced for years. Apple has also vastly improved multitasking that interestingly looks a bit like what we've already seen with webOS.

From left to right: Weather, Control Center, Safari tabs 

Safari has a new full screen mode, Smart Search field, and a new interface for tabs (you are no longer limited to just 8 tabs).
 
IOS 7 also includes AirDrop, which allows you to quickly share files with friends that are nearby. Craig Federighi took a quick jab at Samsung by stating that you don't have to "bump" phones together to share information.


 
From left to right: Notification Center, Multitasking, AirDrop 

The Camera app has also been given a makeover to make it easier to switch between video, photo, and panorama modes. And instead of seeing an endless scrolling stream of photos that you've taken, the iOS 7 Photos app uses geotagging information to group your photos together based on when and where you were when you took them.


The new Photos app
 
Siri has been upgraded with new, high-quality female and male voices. You can now speak to Siri to do things like turning on/off Bluetooth/Wi-Fi or changing your screen brightness.
 
The App Store has been revamped with the new features aimed at parents (choosing apps by age range) and by showing you popular apps based on your current location. In addition, apps now update in the background (again, a feature that has been available on competing platforms for quite some time).
 
Eddie Cue also introduced iTunes Radio, which has been long rumored for iOS 7. It's free (ad-supported), but those who use iTunes Match will get the service without ads. If your familiar with services like Pandora, Google Play Music, or Spotify; you pretty much know what to expect from iTunes Radio.
 
Other features to look for in iOS 7 include FaceTime audio (high quality voice-only calls over Wi-Fi), Notifications Sync (if you dismiss a notification on your iPhone, it is also dismissed on your iPad), and “iOS in the Car”.
 
The first iOS 7 beta will be available today for the iPhone, while iPad users will gain access in the coming weeks. The full public rollout will take place this fall.

Source: Apple



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"Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By JasonMick (blog) on 6/10/2013 3:26:22 PM , Rating: 5
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Control Center allows you to swipe up from the bottom of the screen to quickly access Wi-Fi/Bluetooth/Screen brightness etc. This is "quick access" functionality that Android users have experienced for years. Apple has also vastly improved multitasking that interestingly looks a bit like what we've already seen with webOS.
My take is that the features look good, in general, albeit nothing Earth-shattering.

On the other hand the icons are hideous (especially the GameCenter, Notes, and Reminders icons) and the overall mix of rounded edges and flat icon seems confused (old v. modern) from a design perspective.

Likewise, inevitably it will be noted everywhere that Apple is emulating Microsoft and Android. This will be at least somewhat damaging to Apple's image that is such a major factor in driving its sales in the absence of a broad product line (with features like larger screens). How damaging it is remains to be seen.

But Apple only has itself to blame for these issues. After all, it essentially sat still in terms of UI development during the era of illness and death of Steve Jobs and then the following leadership transitional period.

As Forestall was fond of saying "Steve wouldn't do that."

He got fired, but if he was around today to say it, he'd be right.

For the record:
Steve Jobs had his fair share of flops and wasn't a nice person in most cases, but he did know how to make a product sell in most cases. Specifically, I feel he would have recognized the danger of standing still and continued to aggressively develop iOS to be (at least) on pace with Android/Windows Phone in looks, had he not fallen ill.

By contrast his successors aren't as demanding or thirsty -- they're content to sit back until the shareholder grumbling grows loud enough they make some panicked effort to toss them a bone -- like this "innovative" redesign.




RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By Chaser on 6/10/2013 3:37:08 PM , Rating: 1
Yup. Day late and a dollar short. Android is now the new cool. The new fashion phone device for many former iSheep.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By othercents on 6/10/2013 3:41:01 PM , Rating: 2
There were plenty of features that were reused from other devices and there were some new features that were neat, however overall use is going to be the same process of unlocking screen launch icon. However I can't say I don't do the same on my android phone either, other than a few widgets that allow me to see certain updates at a glance.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By Spuke on 6/10/2013 3:48:21 PM , Rating: 1
Have any of you guys used iOS7? Can you comment on it?


