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Alienware takes a 3.2GHz QX9770 processor and overclocks it to 4.0GHz.

When it comes to Alienware's desktop computers, more is always better. That philosophy holds true with the relaunch of the company's Area-51 ALX desktop system.

The Area-51 ALX is now offered with a quad-core, Intel Extreme Edition QX9770 processor overclocked to a whopping 4GHz. The Area-51 ALX uses an efficient water cooling system with a rear-mounted radiator to keep heat levels in check at 4GHz. Alienware also uses innovative cable management to keep the case interior free of obstructions and provide proper ventilation for the internal components.

"The performance packed into the Area-51 ALX desktop is flat-out unheard-of," says Marc Diana, Alienware's Product Marketing Manager. "Alienware has always been committed to building only the fastest, most powerful systems available, and that’s exactly what we’ve done with the new ALX."

"By enabling the Area-51 ALX to operate at blazing speed with a great mix of performance and energy efficiency, the Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 is the heart of a system sure to excite any Alienware user," added said CJ Bruno, Intel VP and GM of Americas Sales and Marketing.

While the 4GHz quad-core processor is no doubt impressive, it comes at price -- an extremely hefty price. The Area-51 ALX starts at a "mere" $4,599 with an Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 processor, but you'll have to fork over $5,509 to even get your foot in the door with the overclocked QX9770 processor. That price will get you a 1GB ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2 graphics card, 2GB of Corsair Dominator DDR3 memory, 1TB of storage space (two 500GB HDDs in RAID-0), dual-layer DVD burner, 1200W power supply and Windows Vista Home Premium.

Alienware has been in the news recently when the Wall Street Journal announced that Dell was dropping its high-end XPS lineup to focus solely on the Alienware. Dell quickly denied the allegations and stated that the Wall Street Journal was clearly mistaken.

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2GB of RAM?
By amanojaku on 5/22/2008 1:05:20 PM , Rating: 5
Call me naive, but I would have gone with less expensive RAM so I could double the capacity to 4GB. Today's software is getting bloated, even if you only run one application at a time. I'm not a hardcore gamer: is higher performance memory better than more memory?




RE: 2GB of RAM?
By Runiteshark on 5/22/2008 1:10:54 PM , Rating: 2
Sounds pretty dumb to me:

Intel Q6600 @ 4.11Ghz (457x9)
Tuniq Tower 120
8GB OCZ Titanium 5-6-5-16 @ 229mhz (1:2)2.2v
Gigabyte X38-DQ6
8800GT 512mb
PC Power and cooling 850w psu
About 13 hard drives, also have a RAID controller...

Total cost:
$1500~ (with only one 750gb drive, all the others tack on the cost pretty quick)


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By FITCamaro on 5/22/2008 1:26:33 PM , Rating: 2
To be fair, the 3870X2 performs better. But yes you're right. I just bought a Q6600, EVGA 680i mobo, Vista Business x64, 4GB OCZ SLI memory, 2x8800GTS 512MB, Thermalright Ultra120 Extreme, and dual S1 Rev 2 VGA coolers for under $1300. If you add in the cost of my hard drives, Lian Li case, 750W modular power supply, and DVD burners, you're still around $2000.

I don't plan to overclock to 4GHz(3GHz) but still. I could if I wanted to.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By ImSpartacus on 5/22/2008 4:33:53 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I don't plan to overclock to 4GHz(3GHz) but still. I could if I wanted to.


4 GHz on a Q6600? Even with a TRUE that's not a drop in the bucket. I took my E8400 to 3.6 GHz (400x9), but that was a 45nm dualie on an out-of-the-box oc.

A QX9770 on the other hand basically overclocks itself. 400x10 on liquid cooling? Ha! They literally increase the multiplier to 10x and put the vcore to like 1.3v (maybe 1.35v).

Alienware acts like it is some feat. Pff!

Intel's highest binned 45nm LGA775 chip can't be overclocked .8 GHz?


