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Windows 8 and Atom power for $800?

AT&T announced today that it would carry Samsung's ATIV Smart PC on its growing LTE wireless network. Unlike Microsoft's $499 Surface, which runs Windows RT, the ATIV Smart PC features an x86 processor and runs Windows 8, meaning that it has backwards compatibility with the full Windows application library.
 
The promise of backwards compatibility, however, is soured a bit by the fact that the ATIV Smart PC uses a 1.5GHz, dual-core Intel Atom processor. Don't expect to be tackling any high-power applications with this tablet.

 

 
Other features include an 11.6" display (1366x768) and 64GB of storage (expandable to 96GB via the devices microSD slot).
 
“We are excited to offer the Samsung ATIV smart PC in stores nationwide ahead of the holiday shopping season,” said Chris Penrose, SVP of AT&T Emerging Devices. “Connected by the nation’s largest 4G network, this Windows 8 tablet gives customers optimized touch interface, instant live tile updates and PC capabilities."
 
The Samsung's ATIV Smart PC will be priced at $799 and will launch on November 9.


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a little bit bleh
By Nortel on 11/5/12, Rating: 0
RE: a little bit bleh
By geddarkstorm on 11/5/2012 2:01:30 PM , Rating: 3
Let alone notebooks/laptops. At 799 you're well into midrange laptop territory.


RE: a little bit bleh
By datdamonfoo on 11/5/2012 2:09:07 PM , Rating: 3
The N550 cpu is a flat out lie. It's a NEW Clover Trail atom processor.
Why did no one call you out on such a bald-faced prevarication?

From what people on The Verge are saying, those who actually have this tablet say it is fast and responsive.


RE: a little bit bleh
By Nortel on 11/5/12, Rating: 0
RE: a little bit bleh
By datdamonfoo on 11/5/2012 3:05:48 PM , Rating: 2
Not a secret. It's the new CPU developed for Windows 8 devices. A better page to look at would be..oh..I don't know...Samsung's actual website.

http://www.samsung.com/global/ativ/ativ_pc.html

Just in case you want to skip the relevant part:
Intel® Atom™ Processor Z2760 for powerful PC performance

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6340/intel-details-a...


RE: a little bit bleh
By datdamonfoo on 11/5/2012 3:07:55 PM , Rating: 2
Skip TO the relevant part, I should say.


RE: a little bit bleh
By datdamonfoo on 11/5/2012 3:09:22 PM , Rating: 2
Also, you went to the wrong wikipedia section.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_(system_on_chip)


RE: a little bit bleh
By JumpingJack on 11/6/2012 1:40:05 AM , Rating: 2
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Intel+clover+trail#

Some performance info
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6385/microsoft-surfa...

Some battery life info
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6434/51427...
(Clover trail is the ATIV smart pc, teaser graph from an Anand tweet)


RE: a little bit bleh
By Roffles on 11/5/12, Rating: 0
RE: a little bit bleh
By datdamonfoo on 11/5/2012 3:10:50 PM , Rating: 3
It ISN'T using that old processor. It's using a brand NEW processor, the Atom Z2760.


RE: a little bit bleh
By DanNeely on 11/5/2012 4:27:36 PM , Rating: 2
It's still the same old atom v1.0 micro-architecture: a better GPU and improved power efficiency (especially at idle); but no faster for nonGFX tasks than any dual core atom released in the past few years.

Atom 2.0 with a new (out of order) architecture is due out next year around the same time as haswell.


RE: a little bit bleh
By datdamonfoo on 11/5/2012 9:06:21 PM , Rating: 2
I need to see some evidence to support this statement.


RE: a little bit bleh
By nordicpc on 11/6/2012 7:03:10 AM , Rating: 2
I own one of these, just a WiFi, and compared to my old Atom Netbook, this thing screams. The Win8 apps run very quickly, no hint of load time woes like the Tegra has, and desktop apps are plenty fast. Loading up something like Acrobat Pro is a little slow (8 seconds or so), but for a tablet that gets 10 hours of battery life, I'm quite happy.


RE: a little bit bleh
By tayb on 11/5/2012 3:25:41 PM , Rating: 3
It's actually using the new Atom Clovertrail chip Z2760.

It's still Atom and early benchmarks I've seen aren't overly impressive from a performance standpoint. Power consumption seems to be the biggest improvements made.


RE: a little bit bleh
By someguy123 on 11/5/2012 4:52:54 PM , Rating: 2
You're comparing it to other tablets while calling a dual core atom too slow? What planet are you living on? I'm sure if it had a snapdragon in there you'd be singing a different tune, even though the performance per core is similar. Even websites centered around technology seem to prove that advertising is more important than actual performance.

Anyway the pricing isn't all that exciting. Seems like your regular early adopter gutting. The asus vivo seems like a much better deal, but I think that's only single core.


64GB LTE Tablet not bad considering
By aceofclubs on 11/5/2012 3:05:13 PM , Rating: 2
iPad 64gb cost 779.99

799.99 for a Windows 8 Tablet is a pretty good price.
The samsung being offered uses the new Clover trail cpu, Not an I-series cpu but from reports not bad little cpu. has SD Card slot and USB Port, Wacom S-Pen w/holder built into tablet, and if you are worried about apps since it is Full Windows 8 you have access to your legacy software.




RE: 64GB LTE Tablet not bad considering
By datdamonfoo on 11/5/2012 3:13:29 PM , Rating: 2
I agree, it's a great price, all things considered, for a Windows 8 tablet.
Still too expensive for me though. I'm looking at Windows RT tablets much harder now.


By aceofclubs on 11/5/2012 3:25:19 PM , Rating: 2
for me it is all about the stylus support. if RT had it I would jump on getting one, but sigh


64GB LTE for $799 is not bad compare to Surface.
By Roy2001 on 11/5/2012 1:06:27 PM , Rating: 1
64GB LTE for $799 is not bad compare to Surface.




By AssBall on 11/5/2012 1:09:46 PM , Rating: 2
Unfortunately, it "IS" too bad for something with less power and functionality than a 50% cost laptop...


By DFranch on 11/5/2012 2:13:50 PM , Rating: 2
All tablets cost more than a laptop. This happens to be one which has a real OS which means you can run all your apps on it. People pay almost as much for an iPad which won't run anything but apps, and nobody complains.


What do you expect
By cknobman on 11/5/2012 1:34:11 PM , Rating: 2
This is sold by AT&T so of course its going to be outrageously overpriced.

AT&T's excuse: It has LTE in it.




LTE LTE LTE LTE
By Arsynic on 11/5/2012 2:48:02 PM , Rating: 2
Even the LTE iPads are priced ridiculously.




Who are they marketing this for???
By DrApop on 11/5/2012 3:58:17 PM , Rating: 2
$799 + service contract. Who are they marketing this thing for? Who needs to have a computer connected 24/7...sure a cell phone or small pad or something but sheesh, what a waste of money. I'd say that most of us are wifi connected 75-80% of the time anyway. And carrying around an 11" pad isn't exactly super portable....and it's $799! I could be a pretty good equally portable laptop for that and could do more work on it than a tablet.

let me guess....the optional keyboard is going to run you an extra $150 or so.




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