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Apple has a wakeup call as Android-based smartphones grab market share in Q1

DailyTech has been reporting on Google's meteoric rise in smartphone market share for quite some time now, but we didn't expect to hear the numbers that are coming from the NPD Group today with regards to Android's place in the hot sector. NPD says that unit sales for Android-based devices bolted past Apple iPhone devices for the first quarter in the U.S.

According to NPD, Android-based devices accounted for 28 percent of the smartphone market while smartphones running Apple's iPhone OS garnered just 21 percent of the market. Both, however, were well behind RIM which still commands 36 percent of the market.

"As in the past, carrier distribution and promotion have played a crucial role in determining smartphone market share," said NPD's Ross Rubin. "In order to compete with the iPhone, Verizon Wireless has expanded its buy-one-get-one offer beyond RIM devices to now include all of their smartphones."

It should be noted that there are numerous Android-based smartphones on the U.S. market compared to relatively few iPhone models. When it comes to the Android sector, there are many choices including the Droid, Droid Eris, Nexus One, Backflip, and the Droid Incredible (which wouldn't be accounted for in NPD's numbers) among others.

The iPhone, however, is only currently available as the 8GB iPhone 3G (the last generation model) along with the 16GB and 32GB iPhone 3GS.

In addition to the wealth of differing smartphone designs on the Android side of things, users who pick Android-based phones have a number of wireless carriers to choose as well including Verizon, T-Mobile, and AT&T in the U.S. Apple's iPhone, however, is artificially limited to AT&T's network fresh from the factory -- you can, however, unlock the iPhone using a software hack and use it on T-Mobile's network albeit without 3G connectivity.

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They are upon us...
By MrBlastman on 5/10/2010 10:38:04 AM , Rating: 2
Even the Apples are turning into Androids nowadays. I guess the i-Roids must be fuming at the bits knowing they might be... unplugged. :)

RE: They are upon us...
By Brandon Hill on 5/10/2010 10:41:37 AM , Rating: 4
I'm sure reader1 will be upon us soon :)

RE: They are upon us...
By RjBass on 5/10/2010 10:45:20 AM , Rating: 2
I'm surprised he hasn't already.

RE: They are upon us...
By frobizzle on 5/12/2010 9:04:30 AM , Rating: 2
I am convinced that reader1 is actually a handle Jobs is using to post here.

Pirks, on the other hand, is just a troll living in his mother's basement and using his shiny new iPad.

RE: They are upon us...
By Shadowself on 5/10/2010 2:38:59 PM , Rating: 2
Apple really does not care about the individual hacked iPhones. Who, in their right mind (other than just to prove you can do it), will pay the price for an iPhone and then turn it into an Android phone? How many of those will there be? 10? 100? 1,000? Compared to the millions of iPhones Apple has gotten people to buy these numbers don't matter.

If people want an Android phone there are much, much better and simpler (and less expensive!) ways to do one than buying an iPhone and hacking it.

RE: They are upon us...
By RjBass on 5/10/2010 3:16:51 PM , Rating: 2
Errr I don't agree. I have two older iPhones sitting on a shelf collecting dust. It will be nice to turn them into Android based phones and get them up on Verizon's network. Then when that happens, I can give them to my kids so that they have flash compatible, multitasking smart phones without the Nazi like Apple OS and bad AT&T network.

RE: They are upon us...
By JasonMick on 5/10/2010 3:56:53 PM , Rating: 2
Errr I don't agree. I have two older iPhones sitting on a shelf collecting dust. It will be nice to turn them into Android based phones and get them up on Verizon's network.

I commend your spirit as I think the whole iPhone/Android port idea is awesome, but unfortunately I have to be the bearer of bad news in informing you that your old iPhones won't be compatible with Verizon (or Sprint) because they're GSM phones, and Verizon is a CDMA network (a different technology).

You could, however, use them as Android phones on T-Mobile in the U.S. or Rogers in Canada, so all is not lost. :)

RE: They are upon us...
By RjBass on 5/10/2010 10:19:31 PM , Rating: 2
T-Mobile it is then. However I doubt that phone reception will be much better then AT&T.

RE: They are upon us...
By corduroygt on 5/11/2010 6:06:02 PM , Rating: 2
You won't be able to use 3G on Tmobile on the iphone, since T-mobile, in their entire wisdom, use a 3G network that's different from everyone else in the world.

