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Leaked for months, Apple's iPhone 5 is officially announced

There has been a steady stream of leaks concerning Apple's next generation iPhone over the past few months. Pictures of the device's exterior, its new 4" screen, relocated headphone jack, and smaller dock connector have been prominently displayed for all to see.
 
Now, however, Apple is ready to show the world the first "official" look at the iPhone 5 (Apple has stuck with the “iPhone 5” name despite the fact that this is the sixth generation iPhone). As expected, the phone comes packing a 4” 16:9 display with a resolution of 640x1136 (326 ppi). The display also uses “in-cell” technology that puts the capacitive touch sensors directly onto the LCD, allowing for a 30% thinner display. The display also has 44% more color saturation than the iPhone 4S.
 
The increase in screen real estate means that the iPhone 5 now has six rows of home screen icons (including the dock) versus five rows on all previous iPhone models. Naturally, all of Apple’s native software applications (Safari, Mail, Calendar, etc.) have been updated to take advantage of 4” display.

 
The phone itself is made entirely of glass and aluminum and is 20% lighter than before at just 112 grams. The 7.6mm iPhone 5 is also 18% thinner than the previous iPhone 4S.
 
As expected, Apple has finally added an LTE modem to the iPhone. Apple is quite late to the LTE smartphone game, as Android phones have been packing the technology for well over a year. The single-chip solution also includes support for EDGE, GPRS, EV-DO, HSPA, HSPA+, and DC-HSDPA. In the U.S., this means that the iPhone 5 will work on AT&T, Verizon Wireless, and Sprint networks. Once again, T-Mobile is left out of the loop.

The iPhone 5 also packs a new Wi-Fi radio which supports 2.4GHz/5GHz 802.11n (no 802.11ac this time around). Apple says that it supports speeds up to 150Mbps.

However, the heart of the iPhone 5 comes from the new A6 processor. Apple didn't get into specifics of how many cores or how fast the cores run, but it says that it has a twice the CPU performance and twice the graphics performance of the iPhone 4S. In addition, the actual A6 chip is 22% smaller than the A5.

When it comes to battery life, the iPhone 5 is rated at 8 hours of 3G/LTE talk time/browsing, 10 hours of Wi-Fi browsing, 10 hours of video, 40 hours of music, and 225 hours standby. Speaking of talk time, the iPhone 5 now includes 3 microphones and a noise-cancelling earpiece. The speakers have also been redesigned.
 


The rear camera has been rebranded "iSight" and is still 8MP. However, it now features backside illumination, a hybrid IR filter, five-element lens, f/2.4 aperture, spatial noise reduction, and dynamic low-light mode. The iSight camera also now includes a panorama mode, a feature that's been available in iOS apps like Photosynth for quite some time. You can also now take photos while shooting videos.

The FaceTime camera has also received an "HD" upgrade and can shoot in 720p. It also features backside illumination and facial recognition. 

One of the other big changes to come to the iPhone 5 is a redesigned “Lighting” dock connector (get it; Thunderbolt, Lightning **golf clap**). The resultant cable used is 80% smaller, reversible, and features an 8-pin design. For those that have many accessories with a 30-pin dock connector, Apple will sell an adapter.

The iPhone 5 also comes preloaded with iOS 6, which was first announced back in June. IOS 6 will land on Sept. 19.

The iPhone 5 is priced at $199 for the 16GB model, $299 for the 32GB model, and $399 for the 64GB model – all prices are with a two-year contract. As with previous iPhone versions, the iPhone 5 will be available in black and white.

Pre-orders for the iPhone 5 will start on Sept. 14 and the phone will ship/launch on Sept. 21.


In other iPhone news, the 8GB iPhone 4 has now moved down to occupy the "free on contract" spot previously held by the iPhone 3GS. Likewise, the 16GB iPhone 4S now holds the "$99 on contract" position in the iPhone lineup.

Source: Apple



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Oy boy...
By retrospooty on 9/12/2012 1:29:56 PM , Rating: 5
Just like I thought. The 2 biggest features are 4 inch screen and 4G. They have caught up to 2 years ago. Other than that faster CPU and CPU looks good. Same old boring OS though. Nothing interesting. Still glad I went with Samsung GS3.




RE: Oy boy...
By EnzoFX on 9/12/12, Rating: -1
RE: Oy boy...
By retrospooty on 9/12/2012 1:52:44 PM , Rating: 2
Dual core yes, quad no, maybe a little... GPU for sure. It's defintely fast as hell. Props.

I like the 4 inch screen too, its better, just not enough. I would REALLY love to see an iPhone 6 with a 4.5+ inch screen and liquid metal. That would be a game changer for me.


RE: Oy boy...
By GotThumbs on 9/12/2012 3:03:09 PM , Rating: 2
That comes out next month. :->

Best Wishes,


RE: Oy boy...
By Solandri on 9/13/2012 5:14:35 AM , Rating: 2
Folks, for all intents and purposes, the screen isn't any bigger.

1136x640 @ 4" = 326.0 dpi
960x640 @ 3.5" = 329.7 dpi

So basically the middle 960x640 portion of the screen is the same size as the previous iPhone. All they've done is added 176 pixels to the top/bottom to change the aspect ratio. If you thought text/pics/web pages displayed on the 3.5" screen on previous iPhones was too small, this isn't going to help you.


RE: Oy boy...
By Shadowself on 9/12/2012 3:23:12 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, one of the few things I really like about the iPhone series is that it's a functional smartphone with many of the needed bells and whistles while maintaining its small size.

I like to be able to quickly stash my phone in a shirt pocket, have it easily fit and not weight that pocket down. (I usually keep my phone in my pants pocket, but during meetings it's very often easier to stash my phone temporarily in my shirt pocket for easy retrieval.) A 5" phone is just not conducive to the same ease of placement.


RE: Oy boy...
By NellyFromMA on 9/12/2012 4:43:31 PM , Rating: 2
I can personally say that while I would never put my phone in my shirt pocket, I regularly put my S3 in my pants pocket (clean thoughts!) and it actually feels less intrusive than my old substantially smaller Incredible.

4.8 sounds like a lot, but I'd actually consider a little larger even still...

Try it out.


RE: Oy boy...
By retrospooty on 9/12/2012 5:57:33 PM , Rating: 2
Yup. The small negative of having a larger phone is paid back to you 10x in screen glory. I look back at my old Droid 3 with a 4 inch screen and just cant stand it now.


RE: Oy boy...
By Jeffk464 on 9/12/2012 6:41:07 PM , Rating: 2
That was my early thought with my galaxy nexus, yeah I could go for an even bigger screen.


RE: Oy boy...
By Roffles on 9/12/2012 7:14:45 PM , Rating: 2
I agree. I might take 5 inches if it gets just a bit thinner and lighter to compensate. For me, the gs3 is less intrusive than my old 4.3" Droid Bionic and my smaller but much heavier OG Moto Droid. It goes right in my pant pocket without any complaint and I usually do not notice it. I guess the best way to describe it is that it comfortably forms itself against my quadriceps.

