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  (Source: fastcompany.com)
Barnes & Noble isn't too pleased, either

Amazon is crawling under the skin of book publishers and rival retailers with a new plan to purchase Internet domain names like ".book."

Amazon is currently looking to buy Internet domain names like ".book," ".author," ".app," ".wow," and ".movie." The e-tailer is reportedly planning to buy "dozens" of domain names in order to expand its reach to customers.

However, this isn't sitting well with publishers like the Authors Guild and the Association of American Publishers as well as retailers like Barnes & Noble, who all say that Amazon could use these domain names to kill competition.

"Placing such generic domains in private hands is plainly anticompetitive," wrote Scott Turow, Authors Guild president, to the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). "The potential for abuse seems limitless."

ICANN is a nonprofit that supervises the world's Internet domain names.

Amazon argued that owning these domain names will not lead to its monopoly in the book, app, etc. markets. The e-tailer said it was simply looking to purchase the domains in an effort to offer a dedicated platform for itself, protect its brand/reputation, create a foundation for communication and "surprise and delight our customers."

"Why should a company be able to own 'widget.com' and not '.widget'?" said Stacey King, Amazon's senior corporate counsel. "There is no evidence that past 'closed' domains have led to any market power."

This certainly isn't Amazon's first run-in with publishers and retailers, and it's easy to see why: it offers an online alternative to traditional book stores at lower prices.

In 2011, the Authors Guild accused Amazon of disregarding the wishes of some U.S. trade book publishers by offering their books in the Kindle Owners' Lending Library -- after they denied Amazon this privilege.

Barnes & Noble is just one of the brick-and-mortar chains that have complained about Amazon's lack of tax collection in some states, which has given Amazon the upper hand for years. Barnes & Noble's NOOK tablet/e-readers also compete with Amazon's Kindle line for ebooks.

Source: The Wall Street Journal



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Liars will continue to lie
By VoodooChicken on 3/11/2013 1:15:27 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
"Why should a company be able to own 'widget.com' and not '.widget'?" said Stacey King, Amazon's senior corporate counsel. "There is no evidence that past 'closed' domains have led to any market power."


There goes another one.




RE: Liars will continue to lie
By Flunk on 3/11/2013 1:23:22 PM , Rating: 2
You might want to try a more reasoned argument, personal attacks really don't get you anywhere.


RE: Liars will continue to lie
By FaaR on 3/11/2013 5:42:58 PM , Rating: 2
A more reasoned argument would of course be that Amazon wouldn't try to take over these TLDs if they didn't see any particular point to it. So yeah, there is something - and quite possibly A LOT - to be gained here, of course there is. Otherwise they wouldn't bother.


RE: Liars will continue to lie
By RufusM on 3/12/2013 11:08:41 AM , Rating: 2
There's definitely a LOT to be spent/gained here. It's going to be another gold rush for domain names like .com, .net, etc. except this time they will mainly go to companies with deep pockets instead of on a first-come, first-serve basis.

Here's where the money is:
1. There's a lot of money for ICANN for auctioning off new TLDs.
2. There's a lot of money for Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc. if they can buy new TLDs and keep them for their own use.
3. There's a lot of money for rich domain squatters who can purchase them, hold them and re-sell them later.
4. There's a lot of money for lawyers who will sue various people and companies for taking "their" TLD for which they have trademarked a name, part of a name or phrase.


RE: Liars will continue to lie
By Reclaimer77 on 3/11/2013 6:56:49 PM , Rating: 2
lol? People have been buying a selling domain names forever now. Amazon buys a few, and suddenly it's a controversy and they're evil and liars...

siiigh


By blue_urban_sky on 3/12/2013 5:11:55 AM , Rating: 3
I presumed that amazon were trying to buy *.book not say amazon.book.

While I would have no problem with them buying *.amazon, *.book seems like it should belong to the public domain.