RE: They are upon us...
By RunninBad254 on 5/13/2010 1:51:56 PM , Rating: 2
Wrong, AT&T uses the 1900 frequency for 3g coverage, While T-Mobile and 99% of the world uses the more common frequency of 2100. AT&T is a huge failure of a carrier and should be recognized as such. Using a proprietary band for 3g to limit carrier to carrier customer crossovers should be CRIMINAL.

RE: They are upon us...
By corduroygt on 5/14/2010 1:11:08 AM , Rating: 1
You fail...

T-mobile does not use the same 2100 band Europe uses for 3G, they use the 1700Mhz AWS band that no one else except a small carrier in Canada uses. Embarassment like this is what you'll get when you post without knowing anything.

1900 Band is used throughout North and South America, AT&T does many things wrong but this is not one of them.

Here's your proof:

* Band I (W-CDMA 2100) in Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia (all carriers' metropolitan networks), New Zealand (ITU Region 1) and Brazil (part of ITU Region 2)
* Band II (W-CDMA 1900) in North America and South America (ITU Region 2)
* Band IV (W-CDMA 1700 or Advanced Wireless Services) in the United States (T-Mobile USA) and Canada (WIND Mobile)

T-mobile fails for using the shitty AWS band that no one else uses.

Oh my.
By Pitbull0669 on 5/10/2010 11:34:47 AM , Rating: 3
Well i did try the Incredible. LOVE IT! Wow just wow.

Very good review and not Bias at all. so go check it out. AND VERY true.

RE: Oh my.
By Abrahmm on 5/10/2010 11:58:28 AM , Rating: 4
I found the fact that they rated the iPhone 3GS and the Droid Incredible so close together to be laughable at best, and somewhat suspicious simply from knowing the Apple bias CNET tends to show. The Droid Incredible demolishes the iPhone in nearly every regard. That review doesn't do the Incredible justice.

RE: Oh my.
By Pitbull0669 on 5/10/2010 12:08:10 PM , Rating: 2
I agree. I Know Cnet is TOTALY Apple whores! lol. so to see them showing it beating the Iphone is just all that much And I agree the review doest do it justice! ;)

RE: Oh my.
By corduroygt on 5/11/2010 6:17:04 PM , Rating: 2
Really, I read that review and the HTC won because it had more features (because it was newer doh) and because of verizon being superior to AT&T. Let's see how they fared in one area nerds don't get: Usability

All that said, Sense is a little more involved in terms of setup than the iPhone's OS.
But there's still a learning curve that geeks will like but my mom will hate.
However, there is definitely a learning curve involved here; I feel like there are more layers of complexity.

It's been said many times before, but the ease of use of the iPhone is unmatched. To riff on the Geico commercials, it's so easy a caveman could do it.
Still easy as pie and the cleanest OS to use, but power users will get a little tired and will want more control.
The second you power it on, you know where everything is no digging around for drop-down menus, etc

The more successful people have better things to do with their time than to configure their phones. That's one thing Apple haters will never get, and keep wondering as Apple makes billions while companies like Palm are on life support.

Wait a sec!
By Mathue on 5/10/10, Rating: 0
RE: Wait a sec!
By lightfoot on 5/10/2010 1:59:13 PM , Rating: 4
And a lot of the iFans were saying then that "Apple is not a monopoly, the government shouldn't be involved. Let the market decide."

It appears that the market is deciding. And the market doesn't seem to like Apple's monopolistic and anti-competitive practices.

RE: Wait a sec!
By Shadowself on 5/10/2010 2:51:55 PM , Rating: 2
Clearly Apple has no control over the market as people are preferring other options and indeed buying other options. Also Apple does not have a commanding market share with two other vendors having a greater share while Apple only has a 21% share in total. By any stretch of the imagination Apple does not have a monopoly here and thus cannot persue monopolistic practices.

Also the competition seems to be quite obviously beating Apple. At least two vendors have a larger maket share. Thus saying Apple has "anti-competitive practices" is irrelevant in any legal sense since its actions are completely ineffectual. If a butcher says he won't sell any beef not raised on his own farm but the vast majority of the people buy from the two or three butchers down the street the butcher's position hurts no one but those dumb enough to buy from that butcher. It's their choice to be dumb and buy a limited product from an also ran supplier.