I'm looking forward to next years gs3 that is perhaps 14g lighter and 1.5mm thinner with Super AMOLED+ and quad core A15. I'm sure it'll happen and more.


RE: Oy boy...
By Samus on 9/12/2012 5:39:48 PM , Rating: 3
Still made out of glass, requiring you to add a bulky case so it doesn't shatter on first drop. It's funny how the original iPhone from 2007 is still the sturdiest of them all.


RE: Oy boy...
By Jeffk464 on 9/12/2012 6:39:38 PM , Rating: 2
A 5" phone is just not conducive to the same ease of placement.

I don't begrudge you that, but iphone doesn't feel the need to give you the choice of screen size. The fact is lots of people want a big screen.


RE: Oy boy...
By excrucio on 9/12/2012 2:00:36 PM , Rating: 2
Perhaps, but now forward a year. Oh Hey Iphone 5... oh hey Samsung iwannarapeyourface phone. Yup... There are way more builds for Android. This will only change when Apples starts designing a new phone for every year, like their Macbooks. But they won't. So You'll have to deal with inferior hardware.


RE: Oy boy...
By EnzoFX on 9/12/2012 2:08:07 PM , Rating: 2
Uhm, They most certainly do not update their Macbooks every year. If you mean in terms of the cpu/graphics, then they do as well with the S series iPhone.


RE: Oy boy...
By Chadder007 on 9/12/2012 4:47:50 PM , Rating: 2
Samsung should file for a design patent in phone screens larger than 4 inches.


RE: Oy boy...
By geddarkstorm on 9/12/12, Rating: 0
RE: Oy boy...
By BioHazardous on 9/12/2012 3:00:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
We've had dual core A15 cpu's in android phones for awhile now, with quadcore coming. This iPhone 5 is only dual core.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krait_(CPU)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A15_MPCore

Forgive me if I'm confused. What exactly has A15 CPUs today or 'for awhile now'? To the best of my knowledge, nothing does and Apple will be the first.


RE: Oy boy...
By Roffles on 9/12/2012 7:51:19 PM , Rating: 2
We're obviuosly getting into semantics here:

A lot of people think the S4 Krait MSM8960 making the rounds in all the US Android phones is an A15. In Qualcomm's own words, it is "loosely based on ARM’s A15 core". One could make the argument for Krait being the first A15 cpu to market based on this.
http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/devices/finder?...

As I said, we're getting into semantics. All I know is the MSM8960 is a bloody fast processor compared to dual-core A9's that came before it and it puts up a good fight (getting close to and sometimes besting depending on the benchmark type) against quad-core A9's. If Apple matches or exceeds the performance of dual-core Krait, you won't have any unhappy iPhone5 owners.


RE: Oy boy...
By geddarkstorm on 9/13/2012 3:12:24 PM , Rating: 2
As Roffles points out, the Krait is from the A15 license. It's modified somewhat by Qualcomm, but that's a A15 derivative. That's why it's been smoking all the previous phones based on the A9, like the old Snapdragon (an A9 derivative like Krait is an A15), and Tegra 3. A15 and it's class are killer processors, but the iPhone 5 is not the first phone to be of that generation; and that generation of processor has been out for a few months now.


RE: Oy boy...
By Sunrise089 on 9/12/2012 3:03:26 PM , Rating: 4
Please name some of these A15 android phones. I await anxiously...


RE: Oy boy...
By geddarkstorm on 9/13/2012 3:09:16 PM , Rating: 2
Any Qualcomm S4 Krait phones are based on A15. They are a little modified, but that's their lineage.


RE: Oy boy...
By anactoraaron on 9/12/2012 3:49:41 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
A6 is quad core A15's.


And this piece of gross misinformation gets rated up??? Fanboys must be out in full force today...

BTW confirmed to have dual core A15's. It will still be fast... but when you're wrong, you're wrong. You don't get rated up for it.


RE: Oy boy...
By BioHazardous on 9/12/2012 3:59:06 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
And this piece of gross misinformation gets rated up

A lot of that around here. For a tech site, people don't really seem to know much about tech. It seems to be more about I hate Apple or I hate Android.

While I don't care for Apple, I love to see what they're doing with their new products. Mainly because it pushes their competitors to 1-up them.

(General Statement, not directed at anybody specifically) Complain all you want about phones being outdated 3 months after they're released; I for one love the pace at which cell phone technology is advancing and spreading to other devices/applications. If they only updated this stuff every 2-3 years to keep people feeling good about owning the best piece of technology available.. then we'd only today be excited about technology that's now 4 years old..

Keep it coming. A15 architecture FTW; will hopefully force everybody else to get their A15 CPUs out sooner.


RE: Oy boy...
By NellyFromMA on 9/12/2012 4:48:11 PM , Rating: 2
I feel as if I loved the pace PC tech used to evolve at, and that it was equal to or greater than the pace the mobile sector has been moving at.

The BIG difference is: you can't upgrade components in your phone. Couple that with the fact you are more oftehn than not comitted to your phone for 2-ish years and its kind of annoying in it's own way.

I'm not advocating the advances slow down in any way because thats just bad for a million reasons... I just can't seriously look at a phone or tablet as a true replacement for a PC if the device itself struggles to remain relevant between cycles and I'm committed to a carrier for subsidizing my outdated non upgradable device.

Thank god I got the S3 for 550 and went pre-paid. Best decision ever. Only solves half the problem though... Oh well, its new for now.


RE: Oy boy...
By Cheesew1z69 on 9/13/2012 1:15:19 PM , Rating: 2
I could be wrong but...

4x ARM Cortex-A9 MPcore - iphone 5 according to this link :

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a60000&c=apple...

Is it A15 or no?


RE: Oy boy...
By Cheesew1z69 on 9/13/2012 7:06:08 PM , Rating: 2
Looks like the page was updated...


RE: Oy boy...
By Apone on 9/12/2012 3:53:55 PM , Rating: 1
@ EnzoFX

Oh please, I know countless iSheep who tout specs like they know what they're talking about but when said specs are questioned and scrutinized, they have nothing to fall back on except that "it's Apple".


RE: Oy boy...
By Jeffk464 on 9/12/2012 6:36:59 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, and if you are doing something that uses that much processor that could be a big deal. But, I still think qualcomm's krait S4 is the best chip option right now, its fast, has built in LTE, and has low power consumption.


RE: Oy boy...
By Cheesew1z69 on 9/12/2012 7:45:19 PM , Rating: 2
4x ARM Cortex-A9 MPcore

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a60000&c=apple...

Is it A15 or no?


RE: Oy boy...
By Nortel on 9/12/12, Rating: -1
RE: Oy boy...
By retrospooty on 9/12/2012 1:55:58 PM , Rating: 4
"have fun with your plastic GS3"

I do...