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By DASQ on 5/22/2008 6:00:45 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah 4.0GHz on even a G0 Q6600 is going to be pushing it. Almost impossible on air with any reasonable temperatures.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By FITCamaro on 5/22/2008 6:15:03 PM , Rating: 1
I have a water cooling setup at my disposal if I wanted to do it.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By Felofasofa on 5/22/2008 8:24:20 PM , Rating: 2
The current Q6600's don't seem to overclock as well as the early batches of G0's. 4ghz is as ambitious as it is unnecessary. 3.5ghz-3.6ghz is plenty for that chip and you shouldn't need insane voltages. I use 1.38vcore for 3.5ghz. The latest G0's seem to need more.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By cheetah2k on 5/22/2008 11:47:57 PM , Rating: 2
I agree. I managed a fairly stable 3.75Ghz, using OCZ 1260MHz RAM, 1.45Vcore, Coolit Freezone TEC cooling and on an XFX 780i mobo.

I threw out the 680i board I had, as there were just too many FSB holes between 1400Mhz and 1600Mhz FSB, and neither cooling or voltage increases on the FSB and CPU made any difference in stability. Best I could do with the 680i was 3Ghz with the Q6600.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By FITCamaro on 5/23/2008 8:48:55 AM , Rating: 2
3.0GHz is where I plan to go. Just bump the FSB from 266 to 333.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By cheetah2k on 5/22/2008 11:40:09 PM , Rating: 2
Theres no way you can overclock a Q6600 with a NV 680i mobo. Trust me, I've tried

Search the forums, 680i's are just too unstable with Quads. Try a nice 6850 or similar dual core with the 680i @ ~4Gb, no worries.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By cheetah2k on 5/22/2008 11:43:07 PM , Rating: 2
And cooling wasn't the issue with mine. I was using a Coolit Freezone for CPU cooling


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By FITCamaro on 5/23/2008 9:02:25 AM , Rating: 2
The quick amount of searching I did showed people with the same motherboard I bought getting G0 Q6600s getting to up to 3.5GHz on air cooling.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By DeMagH on 5/23/2008 7:11:22 AM , Rating: 3
Weird thing is you mentioned this specific processor Q6600 with this specific cooler Tuniq Tower to reach this specific clock speed 4.11Ghz.

Well, bad news, the best Q6600 out there will reach 3.83Ghz with water cooling , 3.65Ghz max on quality air cooling, so i guess your numbers/items are not qualified to even consider, unless of course you are an extreme resident of IMAGINAAAAATIooooON LAND.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By Quiescent on 5/23/2008 3:46:23 PM , Rating: 2
Lol. Depends on the climate. He lives in Colorado. I live in Kansas. I certainly wouldn't be able to overclock mine to 4Ghz.

I have proof that climate makes the difference: At colorado, my Eee runs at a mere 30-40C during the winter, at one point I was reaching 24C, and during the winter, my Eee will run at 40-60C in the winter. In the summer, haven't tested in Colorado, but it's reaching 70c here. This is at a constant 900mhz overclock.

So, make sure you know that climate does matter. You can push a couple mhz with a cooler climate.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By bfellow on 5/23/2008 1:37:11 PM , Rating: 2
But you don't get the $3000 Alienware logo! It's OMGROFLCOPTERUBER1337HAX0RZ retarded.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By GhandiInstinct on 5/22/2008 1:11:27 PM , Rating: 4
For $6K I can get 16GB of ram and still have a better system than this overpriced junk.

Since when do average consumers pay premiums for neat cables and cool looking cases?


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By xsilver on 5/22/2008 1:20:07 PM , Rating: 2
well someone is buying them because otherwise they would have gone out of business ages ago.

*btw I am running an alienware case, but self built innards. Kinda getting bored of the case though.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By Runiteshark on 5/22/2008 1:31:44 PM , Rating: 5
I take it you've never heard of a company named Apple...