RE: Wait a sec!
By afkrotch on 5/11/2010 12:55:03 AM , Rating: 3
Apple has the monopoly on iPhones and what goes on them. Yes, you can go elsewhere to get a smartphone. But...their monopolistic practices of what can/cannot go on the iPhone is an unfair and uncompetitive practice.

Rotten Apple
By dam13n on 5/10/2010 11:21:03 AM , Rating: 3
Newton saw Apple fall...He ain't gonna be the only one.We are all gonna see Apple fall.

RE: Rotten Apple
By icanhascpu on 5/10/2010 5:04:39 PM , Rating: 2
Yup, apple is doomed!! They should be going out of business anytime now...

RE: Rotten Apple
By seamonkey79 on 5/11/2010 4:37:31 PM , Rating: 2
I remember people saying that 11 years ago. Heck, I was one of them.

...and along came the iPod...

Both phones are great
By Mitch101 on 5/10/2010 10:50:12 AM , Rating: 2
Both phones are great. This really is a carrier war first and a minor war when you consider open applications. The first thing I do hear is I can play youtube on my droid.

Not sure how much Apple gets from AT&T exclusive deal but right now I'm sure they are wondering if it was the right move. I wouldn't be surprised if we see an altered version of the iPhone they could sell to all carriers without them claiming they are violating their exclusivity deal with AT&T.

RE: Both phones are great
By mcnabney on 5/10/2010 8:06:53 PM , Rating: 2
The deal is understood to include favorable device pricing as well as a share of the data revenue that AT&T charges. Apple gets to keep everything it makes from the iStore. To be more accurate, AT&T is Apple's Bi%@ch.

don't use acronyms.
By travb on 5/10/10, Rating: 0
RE: don't use acronyms.
By travb on 5/10/2010 1:08:54 PM , Rating: 2
NPD Group, according to wikipedia:

The NPD Group, Inc. (formerly National Purchase Diary) is a leading North American market research company[1] founded in 1967 and provides consumer and retail information to manufacturers and retailers.

Sad when readers have to do the work of reporters.

RE: don't use acronyms.
By Alexstarfire on 5/10/2010 2:13:59 PM , Rating: 2
Everyone here, except for you it seems, already knew what the group was. It's been used countless times before throughout the years.

Now it's Android Killer
By techer on 5/10/2010 11:12:49 AM , Rating: 2
I guess we can all stop the iPhone killer term? The new phrase is "Android Killer" .

I think it's valid
By code4life on 5/10/2010 12:39:33 PM , Rating: 2
The analysis is valid from a Google vs Apple perspective. Google has many android phone partners, so makes sense to see if Google's share of the market is rising or not.

It was bound to happend
By msheredy on 5/10/2010 6:04:45 PM , Rating: 2
Especially when you buy one [Android] and get one free. It's really no surprise other than the fact that it took so long for Android to pass them up.

Heres my take
By jojo29 on 5/10/2010 4:58:59 PM , Rating: 1
Well, im not a regular here on DT, but here goes my 2 cents:
I've had the opportunity to play and mess with both phones pretty extensively. I really dug the sleek nature and smooth experience of the iPhone. Its a really well designed and easy to use phone. In my area though, ATT is shit. Needless to say, i had to switch.

I joined Verizon RIGHT as the Moto Droid was launching. I got a Droid at launch. Its been one helluva FUN time so far. I LOVE the ability to change backgrounds ( which OS4 will have on iphone but I DIDN"T get ot enjoy that feature) i love the whole open customization of the Droid. The droids TS is pretty accurate, NO MORE or LESS accurate than the iPhone, IMO<---i've used both and so far NEVER have i said : "i wish the droid was as smooth as the iphone" NEVER. Now, the Droid does have some choppiness to it, which can affect the TS, but the TS itself is pretty spot on.

BUT, remember the only reason the Android phones have a bit of a choppiness to them is because you can multi-task with them.

Anywhoo, bottom-line is, BOTH phones are great to use, but i can understand the negativity from both camps, as that is directly related to how they sell their phones

On one hand you have Apple's iPhone, closed-platform, using proprietary software/hardware. I DO NOT miss having to sync to a computer in order to add music to my phone. I do miss the "easy to use" interface at times...In terms of market share and why Apple lost this quarter: Its apple's own damn fault for limiting themselves to just one carrier, you can't blame the reports or android and say "well they have more phones and carriers" Guess what? That is exactly how Google was going into the smartphone business, with many devices using its OS over many carriers. Guess what? Its working.

