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The latest Laptop Hunter Ad featuring Matt and Olivia
"Hey, you need to stop running those ads, we lowered our prices."

The battle between Microsoft and Apple has been a long and arduous one. Until the turn of the century, Apple wasn't much of a threat to Microsoft's bottom line. However, the rise of the iPod music player, the iPhone, Apple's resurgence with its Mac computers, and the resultant "Get a Mac" commercials have been a thorn in Microsoft's side.

Microsoft sat on the sidelines for years as Apple fired away at the stability, reliability, and lack of "user friendliness" with PCs. Apple labeled PCs are virus-prone machines and burned Windows Vista at the stake. Finally, this past April, Microsoft fired back with all its might on the one thing that Apple couldn't argue with when it comes to Macs versus PCs:  price.

A series of Laptop Hunter ads made waves on television and on the internet which showed PC-based notebooks as offering a better value for the money while Macs were labeled as "pretty, but expensive". After the first few commercials aired, Apple spokesman Bill Evans issued the following statement, "A PC is no bargain when it doesn't do what you want. The one thing that both Apple and Microsoft can agree on is that everyone thinks the Mac is cool. With its great designs and advanced software, nothing matches it at any price."

It now appears that Apple is even more concerned about the continued Laptop Hunter ads. In fact, if Microsoft COO Kevin Turner's recounting is accurate, Apple's legal department is more than a bit peeved at the commercials. Turner noted at Microsoft's Worldwide Partner Conference:

And so we've been running these PC value ads. Just giving people saying, hey, what are you looking to spend? "Oh, I'm looking to spend less than $1,000." Well we'll give you $1,000. Go in and look and see what you can buy. And they come out and they just show them. Those are completely unscripted commercials.

And you know why I know they're working? Because two weeks ago we got a call from the Apple legal department saying, hey -- this is a true story -- saying, "Hey, you need to stop running those ads, we lowered our prices." They took like $100 off or something. It was the greatest single phone call in the history that I've ever taken in business.

I did cartwheels down the hallway. At first I said, "Is this a joke? Who are you?" Not understanding what an opportunity. And so we're just going to keep running them and running them and running them.

Apple is correct about its lowered pricing. With its latest MacBook Pro refresh, it lowered the price of entry for its 15" and 17" models by $300. It also introduced the new 13" MacBook Pro at a price $100 lower than its predecessor. However, the cheapest way to get an Apple notebook is still going to cost you $999 -- that gets you a polycarbonate 13" MacBook running at 2.13GHz.

So even though Mac computers are across the board cheaper than in the past, Microsoft still has a free pass to tout the “lower price, better value” angle. And from the looks of Turner’s comments, Microsoft appears to be content in running the Laptop Hunter ad campaign for a long time – just like Apple with its “Get a Mac” series.

You can view the latest Laptop Hunter commercial with Matt and Olivia here.



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Keep 'em coming
By JasonMick (blog) on 7/16/2009 8:59:51 AM , Rating: 5
<Mortal Kombat voice>Finnniishhh Himmm!!</Mortal Kombat voice>

But seriously Apple can't complain about the Microsoft ads when they been spewing deceitful garbage about Windows in their ads for the last several years.

The main reason Microsoft has seen a turnaround is because of strong new products like Windows 7. Apple should complain less and similarly focus on its product design and opening its systems if it wants to remain popular and successful.




RE: Keep 'em coming
By FITCamaro on 7/16/2009 9:24:58 AM , Rating: 5
Would it be legal for Microsoft to hire the same people Apple uses in its commercials? Then make an ad where the "Mac Guy" says "Yeah hey. You've been making some commercials lately that have been kicking our ass. Could you stop making them please?"

Then the PC guy just kicks him in the balls and says "No."


RE: Keep 'em coming
By The Sword 88 on 7/16/2009 10:29:52 AM , Rating: 5
That would be the best commercial ever


RE: Keep 'em coming
By MrBlastman on 7/16/2009 11:08:19 AM , Rating: 5
Mac Guy: Hi, I'm a Mac.
PC Guy: Hi, I'm a PC.

*suave-looking Mac guy looks down at the ground with a sad face*

*PC Guy walks over*

PC Guy: What's wrong, Mac?
Mac Guy: I'm broke. I had a hot date with a supermodel MacBook Pro the other night and ended up blowing all my money...

PC Guy: Oh, Sorry to hear tha...
Mac Guy: Worst of all, she didn't even put out, all I got was a hug...