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By amanojaku on 5/22/2008 1:35:49 PM , Rating: 5
Since when are Apple customers considered average? From their point of view they're above, while the rest of the world thinks the opposite.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By afkrotch on 5/22/2008 1:44:13 PM , Rating: 5
Yep. Applevangelists. Ye shalt boweth before thee almighty Apple.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By retrospooty on 5/23/2008 12:03:53 AM , Rating: 5
As though should boweth... If Apple built this, it would be $8499 at least.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By MrPoletski on 5/23/2008 5:53:40 AM , Rating: 1
Well they do at least have one thing going for them, they don't have to boweth before the almight Microsoft instead. By bow, I mean turn around and bend over.

The only other alternative is to bow to the linux god - unfortunately penguins are rare in these parts and only really get on ok in one place, a cold and wet place.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By ZipSpeed on 5/22/2008 1:43:52 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
Since when do average consumers pay premiums for neat cables and cool looking cases?


I must be getting old. All these glowing neon custom cases from Dell XPS, Alienware, VoodooPC (HP), etc. all look tacky. I probably would have drooled in my younger years but being almost 3 decades old, I prefer clean simple looking cases like the Antec P182 which in itself is an awesome case for cable management.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By afkrotch on 5/22/2008 1:47:33 PM , Rating: 2
I'm almost three decades old and I love my Lian Li V2000B.

http://www.afkrotch.com/My_Comp/Wirbelwind/IMG_056...

Mmmmmmmm.....


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By amanojaku on 5/22/2008 1:55:30 PM , Rating: 2
Dude, is that Rei Ayanami?


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By afkrotch on 5/22/2008 2:08:29 PM , Rating: 2
RE: 2GB of RAM?
By KaiserCSS on 5/22/08, Rating: 0
RE: 2GB of RAM?
By ZaethDekar on 5/22/2008 2:14:47 PM , Rating: 2
That reminds be of the Star Wars Jawa vehicles.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By afkrotch on 5/22/2008 2:37:14 PM , Rating: 2
I had a lot of blue light come off the back of my comp and right into my face, while I was trying to sleep. So I jammed that tech tree paper onto the back.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By FITCamaro on 5/22/2008 6:16:07 PM , Rating: 2
I have the same case without the window. Love it. Tons of room. Great airflow.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By FITCamaro on 5/22/2008 6:17:23 PM , Rating: 2
I've also got a full tower Lian Li. Which is my main system. The video server is in the mid tower.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By ImSpartacus on 5/22/2008 4:39:46 PM , Rating: 2
I'm 1.6 decades old (might as well continue the trend...) and I love the p182. I don't even know why big flashy windowed, lit up cases sell at all. Who buys those?


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By sgtdisturbed47 on 5/23/2008 2:41:00 AM , Rating: 2
Well said. I use the P180 and recently built my buddy's rig using a P190. Those cases are so effing awesome. I stopped using windowed cases at about the same time I got sick of the lack of sound insulation.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By ZaethDekar on 5/22/2008 1:11:59 PM , Rating: 2
I agree, I would rather have either 4GB in 32bit or 8 in 64bit. 2GB just seems low :S Even my current build from 2 years ago has 4GB...

However maybe there is an option for 4GB? Time to check it out.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By ZaethDekar on 5/22/2008 1:28:54 PM , Rating: 3
$6,848.00

And this gives you:

1200 PSU
Acoustic Dampening
Black Case, Yellow glow
Dual 1GB Nvidia 9800GX2
4.0GHz QX7700
4GB Corsair Dominator Overclocked Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 4 x 1024MB
Vista Home Premium SP1
1TB storage
20x Dual Lave DVD burner with Lightscribe
Razer Tarantula Keyboard
Razer Lachesis Mouse
Mesh Cap, Mousepad, Binder, Owner Identification Card, Internal Wire Management.

I would rather save a good 5 thousand and spend that on a KLR 650 or something that gets me out of the house.. .because seriously, there is more to life then that.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By afkrotch on 5/22/2008 1:51:41 PM , Rating: 2
I look at that build and all I can think is..."Jeez, what a waste of money." I'm one to spend around $2000 - $2500 on a comp and be good for a couple years, til my next upgrade.

