reported earlier this week, following its leak of 250,000
classified U.S. State Department diplomatic
cables, Wikileaks was
targeted by a distributed denial of service attack. The site,
which had been hosted primarily on Swedish hosting service Bahnhof,
went down for a while on Sunday following the leak.By Monday
it was back up again. According to details newly released from
the site, its restoration came as it switched to Amazon's EC2 cloud
computing platform, a service that allows users to rent as many
virtual servers as they want.Wikileaks
bad news for Wikileaks is
that Amazon apparently dumped it sometime
yesterday.Wikileaks posted on
servers at Amazon ousted. Free speech the land of the free--fine our
$ are now spent to employ people in Europe.
Amazon are so uncomfortable with the first amendment, they should get
out of the business of selling books.
quote represents a fundamental misunderstanding of the first
amendment, which is perhaps understandable given that
the Wikileaks folks
by and large aren't from the U.S. The First Amendment of the
U.S. Constitution prevent the government from infringing on your
free speech, but it's perfectly legal in the U.S. for businesses to
kick you out and deny you access to their property if they don't like
what you're saying.According
Amazon was contacted by a Homeland Security and Government Affairs
Committee official who pressured the company to dump the site.
Much as it might have agreed to ditch an Al Qaeda site, Amazon agreed
to dump Wikileaks,
a site whose primary focus over the last several years has been
against the U.S. government.Moved back to
Bahnhof, Wikileaks appears
to be up and responsive at the present.Government
Beefs up SecurityU.S.
President Barack Obama has set up a special panel to assess the
fallout of the leaked cables and determine steps to secure
confidential government data better in the future. The
embarrassing deluge of private diplomatic observations of the
government has convinced many that some sort of shake up is
necessary.The relative insecurity of classified government
data is largely a result of post-9/11 efforts to share more
information between various intelligence and defense agencies.
That effort resulted in low level military analysts having access to
a wealth of confidential information. One such analyst, a
disgruntled soldier name Bradley Manning, was responsible for the
recent leaks to Wikileaks,
a move he
made after he was demoted.One problem, though, is that
officials can't seem to agree on how to enhance security. The
National Counterintelligence Executive, part of the Office of the
Director of National Intelligence, the most senior U.S. intelligence
official was going to set up teams of inspectors to assess each
agency's security policies. However, the U.S. military
apparently complained, fearful of interference from intelligence
agents. As a result the idea has been scrapped.What is
clear is that the U.S. government needs to do something to
secure its information from malicious
governments like China or organizations
What is less clear is how that should be accomplished exactly.
quote: Now that they are just releasing diplomatic cables and all this classified information that we really don't need to know about
quote: All diplomatic and political information should be public. Not just in our country but in every one. How else are you supposed to hold people accountable for their actions?
quote: Not all government information should be made public like where are nuclear arsenal is stored what weapons we have and information like that should not be public.
quote: No informants were actually outed.
quote: Even nations that are as close as allies can be (US-Canada) are in direct competition with each other in at least some facets. It is the job of the Canadian and US governments to look out for their citizens and businesses interests at the global level and sometimes these interest clash (usually over unilateral trade).
quote: Permutations of the above take place practically all around the world, all day, every day and most of it doesn't come to under public scrutiny until afterwards.
quote: Definition of IMPERIALISM1: imperial government, authority, or system2: the policy, practice, or advocacy of extending the power and dominion of a nation especially by direct territorial acquisitions or by gaining indirect control over the political or economic life of other areas; broadly : the extension or imposition of power, authority, or influence <union imperialism>
quote: World English Dictionaryimperialism (?m'p??r???l?z?m) [Click for IPA pronunciation guide]— n1. the policy or practice of extending a state's rule over other territories2. an instance or policy of aggressive behaviour by one state against another3. the extension or attempted extension of authority, influence, power, etc, by any person, country, institution, etc: cultural imperialism4. a system of imperial government or rule by an emperor5. the spirit, character, authority, etc, of an empire6. advocacy of or support for any form of imperialism
quote: Our dipolmats and military are horrible at their transparency, as these leaks prove.
quote: The whole government(military included) needs to be more transparent to its people so we can finally have a say in how it operates correctly.
quote: That is the largest problem right now facing this country.
quote: Wrong. The military and intelligence organizations are required to be transparent TO our Government. Not to give you, Anoxanmore, a daily report of their activities.
quote: Yeah cause we really want the same dumbasses who voted Obama into office to have it's "say" in how the military operates lmao!!!
quote: You are SO liberal lol. Our biggest problem is what the military is doing?? Only a Liberal would say that when people like you are in office spending trillions we don't have on pet projects and pork barrel "stimulus" bills.
quote: I know you don't see it because, in your mind, those are just good people trying to do what's right. While the military is just out there killing babies like the warmongering savages they are.
quote: Just remember, the people filling your head with this bullshit are the same ones that voted for our boys to go over there by a huge majority in the first place.
quote: Right. They are required to keep the Public up to date on their activities. That is outlined quite clearly in the Constitution you supposedly support.
quote: Yes, I am liberal, I stand for freedom and equality of everyone. You however, being conservative, would prefer to see a dictatorship like that of Germany in WWII, Japan in WWII or say Russia under Stalin.
quote: It allows corruptions and bribes to rum rampant. Afghanistan, Korea, Iraq, Iran, Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, Panama & etc all show that very clearly. (All of those were just in the past 30 yrs)
quote: Imperialism is clearly when the US tries(and fails I might add) to add its political, and culturual influence on another nation that does not ask for it.
quote: You should travel the world sometime Reclaimer, it is a huge eye opener when you leave the states.
