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Alienware M17 Gaming Notebook  (Source: Alienware)
M17 starts at a low price, but fully optioned systems get pricey

Notebooks have finally outsold desktop computers for the first time ever; despite that fact, for most gamers the desktop computer is still the weapon of choice. Gaming notebooks are still simply more costly than most gamers can afford.

Alienware introduced its latest gaming notebook called the M17 that starts at a bargain price -- for an Alienware computer -- of $1,399. Fully optioned systems will cost you significantly more coin than the starting price.

Alienware stacks the options list with some good hardware. The standard 17-inch LCD has a screen resolution of 1440 x 900. An optional Clearview WUXGA LCD provides a resolution of 1920 x 1200. To drive very high resolutions on today's most popular games requires lots of graphics muscle.

Alienware says that the M17 is the first Alienware gaming notebook to offer ATI CrossFireX multiple-GPU technology. The machine can be had with a single ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 GPU and dual 3870 GPUs can be added for more performance.

The system can also be optioned with the first mobile quad-core CPU from Intel called the Core 2 Extreme QX9300. Up to 4GB of DDR3 RAM is supported and dual 500GB HDDs are available with RAID 0 configurations.

Alienware executive VP for Product and Marketing groups Frank Azor said in a statement, "By incorporating the all-out performance of CrossFireX graphics and quad-core processing into Alienware’s award-winning notebook lineup. The M17 delivers an impressive feature set at a price point that doesn’t break the bank."

Gamers will also be glad to hear that the M17 has a decent sound system that features two speakers and a built-in subwoofer. The system uses the Intel PM45 + ICH9M-E chipset and can be optioned with a TV tuner. The keyboard is backlit and power comes from a 12-cell lithium-ion battery.

Alienware also makes some powerful, but costly, gaming desktop computers like the Area-51 ALX DailyTech covered in May.



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Bah
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 11/5/2008 7:20:45 AM , Rating: 5
Yea, had for more indeed. With all the options this sucker rounds out to a nice 4,200. Several of their options though reek of gouging.

+300 to move from 2GB to 4GB? Newegg shows I can have that from a respected manufacturer for about $60.

+600 to move from a single 160GB Hard Drive to a Raid 1/0 with 500GB drives. Newegg shows I can have that from Western Digital for 150 each.

The rest is about in line with industry standards.




RE: Bah
By BruceLeet on 11/5/2008 9:25:07 AM , Rating: 1
Newegg, Master Kenobi's sith overlord.


RE: Bah
By quiksilvr on 11/5/2008 11:21:06 AM , Rating: 2
Good, goooood...let the hate flow through you...


RE: Bah
By mmntech on 11/5/2008 9:33:54 AM , Rating: 2
Alienware have always been overpriced to the point of putting Apple to shame. Still, $1399 isn't too bad for a gaming laptop and you can upgrade most of the parts you mentioned yourself. Therefore, why not just go that route?

To me though, gaming laptops are a waste of money since you can't upgrade many critical parts (GPU) and they aren't truly portable either. At least with a gaming desktop, you can upgrade any part as needed without having to buy a whole new system every six months.


RE: Bah
By Comdrpopnfresh on 11/5/2008 9:59:21 AM , Rating: 2
Isn't alienware a dell offshoot now? What else would we expect?


RE: Bah
By The0ne on 11/5/2008 10:17:10 AM , Rating: 2
It makes you wonder why you would ever look into a laptop in the first place if you're not going for the basic configuration eh? Have you seen any other laptop dealers offering upgrades for your typical Newegg or otherwise cheaper prices?

This is Dell we're talking about and they usually charge a heft price for their upgrades UNLESS there is some sort of sale/special going on.


RE: Bah
By Enigmatic on 11/5/2008 12:18:20 PM , Rating: 2
Even before being bought by Dell, Alienware was always rip-off. I don't think much has changed since.


RE: Bah
By jay401 on 11/5/2008 1:39:54 PM , Rating: 2
correct!


RE: Bah
By Bremen7000 on 11/6/2008 12:23:20 AM , Rating: 2
Actually, some manufacturers have gotten significantly less gougy. Thinkpad RAM upgrades are now "pretty close" to buying it yourself, for example.


Price - performance
By jadeskye on 11/5/2008 7:21:03 AM , Rating: 1
It's powerful, it's pretty, it may even be a little sexy.

But i can't help but feel for the same price you could get double the performance in a desktop, particularly if you build it yourself.

The whole gaming laptop thing never quite worked for me because of that.