Android advantages
- Larger Screens
- Higher resolution screens
- Better OS
- Better UI
- Prettier OS
- Flexibility in OS (Tons of Custom ROM's, etc)
- Flexibility in hardware (qwerty models, removable batteries, larger models, smaller models, high end models, mid range models, cheap models)
- Micro SD card
- Micro USB (Like every other phone made by every other manufacturer on planet Earth for hte past for years, except of course, Apple)
- Have I mentioned the screens? You know the part you look at all day every day. Its kind of important.
- Plug and play as a flash drive to copy files (FFS Apple, its 2012, why cant you plug in an iPhone to any PC and copy files directly to it?)


RE: Oy boy...
By Flunk on 9/12/2012 1:59:34 PM , Rating: 2
You can't argue things like "better OS" that's subjective.


RE: Oy boy...
By retrospooty on 9/12/2012 2:02:10 PM , Rating: 2
That is my list of Android advantages. OS can be subjective, to me Android 4.1 is miles above IOS6. Not to say that IOS7 may rock. Well have to wait another year to see.


RE: Oy boy...
By xti on 9/12/12, Rating: 0
RE: Oy boy...
By retrospooty on 9/12/2012 2:18:18 PM , Rating: 2
That isnt what I said. I said it was subjective and to me Android is way better.

I cant wait to see what the next 2 years brings on Android, IOS and WinMobile.


RE: Oy boy...
By Pirks on 9/12/2012 3:30:50 PM , Rating: 3
And QNX ya lamo troll :P hehehe


RE: Oy boy...
By Nortel on 9/12/12, Rating: 0
RE: Oy boy...
By retrospooty on 9/12/2012 2:07:02 PM , Rating: 2
Ya, the iPhone is nice. Like I said on the other post, I would REALLY love to see a larger screen iPhone6 (like 4.5 or higher) with the liquid metal casing. that would make me switch in a heartbeat. Today though, not enough.


RE: Oy boy...
By elleehswon on 9/12/2012 2:35:32 PM , Rating: 2
so guys, when was the last time a 48 gigs of data cost you 200 bucks?

lets see....
The last time 48 gigs of data cost you 200 bucks was in 2003. Good job apple! Today's technology at 2003's prices!!

lets look at this from their price points,

16 gig = $200
32 gig = $300
64 gig = $400

lets say that its comparable to a 64 gig micro sd card...well, those cost about $70USD....

lets say you're comparing that extra 48 gigs of storage to that of a hard drive.....48 gigs of disk @ $0.10/gig is ....$4.80 usd. good job, apple, good job on you.

but apple, why is an extra 48 gigs of storage costing the owner 200 dollars? because F^?$ the customer, that's why.


RE: Oy boy...
By Nortel on 9/12/2012 2:41:56 PM , Rating: 1
Apple doesn't make as much money on the 16gb model as they do on the 32gb or 64gb models. I don't really understand your point... Car companies offer extra horsepower engines for thousands of dollars more and nobody complains but Apple charges an extra $100 to double the capacity and all of a sudden people are throwing a fit.


RE: Oy boy...
By elleehswon on 9/12/2012 3:31:42 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Car companies offer extra horsepower engines for thousands of dollars more and nobody complains but Apple charges an extra $100 to double the capacity and all of a sudden people are throwing a fit.


people just don't buy those models nearly as much either. it's only the entusiasts/those that can afford the extra hp but don't want to do it themselves. also, in most cases, you can't just turn up a dial and give a car more HP without ruining the survivability of the internals(crank, mains, rods, pistons, valve springs, valve guides, rocker arms(where applicable), head bolts..and then you get to the survivability of the clutch, diffs, axles(cv), struts, etc.)

all that factors into the cost.


RE: Oy boy...
By FITCamaro on 9/12/2012 4:09:23 PM , Rating: 3
These days they're giving away the larger motor as a free upgrade.


RE: Oy boy...
By Solandri on 9/13/2012 4:53:00 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I don't really understand your point... Car companies offer extra horsepower engines for thousands of dollars more and nobody complains but Apple charges an extra $100 to double the capacity and all of a sudden people are throwing a fit.

Car engines aren't user-upgradable. Add a microSD or SD slot and a user can easily add 32 GB (64 GB if you have SDXC) for close to $0.50/GB.

A better analogy would be if a car company deliberately used a non-standard sized radio to prevent users from upgrading it with an aftermarket radio, then charged an extra $100 for a CD player, an extra $200 for a CD player + 3.5mm MP3 player input jack. You bet people would throw a fit.


RE: Oy boy...
By anactoraaron on 9/12/2012 2:46:57 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
because F^?$ the customer, that's why.


Don't know why but all I can think of is Dave Chapelle's parody of Popcopy here...

quote:
Cause f--- 'em, that's why!

quote:
I AM THE MANAGER


:P


RE: Oy boy...
By Cheesew1z69 on 9/12/2012 3:21:10 PM , Rating: 2

quote:
The last time 48 gigs of data cost you 200 bucks was in 2003.
ROFL! Keep dreaming...try about 5-10 times that cost in 2003.

And this is flash memory in phones, not desktop memory...


RE: Oy boy...
By elleehswon on 9/12/2012 3:26:11 PM , Rating: 2
http://www.mkomo.com/cost-per-gigabyte - used this guy for my data

also, i realize flash has a different cost model. ( i just couldn't find a chart for it :( )


RE: Oy boy...
By Solandri on 9/13/2012 5:02:58 AM , Rating: 2
I paid $100 for a 512 MB CF card for my camera in 2004, about $0.20/MB. And that was a helluva deal at the time. So 48 GB would have cost $9600.

http://www.forbes.com/2003/05/16/cx_ah_0516sf.html
Article from May 2003:
quote:
A study by research firm IDC found that flash cards sold for an average price of 45 cents per megabyte last year but could go as low as 10 cents a megabyte by 2006.


RE: Oy boy...
By AMDftw on 9/12/2012 2:04:53 PM , Rating: 1
can't disagree :)


RE: Oy boy...
By xti on 9/12/2012 2:13:20 PM , Rating: 1
hot women have iphone. thats not on your list.


RE: Oy boy...
By Jeffk464 on 9/12/2012 6:51:50 PM , Rating: 3
Yeah, because hot women usually aren't tech savvy. But they do pay lots of attention to trendy brand names.


RE: Oy boy...
By xti on 9/12/2012 7:36:07 PM , Rating: 2
that should be a feature then....


RE: Oy boy...
By TakinYourPoints on 9/12/2012 2:19:41 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Oy boy...
By retrospooty on 9/12/2012 2:47:40 PM , Rating: 1
RE: Oy boy...
By alpha754293 on 9/12/2012 2:30:46 PM , Rating: 2
Android disadvantages:

Poor native support for localization/non-English/non-Latin-based languages.

(Try handwriting Chinese on an Android phone without an app. Good luck with that.) ;o)


RE: Oy boy...
By TakinYourPoints on 9/12/12, Rating: 0
RE: Oy boy...
By elleehswon on 9/12/2012 4:08:58 PM , Rating: 2
security starts with the user.