I'm still rocking a 7900GTX and a pair of 36.7 gig Raptors. Haven't seen a need to go quad core or over 2 gb of memory. Yes, I do game.

I recently bought a 8800GTS 512 and 4 gb of memory. Needed new memory and the 4 gb was actually half the price of the 2 gb of memory that I bought when I build my comp.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By Shawn5961 on 5/22/2008 1:56:29 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Needed new memory and the 4 gb was actually half the price of the 2 gb of memory that I bought when I build my comp.


You can say that again. They're practically giving away DDR2 these days.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By afkrotch on 5/22/2008 2:13:22 PM , Rating: 2
Well, at least memory isn't crazy expensive like it was when I was using Rambus. PC1066 RDRAM was crazy expensive. Around $300 a stick of 512 meg. Even now it's still $200 a stick.

Prices for DDR3, I kind of laugh at it. I'd swap over if it actually had real world benefits, but none that I can really see.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By sgtdisturbed47 on 5/23/2008 2:43:05 AM , Rating: 3
Found my DDR2 set in a box of Cracker Jacks.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By AmbroseAthan on 5/22/2008 2:55:14 PM , Rating: 2
While I agree a cheaper build would be good, you wouldn't be saving 5-thousand if you tried to mimic their build.

Going by NewEgg (with decent quality parts) if I tried to build this:

~$400 - 1200 PSU
~$100 - Acoustic Dampening (pure guess on price)
~$300 - Case (adjustable colors, alot of fans, huge case)
~$1000- Dual 1GB Nvidia 9800GX2
~$1500- 4.0GHz QX7700
~$500 - 4GB Corsair Dom. DDR3 1600MHz - 4 x 1024MB
~$100 - Vista Home Premium SP1
~$250 - 1TB storage
~$40 - 20x Dual Lave DVD burner with Lightscribe
~$90 - Razer Tarantula Keyboard
~$75 - Razer Lachesis Mouse
~$400 - Custom Watercooling setup
~$300 - Motherboard which supports all of the above

Total: ~$5,000

So it is definitely being overcharged by a good bit, but trying to mimic their system you would spend a truckload anyways. And I sure someone with the budget wouldn't complain much for someone to gaurentee a stable 4Ghz and pre-installed water cooling.

Personally it is a bit excessive for my tastes (and way out of my budget), but Alienware's price is within reason for the components if someone is looking for a top-of-the-line system.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By sgtdisturbed47 on 5/23/2008 2:38:44 AM , Rating: 3
Christ, Alienware rigs are always overpriced for the performance you get. That has never changed and I guess it never will. It seems like Alienware rigs are better suited for rich kids that can beg their rich parents to buy "super le3t" Alienware computers so they can get 40 FPS in Crysis...

I am actually amazed that the Alienware name is still around. Granted, it's under Dell now but the overpriced nature of them hasn't changed. Sure, the high-end 45nm quads are expensive themselves, but exactly HOW much more performance is being gained over a well-OCed Q6600 G0? Yeah, you spend a hell of a lot more for the unlocked multiplier, but your real-world performance isn't so drastically higher than the Q6600. I personally don't own a Q6600, but seeing them in use in person, they are great and relatively inexpensive. I opted for the E8400 merely for OC purposes (4.3 GHz without breaking a sweat), but if I were to choose a quad, it would have to be the Q6600. They are about to get even cheaper due to the imminent Intel price cuts.

Anyone can build a sweet gaming rig around 2 8800 Ultras in SLi and a Q6600 for about $2000, so why bother spending $5000 on an Alienware when you can spend less and pretty much get the same performance. I mean, seriously, in the enthusiast world, the Alienware rigs are laughed at, not drooled over.


RE: 2GB of RAM?
By Elementalism on 5/23/2008 10:00:13 AM , Rating: 3
Well you said it. These machines are targetted at people who have money but dont have the knowledge or the desire to build their own. They want to get a good performing machine and have somebody to call when it breaks. Which if it was homebuilt is a geek friend who usually thinks he knows more than he does.