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By p05esto on 6/10/2013 3:50:47 PM , Rating: 5
Not really, Windows Phone is the new cool in case you missed the memo. Makes Android look like something from the 1990s web era.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By retrospooty on 6/10/2013 4:01:43 PM , Rating: 1
I think the ooposite. Although WP8 is a newer UI, it looks really old and the tiles are too generic. Custom widgets are much nicer, user what you want, and not what you dont and it doesnt look all monotoned and bland.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By Mitch101 on 6/10/13, Rating: -1
RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By retrospooty on 6/10/2013 6:46:03 PM , Rating: 1
What is your point WP8 is newer? I said that. It's just that its tiles are very bland and old looking IMO. They also have very limited functionality compared to a widget. Its a good idea, It's just not all that modern looking. As far as the UI, its great. I may be getting one myself later this year when higher res is supported and larger screens are out.

I don't believe the screenshot here is real, but the rumor is that WP will support higher res later this year and there are larger screen devices coming. http://vr-zone.com/articles/nokia-working-on-a-win...


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By ArcsinZ on 6/13/2013 12:02:56 PM , Rating: 2
The limited amount of information is actually by design. The human eye can only pick up on a few things at a time. By removing the "clutter" you end up with a more functional device. Even though the home screen doesn't have a pretty picture it is actually more modern. The graphics race is over and minimalism is now in. For instance, I have a Droid DNA. When I open it I take a noticeably longer time to see the number of new messages because it's a black number on a white background with a green circle on a red graphic desktop. Your eye has to filter out the red, green, and white to see what information is being presented. On my Windows Phone (soon getting the Lumia 928) it is a single color with white lettering telling me the number of new messages. Plus, the font is much larger. At a single glance I know how many phone calls, text messages, and emails I have and can put the phone back in my pocket. The idea of being "impressive" with a pretty background is like lifting your F-150. It now looks like a rock crawler, but it's so top heavy and probably doesn't have the power to actually make it useful.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By ctodd on 6/10/2013 7:51:20 PM , Rating: 2
And the wheel came out sometime in the mid-4th millennium BC... I don't think the idea of using icons is what makes a UI old. No matter what you want to call it, a Tile is still an icon.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By Motoman on 6/10/13, Rating: 0
RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By PitViper007 on 6/11/2013 8:50:21 AM , Rating: 1
Hey!!! I liked my GeoCities website!!!!


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By Da W on 6/10/2013 4:22:40 PM , Rating: 2
I have a HTC ONE, by far the best phone all around, and i do miss my old Windows Phone. If HTC could port this hardware to WP platform i would ditch android in a heartbeat.


By TakinYourPoints on 6/10/2013 4:28:30 PM , Rating: 2
The HTC 8X is pretty darn good


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By greenchinesepuck on 6/10/13, Rating: 0
RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By Mitch101 on 6/10/2013 4:47:33 PM , Rating: 3
Wait for the Nokia EOS due around July.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By Xplorer4x4 on 6/10/2013 10:51:04 PM , Rating: 2
WHY do you miss your old WP? I am not putting WP down because I used it, all be be it in short fashion on a demo phone in store, but I liked it more then I thought. While I am not a huge fan of the Modern UI, I didn't find it to be bad either. A bit bland, but not bad. It was nice and smooth. It felt super snappy with out resorting to tricks like a splash screen like iOS does.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By Akrita on 6/10/2013 5:55:49 PM , Rating: 3
As an iPhone 5 user and an owner of droid tablet, I have to have to say that my daughters Nokia920 "Windows phone 8" It is the new cool.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By Chaser on 6/10/2013 7:46:50 PM , Rating: 2
No Windows Phone is the "I'm smarter than everyone else" phone. But its mostly a flop like BB. It still has paltry app support and its interface is polarizing.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By lexluthermiester on 6/11/2013 3:56:08 AM , Rating: 1
That post must be sarcasm. Because the first thing I thought when I saw windows phone was how "Win 3ish" it looked. Windows 8 continued in that nonsense. Ya, Windows phone can compete with Android...in Ballmers sad little dreams!