RE: Oy boy...
By TakinYourPoints on 9/12/12, Rating: 0
RE: Oy boy...
By elleehswon on 9/12/2012 9:51:13 PM , Rating: 2
False Generalist Statement Is False.


RE: Oy boy...
By Jeffk464 on 9/12/2012 6:48:49 PM , Rating: 2
If you get the nexus labeled phones you are dealing with a pure android experience, so you aren't dependent on your carrier or manufacturer. Its more like apple experience that way.

P.S. you can get a pure android custom rom for almost every model.


RE: Oy boy...
By TakinYourPoints on 9/12/2012 7:56:12 PM , Rating: 2
Right, which falls into the tinkering category.

I personally wish all Android would go the way of Nexus, less control for carriers and more to Google. Not only would it make it better for the UI, it would also make for a more unified and appealing platform for developers.


RE: Oy boy...
By redpill on 9/12/12, Rating: 0
RE: Oy boy...
By retrospooty on 9/12/2012 2:50:29 PM , Rating: 2
I think we agree... You should get an iPhone. I want something better.


RE: Oy boy...
By xti on 9/12/2012 3:11:46 PM , Rating: 1
yes, a laptop would fit your needs. it might look funny when you hold it up to your head tho...


RE: Oy boy...
By retrospooty on 9/12/2012 3:48:42 PM , Rating: 2
Whatever. My GS3 fits perfectly in my hand, and in my pocket. The large screen is simply amazing. My only regret is that it isn't bigger. You buy what you like and I will buy what I like.


RE: Oy boy...
By Lord 666 on 9/12/2012 4:13:55 PM , Rating: 2
The GS3 is big, but even worse it is too sensitive with the controls.

Think the happy median is the Motorola Razr M I just got today. Metal frame in an iPhone size, but running Android.

Actually tried to talk the CFO out of getting the GS3 today and get the M instead.


RE: Oy boy...
By Reclaimer77 on 9/13/2012 5:04:08 PM , Rating: 2
Metal? I thought the Razr line was made from Kevlar? I'll have to Google on this now, damn you :)


RE: Oy boy...
By Lord 666 on 9/14/2012 7:43:58 PM , Rating: 2
Two days later and really liking the phone. Wish the battery was a little better, fully charged I can drain it in 9 hours strictly by business email/phone/internet use.

Coming from a Torch, the swatch of Kevlar on the back of the M almost feels the same.


RE: Oy boy...
By xti on 9/12/2012 4:23:09 PM , Rating: 2
you must be able to palm a watermelon then.


RE: Oy boy...
By retrospooty on 9/12/2012 5:14:50 PM , Rating: 2
I am 6 feet tall with normal hands. You act as if people buying these large screen phones are freekishly large. LOL

With android outselling IOS by 4 to 1 and the majority of Android phones 4.3 or larger, with the best selling ever at 4.8, I would say you are exaggerating just a BIT. That or you are a very small guy overcompendating (which actually explains alot of iPhone users). =)


RE: Oy boy...
By lawrance on 9/13/2012 4:18:20 PM , Rating: 2
My iPhone 4 broke last month when I took it apart. Static electricity likely fried a component on the logic board. I just sold that broken phone for $233. My new iPhone 5 will cost me $199. I'd like to see a two year old Android device beat that value. So much for "Apple cost's too much!" - It doesn't. How much did you pay for your Korean engineered plastic Samsung Galaxy S3? $600 unlocked, $200 w/2 year contract.

On to a couple of your bullet points:
- Large Screen - Here's a shocker, I don't want a larger screen. Especially wider.
- Higher Resolution Screens - You don't understand the importance of resolution and how it works or you wouldn't have made this statement. The pixel density of the new iPhone is 326ppi and your GS3 is 306. Yours uses and Super AMOLED and Apple uses IPS. IPS is superior in every way. Look it up and learn for yourself.
- Better OS - Oh really? Blanket statement much? Got virus'?
- Better UI - Completely disagree. I've been using Android 4.0 on an HTC one V for the last couple weeks (as a patch between iPhones) and I strongly disagree with your statement. Making a simple phone call is a pain compared to iOS. After all, it is phone, and calling should be a priority here.
- Prettier OS - ?
- Flexibility - If you say so. Custom screens are okay but not worth the other tradeoffs.
- Flexibility in hardware - Completely True.
- Micro SD card - True. I wish Apple would would include this option. That said, my HTC 4GB was maxed out by Android and I was FORCED to buy a card to even any apps or songs. At least with an iPHone you are left with plenty of space the day you buy it.
- Micro USB - yea, mounted on the SIDE of most phones making it a pain to "dock" into a charger or speakers.
- Plug and play flash drive - Apple doesn't need to plug in the iPhone to transfer files back and forth. So really, this is a -1 in your argument.

So here's my counter-list:
- Fragmentation - When choosing my Android patch phone, I was blown away at how many devices were sold with different versions of Android... 4.0, 2.3, 2.37, 2.2 - All on one network. What a pain to figure out what features work with which phone.
- Upgradeability - The great majority of carrier phones are never allowed to upgrade once you buy the phone. Apple provides free updates and clearly goes out their way to include many new features to past customers.
- Quality - It's hard to beat aluminum and Gorilla glass. My current HTC has aluminum and glass with a plastic cover on the back and it just doesn't exude the quality of Apple engineering.
- User Experience - Sorry but iOS is superior here. I've constantly got apps on my HTC that won't open or freeze up. Calls drop constantly. I get "network errors" if I leave my email open. Notifications would show up until I turn my phone on with the home key.
- Texting - My HTC will break up all messages into 3 or 4 short texts instead of allowing long text messages despite which settings are on and off. Half the messages show up with a space between e v e r y c h a r a c t e r. iOS has free texting between iOS devices.
- Syncing - If you're a Mac user, syncing on an Android device is a nightmare. Nothing works as it's supposed to. Calendar, contacts, music must all be done manually because even Googles own syncing software won't work properly. iOS on a Mac is flawless. And with iCloud, most things sync without ever connecting to your computer.
- Camera - Android has some fun features built into the OS. Nothing that can't be downloaded on iOS however. But the photo quality from my HTC and most other Android phones I've studied clearly lack in quality to Apple's iPHone. I'm anxious to see the iP5 camera results as I'm sure they'll be even better.
- Case / Speaker Choices - Android market completely fails here. Try going up to a local store and finding a case that fits your particular make and model device. Manufactures don't want to mess around with them because the turn cycle is too quick to invest money in. If you want a case, you better head online and get to pick one sight unseen. Speaker selection is a complete joke in the Android market. There are 100's of speaker systems built for iPhone's.
- Car integration - My iPhone can be accessed by my car stereo. Phone calls automatically mute the music on my car speakers so I can take my call and return to normal when my call ends. My Android won't even talk to my car stereo. I have to use Aux if I want to hear songs on my phone through my car speakers.
- App store - I have comfort in knowing every app on there, all 750,000 of them have been checked by Apple to insure they don't contain virus' or malware. Call it a walled garden if you must. Better than being on the other side of the wall in the slums.