PC Guy: What a tease.

Mac Guy: Yeah. I ran into her yesterday and asked her out again - but she wanted me to pick her up in a limousine and fly her to the NYC for the evening... I told her why don't we should just hang out at my place and cuddle...

... She kicked me in the balls, called me a cheapskate and ran off with some other greasy looking Mac who had lots of money.

*PC Guy pats him on the back, comforting him*

PC Guy: Ouch. I hung out with my Netbook Girl last night watching Mythbusters. Chicks dig the inner geek in me.

*Mac Guy shoots himself*


RE: Keep 'em coming
By FingerMeElmo87 on 7/16/09, Rating: -1
RE: Keep 'em coming
By Samus on 7/16/2009 1:05:16 PM , Rating: 5
one of the smartest girls i know is a striper. don't hate. everyone has their reasons.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By MrBlastman on 7/16/2009 1:08:03 PM , Rating: 5
Wow, she's one of those people that paint the lines down the middle of the road? ;)


RE: Keep 'em coming
By Ammohunt on 7/16/2009 2:32:27 PM , Rating: 3
"To hell with the Devil!!!" oh wait thats Stryper


RE: Keep 'em coming
By Gul Westfale on 7/16/09, Rating: 0
RE: Keep 'em coming
By SavagePotato on 7/16/2009 1:11:30 PM , Rating: 5
Such as lots and lots of money for example?

Trust me if women payed male geeks for sex I would be a hooker by about the time it takes me to finish typing this.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By quiksilvr on 7/18/2009 3:02:09 AM , Rating: 3
Enjoy V.D.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By EricMartello on 7/16/2009 1:53:05 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
one of the smartest girls i know is a striper. don't hate. everyone has their reasons.


So this girl is the go-to person for making a ghetto honda civic look like a badass race car?


RE: Keep 'em coming
By Maxima2k2se on 7/16/2009 2:12:02 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
making a ghetto honda civic look like a badass race car?


Sorry but this is not possible, so please stop making your car sound like my weed eater!!


RE: Keep 'em coming
By Gul Westfale on 7/16/2009 7:45:32 PM , Rating: 4
aren't all civics ghetto?


RE: Keep 'em coming
By quiksilvr on 7/18/2009 3:03:26 AM , Rating: 2
All Civics before 2001 are, yes. Nowadays...
http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Honda/honda-Civic...


RE: Keep 'em coming
By Cpt Faceplant on 7/17/2009 12:52:40 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Sorry but this is not possible, so please stop making your car sound like my weed eater!!


Holy crap! I just wet myself at work. What am I going to do!


RE: Keep 'em coming
By FITCamaro on 7/16/2009 4:52:00 PM , Rating: 2
probably paying her way through law school.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By InfantryRocks on 7/16/2009 5:19:42 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
probably paying her way through law school.


LOL! Reminds me of the Chris Rock bit:

You know 'the stripper myth.' The stripper myth is: 'I'm stripping to pay my tuition.' No you're not! There's no strippers in college! There's no clear heels in biology! Shit, I didn't know they had a college that only took one-dollar bills. If they've got so many strippers in college, how come I never got a smart lap dance? I never got a girl that sat on my lap and said 'if I was you, I would diversify my portfolio. You know, ever since the end of the Cold War, I find NATO obsolete.' I haven't met her yet. If I do, she's gonna get a big tip.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By 67STANG on 7/17/2009 1:37:40 AM , Rating: 4
Just remember, there is NO sex in the champagne room.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By sxr7171 on 7/18/2009 9:30:05 AM , Rating: 2
Many fund their way through med school believe it or not.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By peterSK on 7/17/09, Rating: -1
RE: Keep 'em coming
By Chocobollz on 7/17/2009 4:47:44 PM , Rating: 2
Not for the guy who loses his balls ;-)


RE: Keep 'em coming
By DigitalFreak on 7/16/2009 10:48:02 AM , Rating: 3
I'm sure they signed non-compete contracts or something. That would be funny though.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By atlmann10 on 7/16/2009 12:59:30 PM , Rating: 2
I agree on that commercial that would be both a truly representative message and funny as he11


RE: Keep 'em coming
By putergeek00 on 7/16/2009 2:11:58 PM , Rating: 5
Letterman has some spoof ads and they did almost that very thing.

http://www.geeksugar.com/262684

Funniest thing I think I've ever seen! I laughed for weeks!


