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A new survey examines public opinion on the topic

People love to opine.  Be it online freedom or the environment, the American people have a lot to say and are eager to say it to anyone who will listen. 

One contentious issue is the ban of cell phones on planes.  The FAA recently nixed usage on planes, yet again, silencing rumors that it might allow use.  While WiFi is available on some planes, cell phone calls are not.

So what does the American public think?  In the new survey commissioned by Yahoo and Harris Interactive, a total of 2,030 adults ages 18+ were surveyed, of whom, 1,778 were mobile phone owners who had flown in an airplanes in the past.  The results were rather conclusive, indicating that three out of four consumers (taken from the data of those who actually fly and owned mobile phones) agreed that no cell phone calls should be allowed on the plane.

More than half of consumers (60 percent) supported the use of silent features on the plane, though.  Of these consumers, 38 percent of people primarily wanted to use text messaging, 28 percent wanted to access email, and 29 percent just wanted to play games.

More interesting demographics come in the form of location.  The researchers found that people in the West gave the strongest support for a cell phone talking ban, while people in the South gave the weakest support.  In the West 83 percent of people supported the ban, followed by 72 percent in the Northeast, 73 percent in the Midwest, and the lowest figure 69 percent in the South.

Also of interest was the age breakdown on what silent features were desired.  Among 35-44 year olds a relatively large 43 percent of people want to check email on their mobile phone, the largest email percentage for any group.  Also noteworthy was that among 18-34 year olds 62 percent wanted to text, and 29 percent wanted to instant message.

If talking was allowed, two out of three (69 percent of) consumers agreed that a talking area in the airplane should be designated, where passengers can go to chat.  Interestingly older people supported a talking zone more than younger people. Among older consumers 76 percent of men and 73 percent of women supported the measure.  Among younger consumers only 64 percent, both male and female, supported the measure.

The survey was conducted between April 29 and May 1, 2008.  Its conductors weighted the data "as needed on the basis of region, age within gender, education, household income, and race/ethnicity" and "respondents' propensity to be online".  Like any survey, it is prone to multiple types of error as detailed in the press release, but by using weighting it tries to come as close to an ideal result as possible.



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If they want to talk...
By daftrok on 5/21/2008 1:47:14 PM , Rating: 2
I say there should be a "cell phone section". Just five rows of seats in the back with one blank row between that and the rest of the plane. In other words, if they HAVE to talk they can sit back there. But if it's like texting or emailing or IMing then sit anywhere.




RE: If they want to talk...
By wwwebsurfer on 5/21/2008 1:53:47 PM , Rating: 5
Don't they do this on trains already? It's called the business section, and they readily supply power, larger seats and tables, and a steward so you don't have to leave your precious equipment behind unattended on a drink run.

My thoughts are if you absolutely must be connected, take a train. If you can live without it for a few hours, cut it off and take a nap.


RE: If they want to talk...
By daftrok on 5/21/08, Rating: 0
By Seemonkeyscanfly on 5/21/2008 2:30:26 PM , Rating: 2
there is a business class too. Not all planes have it... Only the larger ones. I was able to go to Europe in business class on a 747. It was the second level (the old bar area). We were lucky to get moved up there (no extra cost to us). It cost more then coach but much less then first class.
However, making a talking section of the plane and a silent section is not a bad idea.


RE: If they want to talk...
By AlphaVirus on 5/21/2008 2:44:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
take a train.

Trains can cost more and take much longer than flying.

Granted you have less to worry about as far as safety, and its much more confortable. Even if you are in the 'coach' or 'lower class' sections of a train, you will be very comfortable.


RE: If they want to talk...
By Cygni on 5/21/2008 3:27:08 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
you have less to worry about as far as safety

Yea, thats not true.

http://hazmat.dot.gov/riskmgmt/riskcompare.htm

Flying is still far and away safer than any other form of travel, and in fact, not a single US airline passenger died in 2007. Not one. And thats out of the 760 MILLION people that took to the sky in the US alone.


RE: If they want to talk...
By AlphaVirus on 5/21/2008 6:03:34 PM , Rating: 2
Nicely put, can't argue with that at all.

Although I was a little iffy about the hazmat numbers, so I followed what they referenced and here is the most updated government info.

http://www.bts.gov/publications/transportation_sta...

If you scroll to page 96 it has
quote:
TABLE J-1 Transportation Fatalities by Mode: 1995-2005

Very detailed piece of work.


RE: If they want to talk...
By Samus on 5/22/2008 2:36:11 PM , Rating: 2
Air travel is still the safest form of mass-transit we have built. However, trains and ships/boats aren't 'unsafe.'

They are all significantly safer than traveling by any road vehicle.


RE: If they want to talk...
By dome1234 on 5/21/2008 2:03:14 PM , Rating: 3
safety issue aside, there's a big annoyance issue. Short flight's not too bad, but when you're trying to rest after 6 hours with another 7 or 8 hours of flying and someone's yapping away next to you.....

cellphone section idea's not bad.


