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Game consoles need to be under $200 for mass market within two years, says Activision CEO

When making buying decisions, there is apparently one factor that outweighs all others: price. While there are exceptions to the rule, the concept of high price sensitivity currently applies to video game systems.

The Wii’s appeal may be much broader than the Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3, but surely Nintendo’s lower price tag attracts many for those looking to get into the current generation of games. Nevermind the Wii’s inability to play DVD movies or output high-definition visuals – it’s the most affordable current console on the market.

For Activision CEO Bobby Kotick, however, even Wii’s price point of $249 is still a bit on the high side. Kotick said at a Reuters event that he believes the key price point for mass adoption was $199 – a price currently untouched by the current generation.

Kotick believes that the PlayStation 3 is a good machine, but that the Wii is setting a new standard for the industry due to its price. The Wii is priced $150 cheaper than the entry level 40GB PS3.

"The Wii at its price point is now setting a standard and an expectation, and people say, well, the Wii is less complex technically. I don't think that really matters as much to the consumer," said Kotick.

For a games publisher such as Activision, cheaper consoles mean a potentially larger user base buying games. Not only would Kotick like for cheaper consoles such as the Wii to become the norm, he believes that all three consoles “need” to hit sub-$200 levels within the next two years.

"In the next 24 months they all will need to be at that $199 price point, and you can imagine Nintendo will be down to the $129 price point over the next few years," Kotick added.



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Nintendo already knows this
By mikefarinha on 11/30/2007 12:12:01 AM , Rating: 5
Historically Nintendo always launched their consoles at either $199 or $250.
I think the Wii could have been launched at $199 but having the closest competition at around $350ish they were able to fill the 'inexpensive console' void and still make money... Lots and lots of money!




RE: Nintendo already knows this
By Polynikes on 11/30/2007 12:17:34 AM , Rating: 2
It's still worth every penny of that $250.


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By iFX on 11/30/2007 10:55:11 AM , Rating: 2
Not to me. I haven't had a console since Super Nintendo, mostly because they are too much $$$.


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By amanojaku on 11/30/2007 2:01:20 PM , Rating: 2
You don't know what you're missing. If anything, the Wii is worth it at $250. I mean, it doesn't look as good as the PS3 or the Xbox 360, but it's FUN. Repeat: FUN!!! And you get used to the graphics, which are WAY better than the Super Nintendo's.

On the other hand, you could read a book. 10 hardcovers cost as much as a Wii...


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By iFX on 12/1/2007 6:22:26 PM , Rating: 2
Sure I do... $250.00


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By randomwalk16 on 11/30/2007 12:21:08 AM , Rating: 3
Which is interesting b/c considering they have been releasing at $199 for about 20 years (since the NES), the relative price has actually gone down, taking inflation into account.

According to
http://www.measuringworth.com/ppowerus
and using $199 and 1985 as the inital year (about the time of the NES), you get a comparable price today of around $375, which is, unsurprisingly, close to the cost of the other systems today.

Using the same site for the N64, says it would be around $250 dollars today, the same as the wii...


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By kamel5547 on 11/30/2007 12:51:31 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, but technology tends to defy inflationary pressures. In reality while prices of most items increase, those of technological items tend to spiral downward as R&D costs are recouped and manufacturing improves. Just look at PC prices, LCD prices and the like.

I guess what I am saying is that perhaps regular inflation indexing shouldn't be applied to hardware.


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By randomwalk16 on 11/30/2007 1:02:12 AM , Rating: 2
I think that that mainly applies only to technology of same level. As the hardware improves, the price tends to maintain a certain level. The bottom level tech certainly gets cheaper, but you still pay a premium for the current generation (i.e. I payed the same for my new-ish digital camera this year as I did for the a new-ish one 3 years ago).

In this case, the hardware is greatly improved from the SNES/N64/Playstation/InsertOLDSystemHere, so the price across-generations doesn't drop as you would see for same-size LCDs/same-spec PC's


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By Frank M on 11/30/2007 9:15:01 AM , Rating: 4
I disagree. A mid-range computer is significantly cheaper today than it was 10 or 15 years ago.


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By Samus on 11/30/2007 2:49:04 AM , Rating: 2
According to that site, accounting for inflation, I should be paying $3000 for an entry level dual-core notebook.

I don't think so. If anything, computers and game consoles should be getting cheaper, and they are, because production costs less now (increased volume) and there are more people buying (demand.)