RE: Keep 'em coming
By tdawg on 7/16/2009 2:23:29 PM , Rating: 2
Man, I would love to see this commercial.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By FITCamaro on 7/16/2009 3:22:00 PM , Rating: 3
Microsoft are you paying attention to this? MAKE THIS COMMERCIAL AND WE WILL LOVE YOU!


RE: Keep 'em coming
By bodar on 7/16/2009 2:41:22 PM , Rating: 5
They should just license the scene from Dodgeball where Justin Long is being pelted with high-speed dodgeballs, then cut to Bill Gates and Jerry Seinfeld manning the launcher and high-fiving.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By FITCamaro on 7/16/2009 3:22:44 PM , Rating: 2
ROFL!!! That they could probably pull off.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By SiliconAddict on 7/16/2009 10:17:14 PM , Rating: 2
Epic. Just epic. If someone wants to start a fundraiser drive to make this I'll drop $100. :-D


RE: Keep 'em coming
By Hieyeck on 7/16/2009 9:29:32 AM , Rating: 2
I can't believe it, but I'm going to agree with Mick. Win7 is simply GORGEOUS even if you gut it completely. Not counting download and disc-burning time, Win7 was installed and running on this in 20 minutes... http://tinyurl.com/nll9uy - If you don't want to click the link:
- Intel Pentium® M Processor 730 [1.60GHz, 2MB L2 cache,
533MHz FSB]
- 512MB DDR333

Works nice, and even better after a little bit of stripping down. And a little tweaking: used the 32-bit version and ran XP driver installs in compatibility mode for hardware that didn't have vista/7 drivers. Works faster compared to vista64 installed on my desktop system with 2.5x2 and 4GB.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By Belard on 7/16/09, Rating: -1
RE: Keep 'em coming
By Mitch101 on 7/16/2009 9:59:37 AM , Rating: 1
Why do people really feel the need to complain about Vista still when you can get Windows 7 for Free to use for about a year and can spend $50.00 upgrading to Windows 7 when its released?

If people hate Vista that much just run the beta of Windows 7. In fact I read tons of people who are running Windows 7 betas that love it and have no problem with it then go back to Vista and complain? Why? Just keep running the beta and install Windows 7 when it comes out.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By Belard on 7/16/09, Rating: -1
RE: Keep 'em coming
By Jason H on 7/16/2009 12:50:24 PM , Rating: 3
Computers sold with Vista today typically come with a free upgrade offer for 7.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By Belard on 7/17/2009 4:06:06 AM , Rating: 1
... and....?

Your response has to make sense to the subject matter. I'll do my best.

$50 deal is over...
If you bought a PC a few weeks ago or beyond, you didn't get your coupon for Windows7... So its $100~200 for an upgrade disc that is limited to 32 or 64bit. To do both, buy the retail version.

Buy a new PC now, which = $0~$1 costs to the customer + time to install it.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By RaisedinUS on 7/16/2009 10:31:22 AM , Rating: 2
I Have Win7 on my Dell Mini9. With 2 GB RAM and 32GB SSD, it runs very well as is.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By SavagePotato on 7/16/2009 1:15:10 PM , Rating: 5
No matter how many times you scream I hate Vista Belard, you are still going to be a wannabe that is stuck thinking it's 2007.

Vista bashing is over, only know nothing wannabe techs do it with a straight face anymore.

Everyone who knows something knows that Vista is a solid OS and has for some time. The free meal ticket to bash Vista and get upvotes ended a long time ago.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By 67STANG on 7/17/2009 1:43:05 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Everyone who knows something knows that Vista is a solid OS and has for some time.

Since SP1 actually...

The only reason I run Vista is because I wanted to be able to run 8GB+ RAM and Photoshop 64 and XP64 sucks a big one.

Vista 64 is every bit as fast as XP SP3, but needed 6GB RAM more to be that way. By the way, saying someone who hates Vista is stuck in 2007 is a bit harsh. XP is still a solid OS, and until recently, was a better choice.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By Belard on 7/17/09, Rating: 0
RE: Keep 'em coming
By SavagePotato on 7/17/2009 11:11:31 AM , Rating: 3
How bout this, no.

You are just an ass-talking ass-clown. I am calling you on it.

Step one turn off UAC instead of bitching like a baby.

Step two stop lying.