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By BRB29 on 6/11/2013 8:14:05 AM , Rating: 2
It's hard to compete with something that's free


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By retrospooty on 6/11/2013 9:12:10 AM , Rating: 2
REgardless of free or not, its all built into the cost of the phone, and WP8 phones are cheaper than thier Android and IOS counterparts. To gain any real marketshare you have to offer something the others dont. A decent UI isnt enough on its own and WP8 doesnt really bring anything to the table other than finally catching up. Same with BB OS10. All 4 are good now, but for Android and IOS users, there isnt a strong reason to change.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By BSMonitor on 6/10/13, Rating: -1
RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By retrospooty on 6/10/2013 6:48:10 PM , Rating: 3
"Steve Jobs also did not anticipate how quickly a company would COPY his smart phone design........"

YOu mean copy the concept he copied ? Yes, he did anticipate the stuff he copied would be copied. He was preparing to sue just days after the iPhone was announced, months before it was released.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/apple-b...


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By Alexstarfire on 6/10/2013 8:10:56 PM , Rating: 2
Did you even glance at that article? It's saying that someone else, who co-founded a different corporation, is suing Apple over the iPhone and that it was their backup plan from the get-go.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By retrospooty on 6/10/2013 11:14:34 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry, in a hurry at the time and worded it badly.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By EnzoFX on 6/10/2013 5:23:34 PM , Rating: 2
Uhm what,

The icons are no worse than they are. Sadly, they are still vastly better than what's found on WinPhone or Android. Sad those other platforms can't enforce icons that at least match.

Emulating MS or Android? Some people must have no eye for design. They see big thin fonts, and the only association they can make is WinPhone or something. Win stylistically has very little to offer. I'm not saying its bad, it's actually good, but it's simple. The only way they're emulating MS is if MS invented the style of solid colors and big thin fonts.... Isn't this one of those sites that likes to bash companies for NOT inventing something...

Don't even get me started on Android. It's flat, the core apps are modern, but that's it. Everything else about it is lacking in terms of eye candy, which is what we're talking about here.

The bigger point here is that the Smartphone has been done. It's not going to change much. Who's expecting big changes, when we still have rectangles with touch screens. Obviously you'll still have icons. The only thing they can do is more gestures, until there's a newer and better way to interact with mobile computing devices. What the Smartphone has to gain right now is more power for more robust apps.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By rubbahbandman on 6/10/13, Rating: 0
RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By EnzoFX on 6/10/2013 6:58:06 PM , Rating: 2
People keep saying they're behind in graphical design. I have yet to see an Android or Win phone that didn't have glaring inconsistencies, or outdated/truly ugly icons. This is a natural evolution, not a big leap, but still painfully forward.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By Cheesew1z69 on 6/11/2013 12:58:32 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I have yet to see an Android or Win phone
Obviously...


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By michael2k on 6/11/2013 2:59:19 AM , Rating: 2
It occurs to me that Apple 'lost a year' as internal priorities and teams got reorganized after Steve Jobs, then Forstall, left.

iOS 6, other than Maps, was largely very minor updates. The iPad 3 was, as well, and the iPad mini was a recycling of the iPad 2. Most of their energy was on the iPhone 5 and responding to the Maps fiasco.

iOS 7, OS X 10, and the new Mac Pro all scream Ives, yet at the same time recall aspects of Jobs (he would have loved the cylinder, the frosted glass and parallax, the layers).

In any case, I'm looking forward to seeing if they release a 4K Cinema display in black aluminum to match the new Mac Pro.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By marvdmartian on 6/11/2013 7:45:43 AM , Rating: 3
Likely, they'll sue Google for making Android look so much like the new iOS, claiming that they had the idea for the swipe and looks of the icons long before this, they just hadn't used them yet.