When it comes to phones... to each his own. But if you haven't tried both, you're arguments hold little weight. Lastly, their's a lot more to a phone battle than simple specification comparison or "mine is bigger than yours" statement.


RE: Oy boy...
By Reclaimer77 on 9/13/2012 4:41:28 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
My iPhone 4 broke last month when I took it apart. Static electricity likely fried a component on the logic board.


You probably just held it wrong

ps, TLDNR


RE: Oy boy...
By Cheesew1z69 on 9/13/2012 4:55:40 PM , Rating: 2
And that some idiot paid 233 dollars for a BROKEN phone? Wow....


RE: Oy boy...
By Reclaimer77 on 9/13/2012 5:01:58 PM , Rating: 2
What he left out is that, obviously, that person didn't KNOW it was a phone he took apart and broke when he bought it.

Also why was he trying to take apart a perfectly good phone in the first place? He probably also left out the part where it broke FIRST, and he took it apart to try and "fix" it himself.

I love that these idiots use the "cheap plastic" argument. It's 2012, you would think by now people understood plastic was far far more durable and stronger than thin aluminum, but I guess that's a new concept?

I've never once seen an iPhone win a durability "drop test" against an Android phone. Yes, cheap plastic indeed. I wonder why everyone has to use a case with their iPhone? Hmmmm....

Seriously if the iPhone isn't "cheap", why have I never seen an iPhone owner with the confidence to use their phone without one of those cheap looking plastic wrap cases?


RE: Oy boy...
By lawrance on 9/13/2012 5:29:14 PM , Rating: 2
To set your mind at ease... The "Home" button was starting to stick so I took it upon myself to replace the button. While I had it apart I decided to drop a new battery in too. After all, the phone had 2+ years of heavy use.

When I listed it on eBay, I was completely upfront with it's condition and how it stopped working. You make a lot of assumptions about my character that I don't appreciate.

If you think plastic is in any way shape or form stronger than an anodized aluminum unibody, you're clearly misinformed. I didn't care for the glass back on the iPhone 4 so I'm not sad to see that gone in the iP5.

We protect our phones because A) We have more respect for your devices. B) We have thousands of cases to choose from and simply can't resist not picking one out.


RE: Oy boy...
By Cheesew1z69 on 9/13/2012 6:06:26 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I didn't care for the glass back on the iPhone 4 so I'm not sad to see that gone in the iP5.


quote:
Never before has this degree of fit and finish been applied to a phone. Take the glass inlays on the back of iPhone 5, for instance . During manufacturing, each iPhone 5 aluminum housing is photographed by two high-powered 29MP cameras. A machine then examines the images and compares them against 725 unique inlays to find the most precise match for every single iPhone.
Oops....

Also...this I find funny...

quote:
We could have taken the easy way out and designed something more reasonable and less remarkable. But we didn’t. If the technology didn’t exist, we invented it . If a component wasn’t small enough, we re-imagined it. If convention was standing in the way, we left it behind. The result is iPhone 5: the thinnest, lightest, fastest iPhone ever.
LOL...More like another COMPANY invented it... /me rolls eyes...

quote:
Apple engineers accomplished that by creating the first Retina display with integrated touch technology.
Yet another company created it...

http://www.apple.com/iphone/design/


RE: Oy boy...
By Reclaimer77 on 9/13/12, Rating: -1
RE: Oy boy...
By lawrance on 9/13/2012 5:33:48 PM , Rating: 1
I was expecting about $150 based on the other broken iPhones I saw so even I was surprised by the final price.

Here is my listing if you don't believe me...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1...


RE: Oy boy...
By Aloonatic on 9/13/2012 5:48:03 PM , Rating: 2
Dude, you do realise that all you have proven is just how stupid some people are when it comes to buying an iPhone. It's sad, but true, these people really do exist.

My brother usually does well out of these suckers too. He upgrades, gives his old iPhone to his wife and sells her old one, so it's a couple of generations (and 3 or 4 years) old, and there is still some sucker who is willing to pay a couple of hundred pounds for it. Amazing. But that really says more about the people buying these things than how good they actually are.

I'm also curious about this "HTC" that behaves so badly. My mother-in-law has a HTC wildfire, which is a pretty lowly, cheap piece of *&%^ but not even that thing performs as badly as the device that you seem to be describing, and I would not compare that to an iPhone anyway, as one is a lot (a lot, a looooootttt) cheaper than the other.

Anyway, it's great to see that you are happy with your iPhone tho. i am always amused by the technological equivalent of Stockholm syndrome that many people seem to have. It's not just seen with iPhone/Apple fan tho, you see it with games consoles too.


RE: Oy boy...
By AMDftw on 9/12/2012 2:09:01 PM , Rating: 1
Now if my company has us a iPhone 5, I would take one and use it never. Just forward all my calls to my Galaxy III.


RE: Oy boy...
By messele on 9/12/2012 3:08:56 PM , Rating: 3
You presumably use your S3 for all your grammar needs too.


RE: Oy boy...
By nocturne_81 on 9/12/2012 5:02:50 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
have fun with your plastic GS3

He is right.. the GS3 went a bit too far to not look at all like an iphone, relying too much on plastic for the chassis. Hold an iPhone in one hand and a GS3 in the other -- no matter which camp you are in, Apple does indeed make a higher-quality (feeling) phone.


RE: Oy boy...
By retrospooty on 9/12/2012 5:59:17 PM , Rating: 1
Yup, until you drop it. Your GS3 is still in perfect shape and your iPhone is broken. Agreed though, it does "feel" better. None of that matters in the face of a decent screen, and the iPhone is lacking. Larger now, but still lacking.


RE: Oy boy...
By TakinYourPoints on 9/12/2012 2:15:10 PM , Rating: 3
The only real UI innovation happening these days is with Windows Phone. Hardware specs, apps, and support are keeping me on iOS though.


RE: Oy boy...
By Unspoken Thought on 9/13/2012 3:05:41 AM , Rating: 4
Those are the same reasons I'm picking up a Nokia Lumia 920.


RE: Oy boy...
By Reclaimer77 on 9/13/2012 10:04:12 AM , Rating: 2
How is taking the app shortcut, making it huge, and making them "live tiles" (basically a concept ripped off of Androids widgets) some amazing UI "innovation"? Can someone explain this to me?

Windows Phone is ridiculous in my opinion. Those tiles are great, until you have 50+ things installed on your phone, at that point navigation becomes a huge pain in the ass. It's just a huge disjointed mishmash of gaudy colors, icons, shapes, and information. How ANYONE can prefer this is beyond my comprehension! I guess people think it looks "cool", but Android is still the king of ambient information with it's robust Widget framework.