Please drop the alien theme!
By Aivas47a on 5/22/2008 1:15:54 PM , Rating: 2
No matter how much Alienware tries to "class up" their alien-head case design, its still tacky and dated and stupid.




RE: Please drop the alien theme!
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 5/22/2008 1:20:34 PM , Rating: 5
Isn't that like asking Chic-fil-A to stop selling chicken or telling Target to stop painting the inside of their stores a hideous shade of red? ;)


RE: Please drop the alien theme!
By Aivas47a on 5/22/2008 6:01:41 PM , Rating: 2
Alienware is part of Dell now. They could easily take some design cues from the XPS line, which acutally has a nice looking case that someone over 15 wouldn't be ashamed to have on his desk.


By brandonicus on 5/22/2008 9:58:52 PM , Rating: 2
I agree, the super glossy wavy plastic look is getting old and has always been tacky. I think a new design would really freshen up the company. All they really need is the alien head icon somewhere on the case. Although nothing is going to change the fact that I hate alienware.


By Reclaimer77 on 5/22/2008 11:04:35 PM , Rating: 2
Agree.

You know if I was going to spend 6k+ on a built PC, I would go with a Falcon Northwest ( http://www.falcon-nw.com/ ) simply because of their SUPERIOR case designs and their no nonsense approach.

I'm usually not a big stickler for style when it comes to computers. I believe function > form. But come on, for this much money its time to drop the juvenile case.


By Elementalism on 5/23/2008 10:02:12 AM , Rating: 2
I dont know, the picture in this article looks pretty good. I know the whole alienware thing is cheese. But that case actually looks pretty slick imo.


Expensive
By mmntech on 5/22/2008 1:09:10 PM , Rating: 2
Impressive but not exactly a top of the line rig. I recall the latest quad SLI 9800s being faster in Anandtech's benchmarks plus you'd think they could throw in 4gb ram and Vista Ultimate for $4600. Alienware has always been pricey though. I wonder how much it would cost to build it yourself.




RE: Expensive
By Shawn5961 on 5/22/2008 1:26:04 PM , Rating: 2
Well, I just did a quick price check between Newegg and Tigerdirect, and it looks like in order to match the $6,119 system, it would cost around $4,500 to build yourself ($4,100 for everything minus case and cooling, and an estimated $400 more on average depending on what type of cooling and case you prefer).


RE: Expensive
By FITCamaro on 5/22/2008 1:29:33 PM , Rating: 3
Take out the extremely expensive mobo and overpriced DDR3, and you'll spend WAY WAY less and have just as good a performance.

That system is worth $2500 at best.


RE: Expensive
By Shawn5961 on 5/22/2008 1:34:21 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I easily could have customized one that would run as good, if not better, for much less. I was just checking out the price of an exact 1:1 copy. Minus the motherboard and power supply of course, because they don't list the exact model.


RE: Expensive
By Reclaimer77 on 5/22/2008 5:07:55 PM , Rating: 2
That quad SLI 9800 setup is totally CPU limited however. With this factory overclock we should see higher video performance. In theory.


RE: Expensive
By Ish718 on 5/23/2008 12:23:18 AM , Rating: 2
Its not that its cpu limited it just isn't a good design from the start, Quad SLI doesn't scale good at all with 4 gpus especially not for the price. Just imagine the bottleneck of four gpus trying to work together...


DT Readers: High End Gaming/Workstations
By lukasbradley on 5/22/2008 1:06:35 PM , Rating: 2
I'd be interested to know what percentage of Daily Tech readers who own high end gaming and/or workstations have purchased from a boutique vendor like Alienware versus having built their own.




RE: DT Readers: High End Gaming/Workstations
By xsilver on 5/22/2008 1:17:49 PM , Rating: 2
The crux of your problem comes from what you'd call an enthusiast?

Someone that just reads DT but has no knowledge of PCs? eg. Cant build their own.

Someone that knows about PC's but would rather spend their time playing CSS than building their own.