Sadly, they might even find a sympathetic jury, if the case ends up in court anywhere around Cupertino.


RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By xaders on 6/11/2013 8:30:41 PM , Rating: 2
So I guess its ok when iOS copies someone else and they call it brand new and innovative. also, sue them for copyright lawsuit.


I like the multitask task switcher...
By retrospooty on 6/10/2013 4:06:00 PM , Rating: 3
"Control Center allows you to swipe up from the bottom of the screen to quickly access Wi-Fi/Bluetooth/Screen brightness etc. This is "quick access" functionality that Android users have experienced for years. Apple has also vastly improved multitasking that interestingly looks a bit like what we've already seen with webOS."

OK, so control center is a total copy of Android and the task switcher is a copy of WebOS, but that is a fantastic way to do it. I wish everyone would copy that method.




RE: I like the multitask task switcher...
By quiksilvr on 6/10/2013 4:19:49 PM , Rating: 2
How? The control center should just be a bar along the top of the notification center which you can then tap to expand. That way I can switch to WiFi and look at notifications at the same time without having to swipe to two different locations. It's less efficient.


RE: I like the multitask task switcher...
By retrospooty on 6/10/2013 4:22:46 PM , Rating: 2
"How? The control center should just be a bar along the top of the notification center which you can then tap to expand. That way I can switch to WiFi and look at notifications at the same time without having to swipe to two different locations. It's less efficient."

Not as good as Android, but better than it was on IOS 1-6. It's at least an improvement.


RE: I like the multitask task switcher...
By cyberguyz on 6/10/2013 5:50:07 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed.

That it took Apple 6 releases to pull their heads out of their collective butts and finally figure out something Android was doing almost since day one was actually useful.

Wow. Just... wow.

Hope Google made their patents fuzzy enough to cover this (apple sliding the toggles up from the bottom rather than down from the top).


RE: I like the multitask task switcher...
By Fleeb on 6/10/2013 9:46:25 PM , Rating: 2
Not that they just realized it. It's more of the fact that they don't want that image of "copying" the competition at the same time if they did, they wanted to say, "it's not about who did it first, but who did it better".

Problem is, it is not really better over the competition.


By retrospooty on 6/10/2013 11:18:08 PM , Rating: 2
Yup... At least with the iPhone, the greatly improved o the tech they copied. With notifications and the UI, its sort of an obvious copy, but not as good as either original.

It will be interesting to see how the task switching UI they copied works in real usage... Will Apple make it be better than the tech they copied, worse than the tech they copied, or equal to the tech they copied?


RE: I like the multitask task switcher...
By EnzoFX on 6/10/2013 5:30:39 PM , Rating: 2
Uh, maybe people don't want to put together two very different types of tasks. Checking if you missed a call, vs. changing brightness or something.

Secondly is it really together? On my Android tablet, if there's a notification, I have to tap once to bring it up, and another time if I want to go into the control stuff. 2 taps, versus 1 swipe in a different direction. It's just a different approach.


By Solandri on 6/10/2013 6:29:06 PM , Rating: 2
Not sure how it is in iOS, but I had an Android launcher which had a bottom swipe function. Top swipe works because the top space is dedicated to the notification bar. Outside of full-screen apps (mostly games), the only reason you'll ever touch the top is to do a top swipe to open the notification pane.

The bottom swipe was problematic because lots of icons and other functionality resides at the bottom. I had to turn bottom swipe off because if I tried to swipe with a non-greasy finger and my finger paused, it would do something like launch an app instead.


RE: I like the multitask task switcher...
By TakinYourPoints on 6/10/2013 4:23:58 PM , Rating: 4
You beat me to it. One of the best things about it is the WebOS style multitasking switcher, still the best in any mobile OS.