Android and iOS gets it right in my opinion. I want to be able to actually SEE what's on my phone, navigate it quickly, and get stuff done.


RE: Oy boy...
By Unspoken Thought on 9/13/2012 5:29:58 PM , Rating: 2
It could easily be said that Widgets were taken from Window's Gadgets. That said, it is a nice concept that was implemented well by Microsoft on their phone. You said it yourself, tiles are great.

Navigation is pretty painless; you have the start screen, and the apps screen. Anything beyond that is an app, whether it's for settings or media & entertainment consumption. All you have to do is keep the pertinent apps you want on the start screen and keep the live tile information flowing. "At a glance", I believe it was labeled. I know I'm going to regret this, but how exactly is that beyond comprehension?

I guess some people do think having a stable, minimalistic, and intuitive OS would be cool. I know I certainly do.


RE: Oy boy...
By 91TTZ on 9/12/2012 4:14:37 PM , Rating: 2
What is boring about the OS? It seems to effectively do its job. What is the OS lacking that needs to be improved upon?


RE: Oy boy...
By Jeffk464 on 9/12/2012 6:34:14 PM , Rating: 1
Wow, 4" screen as an only option, FAIL. Not only do they not provide a large screen but they want to go to court to block all the large screen phones from being sold.


RE: Oy boy...
By Jeffk464 on 9/12/2012 6:58:54 PM , Rating: 2
I wouldn't trade my almost 1 year old galaxy nexus for this phone, which I would say is a major problem for apple.


RE: Oy boy...
By lawrance on 9/13/2012 3:24:46 PM , Rating: 2
Yea, I'm sure Apple will go broke by not converting a single Fandroid user.


RE: Oy boy...
By cyberguyz on 9/13/2012 6:36:19 AM , Rating: 2
Definitely a step forward for Apple. Very nice hardware that can at least compete with the multitude of innovative android phones out there. The A15 processor cores rock. The 4" screen finally makes it usable (My SGII has a 4" screen too and I really would not want anything bigger).

Software-wise I am not a fan of proprietary software systems and having to jailbreak them (risking an end to any possible OS updates/bug fixes) to make them useful outside of the vendor's little world. I am more inclined to lean toward an open software system that I can customize to my heart's content. For that reason alone I would not consider an iphone 5. Considering Samsung alone outsells iphones (I am not counting the other Android implementers here) I am far from the only smartphone user that feels that way.

Now if only the iphone 5 ran Android I would seriously consider it as an upgrade from by Sammy G2 ;)


And in other news....
By GPig on 9/12/2012 1:30:58 PM , Rating: 1
Even the (apparently) impartial BBC are posting what everyone else is thinking.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19557497#?utm...

Albeit in a back handed way




RE: And in other news....
By retrospooty on 9/12/2012 1:34:09 PM , Rating: 2
Yup. I am sure this will sell extremely well and make duckets of money, but as far ass the actual phone... There isnt really anything great in it. the CPU and GPU is insanely fast I am sure. Other than that, nothing new that isnt already there on other platforms for years.


RE: And in other news....
By tayb on 9/12/2012 1:41:39 PM , Rating: 3
It's just a phone. We're getting to the point where hardware changes have diminishing returns. The OS and software features are far more important. Some people prefer iOS, some prefer Android.

What I'm interested in the most is battery life and that doesn't look to have changed. It annoys me how 8-10 hours is deemed "enough" so when they save power with new energy efficient hardware they offset it elsewhere to keep the battery life the same. I wish I could charge my phone once a week.


RE: And in other news....
By retrospooty on 9/12/2012 1:44:30 PM , Rating: 2
"It's just a phone. We're getting to the point where hardware changes have diminishing returns."

Agreed. I am interested is this liquid metal thingy. I assume the iPhone 6 will utilize. That and a larger screen would be awesome enough to make me switch, but well have to wait another year to see what the competition has.

"What I'm interested in the most is battery life and that doesn't look to have changed."

I thought it said it was "improved". At least a bit better. Was already pretty good. The only alternative is larger battery like the Razer MAXX, but then you add bulk. I think its a good mix with that.


RE: And in other news....
By tayb on 9/12/2012 1:56:08 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Agreed. I am interested is this liquid metal thingy. I assume the iPhone 6 will utilize. That and a larger screen would be awesome enough to make me switch, but well have to wait another year to see what the competition has.


Yeah. A year is a long time in this world. The iPhone usually has nice hardware at launch but by the end of the year it is stale.

quote:
I thought it said it was "improved". At least a bit better. Was already pretty good. The only alternative is larger battery like the Razer MAXX, but then you add bulk. I think its a good mix with that.


The live blog says "exceeded iPhone 4S" but the numbers look the same to me.


RE: And in other news....
By Rukkian on 9/12/2012 2:58:24 PM , Rating: 3
I will be interested to see how it works in the real world. Their quoted numbers say 3g/lte, but as we that have had 4g for a year know, it sucks down the batter as much as twice as fast, depending on what you are doing.

I have a feeling the quoted numbers are for 3g.


RE: And in other news....
By TakinYourPoints on 9/12/2012 2:24:45 PM , Rating: 2
I don't get why reinventing the wheel is a necessary thing with mobile OS UIs. Something like Windows 7 is a refinement of paradigms that were introduced WAY back with Windows 95. It clearly works really well!

Refining, not reinventing, is the important thing here. As much as I'd like to see elements of WP7/8 rolled into iOS, I understand why it isn't, the original base and design should be the thing that is polished. Each OS is doing its own thing, and that's great.

As for Android changing as much as it has year to year, it kind of has to given that its been playing catchup to Apple and Microsoft in usability, performance, and reliability from day one.


RE: And in other news....
By Reclaimer77 on 9/13/2012 10:16:55 AM , Rating: 2
lol how can you criticize Android for taking "so long" to catch up, then also praise Windows Phone? Your bias is amazing. Microsoft still hasn't "caught up" and they've tried three completely different OS's now with apps that aren't compatible.

First they tried "Windows Mobile", that failed horribly. Then Windows Phone 7, which failed. Now Windows Phone 8. Sorry Windows Phone 7 users, Windows Phone 8 apps won't even WORK on your phone. And Windows Phone 8 phones won't be backwards comparable with Windows Phone 7 apps. Brilliant! And you criticize Android for "fragmentation" and claim their app developers have a tough time? If I'm a Windows Phone developer right about now my head is exploding.

If you're honestly going to criticize ANY of the three contenders for stumbling along the way and playing catch up, you have got to be kidding me if it's not Microsoft. Stop trying to sound objective, just stop pretending. You clearly aren't.


RE: And in other news....
By GPig on 9/12/2012 2:25:55 PM , Rating: 2
I agree on battery life. Instead of going down the route of shaving off a couple of mm they could have stuck in a bigger battery. It's basically a wide screen iPhone4(s) anyway so why bother making it thinner. It's not like it's a new design.