Step three stop wasting everyone's time with your nonsense. You aren't talking to neophytes who have never ran Vista here, so your nonsense, lies and exaggerations pull no weight.

Once again it's not 2007 your free lunch is gone, and you will be held accountable for making up shit to support your point.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By Hieyeck on 7/17/09, Rating: 0
RE: Keep 'em coming
By 3DoubleD on 7/16/2009 11:35:23 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
- Intel Pentium® M Processor 730 [1.60GHz, 2MB L2 cache, 533MHz FSB] - 512MB DDR333

I have basically the same laptop. What did you do to strip down Win 7 and squeeze a little more performance out? I've been using XP on that laptop for years, recently switched to Ubuntu because XP was painfully slow compared to my Vista desktops. Unfortunately, Ubuntu isn't great for a lot of things, so I'm looking to go back to XP... or Win 7 by the sounds of it. Thanks


RE: Keep 'em coming
By Hieyeck on 7/16/2009 4:01:28 PM , Rating: 2
I'd start with Themes, performance (under system, etc. Just some of the basic stuff.

After that, remove windows components (the ones that MS jams down your throat).

Also, I disabled superfetch/prefetch/readyboost/readyboot. There was no noticable decrease/increase in performance, boot time dropped down, and it saved my old HDD from doing any more read/writes than it needs to.

My final step - I went through the services and disabled anything that didn't sound the least bit useful (I'm never going to be doing IPSec tunnels on that junk for example).

There more you COULD do, but you could also get away with less. I just did what I knew how to do off the top of my head or managed to find with a few seconds of poking around. It worked good enough out of box I could get away with doing nothing - except for using the compatibility mode to install XP drivers :) All of it was just to make sure I can play decent quality movies without it choking on me.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By Luticus on 7/16/2009 4:30:20 PM , Rating: 1
If xp or 7 is still slow for you, try Debian. If you don't mind working for it a little it's really nice and much better than Ubuntu in my opinion, but Debian is my favorite distro right now and ubuntu is pretty much my least liked distro so I'm slightly biased against Ubuntu. :)


RE: Keep 'em coming
By gus6464 on 7/16/2009 10:16:02 AM , Rating: 5
I recently switched from a 3 year old white macbook to a 13in. Acer Timeline and couldn't be happier. Got this thing on sale for $550, get 9 hours on a charge, and is fast enough for all the apps I use (office, web, 720p video watching).

Also put Windows 7 RC the first day and I just cannot go back to any other OS. It is rock solid, fast, and I am completely in love with Aero Peek. Apple has absolutely nothing to talk smack about when it comes to Windows 7.

I still love my iphone, ipod nano, and mac mini I use as a music server though :p


RE: Keep 'em coming
By MrBlastman on 7/16/2009 10:50:08 AM , Rating: 2
They could go a long way by removing stupid stuff from their macbooks such as that second enter key next to the spacebar that you hit all the time on accident...

Or, add a page up/page down key - hey, that'd be nice!


RE: Keep 'em coming
By djcameron on 7/16/2009 11:09:06 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
...everyone thinks the Mac is cool. With its great designs and advanced software...

Ha, "advanced software" my butt! They recently broke lots of software with their lousy QA on their "Java Update 4" (which is still way behind everyone else), and their tech support response was "you should have backed up your computer". You CANNOT roll back the update, like you can with Windows updates. My OS-X MacBook is fixin' to become an Ubuntu MacBook.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By crystal clear on 7/16/09, Rating: -1
RE: Keep 'em coming
By crystal clear on 7/16/09, Rating: -1
RE: Keep 'em coming
By SavagePotato on 7/16/2009 1:17:14 PM , Rating: 5
Om nom nom, the downvote crocodile got you crystal clear, he doesn't work for the EU anymore.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By crystal clear on 7/18/09, Rating: -1
RE: Keep 'em coming
By crystal clear on 7/20/09, Rating: -1
RE: Keep 'em coming
By Regs on 7/16/09, Rating: 0
RE: Keep 'em coming
By Yaron on 7/16/2009 2:49:02 PM , Rating: 3
Where is Pirks?
:P


RE: Keep 'em coming
By PhoenixKnight on 7/16/2009 3:23:00 PM , Rating: 5
He's got his head too far up Steve Jobs' ass right now to notice.


RE: Keep 'em coming
By sprockkets on 7/16/2009 5:45:44 PM , Rating: 5
You need to come up with something better than that. That's been overused, and I think I'm the first one who said that.