Other than that, some good stuff, some bad. The iconography stinks (there is little consistency to line thickness or glyph composition, something Microsoft nailed with WP8), Siri still needs an API and hooks for third party applications, but overall there's a lot of good stuff with the new core apps. Lots of good API changes too (task scheduling, etc).

Also, don't get fired from Apple like Scott Forstall did, otherwise they spend an entire conference making snarky comments about you. :)

"We ran out of green felt"

http://i.imgur.com/iHmOMfQ.jpg


By Brandon Hill (blog) on 6/10/2013 4:33:04 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
"We ran out of green felt"

http://i.imgur.com/iHmOMfQ.jpg


LMAO!


By Spuke on 6/10/2013 6:38:13 PM , Rating: 2
OMG LMAO!!!


By retrospooty on 6/10/2013 11:18:46 PM , Rating: 2
snick snick... N1 ;)


By kamiller422 on 6/10/2013 9:22:03 PM , Rating: 2
The Control Center is a mess. 50% of it I've seen is a music player. Only 25% of it is actual settings, which are in the form of toggles and a brightness slider. (I guess the answer to if the toggles are configurable is a resounding Apple "No.") No auto checkbox for brightness? No auto brightness? The remaining space is just application shortcuts. And, the AirDrop and AirPlay buttons seem oddly placed.


WWDC 2013 = Apple are back :)
By Tony Swash on 6/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: WWDC 2013 = Apple are back :)
By karimtemple on 6/11/2013 10:39:08 AM , Rating: 2
*is. Apple is one company.

lol, j/k; Here's my real comment: Quit with the fanboy stuff. It's pointless and annoying.

To be fair, all the Apple-hate and "oh boy they didn't reinvent the way everyone does everything a second time which means they're dead" is also pointless and annoying, but still.

Android also won't be blowing any minds any time soon. People keep saying "Apple is playing catch-up," which is true, but it's also true that the first gold medal at the Catch-Up Olympics went to Android in Fall 2011.

At the end of the day, Apple able to update in a competent way and maintain relevance and that's good for them. It isn't mind-blowing anymore because the market has reached maturation; it is now unreasonable to expect innovation.

It's probably also unreasonable to expect reasonable debate on the Internet, lol. I'm such a fool.


By half_duplex on 6/11/2013 11:20:49 AM , Rating: 1
LOL Great closing line. This is the internet, what the f*** were you thinking!!!

The didn't reinvent the way everyone does everything is a very good point. The incremental advances that Apple adheres to is something lost on most Android users, or they just do not care, which is their prerogative.

I prefer things not be fixed if they are not broken personally.

I'd compare today's Apple to the Asian automakers of the 80's and 90's. Sticking to what works, incremental improvement, regression testing resulting in polished reliability.

Android is quite the opposite, they're more like the US automakers of the 90's and 2000's. With every release, a revolution. Similar to the US automakers of the last 15-20 years.


RE: WWDC 2013 = Apple are back :)
By Tony Swash on 6/11/13, Rating: 0
By retrospooty on 6/11/2013 12:24:44 PM , Rating: 2
"Why? Honest question. Why can one not one express enthusiasm and excitement for anything, why does the tone always have to be so gloomy and nit picking?"

I believe he is referring to the irritating fact that your "enthusiasm and "excitement" is 100% Apple Apple Apple and your "gloomy and nit picking" is for anyone that competes with Apple.

duh.

To create a userid and post on behalf of a company is a loser trait. You get the fanboy label because you sow the seeds of fanboyism and if anyone ever deserved that label, it is you... Why dont you try to gain some perspective instead of towing the company line for a change?