Apple went into the smartphone business with 2 model phones over one carrier. Guess what? That worked too!!!

BUT, i will say, this: Google is mopping the floor with Apple, as is apparent in these recent reports. DESPITE NOT having a unified OS, as apple would have you believe, DESPITE coming into the smartphone market that now has an established iPhone, DESPITE Jobs' idiot claims about open source, Google NOT only managed to knock down and gain market share from apple, it is quickly making a name for itself as a lot of my friends are now talking up Android phones...I love that Google gives me options.

BUT, not all is gloom and doom. Apple, really, they have their next phone refresh coming up...BAM! Thats instant market share gain...BUT, all really Apple has to do, is release the iPhone on ALL carriers, THEN we will see how ALL OTHER smartphones holdup. This is pretty scary though, if Apple is able to sell and GAIN and KEEP market share, DESPITE only being on ONE carrier...imagine how many sales if released on ALL carriers??

BUT, its not all peachy. Rumors have come out Apple is stuck with ATT till next year..guess what that means? yup another year of Android/iPhone duking it for market share, NOT including what the others bring out and we still have an unsung OS coming out: Mobile 7...

Next year will be a more interesting year as it will pretty much be the Royal Rumble of smartphones...

invalid analysis
By mfconnelly on 5/10/10, Rating: -1
RE: invalid analysis
By Abrahmm on 5/10/2010 11:23:41 AM , Rating: 5
Platform is everything, the same way Windows and OS X market shares are compared. The platform determines what you can and can't do with a phone. The fact that the iPhone platform is only available on two phones is completely Apple's fault. Frankly, I'm glad to see an open platform garnering so much success.

RE: invalid analysis
By icanhascpu on 5/10/10, Rating: -1
RE: invalid analysis
By nafhan on 5/10/10, Rating: 0
RE: invalid analysis
By nonseq on 5/10/10, Rating: -1
RE: invalid analysis
By StevoLincolnite on 5/10/2010 1:14:27 PM , Rating: 3
Alright hows about a bit of a history lesson.

In the "Golden Days" of 3D gaming, a company known as "3dfx" held the majority of the market share, however like nVidia and ATI it sold it's chips to 3rd party board manufacturers.

They were on top of the ladder.

Then they decided to become more "Closed". - What they did is bought STB and decided to only sell cards themselves, where did the 3rd party board manufacturers go? To nVidia, ATI, S3 etc'.

Glide's entrenchment on the market wasn't enough to stop people from going elsewhere and looking for better/cheaper/more widely available alternatives, and it seems in the phone market history is just repeating on what has already happened previously in another segment of the tech industry.

RE: invalid analysis
By Drag0nFire on 5/10/2010 1:08:52 PM , Rating: 4
As much as I prefer Android... the study has more serious flaws when put in the context of a "wake up call for Apple". It's common knowledge that Apple will releases new iPhones in June. Most of those who want an iPhone will buy it in the 6 months after release. Since we all know Apple's marketing strategy ( ), it only makes sense to wait for the next release in June.

Android, on the other hand, has had continuous releases since last fall. A more meaningful study would be on the scale of a year.

RE: invalid analysis
By mcnabney on 5/10/2010 8:10:36 PM , Rating: 2
Almost all of those purchasing the next version of iPhone will just be replacing an existing iPhone - essentially sales without growth in market share. 99.99% of Droid sales are coming from another O/S or are new to the format entirely. Most of Android's growth is being take out of Microsoft (yeah!) with some coming from Palm and RIM. Only a little from Apple due to contracts and the fact that a large percentage of the iPhone users are zombies.

Market Share Means No Profit
By jbelkin on 5/10/10, Rating: -1
RE: Market Share Means No Profit
By jabberwolf on 5/10/2010 1:03:45 PM , Rating: 2
Hmmm I remember a small company that gave away DOS for free... called Microsoft. I wonder what ever happened with them?!?!