How about, "He was the one who graciously donated his liver so that Jobs could live."


RE: Keep 'em coming
By Zensen on 7/16/2009 3:00:14 PM , Rating: 2
also it seems they've been spewing some crap about their sales beating expectations in regarding shipments as opposed to pc trends.

http://www.macuser.co.uk/news/262240/mac-sales-upm...


$1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By segerstein on 7/16/2009 8:58:25 AM , Rating: 1
That would be a fair comparison - a) what you can get for a certain amount of money or b) what a certain kind of specs if going to cost you.

Just compare a $1500 HP Elitebook vs $1500 Mac.




RE: $1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By mofo3k on 7/16/2009 9:25:59 AM , Rating: 3
Or they could show a person in their commercials that wants a $500 laptop. They could walk up to the $999 13" macbook and say "Wow, I could buy 2 pc's for the price of this".


RE: $1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By Belard on 7/16/2009 9:39:55 AM , Rating: 5
And

Wow! $1500 for a 15" iBook Pro! I could buy two PC notebooks with 17" displays and still have enough dough for some lap dances at the titty bar!


RE: $1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By retrospooty on 7/16/2009 9:57:07 AM , Rating: 5
"Wow! $1500 for a 15" iBook Pro! I could buy two PC notebooks with 17" displays and still have enough dough for some lap dances at the titty bar!"

then you better get a webcam too =)


RE: $1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By segerstein on 7/16/2009 11:46:03 AM , Rating: 4
The usual argument goes that $1500 Apple has better specs and is better built than a $600 PC.

But the real question should be:
- who is the best provider for the specs you want;
or
- what is the best deal I can get for a certain amount of money ($600 or $1500).

I'm sure that $1500 HP Elitebook beats $1500 Mac ;)


RE: $1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By retrospooty on 7/16/2009 9:57:10 AM , Rating: 3
"Wow! $1500 for a 15" iBook Pro! I could buy two PC notebooks with 17" displays and still have enough dough for some lap dances at the titty bar!"

then you better get a webcam too =)


RE: $1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By Mitch101 on 7/16/2009 9:52:27 AM , Rating: 5
Actually its not because not everyone has a $1500.00/$999.00 budget especially just to run Apples linux distro.

I can buy a $350.00 laptop that I'm sure would be more than adequate to run the Apple OS today. Surely it would run any other flavor of Linux/BSD or Windows but why does Apple require $1500.00/$999.00 laptop hardware? Because that's how they make their money and that's fine if you have the money and want an Apple.

As for $350.00 laptop quality there seem to be plenty of people very happy with them. The price drops might be that netbooks are cutting into the laptop market and prices are dropping on notebooks or it could be that they are just cheaper to make today than they were just a few years ago.

I don't believe you need to spend a high amount of money to get a quality PC today. After all a basic PC in my early days were over $3000.00 for the basic PC and quality was much worse than today's PC's. I believe that Laptops are finally breaking the sub $500.00 price barriers for quality units but Apple doesn't want you to believe that you can get a quality laptop for less than $999.00.


RE: $1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By oab on 7/16/2009 10:38:40 AM , Rating: 1
Apples do *NOT* run a linux distro.

The OSX underpinnings (Darwin) uses the Mach microkernel crossed with FreeBSD (mixed with I/O Kit).

Linux is a postix compliant knock-off of unix/minix.
FreeBSD is based on BSD, which itself was a re-writing of the original AT&T Unix (licensed by AT&T).


RE: $1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By Mitch101 on 7/16/2009 11:03:44 AM , Rating: 5
When I hit post I caught that. My Bad.

FreeBSD would certainly run on a $350.00 laptop.

Whatever you do dont tell a BSD person it looks just like Linux. Especially around any sharp objects.


RE: $1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By Chocobollz on 7/17/2009 5:04:32 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Whatever you do dont tell a BSD person it looks just like Linux. Especially around any sharp objects.

Why? Is it because of they would stab me or that they would kill themselves? :P


RE: $1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By Belard on 7/16/2009 11:51:31 AM , Rating: 2
Don't forget that AmigaOS from 1985~1995 was based off a unix. Thus, the first "GUI" Unix. Many Unix functions removed (not needed for a PC, back then)- but retained multi-tasking. Very cool.


RE: $1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By Jimbo1234 on 7/16/2009 1:33:59 PM , Rating: 2
There was a specific unix model even, the A3000UX.