RE: WWDC 2013 = Apple are back :)
By Shadowself on 6/11/2013 11:59:44 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Actually they never went away but after Jobs died the arena for Apple FUD was greatly enlarged and the time it took for the post Jobs re-org to produce results just let the silly FUD congeal into a sort of bovine consensus: Apple has lost it's mojo. said the clueless and the iPhobic.
Apple did seem to stagnate with no significant upgrades or announcements in over nine months.

quote:
Not from what I saw yesterday.
Then you saw a different keynote than I did.

quote:
The best thing about yesterday was how happy, relaxed and confident Apple's top team players all looked, people on top of their game in a company firing on all cylinders.
I truly don't care if Apple's senior execs are happy or not. I want great products. If they are working their asses off and are a bit stressed because of it in order to deliver great products, I don't care one bit. Stating this was "the best thing" about yesterday's keynote clearly points out that you missed the point.

quote:
iOS 7 looks great and will be on most iOS devices in a very short time frame (unlike the snails pace of Android OS upgrades in the insipid Android ecosystem) and looks like a new platform to build on for years ahead.
Yes, iOS gets distributed and installed much faster and pervasively than Android. Blame the carriers and phone developers for that, not Google. (Well, blame Google a little because they gave the carriers and phone developers so much control.) Is iOS 7 a significant improvement over iOS 6? Absolutely Is it *significantly* better than the most recent versions of Android and Windows Phone? I don't think so. What I was expecting was something as big a consolidated leap over iOS 6 as the first iPhone OS was over the pre-iPhone OSes. We didn't get it no matter what Apple execs said yesterday.

quote:
Maverick looked great, can't wait to install it.
Yes, Apple finally pulled OS X up to date (for just one example, they claim it will support OpenGL 4, but they didn't say which 4.x it will be!). I think the jury is still out on Mavericks.

quote:
The Mac Pro looks simply fantastic, the sort of thing only Apple could produce out of a hat at a conference focussed primarily on software.
As a true workstation class machine, the new Mac Pro is limited. Yes, if rumors are true, out of the box the top of the line, build-to-order machine will be a screamer. However (and that's a HUGE "HOWEVER") it is limited in upgrade-ability. That is the nature of a true workstation. You buy the best unit you can afford, then over the course of the next 2-3 years you systematically upgrade the major components as they become available. Just as one example of this, I find it extremely unlikely Apple will support third party graphics cards upgrades -- if they ever do even get made for this custom form factor!

quote:
iRadio will cement and extend Apple's domination of music and further cement the superiority of Apple's digital content ecosystem.
Apple's iRadio is just a defensive move. Nothing more. To say otherwise is delusional.

quote:
Eddie Cue (who sits on the board at Ferrari BTW) showed how the iOS domination of the auto business will deepen.
This is one of the things that caught my attention. I kept noticing the use of the phrase "eyes free". If Apple can truly get that level of integration between the car's built in systems (including the built in screens) and Siri and the various functions between the "iDevices" and the car, then this will be a MAJOR step forward. "Eyes free" is a big deal to me. I see way too many people driving down the road looking at their devices rather than the road and other cars! We'll just have to see how this turns out.

quote:
iCloud services continue to expand and will do so for years to come. iWork on the web looked fantastic, who really needs Office anymore?
Cloud based services -- I don't care whose you mention -- are not there yet. And with the latest security announcements, I suspect they won't be for years to come, if ever.

quote:
There will be a range of new hardware introduced later this year and I expect some exciting new stuff.
Other than the new "Mac Pro", what, specifically, do you anticipate? The long, long, long, long, long rumored iTV? The iWatch? And the "Mac Pro" will come "later this year". With Intel already saying that the E series Ivy Bridge chips will be delayed, just when do you *really* expect it to ship in quantity? November? December?

quote:
Google are compelled by simple business logic to ensure that all their services run, and run well, on iOS so they can't use Android exclusivity as a lever against iOS, and anyway Google are losing interest in developing Android as platform.
I think you need to do some checking. Not all Google Android apps run on iOS. Yes, Android is fragmented, but there are more Android devices out there than iOS devices. That's just fact. Yes, Google would be smart to keep its best apps on iOS just from a "mind share" position. But saying that Google must have thier apps on iOS is just not realistic.