quote: Sorry there hasn't been a war worth fighting for since WWII, you can disagree all you want, but when was the last time the US was actually threatened military wise? Oh right, the 1940s.
quote: I love this country more than you do as I moved here, I wasn't born here. So I was given a choice, can you say the same?
quote: Forcing another country to adhere to another countries culture is wrong.
quote: I would have assumed you realized the lesson of WWII. Don't wait for anymore Hitlers to come to power. Why wait until we're threatened military wise? Also, again, we have allies. If they are threatened we can't just sit back and say "well sorry guys, they're no threat to us"It's interesting you keep bringing up WWII, because your beliefs and attitudes are the EXACT thing that allowed WWII to happen. Your 'special' blend of isolationism and apathy is DIRECTLY what lead to a world war in the first place.
quote: This is a joke, right? Could you possibly be any more moronic and offensive? You're now claiming you love the United States more than a native, because you "chose" to move here?
quote: It's impossible to force culture on another, so this is a straw man. You continue to make us out to be International thugs and bullies that everyone just puts up with because and lets us get away with whatever we want. But culture? Really?I give up with you. Really. I'm not the first to try to talk sense into you on this, let one of them carry the torch.
quote: Actually what lead to WWII was left over animosity from WWI. That and allowing a nation to persecute another religion/ethnic group to the point where the local populace was helpless to stop it. Kind of sounds like where the US is headed at the moment.
quote: or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
quote: Though the intelligence agencies around the world probably has even dirtier intelligence already, this is leak is nothing in comprison.
quote: Julian Assange has essentially brought to light the truth of what the US gov't has been up to. Quite frankly, I think he should be seen as a hero.
quote: If he had done this to the Chinese gov't, the tune sung would be entirely of a different melody.
quote: Gonzalez claimed the KGB and its SVR successor had deliberately created the LDPR. Some of its ranks were now home to serious criminals who owned large mansions in Spain, he said. He further alleged there were proven ties between the Russian political parties – all of which support the Kremlin – and "organised crime and arms trafficking".
quote: "those recently arrested in Spain were involved in a complex web of shady business dealings and enjoyed a murky relationship with senior Russian government officials".
quote: It's not opinions, it's the result of an ONGOING Spanish investigation and arrests of people who have yet to be prosecuted in a court of law .
quote: While the following is purely conjecture on my part, I wouldn't be surprised if he had information on other nations that he has withheld. I also wouldn't be surprised if he was withholding such information to avoid drawing attention away from the US until he has finished griding his Axe for America. Unfortunately, the only person who knows about all of the information he has available to him and his personal motives (if any) is he himself.
quote: So let's say that he knowingly and willingly releases documents that start a war resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands. Is he still a hero? Is he culpable? Both?
quote: O! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand Between their loved home and the war's desolation! Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation. Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just , And this be our motto: "In God is our trust." And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
quote: OK, when the US allows N. Korea to practice its war games in the gulf of Mexico, I'll buy your propaganda.
quote: Busan would have been a good area to practice. N. Korea had told the US and S. Korea months in advance that it wasn't comfortable with it doing exercises in the Yellow Sea.
quote: To be perfectly honest, I'd love to see N. Korea collapse into the fold of a single Korea.
quote: You know, the US kind of went amok nearly 10 years ago: ignoring the Geneva Convention, attacking Iraq without cause, and naming N. Korea as a target by putting it in with the Axis of Evil despite the fact that N. Korea had less to do with 911 than Canada did.
quote: Maybe, if for once, people listened to PROK, we'd have a much more amicable relationship with it. In the meantime, maybe you should give up the 'we're always right' mentality that clouds your judgment.
quote: If he had done this to the Chinese gov't, the tune sung would be entirely of a different melody.
quote: You're just a propagandized fool who swallows all the crap the mainstream media shovels at you. Then you wonder why your country goes to hell, banksters steal all the wealth and your family is dying of cancer. Screw you and all the other stunted husks out there. Wikileaks is only scratching the surface, and the only reason you hate them now is because wikileaks is now threatening the banksters that control just about everything you think as they already robbed you blind."Endangered american soldiers" ... aren't parroting idiots like you supposed to be watching fox news?
quote: I freely admit, I find the fact that >95 percent of the leaked documents on the site target the U.S. is highly questionable. Does the U.S. engage in >95 percent of the world's wrongdoing? I doubt it.
quote:Wikileaks, a cyberespionage organization...
quote: In my opinion the site is clearly engaging on info-terrorism against the U.S. Whether its motive is anarchism, a misguided sense of global justice, or perhaps funding by a hostile foreign national is immaterial.
quote: Seriously. Jason is about as liberal as they come.
quote: Personally I'm of the opinion that journalists who take classified information and publish it should not only be required to give up their source, but put in jail even if they do.
quote: That sort of thing can be used as recruiting tools against us, and put our soldiers in danger,
quote: WWI would have ended on its own, it was mostly over by the time the US got involved.
quote: How are we ever going to end the never ending wars?
quote: Well... wars must at least be declared. Since Vietnam we haven't done any declaring haven't we?
quote: According to The Seattle Times, Amazon was contacted by a Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee official who pressured the company to dump the site.
quote: If not, then it is ENTIRELY up to Amazon what they do with their servers and customers.
quote: One such analyst, a disgruntled soldier name Bradley Manning, was responsible for the recent leaks to Wikileaks, a move he made after he was demoted.
quote: ...a site whose primary focus over the last several years has been against the U.S. government.
quote: U.S. President Barack Obama has set up a special panel to assess the fallout of the leaked cables and determine steps to secure confidential government data better in the future.
quote: I really think you need to read the constitution. The Govt that we currently have is NOT the one professed in the original constitution
quote: The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects the government from infringing on your free speech