RE: $1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By Belard on 7/17/2009 5:32:28 AM , Rating: 2
I still have my Amiga3000. Its 3x the weight of my desktop.

But no, I was referring to AmigaOS itself.

An interesting little tidbit. The Amiga3000's 32bit Zorro slots from 1989 are still FASTER (and PnP before PnP had a name) than todays PCI slots. Enough that when SCSI HD manufactures wanted to show HOW fast their drives were, the Amiga 3000 was used.

Ah, if only A real company got their hands on Amiga Tech rather than C=. They wasted time & $$ on R&D and including PC-ISA slot in their desktops... for which FEW people actually bothered with. Idiots.


RE: $1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By segerstein on 7/16/2009 11:56:33 AM , Rating: 5
OS X is just a GUI manager, similar to GNOME/KDE running on a variety of *nix systems.

Actually Apple's "Macs" are PCs by every meaning of the word, since they natively run Windows. They just have a special purposely incompatible BIOS (EFI) so that OS X x86 cannot run without minor modifications on other PCs.


RE: $1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By FITCamaro on 7/16/2009 4:49:54 PM , Rating: 2
So what happens when Windows starts supporting that type of BIOS and boards with it become more prevalent? Apple will probably change to something else.


RE: $1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By sprockkets on 7/16/2009 5:40:06 PM , Rating: 2
I haven't read all the details of EFI, simply because I haven't found one yet outside of Macs, but some by their posts here suggest that drivers for OSX are built into EFI (you have to update the EFI firmware to update drivers), and that is why Windows needs BootCamp and a BIOS backup implementation to work properly, even if Vista 64 bit SP1 supports EFI booting (again need more info).

I'm also skeptical about needing EFI to have Mac's power saving abilities, since people with MSI Wind Netbooks also got an hour extra battery life with Hackint0sh, and Atom processors have no support for power savings in OSX.

Even though Intel Boards are using BIOS, they seem to operate in EFI ways. When you activate the upgrade in windows, it reboots to a black screen for about 20 seconds, then shuts down, restarts, and the BIOS is updated. It doesn't do any of the usual erasing and flashing while in Windows like others do. I haven't run into any other boards that update like that.


RE: $1500 Mac vs $1500PC
By segerstein on 7/16/2009 6:48:36 PM , Rating: 2
Itanium runs with EFI. It's not that Windows won't run on Apple's PCs, it's OS X they don't want to run on other PCs.

This means purposely creating incompatibilities, like stopping iTunes to work with Palm Pre.

It's time for regulators to take a bite in the apple!


Wow those Apple computers are cool...
By geekman1024 on 7/16/2009 12:06:59 PM , Rating: 5
But will they run Crysis?
...
What?! They don't even HAVE Crysis?




By Chernobyl68 on 7/16/2009 1:13:23 PM , Rating: 2
LOL


RE: Wow those Apple computers are cool...
By xDrift0rx on 7/16/2009 1:20:55 PM , Rating: 2
as to the post way above about a good mac commercial.

PC: Hey mac (guns shooting in background)

Mac: hey PC, what cha got there?

PC: Oh this is my brand new gaming computer, new Intel core i7, 6gb triple channel memory and GTX 285s in SLi! Man I love the latest hardware out there. Oh and this is the new Crysis game, looks great doesn't it? (more shooting)

MAC: yea PC...sure looks...great... (goes back to his mac and starts playing Oregon trail)


RE: Wow those Apple computers are cool...
By FITCamaro on 7/16/2009 4:50:45 PM , Rating: 4
Your wagon tipped over while attempting to ford the river.
You have lost 350 pounds of food and Kenny has died.


By captainBOB on 7/16/2009 9:54:03 PM , Rating: 4
OMG!!! They killed Kenny!!!! :-)


By Hotdogah on 7/17/2009 2:17:22 PM , Rating: 2
Oregon Trail, wow that sums up my mac memories, at school and at my grandmas, that was the only game.


By Maiyr on 7/17/2009 2:07:33 AM , Rating: 2
Oh my gosh ! Oregon trail ! Man that brings back memories. 5 1/4 inch floppies, lol


RE: Wow those Apple computers are cool...
By jmurbank on 7/17/09, Rating: 0
By sprockkets on 7/18/2009 5:32:02 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
A better comparison between PC and Mac is VALUE. Macs have more value at the time of getting it in your hands and then to the end. Apple provides better customer support and their stores makes it easier for those that do not want to wait on the phone to get some help. Apple has created a community like the Linux community that provides help. PC has no value since you have to pay to get support. Overall PC might be cheaper but they are the most expensive on the time of first using them and then to the end.