RE: Market Share Means No Profit
By Mogounus on 5/10/2010 1:16:29 PM , Rating: 2
Sounds like you are another deluded iFan. First off Google is definately set out to make money on Android just not with the same revenue model. They are looking for ad revenue. Secondly, you must be absolutely out of your mind if you think Apple does not care. The lawsuit against HTC is already proof enought that they are very concerned. Apple may not care if Google makes a profit or not but they very do much care if the Android platform is seriously competing with theirs and is impacting the number of $700 phones they can sell.

RE: Market Share Means No Profit
By mcnabney on 5/10/2010 8:12:59 PM , Rating: 2
Google's involvement with Android has already become a profit center. That was quick.

RE: Market Share Means No Profit
By tech4tac on 5/10/2010 1:20:10 PM , Rating: 3
More importantly, Google makes ZERO on each phone sold and probably actually costs them money so far.

Not directly off the equipment sales, but Google makes an obscene amount of money from every phone loaded with Android. Every time you use the nifty search bar on the home screen, Google gets paid through advertisers (if I can have just 1% of the advertising revenue generated by all the Android phones, I'd be set for life). Even after paying Apple millions to be the default search engine on iPhones & iPods, all the searches generated makes it a very lucrative deal for Google (so much in fact that Apple is considering make their own search engine just for their iProducts). Every time you buy something off Android Market Place, Google gets a cut. The entire bases of Google success has been to give away something useful for free (or next to nothing) and make money indirectly.

Bottom line - they are 2 very successful business with different business models.

RE: Market Share Means No Profit
By Alexstarfire on 5/10/10, Rating: 0
RE: Market Share Means No Profit
By afkrotch on 5/11/2010 1:44:11 AM , Rating: 2
I think O² sells unlocked iPhones for $800 (after you convert from Euro). Course, in the US, the price has never been that high.

By Alexstarfire on 5/11/2010 2:19:04 PM , Rating: 2
Unlocked phones can't count since Apple doesn't sell them. That'd be like saying Microsoft or Nintendo made $1000 per console when then first launched. Everyone wanted one and not everyone could get them. On eBay they went for upwards of $1000, probably more.

RE: Market Share Means No Profit
By Bateluer on 5/11/2010 9:38:47 PM , Rating: 1
You information is highly inaccurate. There are currently only 3 versions of Android floating around, 1.5, 1.6, and 2.1. There are no 1.0 devices out there any more that haven't been upgraded, the sole 2.0.1 device was upgraded to 2.1, and the remaining 2.0 devices all have 2.1 upgrades in the pipeline.

They all share the same Android Market store and the majority of apps will work on all three revisions, with a few exceptions due to newer features and capabilities of the newer revisions.

Google doesn't make money on the handset sold, that is true. However, each Android device sold generates ad revenue for Google, very effectively generating them profit.

Make no mistake
By corduroygt on 5/10/10, Rating: -1
RE: Make no mistake
By MrBlastman on 5/10/2010 10:58:41 AM , Rating: 2
still offers the best user experience of any phone.

Being forced to use Apple approved applications in an Apple-run store is the best user experience ever?


I'll take open platforms over Apple, any day.

RE: Make no mistake
By xler8r on 5/10/2010 11:12:04 AM , Rating: 2
I'll second you. In addition, I feel the silent majority of people doesn't really give much thought about Apple at all, only prosumers and trend/fasion minded individuals.

RE: Make no mistake
By sebmel on 5/10/10, Rating: 0
RE: Make no mistake
By 229mike on 5/10/2010 12:54:10 PM , Rating: 1
Open sourced doesn't mean a better experience where u are merely opened to a bunch of beta running crap opposed to more of a quality standard. Not that I don't appreciate more options w/ a phone but apple's phone does everything that android does now only smoother w/ better graphics w/ a promising update in June! Boooyah!

RE: Make no mistake
By Abrahmm on 5/10/2010 2:23:40 PM , Rating: 2
"apple's phone does everything that android does now only smoother w/ better graphics w/ a promising update in June! Boooyah!"

Really? If the iPhone does everything Android does, then why are most of the iPhone OS 4.0 "new" features stuff Android already does, and will continue to do better?

Facts and iBots don't mix.

RE: Make no mistake
By Alexstarfire on 5/10/2010 2:23:00 PM , Rating: 2
And yet my 3 year old phone is still doing things that even iPhone OS 4.0 can't do. Since Android phones can do everything my phone can do I'm going to say that you are wrong on your statement.

