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Starting August 15, 2012, the Google Play Store will only allow devices with Flash Player already installed to receive Flash updates

Adobe confirmed today that Flash Player will not be available for Google's Android 4.1 Jelly Bean mobile operating system.

According to Adobe, Flash Player implementation requires a certain amount of testing before it can be certified for use. This ensures that Flash Player runs correctly with a device's Web browser.

However, if the devices do not undergo the required testing, they are considered uncertified by Adobe. Uncertified devices have still been able to download Flash Player from the Google Play Store, but that will not be the case for Android 4.1.

Adobe said it has not performed the tesing for Jelly Bean, hence Flash Player is not certified for the new mobile OS. Also, Adobe said it will limit Flash Player updates to devices that have certified Flash Player implementation.

Starting August 15, 2012, the Google Play Store will only allow devices with Flash Player already installed to receive Flash updates. Devices without Flash Player pre-installed will no longer be able to download it from the Google Play Store after August 15.

For those with Android 4.0 or previous versions, certified devices can continue receiving updates as long as Flash Player is installed before August 15. If a user upgrades from 4.0 to 4.1, Flash Player may have unpredictable behavior.

However, those with 4.1 will not be able to use Flash Player at all.

Source: Adobe

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Oh no!
By geddarkstorm on 6/29/2012 11:38:03 AM , Rating: 5
Oh wait. Good thing flash support is now built into mobile Chrome and Firefox 14. Sorry Adobe, but you were the one saying you were giving up on mobile flash not too long ago. Don't complain now that you are becoming completely irrelevant.

RE: Oh no!
By Spuke on 6/29/2012 12:03:09 PM , Rating: 2

RE: Oh no!
By amanojaku on 6/29/12, Rating: 0
RE: Oh no!
By geddarkstorm on 6/29/2012 12:49:33 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, the browsers themselves will play flash. AIR is not needed. It's a built in extension now bundled in the browsers. Chrome actually has had this for a while for both Desktop and Mobile. If you download Chrome, you do not need to download Flash player, or any Adobe third party software.

Similarly, this is now true for Firefox as of 14.


RE: Oh no!
By ltcommanderdata on 6/29/2012 1:56:59 PM , Rating: 3

What version of Flash is supported on Chrome for Android?
Chrome for Android will not be supporting Flash. As you may have seen in November, 2011, Adobe announced it has stopped investing in Flash for mobile browsing. Google has long been committed to making the web platform more powerful through open web technologies like HTML5 and is working with Adobe and other partners to further advance the web standard.

Are you sure Flash is available in Chrome Mobile? Google's pretty clear that they have no intention of supporting Flash on Android.

RE: Oh no!
By geddarkstorm on 6/29/2012 4:43:20 PM , Rating: 2
I hadn't seen your link before. An interesting twist since that then puts Firefox 14 above Chrome for mobile browsing.

RE: Oh no!
By Bubbacub on 6/29/2012 5:38:47 PM , Rating: 2
this needs to be publicised more.

i was getting put off jellybean for no reason till i read your post

RE: Oh no!
By V-Money on 6/29/2012 10:08:08 PM , Rating: 2
For what its worth, I am running Jellybean on my Galaxy Nexus and whereas chrome won't run flash, the stock browser still loads flash just fine. (I upgraded from ICS, and flash was already installed from before).

RE: Oh no!
By foolsgambit11 on 6/29/2012 8:16:21 PM , Rating: 2
Nope. Chrome doesn't do Flash (as another poster pointed out), and Firefox looks only to work with Flash, not include Flash - the same way Browser works on Android. I just uninstalled the Adobe Flash 11 app to check, on my Galaxy Nexus with Firefox for Android 14.0 (fully updated). Flash no longer works on the browser. So if you don't have the app installed on Jellybean (because you can't install it) then Flash will not work in Firefox.

RE: Oh no!
By foolsgambit11 on 6/29/2012 8:20:06 PM , Rating: 2
(I'm on Android 4.0.4, and a reinstall of Adobe Flash Player 11 successfully got Flash working again on Firefox for Android 14.0)

This exactly.
By Argon18 on 6/29/2012 12:28:31 PM , Rating: 4
Yet another reason why Flash player needs to die. The web should be open and free, so that anyone can build a device that can browse the web and have the full experience.

Locking users into a closed proprietary product that is only available (or not available, as the case may be) from a single company goes against the entire premise of the world wide web and the internet as a whole.

RE: This exactly.
By pklain on 6/29/2012 12:41:03 PM , Rating: 1
Naive way to look at it. Adobe doesn't allow Adobe on untested devices purely for liability reasons. A new OS is a lot more complicated than you care to perceive while tossing about what we need and don't need.

Once upon a time there was a world where we never updated Adobe Flash or Reader until a website told us it was too old to work. Now Adobe spams you with update messages. Why? Because not too long ago someone found a universal piece of code in Adobe products that could be used to exploit Adobe on pretty much any PC and do w/e. Give them viruses, or whatever they really wanted. Adobe had no way to counter because they didn't have an existing update system that wasn't "YOUR ADOBE IS OLD, GO TO THE SITE". Which most people wouldn't do. They were now a liability to have on the PC. This is called business. If you fault Adobe for this then you just don't know how the world works.

RE: This exactly.
By Argon18 on 6/29/2012 1:27:41 PM , Rating: 5
I didn't realize Adobe's PR manager reads Dailytech. Cool!

RE: This exactly.
By augiem on 6/29/2012 1:44:15 PM , Rating: 2
The web is free. Its free for a company to make their own standard and let the market decide whether they want to adopt it or not. Free market system. I assume you meant to say "The web should be open-source."

RE: This exactly.
By The Raven on 6/29/2012 2:58:05 PM , Rating: 3
Yes any company should be able to do whatever they want on the web. Does this guy not realize that without Flash we would not have had Hulu, Netflix, Youtube, etc. up until now and even then it would all be Silverblight powered (like Netflix is now)? If you are not a content provider then you wouldn't care about having options like Flash and Silverlight but other people are and don't want to give their crap away for free. Or for waiting years to make your website packed with awesomeness while some council somewhere debates on what the standards should be? I am all for openness and standards implementation, but to say that Flash is unneeded, even in this age, is nuts (as much as I have problems with it).

RE: This exactly.
By TakinYourPoints on 7/1/2012 10:37:18 PM , Rating: 2
Flash isn't obsolete, far from it, but things don't happen overnight. Its trajectory is on the downswing in mobile and complete responsibility falls at Adobe's feet. They focused far too much on the desktop platform where resources aren't constrained and completely missed the boat on optimizing for mobile.

Years later and they still can't get a mobile runtime going that is better in performance or battery life than HTML5 video or a native app. They had years to fix this with Android and they just threw in the towel. Are their engineers that incompetent or was the platform fundamanetally broken for mobile to begin with?

RE: This exactly.
By BugblatterIII on 6/29/2012 8:48:05 PM , Rating: 3
Locking users into a closed proprietary product that is only available (or not available, as the case may be) from a single company goes against the entire premise of the world wide web and the internet as a whole.

The irony being that iPhone users love that stuff and were denied it!

RE: This exactly.
By someguy123 on 6/29/2012 9:40:43 PM , Rating: 2
How is a certain type of player surviving in the current ecosystem a sign that the web "isn't free"?

Flash is just closed. nobody is forced to use flash, flash is unnecessary for a vast amount of websites, and nowadays we're seeing html5/vp6 adoption for websites that want video but don't need flash's vector morph capability. The web is as free now as it was before people started rolling out html5 over flash video.

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