Someone who knows about PC's but is awestruck by the aesthetic balance of a prebuilt?

I think the boutique vendors do well to not market their product to "enthusiasts" but rather people who have more money than they can spend. None of their products are bad per se. but just overpriced.


RE: DT Readers: High End Gaming/Workstations
By Shawn5961 on 5/22/2008 1:28:54 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, in a case like this with the overclocking and such, it is nice sometimes even for an enthusiast user to have a setup that has been rigorously tested prior to purchase. But at the same time, I personally don't think that stability is worth the price being 50% higher than it would be to build it yourself.


RE: DT Readers: High End Gaming/Workstations
By afkrotch on 5/22/2008 2:03:38 PM , Rating: 2
Systems like these sell well for the uninformed, lazy, etc who have lots of money.

I build all my own computers and I can tell you, there has been many a time where I would have like to just pay someone $100 to set it up for me. Course no where near the insane cost of Alienware.

My gaming machine and file server from their beginning back in 2003 to 2007. Haven't put in any new pictures since I last upgraded.

Gaming
http://www.afkrotch.com/My_Comp/?d=/Wirbelwind

Server
http://www.afkrotch.com/My_Comp/?d=/Omiokane

I'm about to swap my watercooling back to 3/8" ID, as 1/2" ID isn't needed anymore.


By Shawn5961 on 5/22/2008 2:29:59 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I totally agree. I build all my machines as well, but sometimes there are times when it'd be nice to pay an extra $100 or $200 dollars to get it setup. But an extra $2,000? I'll pass.


By OxBow on 5/22/2008 3:14:20 PM , Rating: 2
Isn't that the definition of a "boutique"?


...
By BigToque on 5/22/2008 1:01:00 PM , Rating: 5
But will it ru... oh wait.




RE: ...
By Captain828 on 5/22/2008 1:48:00 PM , Rating: 2
no... no matter how many $$$ you throw out the window


Raid 0?
By Cheapshot on 5/22/2008 1:18:53 PM , Rating: 2
Your entire OS, Apps, and data all relying on that RAID.

After recently loosing my RAID 0 set-up, I can say with certainty I would not want that storage config.

...and indeed that system should be at least 4 gigs of RAM. Spending that much money on a system and not choosing to go with 64 bit is probably 50/50 among the niche who would buy it... with another large percentage of those non adopters choosing to eventually go 64 bit during the comps life.




RE: Raid 0?
By Sureshot324 on 5/22/2008 5:40:01 PM , Rating: 3
This is the only mass marketed 4ghz system around so it will sell for that reason alone. For a lot of people this is the only option they know of to get 4ghz


Review Posted
By C64Threepwood on 5/23/2008 12:06:00 AM , Rating: 3
HardwareLogic posted a pretty extensive review of the new Area-51 ALX here:
http://hardwarelogic.com/news/138/ARTICLE/3582/200...




RE: Review Posted
By DeMagH on 5/23/2008 7:24:08 AM , Rating: 2
*funny thing, the system doesn't seem TOTALLY stable as in this page http://hardwarelogic.com/news/138/ARTICLE/3582/4/2... the superpi 32MB froze as it appears in the table.


so?
By edborden on 5/22/2008 1:10:36 PM , Rating: 2
How is this news? Not for nothing, but overclocking QX9650's to 4GHZ isn't even news, I know quite a few boutiques, including my own, who've been doing that since the chip was released.




By PianoMan on 5/24/2008 1:26:24 PM , Rating: 2
People buy these, and there is a market for it. Though we build them ourselves to save some dough, I'm sure you'll recognize an AW computer in a friend's house. You may retch, throw up on it, or otherwise - but AW's got you: you recognize their brand.

We're in the "build-your-own" minority. As much as we'd like to think so, the rest of the world doesn't have the know-how, time, and/or patience to get a overclocked gaming rig running up smoothly. Some people will pay for others to do it for them.

But for $5k? Nah, I'll pass for now.




Oc is pretty conservative.
By Reclaimer77 on 5/22/08, Rating: 0
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