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Hughes' logo is on the left, Apple's is on the right
Apple's iOS 5 includes a feature that is almost identical to an app a developer submitted in May 2010

It's no secret that Apple has been militant in suing competitors that employ technologies even remotely close to Apple's own [see: SamsungMotorolaHTC]. But when it comes to stealing ideas for apps from developers, Apple's intentions are a bit more dubious.

The Register reports that Apple is being accused of stealing the idea of one UK-based college student and developer — Greg Hughes. In May 2010, Hughes submitted an app for consideration called Wi-Fi Sync, which allowed users to sync their iTunes libraries wirelessly. 

Rather than receive the standard rejection email, Hughes reportedly got a call from an iPhone developer relations representative letting him know that his app was "admirable," but that some unspecified security concerns prevented it from being accepted. "They did say that the iPhone engineering team had looked at it and were impressed," Hughes told The Register. "They asked for my CV as well."

But rather than back down, Hughes simply submitted the app to the Cydia store, where it's sold more than 50,000 copies in a little more than a year. At $9.99 a pop, it's fair to say that Hughes made out quite nicely from his decision, though he declined to say how much he profited. 

That didn't pad the surprise that Hughes received earlier in the week, when Apple unveiled a number of key features for its upcoming iOS 5. One key feature, aptly named Wi-Fi Sync, does exactly what Hughes' rejected version did. Furthermore, Apple's icon for the app bears a striking resemblance to Hughes original design (see photo).

"Obviously I was fairly shocked," Hughes told The Register. "I'd been selling my app with that name and icon for at least a year. Apple knew that, as I'd submitted it to them, so it was surprising to see that." 

The Unofficial Apple Weblog has a list of other jailbreak developers that have been subject to similar "borrowing" by Apple.



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Nice...
By bupkus on 6/10/2011 9:08:29 AM , Rating: 5
Nice way to lead the industry Stevo.




RE: Nice...
By icanhascpu on 6/10/11, Rating: -1
RE: Nice...
By rpsgc on 6/10/2011 9:26:50 AM , Rating: 3
So basically what you're saying is that it's OK to steal someone's work if it's an "obvious" and much desired feature. Right.

GG.


RE: Nice...
By Souka on 6/10/2011 11:05:53 AM , Rating: 2
Well there was this company, called Cisco, that invented the iPhone...patent and all.

Yet for some reason, another company called Apple, at a later time relased a product called iPhone and is making millions(bil?)

And despite the patent, product (failure/unreleased) Apple essentially was the legal battle....

No surprise here from Apple...


RE: Nice...
By adiposity on 6/10/2011 11:55:30 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Well there was this company, called Cisco, that invented the iPhone...patent and all.


Are you serious? Are you talking about the iPhone trademark that they stopped using in 2005?

While I think it was questionable to let Apple use that trademark, that's hardly "inventing the iPhone."

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/cisco-lost-righ...


RE: Nice...
By Samus on 6/10/2011 5:09:41 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not one to defend Apple, but Cisco iPhone was likely to be a follow up product to their IP phone line, hence (iP)hone.

It looked and operated nothing like Apple's iPhone. The only thing they had in common was the name, which Cisco didn't care about in the end because it would have been a stupid name for a Cisco telecommunications product.


RE: Nice...
By honkj on 6/11/11, Rating: 0
RE: Nice...
By juserbogus on 6/10/2011 11:34:30 AM , Rating: 2
according to law it is. and, if it wasn't then there would be almost no new apps or solutions as most things created are derivatives of someone else's idea.


RE: Nice...
By xCross on 6/10/2011 12:59:59 PM , Rating: 2
And that is exactly what Apple is.


RE: Nice...
By MrBlastman on 6/10/11, Rating: 0
RE: Nice...
By MrBlastman on 6/10/2011 1:51:27 PM , Rating: 2
Parc not Park :-|


RE: Nice...
By tng on 6/10/2011 5:42:57 PM , Rating: 2
For clarity Palo Alto Research Center= PARC


RE: Nice...
By superstition on 6/10/2011 7:52:06 PM , Rating: 1
Apple paid Xerox for the tour.

The New Yorker:

"Jobs proposed a deal: he would allow Xerox to buy a hundred thousand shares of his company for a million dollars—its highly anticipated I.P.O. was just a year away—if PARC would 'open its kimono.'