There's certainly plenty of new hardware out there that could have improved this phone (like most of what's in the Lumia 920).

I'm more interested in if they have fixed the gimped JavaScript performance in the browser. It's laughable compared to WP (and to a lesser extent Android) for canvas HTML5 games.


Biggest story is the A6
By tayb on 9/12/2012 1:28:24 PM , Rating: 2
Dual-core ARM Cortex A15 cores. I can't wait to see the benchmarks against the latest and greatest from Android and WP8.




RE: Biggest story is the A6
By TakinYourPoints on 9/12/2012 2:16:54 PM , Rating: 2
That was a surprise, I was expecting A9 cores again. I didn't know they could get A15s in the quantities they needed at this time.


RE: Biggest story is the A6
By geddarkstorm on 9/12/2012 2:44:36 PM , Rating: 2
A15 has been out and in production for a few months, so no surprise really. It would have been an immense mistake not to go with A15s, there really is no choice as the performance increase is enormous over the old A9s. Especially take in consideration how long Apple's phone release cycle is.


RE: Biggest story is the A6
By TakinYourPoints on 9/12/2012 3:42:30 PM , Rating: 2
I'm thinking more about volume. If a part is just new enough and cannot be supplied in the numbers Apple needs, they will pass. Must have been a close one there.


RE: Biggest story is the A6
By messele on 9/15/2012 2:54:32 AM , Rating: 2
The A15 core isn't a component that is bought and dropped onto the chip. The processor design is integrated and therefore takes no longer to manufacture than the A9 did, assuming the Fab process is up to speed which clearly it is.

The only thing that is going to slow the A15 getting integrated into a finished product is the design of the SoC and seeing as Apple were one of the two founding companies behind ARM (along with Acorn) it is not surprising they are first out of the blocks.


Hey Apple...
By Quadrillity on 9/12/2012 1:43:23 PM , Rating: 2
Welcome to 2010 :)




RE: Hey Apple...
By momorere on 9/12/2012 2:30:34 PM , Rating: 2
ME TOO ME TOO !!!! Oh wait, crApple is miles ahead of Android and doesn't have to play that game. You know that their products are always so "innovative" and "just work". It is funny as they will be releasing another ME TOO product next month although there isn't a market for 7in tablets as per God Jobs.


RE: Hey Apple...
By redpill on 9/12/2012 2:56:53 PM , Rating: 2
Mmm I don't know.. if you actually read all the posts.. there's an even amount of "Me Too" in the Android camp as well.. people like what they like.. and yeah.. I spent 3 years waiting for android to catch IOS in terms of features and reliability together.. Google has enough $$ and smart people.. they didn't need (imho) 30 iterations and 4 entire version releases to catch IoS..

Do you have your "Google Glasses" yet.. oh wait.. there's no market for that either.. if 7" ipad sales suck apple will kill it.. just like other businesses do..


My guess on CPU/GPU....
By GotThumbs on 9/12/2012 1:50:41 PM , Rating: 2
is that they reached into the IPAD3 or the new IPAD2 parts bin and just underclocked/undervolted it to extend battery time.

We'll see, but it really won't make a difference in bringing in loads of NEW owners (IMO). Apples best market for the IPhone 5 is its IPhone 4S,4,3 owners.

Although they will make loads of money on selling adapters for the pin out for people that want to use all the accessories they have with the old connector. That one change = large profits.

Apple excels at repeat customers for is phone line of 1.

Best Wishes,

- Android OS & $30Mo phone bill (includes data)




RE: My guess on CPU/GPU....
By Onimuto on 9/13/2012 2:47:51 PM , Rating: 2
$30 a month phone bill?
Prove this , doesn't exsit
Not for sprint , AT&T , or verison


RE: My guess on CPU/GPU....
By Cheesew1z69 on 9/13/2012 4:04:51 PM , Rating: 2
probably pre-paid...virgin, boost, or some other..


IFAIL5 coming to a store near you
By KrayLoN on 9/12/2012 4:03:57 PM , Rating: 1
I used to be an iphone customer. I loved my iphone until I started to see what the competition was coming out with. I didn't run out and get a droid right away. I waited till the android OS came out with updates and the phones started to get better. In my opinion they are are now ahead of the ball game. Apple may have started the trend, but their competition has taken it to the levels faster than Apple wanted. Apple wanted to milk their customers with releasing a new "feature" every year and slap a numeric update to their ibrand. Like a little child who couldn't have their way, they are now sueing their competition for giving us the consumer the freedom to move ahead. I was a dedicated Apple customer until they did that. If they hadn't gone sue happy, I may have still stuck to the iphone because i had a lot of money invested in apps on my iphone in the apple store. However, I've switched to the competition because I refuse to give another penny to a company who would rather hold back technology for profit and rather sue their compeitors with frivolous patents they should not have received in the first place than keep up with their consumer's wants/needs. I really hope the upper courts over turn the lawsuits and realize that Star Trek showed off ipads and iphone way before Apple "invented" them. It makes me really happy to see that the IFAIL5 is nothing but an iphone 4 with minor tweaks...and nothing revolutionary. Maybe if Apple concentrated on developing their products instead of sueing their competition, they could have released a product that was more competitive. Way to piss off your partners and your consumers by releasing your next generation without features that most of your consumers use on a daily basis.

In a couple months MS will release its Windows 8 smartphones and tablets. I see history repeating itself. Apple may have lead the market and started something revolutionary but because of their need to control how their consumers use their product, they have left the door open for their competition to come out with a better product... one that is flexible enough to meet the needs of the consumer. Apple had such a lead over their competition. Instead of sueing them, they should have worked with them to heavily infiltrate the business sector. Instead they didn't do that. Now Microsoft will come out with the product that businesses have been waiting for. Once that happens, the consumers who only have limited funds will opt for products that will do what the apple products do and integrate well into their business environments. Apple will once again fall behind.




By KrayLoN on 9/12/2012 4:18:19 PM , Rating: 2
btw... my spelling and grammar fails too so don't think you are going to troll me by posting corrections. I don't have an editor and I don't have all day at work to sit and edit my posts or worry about spelling or grammar when im commention on articles.


By Tony Swash on 9/12/2012 6:38:45 PM , Rating: 1
What drugs do you take by the way? Just asking because whatever they are I want to avoid them.


By Rukkian on 9/13/2012 8:36:16 AM , Rating: 2
While I understand where you are coming from, one of your main gripes is no different with MS. Win8 phones and RT tablets will have the exact same walled garden approach. You will not have the freedom to do what you want. I think the business part is spot on. I hope that we have a 3 way race going forward, as that should keep innovation happening at a good pace.


Lightning adapter
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 9/12/2012 4:44:28 PM , Rating: 4
LOL, the 30-pin to 8-pin Lightning adapter costs $30!!!!!

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD823ZM/A/lightn...




RE: Lightning adapter
By Kurz on 9/13/2012 11:03:21 AM , Rating: 2
Just me... isn't that connector HUGE?!


