Source: Defense News
quote: What propagonda are you talking about in the link?
quote: Bill Clinton: President 1993-2001National Debt in 1993 - 4 ,411,488,883,139.38National Debt in 2001 - 5 ,807,463,412,200.06
quote: I also note the debt number itself is meaningless; debt-to-GDP is the only statistic that really matters
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quote: I just know you're going to laugh at this, but yknow who i think had the right idea? Jimmy Carter. IMO, what you are experiencing now and will experience in the future is because every president after him tried to delay the pain he knew you'd have to face. It's funny really because in the beginning i thought he was wrong like everybody else did. Simply because wether it's a democrat or republican website, everybody seems to think jimmy carter was a mistake.
quote: The huge majority of those unfunded mandates.
quote: (I hope Americans realise how funny all the "liberals" talk and Obama bashing looks from the outside)
quote: I'm more than aware that the west lives in a comfortable way while other nation's children are born on landfills and fight for their daily dollar because we've gone around the world and taken when we need by force
quote: because we've gone around the world and taken when we need by force
quote: It is entitlement spending that is skyrocketing. Not military.
quote: Health insurance comapnies are powerful entities in the United States and you will absolutely not see them go away.
quote: Another misinformed person.
quote: (probably the SMALLEST impact on health costs out of all of them)
quote: Ummm... Amiga, you can't really be that dumb.
quote: Oh keep quiet; you are way out of your depth as you've already demonstrated multiple times.
quote: That report talks about how the bills show up, not where the money goes. If you're too dense to understand that rents must be paid, equipment purchased, consumables used, etc, etc, etc... not sure why we are having this discussion
quote: If the European solution is so great, then explain to me how things would have played out for myself in my own crisis.
quote: Part of that could be alleviated by stopping population growth.
quote: 1357 years until 1 person per square foot on earth
quote: markedly worse in the states
quote: Based on what?
quote: The Europeans have run into a very simple economic rule. If something is perceived as free, people will consume more of it than they would if they had to pay for it.
quote: Europe massages those numbers. American doesn't.
quote: I find it hilarious that you're claiming how much less health care costs in Europe, while many experts agree the unsustainable nature of socialized medicine is a key factor in their current collapse.
quote: Corruption, extremely generous welfare support, selling of IP to the highest bidder and selling of industrial capability are what have ruined Europe.
quote: Can you site one of these "many experts" please?
quote: Wrong! Debt has ruined Europe. Debt. On what planet do you live in where universal healthcare, Euro style, doesn't account for massive debt? This is fundamental stuff! How can you not know this?
quote: I love how you Liberals
quote: I also note that the author of the article did not include the brackets (healthcare) after the sentence you lifted. So, when the evidence does not agree with you - you just manipulate it?
quote: Later on in your post, you cannot even distinguish between social policies and heathcare; to you they are synonymous.
quote: I'm not overly liberal.
quote: All is not lost. Northern European states, especially Nordic countries, show it is possible to innovate, raise productivity and maintain generous social welfare at the same time. This is the World Bank's explanation for their success:
quote: "Europe spends more than the rest of the globe combined on social policies (healthcare) ."
quote: That last part was actually inferred by you and was not part of the original article.
quote: I won't disagree that there are interesting questions and problems, but what you posted was academically bankrupt.
quote: Honestly, the Economist now isn't a good source?
quote: neither of you have even tried to prove that European style universal healthcare is sustainable on a national scale.
quote: As for you trying to weasel your way out of your inference "I didn't say that", that's just downright cowardly. That is exactly what your post said from your first inference to the very end. Bad form.
quote: I have pointed you to Norway and Sweden time and time again and you have simply ignored them time and time again.
quote: From what I have heard, a lot of Europe operates their healthcare in a proactive manner, advocating healthy lifestyles, and pushing kids into sports and other healthy activities.
quote: Do you think that's the case in Europe? HA!
quote: I proved to you that there is an issue from many different sources
quote: The only thing you proved was that there were wait time problems in the province of Alberta, in two of Canada's fastest growing cities Edmonton and Calgary.
quote: That's the very definition of unreasonable.
quote: All you really managed to prove was that you only sees what you want to see and that you only believe things that support your arguments.
quote: The simple fact is if your system was half as efficient and progressive as you claim it to be, those conditions would NOT have existed in the first place.
quote: And those hospitals would have been built sooner BEFORE there was a crisis.
quote: Any city in the US would have faced the exact same problem because they would be inundated under a tidal wave of new people until they were able to construct and staff new facilities to handle them.
quote: The people who moved there made a choice, knowing that the system was strained and they went there anyway. If you make such a choice, deal with it.
quote: You're still avoiding the fact that the situation was unacceptable, and that does NOT happen here in America.
quote: How can you excuse that?
quote: Ha! You hear that Canadians? Iaiken extolls the virtues of the Canadian healthcare system, but if you knowingly move into an area where it happens to suck, well that's tough shit!
quote: Um... I didn't avoid that at all... conveniently for you, there is no such growth of this scale going on in the US. IF such a case happened, the exact same would happen in the private sector.
quote: I guess I could ask you the same question of why more people than the ENTIRE population of Canada have effectively no access to healthcare in the US? You're still avoiding the fact that the situation is unacceptable.
quote: 1. You're still a moron who lies about wait times2. Canada still sucks
quote: But the F35 is necessary. Two completely different roles.
quote: It just seems silly to larger eliminate an asset like the A-10 when the alternatives our equally as old and cannot do the job as effectively.
quote: Sharing in All Things 32 Now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common. 33 And with great power the apostles gave witness to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And great grace was upon them all. 34 Nor was there anyone among them who lacked; for all who were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, 35 and laid them at the apostles’ feet; and they distributed to each as anyone had need. 36 And Joses,[d] who was also named Barnabas by the apostles (which is translated Son of Encouragement), a Levite of the country of Cyprus, 37 having land, sold it, and brought the money and laid it at the apostles’ feet.