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More chipsets, more GPUs, more options

DailyTech today reported on ATI's announcement of just how it will offer physics processing in its lineup. Using the latest Xpress 3200 (RD600) chipset, ATI is enabling physics processing by using a 3rd add-in card. Using an X1000 family card, a user can enable dedicated physics processing card after they have installed a CrossFire setup.

Physics however, remains only one of ATI's major announcements at Computex. DailyTech's legal counsel has advised us to stop posting corporate roadmap slides with trademarked logos (some sort of copyright thing), but we can still disseminate information the old fashioned way.  ATI has several new GPUs lined up for the second half of 2006:

  • RV505CE lowest end, 64-bit, 350MHz core / 250MHz memory
  • RV505LE low end, 128-bit 450MHz core
  • RV505 Pro
  • RV515 Pro

We will have more details on the above GPUs as they come.  The majority of ATI's new GPUs are expected to launch this August and September.

The last trick up ATI's sleeve for 2006 is integrated Crossfire.  ATI RV560 and RV570 will use an on-chip Crossfire logic that will allow for any motherboard to use dual GPUs in Crossfire mode.  The composite engine used in the core still does not move all of the data across the PCIe lanes, and manufacturers insist to us that some sort of dongle or bridge will be needed between each card.

ATI's upcoming RV560 is a 128-bit pipeline, 450MHz core, 650MHz memory, 16x32 6 layer PCB. Roadmaps indicate that ATI will introduce both AGP and PCIe versions in August of this year. ATI's RV570 is identical (as far as we know) to RV560 except that it will have a 256-bit pipeline instead of 128-bit. Core frequency will remain the same as well as memory frequency.

At the most high end of ATI's mid-range is the RV570XT ASIC.  RV570XT will feature everything the same as RV570XL, but have significantly higher clock speeds.  The core clock speed should reach more than 600MHz and the memory clock speeds should obtain speeds near 1.1GHz.

By the end of the year, ATI will have at least samples for what the corporate roadmap calls "R580+."  Essentially R580+ is the R580 (Radeon X1900) ASIC with GDDR4 memory.  There is no word yet on clock speeds or release dates.

OEM partners did not have any details on R600.  The ATI roadmap so far carries the company through November. We reported earlier today that ATI's RS600 chipset gets a positive showing at Computex with several board releases from ATI partners.



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shoot
By Scabies on 6/6/2006 4:38:09 PM , Rating: 2
This is me confused

Is the R600 different from the RD600 and the RS600? Or is it like R600=Ri600 (where 'i' is the specific model identifier, thus the RD and RS are both R600 chipsets?)




RE: shoot
By akugami on 6/6/2006 4:48:43 PM , Rating: 2
RD600 and RS600 are motherboard chipsets, think nforce 2, 3, 4, 5. The R600 is a codename for a GPU core, think nVidia G70, G71, G80.


RE: shoot
By UlricT on 6/6/2006 4:56:27 PM , Rating: 2
RSxxxx/RDxxxx is chipset.
Rxxxx is graphics.


RE: shoot
By surt on 6/6/2006 5:01:07 PM , Rating: 3
Wow, somebody in marketing should be losing their job. The very purpose of ever having a publicly accessible model number is to disambiguate your product lines in a straightforward manner.

For a company with only a couple of major product lines, to allow your public model numbers to collide like this is just plain negligent.


RE: shoot
By Anh Huynh on 6/6/2006 7:20:27 PM , Rating: 2
RSxxx/RDxxx and Rxxx are internal code names that most consumers will never hear about, I see nothing wrong with the current naming scheme.


RE: shoot
By RyanVM on 6/6/2006 7:21:00 PM , Rating: 2
Those are engineering codenames - nothing to do with marketing. Marketing are the people who come up with X1900XTX and other retarded names like that.


RE: shoot
By Wwhat on 6/6/2006 7:28:31 PM , Rating: 2
What? most consumers never hear about?
mr. google speaks:
Results 1 - 10 of about 80,200 for ati rs600.
Results 1 - 10 of about 575,000 for ati rd600
Results 1 - 10 of about 759,000 for ati r600.

Must be amish consumers you refer to.



RE: shoot
By Rock Hydra on 6/6/2006 8:46:40 PM , Rating: 2
That doesn't matter. They're not production model names, therefore they have nothing to do with marketing. As long as they can get them straight internally, that's what matters. It's not necessary for you to understand their codenames.


RE: shoot
By ksherman on 6/7/2006 1:47:48 AM , Rating: 2
I fail to see your point.

Just because you can google it and come up with a lot of hits, doesnt prove that the consumer sees that number.


RE: shoot
By Trisped on 6/7/2006 3:34:33 PM , Rating: 2
Those are just tech news sites. Do you remember the code numbers for the ATI 9800? What about the X300, X600, or the x1600?

I sure don't. Most of the time I just guess or look it up on Wikipedia.


Meh...
By Josh7289 on 6/6/2006 3:37:34 PM , Rating: 2
Until ATI fixes their drivers to allow 1:1 pixel scaling on LCDs, they're not getting my money.