RE: Make no mistake
By corduroygt on 5/10/2010 1:29:44 PM , Rating: 2
Even without any applications, it's better to use, but I guess I forgot you can't praise any Apple product on DT.

It's easier to make a call, send an e-mail, take a video and upload to youtube, take picture and attach it to an e-mail on the iphone. First thing you do when you look at an android phone is to figure out how to unlock the screen, something as simple as a swipe on the iphone. You have multiple buttons and need to find out what each one exactly does, etc.

Most people don't bother to read the use manual for something as trivial as a phone. I bought many phones for my parents in the past, the iphone is the only one they bothered to check their emails or surf the web on it, although the others were capable of all these tasks as well.

RE: Make no mistake
By Alexstarfire on 5/10/2010 2:31:26 PM , Rating: 2
You sir are rather dumb if you can't figure out most features on a phone without a manual. I've used my friends' MyTouch a few times and unlocking it is easy. True, no swiping, but that doesn't make it hard. Sending, or uploading, a picture/video only takes like 2-3 clicks after it is taken.

Ohh well, I guess some people aren't meant to use their brains. And how is making a call any easier? It's easy as hell on EVERY phone. Actually, I'd argue that smartphones can make dialing a number a bit more difficult, but not a lot.

RE: Make no mistake
By corduroygt on 5/10/2010 2:45:57 PM , Rating: 2
Given enough time, anyone can figure out all the features of a phone. In the iphone, this time is minimized because tasks are accomplished in the most intuitive way possible.
No swiping doesn't make it hard, it just makes it less intuitive and less pleasant to use.

RE: Make no mistake
By Abrahmm on 5/10/2010 3:42:08 PM , Rating: 2
Any substance to back up those claims or just going to rely on them being subjective in order to justify them? I could just as easily say that Android does thing the most intuitive way possible and is therefore easier to use than the iPhone.

RE: Make no mistake
By corduroygt on 5/10/2010 10:08:22 PM , Rating: 2
Only numbers. They were the only smartphone I have ever witnessed to be usable by older and less tech savvy people just as well as young people.

I have also tried out an Android phone at the verizon store, and I was seriously underwhelmed, for starters, which of the 5 buttons to push to unlock the screen. There is only one button to turn the screen on and what you need to do is displayed brightly on the screen.

Also the majority of people aren't geeks who need to do every little task they can do with their computer on their phones. Web, e-mail, music and occasional gaming is all I need mine for.

RE: Make no mistake
By afkrotch on 5/11/2010 1:31:40 AM , Rating: 2
Only numbers. They were the only smartphone I have ever witnessed to be usable by older and less tech savvy people just as well as young people.

Only numbers? WTF is that suppose to mean? Only your numbers matter?

RE: Make no mistake
By Abrahmm on 5/11/2010 9:57:15 AM , Rating: 2
I guess you haven't gotten the hint yet. I was subtly pointing out that your argument has absolutely no legs to stand on and you should probably quit before you make yourself out to be a fool. Too late.

RE: Make no mistake
By corduroygt on 5/11/2010 4:38:25 PM , Rating: 2
21% of US marketshare with an old product on a single crappy carrier sold with no incentives isn't proof enough?

How about the most software revenue of any smartphone ever?

They could easily beat android if they did a BOGO like the others, their share would go from 21% to over 30%.

It's obvious Apple is doing something others aren't, and that's having a better user experience for the majority of owners out there.

RE: Make no mistake
By Alexstarfire on 5/10/2010 3:58:17 PM , Rating: 2
IMO swiping is far less intuitive than hitting a button. Of course, anyone who can read should be able to figure it out in 1-2 seconds regardless of how the phone is set up to unlock. In my short time using both Android (G1, MyTouch, and Nexus One) and iPhone(2G, 3G, and 3GS) I can say that Android has been more intuitive. That's not to say either was very difficult, but it seemed to me that the way Android set things up was a bit easier than the latter. Could change after iPhone 4.0 comes out, if it's not already, but I doubt it. If anything I think it'll make things less intuitive. I saw a couple screens of it and it seems to have added a lot of little features that are mostly useless and only serve to get in the way while trying to configure the phone.