RE: Price - performance
By kelmon on 11/5/2008 7:32:11 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
it may even be a little sexy


Oh, come on. This is one of the ugliest laptops ever made. Most manufacturers seem capable of banging out good looking machines but this one looks like a throwback to the 90s. Alienware really need to invest in some better designers.

Seriously, what the hell is with the molding on the display? It makes the whole unit chunkier than it needs to be for no reason and adds weight.


RE: Price - performance
By jadeskye on 11/5/2008 7:38:25 AM , Rating: 1
eh maybe it's just me then ^^ i always liked alienware cases in black.


RE: Price - performance
By The0ne on 11/5/2008 10:20:35 AM , Rating: 2
The design is part of their signature recognition. I'm sure their are hundreds of ways to design the alien face into the laptop but seriously how many buyers would care what type of alien it has. And lastly, how many of these buyers are going to be "into" aliens to care much?

I think the case is appropriate because I can associated them as being "Alienware" and not some other company.


RE: Price - performance
By kelmon on 11/6/2008 2:23:47 AM , Rating: 2
I think it depends on how much, if at all, the case design repels customers. Speaking personally, I would not buy something as ugly as this laptop - it's hideous, particularly when you consider the competition available. If this opinion is common then the case design hinders business rather than increases it and therefore a redesign (or perhaps a rebranding) is necessary.

Much of the computing industry has evolved over the years to deliver products that are physically appealing. I wonder why Alienware appears to be incapable of doing the same.


RE: Price - performance
By The0ne on 11/7/2008 11:02:31 AM , Rating: 2
I don't think they are incapable. Would you rather stick to your brand recognition or "risk" changing it. I'm with you on the looks, but as soon as I see it I know it is an Alienware product. You change it to something like Dell, Lenevo, or all other plain looking laptops with colors here and there and you might end up being like one of them...good or bad.


RE: Price - performance
By retrospooty on 11/5/2008 9:09:08 AM , Rating: 2
" i can't help but feel for the same price you could get double the performance in a desktop, particularly if you build it yoursel"

Of course... its portable. If you dont need a portable unit, all laptops are way too expensive.


RE: Price - performance
By kelmon on 11/6/2008 2:26:56 AM , Rating: 2
It's also worth considering that laptops take up less space and can be easily "put away". I originally bought my first laptop because the house we were moving to did not have space for an office and a desktop computer. These days, however, I have learnt to appreciate the portability of a laptop, particularly since the advent of WiFi and good performance.


OCZ Whitebook
By jbizzler on 11/5/2008 10:39:16 AM , Rating: 2
This same laptop has been available as an OCZ whitebook for a few months now.
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/diy_notebook...

At least I think they're the same. The OCZ is definately an Arima and Alienware has a history with Arima as well. But, of course, the OCZ one is cheaper and you can build it yourself!

It bothers me that when Alienware releases a notebook, it's news, but when Clevo or Arima announce the new notebook that's going to be rebranded as an Alienware or Sager or whatever, only a few notice.




Whoa It Looks Like....
By InstinctiveWanderer on 11/5/2008 1:00:47 PM , Rating: 2
At First I thought they had attached Wolverines Adamantine Claws onto the Displays back but overall The design could use some overhaulin makes me grateful for the XPS M1530 I bought a few months ago atleast It isnt ugly as this beast (even though it is under powered hardware wise)




Weight
By gramboh on 11/5/2008 1:09:56 PM , Rating: 2
Anyone know how much this bad boy weighs? Running flat out with two GPUs and a quad core it must get pretty hot (fans must be really loud). I can see the niche for a gaming laptop (low on space, travel a lot), but for people with just small spaces (dorms) why not get a Shuttle if you really want to game.

Besides, even with Crossfire, 3870 is going to struggle to get decent FPS in new games (Crysis, Far Cry 2, Fallout etc) at 1920x1200.




By Pirks on 11/5/2008 2:04:23 PM , Rating: 2
Tigerdirect sold out those Gateways almost immediately. No wonder why - twice more memory, better HDD, better GPU, not a crippled Vista version and lower price compared to that M17. Good for me that I managed to snatch one of those. Dead Space and Fallout 3 look and play sooo wonderful on this baby... Alienware, see you next time when you learn to offer better notebooks for lower prices as Gateway did this time.




This gaming laptop is trash slow at 1920x1200
By on 11/5/08, Rating: -1
By Pirks on 11/5/2008 6:50:18 PM , Rating: 2
Get a 1440x900 screen, "LOL"


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