And your comment about Google losing interest in Android? Do you have *anything* concrete to back that up? Or is it just wishful thinking on your part?

quote:
iOS continues to be the most used platform by far with the healthiest commercial ecosystem.
At least at the moment.

quote:
Yesterday just reminded me how fun it is being an Apple fan :)
Good for you. I found it to be interesting. On most fronts Apple moved things forward. Was anything a true, "Wow! I have to check that out. I think I might get that!" kind of announcement? Absolutely not.


By karimtemple on 6/11/2013 1:34:26 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
What I was expecting was something as big a consolidated leap over iOS 6 as the first iPhone OS was over the pre-iPhone OSes.
I've found your mistake.


RE: WWDC 2013 = Apple are back :)
By Tony Swash on 6/11/13, Rating: 0
By retrospooty on 6/11/2013 10:57:12 PM , Rating: 2
Look... Tony just happened to come down on Apples side on every single bullet point. Amazing... On wait, that is every day. I keep forgetting your parents never taught you to think for yourself. Hell even Apple didn't mean that you should be a mindless zombie with their "think different" slogan. It was meant to mean think for yourself. LOLpathetic.


RE: WWDC 2013 = Apple are back :)
By magmaviper on 6/13/2013 11:31:28 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
iWork on the web looked fantastic, who really needs Office anymore?


Anyone and everyone that has a real job.


By magmaviper on 6/13/2013 11:36:35 AM , Rating: 2
Just wanted to add. I think the new iOS7 looks great. I recently switched from an iPhone4S to a Galaxy Note 2 and I have to say, I love the phone and the screen size, but I hate Android.

To be more exact I hate the Play Store. So many copycat apps and junk in the app store, it really is quite annoying.


Meh
By mritter1981 on 6/11/2013 3:34:52 AM , Rating: 2
Apple continues to roll out no real updates (they've gone stale). Granted AT&T/Verizon/T-Mob will just cripple any incremental patches Apple introduces anyway, just like they do with Android. There is no fragmentation, manufacturers are being blamed for the carrier.




RE: Meh
By half_duplex on 6/11/2013 11:23:56 AM , Rating: 2
That isn't true. iOS never has problems rolling out their updates.

On the other hand, I have an HTC One, arguably the flagship Android phone, and I do not know when I will get the latest Android, if ever.

Android devices seem to geared towards a specific Android build. Not much backwards compatibility.

iOS7 though looks to be available for iPhone 4 which is great.


RE: Meh
By mritter1981 on 6/12/2013 9:24:53 AM , Rating: 2
Unfortunately Google releases updates/patches very frequently (same with M$). The Manufacturers and teleco are "ensuring compatibility" with their massive bloatware. So basically that new vulnerability that was found, expect the carrier to roll out the patch: On the second tuesday of next week. Android has no real issue as to backwards compatibility, it's teleco's that cause 75% of the issues. Stupidity takes up 24.9% (ie: the PEBKAC error). iOS, hmm let me spend 5x the amount I want to just to have a cellular device by a fruity company that I could care less for. I don't use iGarbage anything, and never will. Overrated, Overpriced, Underperforming crap, now without any Originality. Friggin lemmings.


Typo
By Gondor on 6/10/2013 4:59:23 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
If your familiar


"You are" ... familiar with proof-reading that is ?




By greenchinesepuck on 6/10/2013 4:33:46 PM , Rating: 2
By including Bing as default Siri web search back end. Go Ballmer go!




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By flashback_rtk on 6/13/2013 10:16:19 AM , Rating: 2
They could have just added the new features and that's it. Even though I am not an Apple fan iOS have always looked cleaner than Android to me.




RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By amelia321 on 6/10/13, Rating: -1
RE: "Steve Wouldn't Do That"
By cyberguyz on 6/10/2013 5:54:11 PM , Rating: 1
L freaking O.L.

This guy's cheap-ass spambot software is poor it couldn't even link this to the right thread.

Hep spammer. I would demand my money back if I were you. You paid way too much for this software.


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