And they are getting cheaper. If you had told me 10 years ago I could get a sweet ass laptop or a multi-processor desktop powerhouse for $500 bucks, I'd probably laugh.


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By killerroach on 11/30/2007 9:47:58 AM , Rating: 2
The costs of gaming are getting cheaper, though. I remember NES games running $60-$70, and that was a bargain compared to what they sold for in Japan (between $70-$125, depending on the exchange rate at the time). So, adjusted for inflation, we should be seeing $400 consoles and $130 games, where today we have $250-$500 consoles and $40-$60 games. Assuming a modest ten-game library, that means we're doing about a third better than the NES of 1985 under the worst case scenario (an 80GB PS3 and a bunch of new games), and over 60% cheaper assuming more favorable terms (a Wii with mostly new titles with a couple of slightly older ones).

As I heard somebody else mention, it sounds like Activision wants Microsoft and Sony to lower the prices on their nearly billion-transistor monoliths so they can push more of their $60 pieces of plastic. It's a gross oversimplification, I know... after all, any economist would tell you the marginal of a new AAA title may be about a dollar for each after the first, but $20-25 million for that first plastic disc :)


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By Calin on 11/30/2007 6:12:50 AM , Rating: 2
The prices for flash memory sticks are the best example of this.
Some three or four years ago, I've bought an 128MB USB memory stick. Then, last year, I've bought a 1GB unit for the same price. Now, I could buy a 4GB for just a little more


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By paydirt on 11/30/2007 9:07:09 AM , Rating: 2
I agree. The CEO of Activision is stuck in the past and shouldn't be making such ignorant comments.


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By Locutus465 on 11/30/2007 9:28:09 AM , Rating: 2
No, he's right... price is more important than ever particularly with the current squeeze on the middle class... was just reading a news article the other day about how the middle class today is technically "doing so much better" than our parents generation (salary wise), but yet at the end of the day once we've paid our bills we have sigificantly less spending money then they did.


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By Rav3n on 11/30/2007 2:15:41 PM , Rating: 2
Speaking of ignorant comments...


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By daftrok on 11/30/2007 1:20:12 AM , Rating: 2
Indeed. However if the Wii was $199 at launch the 360 would drop in price even further and the PS3 would more than likely tried to launch at $399 rather than $499


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By ZavyZavy on 11/30/2007 6:06:05 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly,

In fact Nintendo highlighted this many a time at developer conferences. Did they listen? No. But money talks and now they are listening. (Activision is acting as if they didn’t ignore the Wii at launch - like most third parties).

It’s clear that consoles need to be an ‘impulse-buy’ point so that Third Parties can increase the likelihood of making a profit on a game (because of the 3 consoles’ market proliferation).

On another note, with Nintendo’s ever growing war chest of cash, they are in a great position to engage in a price war with cash flush Microsoft and Sony – if Nintendo feels the time is right or feels threatened.


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By Chaser on 11/30/2007 8:55:07 AM , Rating: 1
OK, speculation of this sort kills me. The PS3 and the 360 are in a completely different marketing segment. But the flaw here and just about everywhere is that many compare the Wii as if its on equal ground as one of three "nexgen" gaming consoles. It's simply not. Although its a very popular and fun console for families, weekend getways and some nursing homes compared too the others it's more a low ball stocking stuffer impulse buy that's priced accordingly.

The Wii doesn't come close to the features of the 360 and the PS3's media hub capabilities. And this idea that Nintendo could start a price war? What are you smoking? Purchasers that are considering a 360 or a PS3 aren't thinking, "oh screw it, I'll save $150.00 - $200.00 and get a Wii instead. Those people, like many of us for example, are doing their homework and buying either for their titles, features or a lot of both.


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By Locutus465 on 11/30/2007 9:31:20 AM , Rating: 2
Oh god... so now not only are nintendo and everyone else in different market segments, but now Sony and Microsoft are as well... Seriously, they're all game consoles, they're all in exactly the same market segment!!! Most families are in a position to only choose one out of the three, and they'll choose the one that is most important to them price being a siginifcant factor.


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By Chaser on 11/30/2007 9:36:21 AM , Rating: 1
Maybe for little Johnny on Christmas Eve? Otherwise you couldn't be more wrong. This probably isn't too tough, check the pricing and features of each. Then make a list of the specs and capabilities of each. And while you're at it post your findings here.

I'm looking forward to reading it.


RE: Nintendo already knows this
By Locutus465 on 11/30/2007 9:51:41 AM