RE: If they want to talk...
By JonnyDough on 5/21/2008 11:57:58 PM , Rating: 2
You would need to consider that if everyone is yakking away in the tail section, you'd probably hate to be stuck in the row right in front of that section.

I'd probably try to deploy the safety raft under my seat to make a wall to block them off. Before doing so though, I would make sure to get some peanuts and another scotch on the rocks from the stewardess first - and not in one of those tiny shot glasses either.


RE: If they want to talk...
By Hawkido on 5/23/2008 5:49:00 PM , Rating: 1
Yeah, that's my thinking as well... The longest fligt I have been on was Dallas to Seattle. The flight wasn't really long enough to take a decent nap (3-4 hours), the rest of my flights were much shorter (about 2 hours), any flight less than 3 hours should be free for cell phone usage. Any flight over 3 hours (especially intercontenintal) should allow cell usage for the first 30 minutes and last 30 minutes (who are you kidding your going to be awake when the plane starts banking into the airport, plus some people have to start calling their ride, or checking if the connecting flight is delayed or getting a cab or such. Other than that take a nap or go sit at the bar if your 747 has one, to use the phone.


RE: If they want to talk...
By walk2k on 5/21/2008 2:44:48 PM , Rating: 1
I think the larger issue than "inconvienence" which the FAA doesn't give a @#$% about is interference with radio and nav equipment.

Cell phones don't work at 30k anyway so it would only be for takeoffs and landings not "yakking for 6 hours".

Anyway I don't understand why people get their panties in a bunch over cell phones. As long as they are not ringing or beeping all the time and you talk in a normal volume level there's no difference between talking on a phone and talking to the person sitting next to you and there's no rule against that. Get over yourselves, you are not special. It's not like you are guaranteed some absolute right to privacy when you buy a plane ticket.


RE: If they want to talk...
By walk2k on 5/21/2008 7:03:44 PM , Rating: 1
Other people that need to get a life: those who flag posts because they disagree with your opinion.


RE: If they want to talk...
By Reclaimer77 on 5/21/2008 7:32:40 PM , Rating: 1
A lot of people on DT are petty. Some are so pathetic they make multiple accounts simply to get people they don't like or don't agree with to -1.

I take comfort in the fact that most who do this are the pussies who aren't posting because they don't have the guts to share their own opinion or back up their prejudices.

-1 should be reserved for useless trolling. Not solid counterpoints you don't have the intelligence to argue against.


RE: If they want to talk...
By Alexstarfire on 5/22/2008 2:45:23 AM , Rating: 3
Well, the safety issue may have been a real concern when cell phones first came out, but it's a non-issue now. Everything in the cockpit has RF shielding on it. So unless you're actively trying to bring the plane down, which I seriously doubt you could do with a cell phone even if you tried, then there is no safety issue.

Anyways, about the noise..... they have this invention. I believe it's called a soundproof room. You should look it up, it's pretty interesting.


RE: If they want to talk...
By AlphaVirus on 5/21/2008 2:48:12 PM , Rating: 2
That is a very good idea, although calling it "cell phone section" is not comprehensive enough. Perhaps "Lounge" or "Entertainment", that way people with Nintendo DS and PSP can also go there without bothering others. Cell phones are annoying, but so is the person with the loud headphones.


RE: If they want to talk...
By Reclaimer77 on 5/21/08, Rating: -1
RE: If they want to talk...
By walk2k on 5/21/08, Rating: -1
RE: If they want to talk...
By flydian on 5/21/2008 5:40:04 PM , Rating: 3
There's a difference here. If someone in Starbucks or Wal-Mart annoys or offends me with their phone conversation, I have the option to leave. Not so much on an airplane.


RE: If they want to talk...
By Reclaimer77 on 5/21/2008 7:26:36 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
There's a difference here. If someone in Starbucks or Wal-Mart annoys or offends me with their phone conversation, I have the option to leave. Not so much on an airplane.


Except I seriously doubt you WOULD leave simply because someone is talking on a cell phone. At least, I honestly hope you have a bit more intestinal fortitude.

I guess we just have to weight your made up "right" to not be annoyed with someones right to.

1. Use a legal, widely used, communications device.
2. Use a cellphone to conduct business
3. Make and receive possibly urgent calls. ( are we forgetting that because of a cell phone the White House was NOT hit on 911? )

4. Freedom of speech ?

You know, I understand, things do annoy me too you know ? But we cannot bury our heads in the sand any longer and pretend cell phones are a fad that will go away. They are an integral, necessary part of many peoples daily lives. I don't think you have the right to tell someone they can't talk to somebody with a perfectly legal phone that they are PAYING for, simply because it annoys you.

Planes I have been in also have pay phones built into the back of the seats. The counter argument that cell phones annoy you goes out the window when someone can be just as " annoying " on an airliner phone.

Cell phones have not interfered with electronics since the 1980's. And only then on very VERY rare types of medical scanners. So you can't use that argument either.

Call me crazy, but a lot of your guys reasoning sounds just like the Anti-SUV crowd. And your arguments are just as emotionally based and illogical. " Something thats popular annoys me, I don't understand it, lets punish them ! "