Jobs was given a couple of tours, and he ended up standing in front of a Xerox Alto, PARC’s prized personal computer. Describes the innovations the Alto featured, including the mouse, icons, and 'windows.' Xerox soon began selling a version of the Alto. It was a flop—and Xerox withdrew from personal computers."

Another part of this story is the intense development process that went into making the Lisa computer. A smaller, but also intense, extension of that project yielded the Macintosh. The notion that the Lisa and Mac are just the Alto repackaged is ludicrous.


RE: Nice...
By omnicronx on 6/10/11, Rating: 0
RE: Nice...
By Alexstarfire on 6/10/2011 3:11:46 PM , Rating: 2
It's a little ironic that you use this argument to defend Apple as others have tried to use this argument to defend Samsung recently. One can't be acceptable and the other not acceptable, it's either one way or the other.

Considering that the symbol is almost identical to his I think he might have something to complain about there. Not sure if it'll come to anything considering I doubt he patented or trademarked anything. Doesn't make what Apple did any less immoral though.


RE: Nice...
By tayb on 6/11/2011 4:37:52 PM , Rating: 1
Consider that the symbol is a combination of two Apple icons that have been in use for about 10 years. Who is stealing from who?


RE: Nice...
By Alexstarfire on 6/12/2011 3:57:09 PM , Rating: 2
Yea, and if you mesh together two da Vinci painting I suppose it's still his work as well? Whoever invented the spoon and fork must own rights to the spork then. Guess Edison also own the rights to all flashlights too.

Hardly stealing when it's a brand new symbol, even if the two base symbols were from Apple.


RE: Nice...
By someguy123 on 6/10/2011 3:55:28 PM , Rating: 5
They did pretty much steal his logo outright.

It's not to farfetched to assume that they just pasted his code as well.

You can make a case for code as rights regarding code are blurry, but why did they go ahead and steal his logo? What were they thinking?


RE: Nice...
By nonseq on 6/10/2011 6:15:35 PM , Rating: 1
Apple OSX Tiger Software Update Icon. http://www.apple.com/support/macosxtigerserver/sof... now imagine replacing the blue marble with the Airport icon from OSX http://support.apple.com/manuals/#airport and you get a pretty good idea that Apple has been using this kinda of iconography for years. I would say the kid took some Apple elements and modified the circled arrows to be an ellipse.


RE: Nice...
By someguy123 on 6/10/2011 7:08:42 PM , Rating: 2
It was definitely a combination of those two elements, but one has to do with apple's updates and one with wi-fi signals. It's not necessarily a logical combination for wi-fi sync. If you compare the update logo the arrows are on each side, whereas the wi-fi sync logo matches Hughes' logo arrow placement on top and bottom.

Considering he submitted that logo a while back it's a bit too much of a coincidence, but I can't say that it wasn't a complete coincidence without actually working at apple.


RE: Nice...
By kingmotley on 6/12/2011 11:58:37 PM , Rating: 2
It's a logical combination, when you realize that the combination of the icons have already been used separately. The rotating arrows IS the symbol that iTunes makes when you sync the iPhone. The lines, are the symbol when your iPhone is on WiFi. It's not a stretch if you wanted to combine sync & wifi that those are the two icons you would pick.


RE: Nice...
By CharonPDX on 6/10/11, Rating: -1
RE: Nice...
By Just Tom on 6/14/2011 2:42:17 PM , Rating: 2
Interesting. And you know this because?

You may in fact be right. But unless you were in on those conversations you would have no way of knowing. It would hardly be the first time a corporation said "No, thanks" to a developer only to coopt his idea.


RE: Nice...
By tayb on 6/11/2011 4:35:25 PM , Rating: 2
Apple has been using those two icons for almost a decade. Combining them isn't stealing just because someone else already combined them before. Wifi icon + Sync icon = Wifi Sync icon.

Unless Apple used his code this is a non-story.


RE: Nice...
By Darkefire on 6/10/2011 9:34:13 AM , Rating: 2
For comparison's sake, when Valve incorporates an independent program's ideas and code into one of their flagship products (Portal, Counter-Strike, etc.), they do so by hiring the entire dev team first. Given that they asked for this guy's CV when they rejected him, you'd think it's the least they could do.