RE: Make no mistake
By jojo29 on 5/10/2010 5:31:42 PM , Rating: 2
sorry dude but your wrong on this. NOW, everyone knows how to use an iPhone, i remember when they first rolled out, and my friend got one, he would give it to pay to check it and most people asked how to unlock it...sorry, but the same can be said about the Adroid, actually now its even easier, since Apple did bring out the most intuitive TS FIRST, now all people have to say is, "just swipe it like the iphone" and voila lol

BUT, you CAN say this: Apple's iPhone/UI Interface is a lot more user friendly, and thus, easier to use quickly. <--This is what Apple is great at doing.

BUT, i can also say, once you figure out all the features your iPhone can do, and whatnot, theres not much else an iPhone can do...also, you NEED a computer in order to put music on the iPhone, you need a computer in order rename/add/delete playlists ( Unless there is an app that does that im not sure )

On my droid though, i never would need to have a computer, i think i've hooked it up to a computer once...and that was because i only had the usb part of my charger in order to charge it. Droid literally lets you do everything, i can DL music DIRECTLY to my phone, change the filename, add it to a custom playlist..etc...and thats just the begining..

RE: Make no mistake
By bplewis24 on 5/10/2010 11:17:51 AM , Rating: 3
Then you are kidding yourself. The iPhone OS isn't a better user experience than WebOS, let alone Android 2.xx.


RE: Make no mistake
By Abrahmm on 5/10/2010 11:21:45 AM , Rating: 3
It's always funny to watch how when an Apple product falls short in every tangible metric when compared to the competition, the Apple defender will always fall back onto the intangible "user experience" to claim how the iPhone is still better, even when it has worse technical specs, lacks many features, and is still completely controlled and locked down by Apple.

I've used the iPhone and it is nowhere near as intuitive to use as Android, which still offers the best user experience of any phone.

See how easy that is? You can't tell me what I said is wrong because its completely subjective, even though I believe what I just claimed.

RE: Make no mistake
By xti on 5/10/2010 11:31:21 AM , Rating: 2
specs this and specs that...but...what % of people care about that compared to what matters? andriod phone brings "pizzaz" that an iPhone does in a social setting. But, few on DT will ever admit that, times are changing.

RE: Make no mistake
By keith524 on 5/10/2010 11:41:39 AM , Rating: 5
I guess if you need your phone to provide you with enough ego boost to survive a social setting then maybe the iPhone is right for you.

RE: Make no mistake
By AlphaVirus on 5/10/2010 11:48:17 AM , Rating: 2
The sad truth is so many people still look at the iphone as a trending item. When it first released it was a nice looking cell phone compared to all other plastic, rehashed devices. As it is today, it's almost laughable that people still care about having an iphone.

RE: Make no mistake
By MrBlastman on 5/10/2010 11:44:40 AM , Rating: 3

Whenever I hear that term I think of fluffy bling with no substance that is full of fakery. I could give a rats ass what other people think about myself in a social setting. I'm myself, if people like me, great, if they don't, too bad.

Resorting to hollow, vain expenses such as a fancy looking phone, shiny watch or sparkly car are about as empty a lifelong pursuit that you can make in life. These stupid i-phones are just that--a fancy way to dress up a piece of crap.

Perhaps, if you think about it for a moment, not everyone on this earth is wrapped up about themselves or their own vanity. I'd rather people value myself for my own abilities and practical input rather than my hot air that I produce.

This is one of many reasons why I refuse to buy Apple products.

RE: Make no mistake
By icanhascpu on 5/10/2010 5:17:10 PM , Rating: 1
I think you're right. People that do it for those reasons have issues.

However blaming the device for whatever reasoning people have, and putting -this- much thought into it also have issues.

Choose the one you enjoy using, and have fun with it. Period.

RE: Make no mistake
By sebmel on 5/10/10, Rating: 0
RE: Make no mistake
By Abrahmm on 5/10/2010 12:44:49 PM , Rating: 2
You missed the point where I repeated word for word what the original poster said, just with Android and iPhone switched.

RE: Make no mistake
By keith524 on 5/10/2010 11:36:17 AM , Rating: 2
I would accept that the iPhone has, arguably, the easiest end user experience for a smartphone. However, easiest does not equal best. For my personal use Android offers a best experience because I can do more of the things want. At the end of the day maybe an dumbed down smartphone is best for you, it's not for me. Android offers a much needed choice in the market. The additional functionality of Android does come at the cost of having to learn how to use it.

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