Apple are doomed!
By Tony Swash on 9/12/2012 1:54:21 PM , Rating: 1
Android is winning :p




RE: Apple are doomed!
By retrospooty on 9/12/2012 1:59:29 PM , Rating: 2
Props to Apple on updating thier phone. It's certainly nice and finally 4 inch and 4G but regardless of the money Apple makes, there are still better phones available on Android and it is still outselling it.

http://www.androidauthority.com/ihs-sum-android-de...


RE: Apple are doomed!
By retrospooty on 9/12/2012 1:59:29 PM , Rating: 2
Props to Apple on updating thier phone. It's certainly nice and finally 4 inch and 4G but regardless of the money Apple makes, there are still better phones available on Android and it is still outselling it.

http://www.androidauthority.com/ihs-sum-android-de...


Uninspired...
By themaster08 on 9/12/2012 3:02:24 PM , Rating: 5
After seeing this, my next phone will most definitely be the Nokia Lumia 920.




B!itch slapping
By zlandar on 9/12/2012 3:15:27 PM , Rating: 1
I find it hard to consider an Android phone if it's going to turn me into a pompous A-hole that needs to denigrate people by calling them "sheeples".

It's a f$$% phone. Grow up.




RE: B!itch slapping
By anactoraaron on 9/12/2012 3:57:44 PM , Rating: 4
Yes, that's the reason to buy or not buy a phone. riiiight.
quote:
It's a f$$% phone. Grow up.

Isn't it funny when people can't take the very advise they themselves give? #irony


Amazing
By MartyLK on 9/12/2012 6:07:42 PM , Rating: 1
For the first time since the iPhone came into existence, Apple is backing it up for feature inclusion. Apple is following Microsoft's example of non-modernizing. Whereas WP is kept featureless while the competition advances and evolves, so also now Apple is falling behind on innovation and advancement.

Samsung and the Android OEMs are loving this. Android will further extend its lead beyond iOS and the others. I'm really surprised by this. Apple has gone down hill since Steve passed. Apple keynote speakers are making excuses for the lack of features in the new iPhone. That's a sign of doom for Apple. Amazing.




RE: Amazing
By Tony Swash on 9/13/2012 7:30:22 AM , Rating: 2
The iPhone 5 is as disappointing as the iPhone 4S was a year ago. And look what happened then, the 4S became the top selling handset right up to the eve of the latest iPhone.

Do remember lots of article like these following the 4S launch?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/05/iphone-4s...

or

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/880723...

I love this one because it connects to a story about Apple's shares falling to $356 after the iPhone 4S launched. Oh doom! Apple's shares closed yesterday, a year later, at $669.

The iPhone 5 will be the best selling handset in the next year and Apple will sell in excess of 50 million this holiday quarter. It's a done deal.


RE: Amazing
By MartyLK on 9/13/2012 12:30:04 PM , Rating: 2
There's one difference - I never saw doom for Apple before. I now see it and believe it will happen. Whatever any stories have said in the past is irrelevant. Whatever the stories are now are also irrelevant. I have always been about truth and rationality and the truth and rationality right now is that Apple is going to fall way behind.


Yawn
By bigboxes on 9/12/2012 1:47:12 PM , Rating: 2
Late to the game and left behind. Get used to it, sheeple.




RE: Yawn
By Pirks on 9/12/2012 3:22:47 PM , Rating: 2
Yep, dual A15 cores have left everyone else behind. You're 100% right man, as always.


YAWN.....
By petrosy on 9/12/2012 7:18:24 PM , Rating: 2
Wake me up when Apple do something interesting!




RE: YAWN.....
By dorai_123 on 9/13/2012 4:31:23 AM , Rating: 2
But I can see iSheep all getting teary eyed and having goose bumps over this and worshiping it!!


My android phone has a biger ship inside, lol.
By jjlj on 9/12/2012 1:45:51 PM , Rating: 1
"In addition, the actual A6 ship is 22% smaller than the A5."




By geddarkstorm on 9/12/2012 2:45:59 PM , Rating: 2
All I ask is for a tall ship and a star to steer her by.

Oh, and 4G.


Why?
By Shadowself on 9/12/2012 3:31:00 PM , Rating: 3
The biggest complaint I have about the new iPhone 5 (...yes, there was nothing Earth shattering in the virtually a yawn of an announcement, but that's not something I'd complain about...) is they supposedly made it 18% thinner and 20% lighter but didn't make it have a significantly longer battery life. Why?

I bet the vast majority of current iPhone 4 or iPhone 4S users would not mind the phone to be about the same thickness and about the same weight if they could get 25% better battery life (assuming the vast majority of that 18% and 20% goes into battery).

Also I read that Apple is claiming the same battery life for 3G and 4G LTE. I'll believe that after extensive third party tests and not a second before.




Lighting?
By fic2 on 9/12/2012 3:42:15 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
One of the other big changes to come to the iPhone 5 is a redesigned “ Lighting ” dock connector (get it; Thunderbolt, Lightning **golf clap**).


Don't really get it unless you misspelled Lightning the first time.




By zephyrprime on 9/12/2012 2:02:40 PM , Rating: 2
The iphone 4 already had a backside illuminated sensor.




By 2bdetermine on 9/12/2012 4:45:23 PM , Rating: 2
4G LTE patents




Screen size
By 91TTZ on 9/12/2012 4:48:06 PM , Rating: 2
How much larger is the new iPhone's screen? I know it says it's 4" compared to 3.5", but since the width hasn't increased the area won't increase as much as much as it would if it got a conventional 4" screen. So a typical 4" phone will have quite a bit more screen area than this 4" iPhone.




Unfortunate FanBoy
By DJ Brandon on 9/12/2012 11:15:41 PM , Rating: 2
Up until 6 years ago I always had to have the hottest and newest cell phone! Didn't care on the brand just wanted the newest. Now all I care about are these stupid ridiculous tech lacking iPhone upgrades. I am BEYOND EXCITED and NEEEEEEEED to have this. Can I give anyone a good reason? No lol. But I still want it.




Hehehe...
By jahinoz on 9/13/2012 4:06:08 AM , Rating: 2
Headline today: iphone 5

Headline next month: Apple sued for patent infringement on iphone 5.

brb just getting get some popcorn...




40 bucks for a freakin adapter..
By elleehswon on 9/13/2012 8:32:38 AM , Rating: 2
Tim Cook: So, want to use your 20 pin docs with a new iphone 5?!
(Apple execs thinking)hmm, i wonder what it'll cost to mass produce those in china? probably a couple pennies a piece.
(Apple execs behind closed doors): how about 29 bucks for the one without a cord and 39 bucks for the one with the cord. That should pull about infinite profit.
(Apple execs behind closed doors): Ehh, our customers are mindless fanatics. They'll buy anything, regardless of the price. What others see as overpriced, they see as...a status symbol! *high five*
Tim Cook: ONLY $29 for the adapter block and $39 if you'd like a corded adapter!




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