RE: Nice...
By bupkus on 6/10/2011 9:39:15 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
Yeah Im sure Apple wasnt planning this for their new OS from the point the released the previous full number upgrade or anything.
Yeah I'm sure Apple couldn't have thought up this idea for the previous upgrade or anything.
quote:
Lets ignore the fact that other devices have wifi syncing for years and pretend this guy came up with it and its an original idea.
No, lets ignore the fact that other devices have had wifi syncing for years and pretend Apple couldn't have come up with this years ago.
quote:
Lets ignore the fact that this guys icon is a simple combination of two icons apple has used in their UI for years. Gee I wonder why they'd look slimier?
Lets ignore the fact that Apple's icon is that of a simple apple with a bite taken out which had been suggested before in where was that... Genesis?
quote:
Some of you let your hate for a company blind your judgement just as much as the people you condemn for their love of the same.
Actually, you make a paranoid assumption and try to suggest my statement is from one of the "Some...". I don't hate Apple because they're successful. But I do hate bullies that tread upon those less able to defend their rights. I do hate those who hypocritically accuse others of stealing their ideas but fail to implement those ideas until someone else shows them how and why.

Now a question to you... Can Apple do no wrong?


RE: Nice...
By foxyjd1621 on 6/10/2011 10:42:52 AM , Rating: 4
It is easy to add in new parts of your OS when someone else has already created it for you.


RE: Nice...
By cochy on 6/10/11, Rating: -1
RE: Nice...
By StevoLincolnite on 6/10/2011 10:37:05 AM , Rating: 6
quote:
Nice way to lead the industry Stevo.


I try my best! :P


RE: Nice...
By clhathat on 6/10/11, Rating: 0
RE: Nice...
By michael2k on 6/10/2011 4:00:51 PM , Rating: 1
You must have missed the whole DOS 6.0 DoubleSpace thing....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stac_Electronics#Micr...


RE: Nice...
By shabby on 6/10/2011 6:43:14 PM , Rating: 2
Following in Intels footsteps
By jfelano on 6/10/2011 9:28:13 AM , Rating: 3
Looks like Apple is getting it's business model from Intel.




RE: Following in Intels footsteps
By M4gery on 6/10/11, Rating: 0
RE: Following in Intels footsteps
By cochy on 6/10/2011 9:53:53 AM , Rating: 3
and Twitter


RE: Following in Intels footsteps
By BarkHumbug on 6/10/2011 10:00:51 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Buy 'em out, boys!


RE: Following in Intels footsteps
By MrTeal on 6/10/2011 11:02:16 AM , Rating: 3
An all-time classic.
quote:
Oh, I didn't get rich by writing a lot of checks!


RE: Following in Intels footsteps
By Strunf on 6/10/2011 12:13:55 PM , Rating: 3
The thing is that Apple has loads of blind followers while Intel only has followers, I still find it amazing how most people that enter the Apple circle somehow think Steve Jobs is god, I mean it's like he said let there be mp3 players and the iPod was made, let there be smartphones and the iPhone was made, let there be tablets and the iPad was made...


nothing new
By kleinma on 6/10/2011 9:39:15 AM , Rating: 4
Apple has been doing this since they went to visit Xerox. Nothing new at all.




RE: nothing new
By Mitch101 on 6/10/2011 9:49:29 AM , Rating: 4
Steve Jobs listening to Bill Gates' "iPad / iPad2 / iCloud" idea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UeLk6vmbtM&feature...

Start at 1:25 into it.


RE: nothing new
By superstition on 6/10/11, Rating: 0
RE: nothing new
By superstition on 6/15/2011 8:01:47 PM , Rating: 2
Rating me down won't change the facts. Either people can post a rebuttal or leave things alone.

The New Yorker:

" Jobs proposed a deal: he would allow Xerox to buy a hundred thousand shares of his company for a million dollars—its highly anticipated I.P.O. was just a year away—if PARC would 'open its kimono .'

Jobs was given a couple of tours, and he ended up standing in front of a Xerox Alto, PARC’s prized personal computer. Describes the innovations the Alto featured, including the mouse, icons, and “windows.” Xerox soon began selling a version of the Alto. It was a flop—and Xerox withdrew from personal computers."

So, why rate down the comment to 0? Is it because the history is less fun than the fiction?


RE: nothing new
By superstition on 6/16/2011 4:05:46 PM , Rating: 2
1979 - Apple Visits PARC

"Jef Raskin, a project manager with Apple, first told Jobs and Wozniak about the research being done at PARC. It's a mistake to envision this scene as taking place in some deserted parking garage, with Raskin hiding in the shadows and doing his best Deep Throat impersonation. A closer scenario is that Raskin wanted to work more directly on a GUI, and dropped a bug in Jobs' ear about the neato keeno work being done at PARC. Jobs was reluctant to go at first, but eventually Raskin, who wrote his master's thesis on a WYSIWYG graphical interface back in 1967 and was seeing some of his ideas brought to fruition by the folks in PARC, piqued his interest.