RE: Liars will continue to lie
By Strunf on 3/12/2013 6:05:12 AM , Rating: 2
The thing is Amazon doesn't want to buy just one domain name it wants to buy TOP domains, as far as I know no company as ever bought any top domain, only countries and a few other exceptions hold them.


RE: Liars will continue to lie
By atomic1fire on 3/12/2013 8:20:50 AM , Rating: 2
And it's well within their right to do so.

ICANN opened up the sale of gTLD's to interested parties, so Google, amazon, and various other companies have been bidding on domains like .app, .book, .food, .map, etc for a while now.

I wouldn't call it anymore anti competitive then outbidding another company for a books.com domain.

Of course this is the internet, so even the most random of people can feel unreasonably upset at the slightest disagreement.


RE: Liars will continue to lie
By Strunf on 3/12/2013 1:34:05 PM , Rating: 2
Then it's a matter of who has bigger pockets, what if a company buys the top layer .com?... things like food, book, movie and the like are part of our common language to define things, just like .com, .edu etc it shouldn't be something controlled by a single company.

I don't see how the Internet is different than anywhere else but hey maybe you live on a very strict country where people don't usually voice there opinion...


Can you control the whole TLD
By olydrh on 3/11/2013 1:35:50 PM , Rating: 2
I thought the whole idea behind the ICANN doing this was to open up more TLDs - but that a single company couldn't control all the name possibilities of the TLD. You can apply to the ICANN to 'host' the TLD and manage it. (DNS servers, registrations, etc) Meaning, if Amazon wants to run .book, then they can have amazon.book, but Google could register google.book too. Also it's something like $100K - $200K to register to run these new TLDs. Unless I wasn't clear on this back when they announced this.




RE: Can you control the whole TLD
By Trisped on 3/11/2013 2:56:22 PM , Rating: 2
What happened with the .xxx domain? As I remember one company pushed hard for its creation. Then that one company was allowed full control (who could use the domain, how much they had to pay, what rules they had to follow).

In my mind, if domains like ".book", ".author", ".app", and ".movie" were created then they would need to be managed by an independent 3rd party. Of course the validity of the domains seems questionable. Most countries use their own domain extension. Does this mean there would also be a ".book.fr" and a ".author.es"? Or would all these versions be fighting over the same domains? Isn't this just going to create more confusion?

Seems like the ICANN is more concerned with making money then making the internet easier to use.


RE: Can you control the whole TLD
By Solandri on 3/11/2013 6:09:56 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Seems like the ICANN is more concerned with making money then making the internet easier to use.

That's exactly it. The previous spate of new TLDs (which brought you .biz, .info, .mobi, .xxx) have been pretty much a failure in everyone's eyes. Except ICANN makes money off of each one so they consider it a success.


well
By UpSpin on 3/11/2013 2:47:05 PM , Rating: 2
it's the same as if some private company can own domains related to physical and well known objecs, like Apple.com or Windows.com.
Oh, those domains are in private hands? my bad.




RE: well
By atomic1fire on 3/12/2013 8:27:27 AM , Rating: 2
Wait you mean to tell me that blackberry.com isn't an evil cash grab?

/sarcasm


Late to the game
By DrApop on 3/12/2013 10:43:30 AM , Rating: 3
Publishers and authors are just pissed because they didn't think of it first.

They didn't try to forge the path to ebooks.

They didn't try to forge the path to digital emedia

They didn't do anything and simply sat back on their laurels of the last 500 years. All the while they saw changes from radio to film to TV to cable to VHS to DVD to bluray to streaming. From 78's to 45's to LP's/records to 8-tracks, to CD's, to mp3's, to e-sales, to internet streams. From AM to FM to Sat to internet streams. And on and on.

The only think books publishers and authors have gone for is books to books on tape/CD that cost double or triple the cost.

They have very little vision going forward if you ask me.




By The Melon on 3/11/2013 1:32:58 PM , Rating: 2
No one said you have to use the root servers controlled by ICANN.




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