RE: Meh...
By gersson on 6/6/2006 3:43:42 PM , Rating: 2
You've got to be kidding...

They're in Catalyst 6.5, man.

I use 1:1 for BF2 cos it doesnt properly support widescreen...

You Monitor has a say too.


RE: Meh...
By Josh7289 on 6/6/2006 4:08:50 PM , Rating: 2
First of all, monitor has NO say in it, but 1:1


RE: Meh...
By Josh7289 on 6/6/06, Rating: 0
RE: Meh...
By Phynaz on 6/6/2006 4:32:20 PM , Rating: 2
funny, I have a setting on my LCD that sets scaling options.


RE: Meh...
By Josh7289 on 6/6/2006 4:55:52 PM , Rating: 2
Some monitors are able to do this.


RE: Meh...
By Trisped on 6/7/2006 3:25:59 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, most LCD monitors scale. Unless you have a very strange LCD monitor (not a standard size) you can set the resolution to correctly correspond with your monitor. In fact, good monitors come with a drivers disk that tells the video card what resolutions, refresh rates, and color depth are available on your monitor.

It sounds like you are complaining about a problem either with your monitor drivers or the game/full screen program you are running. As has been noted else where, not all games support wide screen resolutions. Some can be hacked to, but most are designed to work only with 4:3 monitors. Sorry, this isn't ATI OR NVIDIA's fault.

And don't forget, NVIDIA has problems with their drivers too.


emm..
By JoKeRr on 6/6/2006 10:53:19 PM , Rating: 2
Geforce X1900?? wtf??? Isn't it supposed to be Radeon X1900 instead?




RE: emm..
By AMDfreak on 6/6/2006 11:01:11 PM , Rating: 2
Holy mixed marchitechure Batman!


RE: emm..
By Visual on 6/7/2006 1:47:58 AM , Rating: 1
nah, your info is out of date.
it's been geforce ever since nvidia bought ati.


RE: emm..
By Chillin1248 on 6/7/2006 2:29:00 AM , Rating: 3
Don't tell me you also missed out on the Radeon 7900? Man you are out of date...


RE: emm..
By Tuan Nguyen on 6/7/2006 3:56:42 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry about that. Fixed.


Tuan


Is this where we are heading?
By clementlim on 6/6/2006 3:25:14 PM , Rating: 2
Is this it? Being softly "forced" to use dual GPU? Hope they will use dual cores...




RE: Is this where we are heading?
By surt on 6/6/2006 3:32:44 PM , Rating: 2
There's little point in dual core for graphics.

Dual core allows x86 processors to run multiple threads simultaneously. Graphics processors are already extremely parallel, and have plenty of room for further parallelization at the instruction level. Basically, rather than ever do dual core, they'll just keep making their processors able to handle more pixels in parallel. Or from another perspective, they are already at 16 'cores' and counting.

They don't want to make a single, double wide chip because yeilds would be problematic. So instead, they'll put 2 or more GPUS on a single board.


RE: Is this where we are heading?
By clementlim on 6/6/2006 3:36:27 PM , Rating: 2
So I guess going the GeForce 7950GX2 route then? Oh, i can feel my wallet burning...


RE: Is this where we are heading?
By surt on 6/6/2006 3:55:55 PM , Rating: 2
Indeed, though I'd expect with refinement that they'll get two GPUs onto one PCB intead of 2 pcbs.


Any SLI board?
By Doormat on 6/6/2006 3:58:53 PM , Rating: 2
"The last trick up ATI's sleeve for 2006 is integrated Crossfire. ATI RV560 and RV570 will use an on-chip Crossfire logic that will allow for any motherboard to use dual GPUs in Crossfire mode. "

I believe the AT article yesterday said that this wont work on the new i965 MCH because of disabled peer writes or something like that in the PCI-E implementation.




RE: Any SLI board?
By haelduksf on 6/6/2006 8:16:25 PM , Rating: 2
I believe that means that *current* crossfire won't work on i965 mobos. The new crossfire implementation might be able to squeeze around that.


RE: Any SLI board?
By Trisped on 6/7/2006 3:32:04 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe they meant any SLI/Crossfire/Third party SLI
Mother board would work with their new cards. It is doubtful that the i965 will have the 2 PCIe 16x ports to even try this on.

We (well, mainly AT) have complained about proprietary boards, well now ATI has opened the market up to allow crossfire cards to work on anyone's board designed to support multi GPU set ups. This is what the promised to begin with isn't it?


ATI R600
By GNStudios on 6/8/2006 2:25:59 AM , Rating: 2
Does ANYONE know anything about R600? I've been waiting a long time...




RE: ATI R600
By ElFenix on 6/9/2006 9:43:35 AM , Rating: 2
It'll have quad band memory, 64 unified pipes, and be able to make coffee in the morning.


RE: ATI R600
By The Cheeba on 6/11/2006 2:11:42 AM , Rating: 2
But it won't save you money on car insurance.


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