At any rate, Jobs, who was first told by Raskin about the fun going on at PARC in 1976, decided that he wanted to bring a team of Appleniks into PARC and see what was causing such a buzz - but again, the idea of Jobs coming in like a kid touring Epcot with a tape recorder hidden under his shirt is mistaken. Apple negotiated a deal with Xerox; in return for a block of Apple stock, Xerox allowed Jobs and his team to tour PARC in December 1979, take notes, and implement some of the ideas and concepts being bounced around at PARC in their own creations. I'm not sure how Xerox felt about Apple subsequently hiring half - perhaps the better half - of PARC's staff away from them, but the process was relatively above-board; no night kidnappings or bribes under the table at Jack In the Box. Xerox allowed Apple to use their ideas in their machines. As Wozniak says on his Website, 'Steve Jobs made the case to Xerox PARC execs directly that they had great technology but that Apple knew how to make it affordable enough to change the world. This was very open. In the end, Xerox got a large block of Apple stock for sharing the technology. That's not stealing outright.'"

"The reason why Jobs got the reputation of being so brilliant in human-centered computing is because he neglected to tell anyone at PARC that his perceptive questions about GUIs and so on were drawn from his discussions of such things with Raskin at Apple a month or two earlier. He masterfully made it appear as though he was encountering bitmapped GUIs for the first time in his life instead of having discussed them with someone who had visited PARC himself."
http://www.sitepoint.com/real-history-gui/

"Apple engineers visited the PARC facilities (Apple secured the rights for the visit by compensating Xerox with a pre-IPO purchase of Apple stock) and a number of PARC employees subsequently moved to Apple to work on the Lisa and Macintosh GUI. However, the Apple work extended PARC's considerably, adding manipulatable icons, a fixed drop-down menu bar and drag&drop manipulation of objects in the file system (see Macintosh Finder) for example. A list of the improvements made by Apple to the PARC interface can be read here (folklore.org) It's hard to say which particular features were originated in which project, though. Jef Raskin warns that many of the reported facts in the history of the PARC and Macintosh development are inaccurate, distorted or even fabricated, due to the lack of usage by historians of direct primary sources."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_graphi...


Apple
By foxyjd1621 on 6/10/2011 10:42:06 AM , Rating: 2
Is a terrible company with terrible ethics... as can be seen by their track record. Again I will say this: Apple repackages other peoples' ideas and passes them off as their own. It looks nice and the causal consumer who wants 'status' buys an overpriced ripped off product... nothing new there.
Eventually you will realize you have been wasting your money and enjoy a free market like the rest of us.

FYI Apple has viruses
Apple has terrible company ethics: See articles about Foxconn in Chengdu and other related incidents. Is Apple concerned about workers... no. They are concerned about making money.

No doubt Steve Jobs made a successful company but his ruthlessness has led to a company that morally and ethically lower than I would care to be.




RE: Apple
By hexxthalion on 6/13/2011 5:56:02 AM , Rating: 2
man, you need medical attention, there's a troll living inside you


To be fair
By Strunf on 6/10/2011 12:35:11 PM , Rating: 1
Apple may have copy it but is it really bad? The iPhone when it was released didn't have copy/paste if I had created my little App that would allow it and sell it, would I really have a reason to complain if Apple later added it to the iPhone like it did?
There are plenty of little Apps that only cover the small limitations of your smartphone and these are bound (hopefully) to be fixed as they should!




RE: To be fair
By Cheesew1z69 on 6/10/2011 2:23:57 PM , Rating: 2
You are trying to tell me, if you spent a ton of time to write an app, that Apple denied, then implemented into a future release, you wouldn't have a problem with this? I think you are full of shit and would be throwing a hissy fit that they stole your idea.


RE: To be fair
By Strunf on 6/10/11, Rating: 0
RE: To be fair
By Cheesew1z69 on 6/11/2011 9:30:23 PM , Rating: 1
A patent troll? Um...way to ass ume shit as it's obvious you have no clue who I am or what I am. And it's quite obvious you miss the point.