Plenty of Dell support plans that answer you in less than 5 minutes and are in the US. And Apple never sends a person to your house to repair stuff while Dell does.

In the end, both end up costing you something - Apple just requires you paying it whether you want it or not.


By foolsgambit11 on 7/20/2009 4:56:11 AM , Rating: 1
SLI may not be necessary for game playing, but it sure comes in handy for Crysis. More than the extra 8 logical cores of the high-end MBP, I'm guessing. At a certain point, most games can't really spawn enough CPU threads to take advantage of all the resources you can throw at them. There are certainly workloads where 16 threads will come in handy, though. And some of those workloads (like graphic design) are traditional Mac strongholds, which is why Apple has the dual Xeon MBP option (for a very reasonable price, I might add). But for gaming, 2x GTX 285s will give you a better boost than 2x Xeons.


Paraphrasing at its best.
By therealnickdanger on 7/16/2009 9:01:32 AM , Rating: 2
News flash! Microsoft's Turner says he was recently contacted by Apples legal department. "And they were all like 'Not cool brah, we brought down our prices, you bettah be spittin' dem truths, yo!' and I be all like 'Aw, hells no!'"

Also, you might want to fix this: between who?
quote:
The battle between Microsoft has been a long and arduous one.




RE: Paraphrasing at its best.
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 7/16/2009 9:02:39 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks, it's been fixed.


RE: Paraphrasing at its best.
By therealnickdanger on 7/16/2009 10:26:01 AM , Rating: 2
Or would the question be "between whom"? I always suck at that.


RE: Paraphrasing at its best.
By MozeeToby on 7/16/2009 12:11:54 PM , Rating: 4
It's the same rule as using 'I' vs 'me'. If you can replace the word with 'he' use 'who', if you can replace the word with 'him' use 'whom'. So in this case, 'the battle between him and someone else' is right, so it would be whom.


RE: Paraphrasing at its best.
By Hieyeck on 7/17/2009 11:44:16 AM , Rating: 2
Grammar Nazis. The one chance Nazis get to be awesome.

protip btw. Learn something new everyday.


RE: Paraphrasing at its best.
By sxr7171 on 7/18/2009 9:36:19 AM , Rating: 2
Just because you slept through 3rd grade English class doesn't mean everyone else should have.


RE: Paraphrasing at its best.
By achintya on 7/17/2009 4:00:49 PM , Rating: 2
What's the difference between a duck? :D


Don't think so
By VoodooChicken on 7/16/2009 9:48:13 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
"The one thing that both Apple and Microsoft can agree on is that everyone thinks the Mac is cool."


um... no.

I really did try to give the mac a fair shake, but I just do not like it. I don't even like the shape, the color scheme, I especially hate their "classic" keyboards and mice, I hate their interface, I am just completely allergic to macs. I never even liked the iPod. I've owned almost EVERY alternate to the iPod (expect Zune), but again, iPod just doesn't float my boat.




RE: Don't think so
By xDrift0rx on 7/16/2009 9:59:02 AM , Rating: 5
im just about all there with you, except i do happen to like their mobile devices...they are nicely made. the only downside is you have to use their stupid itunes software that runs like shit. of course they code it horribly for windows so that if you do anything at all from within the program, nothing else works (cant move the window, etc.)


RE: Don't think so
By lagomorpha on 7/16/2009 10:22:28 AM , Rating: 5
Then there's the irreplaceable batteries that burn out, their ability to disable iphone apps they find distasteful or that compete with their own future software...

As far as I can tell Apple actively despises the yuppie idiots that buy their products and actively tries to give them the worst experience possible.

"A PC is no bargain when it doesn't do what you want. The one thing that both Apple and Microsoft can agree on is that everyone thinks the Mac is cool. With its great designs and advanced software, nothing matches it at any price."

I don't even know where to start. A PC does everything I want, a Mac does NOT run all the software/hardware I need. The only people that think a Mac is cool are people easily swayed by advertising (idiots). I've yet to see any great designs or advanced software out of Apple.


Glass houses
By Cront on 7/16/2009 9:27:23 AM , Rating: 5
What was that saying about glass houses? lol.