Icon...
By vortmax2 on 6/10/2011 10:56:43 AM , Rating: 3
I like Mr. Hughes' icon better...




nothing new
By unplug on 6/10/2011 9:09:57 AM , Rating: 2
welcome to design 101




Ugh
By dagamer34 on 6/10/2011 9:17:24 AM , Rating: 2
Damn it, if they're going to "steal" stuff from other developers and operating systems, please take app switching from webOS. Having a row of icons especially on the iPad is borderline stupid.




hypocracy
By semicolon on 6/10/2011 3:23:29 PM , Rating: 2
Seemingly simple ideas like this are adamantly defended by big players like Apple. If the roles were reversed, Apple would be suing this guy into oblivion. Remember, Apple has actually sued others for something as obvious and simple as a swipe-gesture to unlock a device.




By twhittet on 6/10/2011 5:49:49 PM , Rating: 2
Implementing an obvious feature that was completely missing, not a problem, Apple did no wrong there.

BUT - they should not have blocked him from the market originally. I don't know what rules it violated since it was simply adding an additional feature, and that's why I hate Apple.




By BugblatterIII on 6/10/2011 6:16:27 PM , Rating: 2
First off, I don't like Apple so I'm not an Apple apologist.

If you look at the icons they combine the standard wifi symbol with the standard sync symbol and give it a 'web 2.0' background. Absolutely standard.

It's natural to focus on that because it's what we can see. It's irrelevant though.

Did they nick his idea? No, wireless syncing has been around for many many years. I was doing it back in 2003 on Windows Mobile.

Did they nick his code? They'd be bloody idiots to do so, and not a shred of evidence has been presented to suggest that they did.

Perhaps the success of his app prompted Apple to add this feature. More likely they were already planning to add it and didn't want a third-party app stealing their thunder. Not nice but that's business, and any company would have done the same.

I like to read articles bashing Apple for, well, pretty much anything because I hate their arrogance. However this is a non-story.




My 2 pennies...
By evo slevven on 6/11/2011 10:33:06 AM , Rating: 2
As far as the logos go, you have to keep in mind that Apple's case against Samsung was simply about a similarities in design and that, albeit a small things, it was given a degree of precedent in court.

Another problem is that while wifi syncing isn't new, how it existed as far as iTunes is concerned and its functionality will be another consideration.

Regardless of how you might feel about it, if filed at the right court, the burden is on the defendant (which would be Apple) to prove their innocence.

Fact is the kid submitted an app with a nearly identical logo, function and purpose. It could also be determined that the intellectual copyright was violated; they simply took his idea and applied it differently so while the source code would be different the logic and purpose of doing so was based on his work.




By jconan on 6/11/2011 3:37:23 PM , Rating: 2
This is clearly a bully and theft from a large corporation. The App store does provide a way for Apple to view and steal ideas from other developers before the developers get to market their stuff 1st hand. If apps are rejected Apple can claim to have the idea first.




accused by who?
By hexxthalion on 6/13/2011 5:52:44 AM , Rating: 2
your headline states that apple has been accused but you failed to mention by who.

sorry, but wifi synching has been in development for some time at apple.

oh yeah, dailytech, almost forgot where i am




Wifi sync
By Helmet098 on 6/10/2011 9:39:01 AM , Rating: 1
The icons are completely different.
One is blue and one is silver.
I see no resemblance?




Can't side with the developer
By malibu66 on 6/10/2011 10:18:37 AM , Rating: 1
You know what, I don't like Apple and the way it operates but I'm having trouble siding with the dev on this one; from the context presented in the article at least. The article states that Apple showed interest, pointed out some flaws, and even asked for his CV. Sounds like he could have taken the difficult way and slogged it out with Apple if he had so chosen too. Instead, he chose to go the easier route of selling through the Apple competitor and he made out like a bandit. Frankly I wouldn't blame Apple for wanting to go their route and do this in their way at this point.




Ka Ching...
By XZerg on 6/10/2011 11:59:51 AM , Rating: 1
Ka Ching barometer going through the roof for Mr. Hughes now... Blast the shit of Apple and laugh all the way to the bank...




I have the guts to say it...
By The0ne on 6/11/2011 2:54:46 AM , Rating: 1
Can someone kill this steve guy already please...pretty please?




So much derp
By Pat Dissent on 6/10/11, Rating: -1
RE: So much derp
By malibu66 on 6/10/2011 10:36:16 AM , Rating: 3
Apple didn't have enough imagination to use a local wireless network for wireless sync? Wow.


RE: So much derp
By bupkus on 6/10/2011 11:04:17 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
So instead of crying about Apple "ripping" him off, maybe he should have read the Dev Agreement before starting work
...which explicitly states Apple's right to rip developer's off.

Uhh... did I misquote?
Sorry.


RE: So much derp
By malibu66 on 6/10/2011 1:10:41 PM , Rating: 2
IF (patent on concept exists)
THEN sue Apple.
ELSE IF (copyright on the code) AND (Apple used his code)
THEN sue Apple.
ELSE
Complete idle griping and move on.


RE: So much derp
By Smilin on 6/10/2011 4:29:30 PM , Rating: 1
Ah phukit. I'm taking away my +1 and instead posting this in the hopes others will take note and give you a +5.

This sums it up folks. There is no way the kid patented the idea. It is also highly unlikly apple just straight stole his code.

If you see me post here you know I've no love for Apple but this kid has no case.


RE: So much derp
By Denigrate on 6/10/2011 5:38:58 PM , Rating: 2
IF (guy publishes code & sells it)
THEN sue Apple.
END


WiFi Sync an Original Idea?
By Hardcache on 6/10/11, Rating: -1
RE: WiFi Sync an Original Idea?
By bupkus on 6/10/2011 9:42:29 AM , Rating: 3
Why then did 50,000 customers buy his app?


RE: WiFi Sync an Original Idea?
By truthteller on 6/10/2011 9:47:25 AM , Rating: 3
You missed the point, which is not surprising. The point is that he developed something which they acknowledged was good, and that they didn't have yet, and now they created something that does EXACTLY the same thing. If you create something, no matter how obvious it may be (which apparently it wasn't because Apple hadn't developed one before this guy), he developed it first. That's the point. You make it first, that means anyone else who makes the same exact thing is copying you. They now owe you because it apparently wasn't obvious enough for them to create before you.


What a dumbass
By mfenn on 6/10/11, Rating: -1
RE: What a dumbass
By R3T4rd on 6/10/2011 10:03:15 AM , Rating: 2
Where did it say in the article Apple offered him a job with Apple's Dev Team?

And I think he was smart not to take the job. Just look at all the Dev Team members who goes amiss and dies or gets put in jail and never heard from again for accidentally leaking info and or accidentlly leaving a beta device in public.


FUD
By 3DTOPO on 6/10/11, Rating: -1
Most of you are morons
By smackababy on 6/10/11, Rating: -1
RE: Most of you are morons
By smackababy on 6/10/2011 10:57:41 AM , Rating: 4
And to be clear, I don't like what Apple does. Their business practices cater to the tech illiterate and the ultra smug.


RE: Most of you are morons
By bupkus on 6/10/2011 11:52:23 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Apple did not steal this guy's idea nor did they steal his app.
They just viewed his app, rejected it on certain merits and then coincidentally added that very same functionality to their next OS release. [Apple engineer to Apple designer... "why not just use the same icon?"]
quote:
They never used his code and he didn't come up with wireless sync.
Like saying Apple didn't invent electricity so they shouldn't claim they invented anything electronic. Invention always builds on previous invention. Doesn't Apple encourage developers to do just that?
quote:
The fact that they rejected it and added it into their OS is pointless. They have the right to do that to everyone.
Which should be a cautionary note to all app developers for Apple.
quote:
Did MS steal Norton's idea of antivirus protection because the[y] now include it with the OS?
But neither was Norton required to present its software to MS for inspection and approval.
quote:
Only the guy selling a grossly overpriced app.
All the times I read statements about the marketplace validating Apple's superior products by virtue of their astounding sales and yet undermining the validity of this young developer's timeliness and foresight as displayed by his success and sales numbers?

Does Apple then adopt the notion that app developers exist to profit Apple as any exorbitant profits belong to Apple?


By Denigrate on 6/10/2011 9:56:45 AM , Rating: 5
Are you fracking stupid? Guy codes something that Apple obviously thought was great, they even tell the guy so but wiggle out of actually paying him for it with a "security concerns" angle. Like Apple actually has any security concerns as they ship the least secure OS every single day.

What Apple did here is the very definition of stealing someone else's work.


By XZerg on 6/10/2011 12:23:54 PM , Rating: 1
That's stealing someone else's idea and in business world that's a no no. The good thing for Mr Hughes is that he probably has all the conversations and the proofs with him to go to court with and damn sure Apple's own Apps application records will show this guy's app being there last year.


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