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A monthly release adds a little something special

AMD's graphics division has released ATI Catalyst 9.3 drivers with full support for Windows 7, including Windows Display Driver Model (WDDM) 1.1 compliance for ATI Radeon HD 4000, 3000, and 2000 series of graphics cards.

All future ATI Catalyst postings will deliver one single unified driver for both Windows 7 and Windows Vista, allowing Windows 7 beta testers the convenience of swapping back and forth between the two operating systems without the hassle of multiple drivers which may have differing builds.

Gaming performance has also been improved for Windows 7, increasing its lead over Windows Vista. Catalyst 9.3 supports the Direct2D API introduced in Windows 7, which could improve everything from ClearType text rendering to hardware-accelerated vector graphics. Improved Folding@Home scores are also promised for ATI Radeon HD 4000, 3000, and 2000 series of graphics cards.

AMD also noted that the Windows Vista HDMI audio driver is now automatically included in the ATI Catalyst 9.3 package, but will only be installed if the AMD graphics accelerator has an HDMI display connector and there is no 3rd party HDMI audio driver installed.

It does not feature support for DirectX 11 as there are no cards to support it. However, DirectX 11 is built using DirectX 10.1 as a foundation, which AMD has a lot of experience with. DX11 is expected to be a major focal point for game developers, riding on the popularity of the unreleased Windows 7 operating system. 64-bit gaming is also expected to increase, since the majority of Windows 7 shipments will be of the 64-bit variety.

Previous Catalyst releases this year have included OpenGL 3.0 support and a 20% improvement in Crysis.

ATI's Catalyst drivers are released monthly, with a focus on bug fixes and improved program compatibility. 64-bit drivers are also available for Windows. Catalyst drivers can be found here.



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Does anyone else..
By rudolphna on 3/19/2009 10:16:22 AM , Rating: 4
Not like ATi's new driver download setup? I miss the old one, it was much easier to navigate, with a cool download page. What the heck AMD? I love your cards, and wont ever buy NVIDIA, but why revamp a perfectly good, easy to navigate website, to this?




RE: Does anyone else..
By omnicronx on 3/19/2009 10:24:48 AM , Rating: 3
Ya I noticed that too, I couldn't find what I was looking for a few days ago, so I searched it on Google and found the old search page is still working.

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index....


RE: Does anyone else..
By aftlizard on 3/19/2009 10:37:09 AM , Rating: 2
Well if ATI and Microsoft does things correctly you won't need to go and search for them at all, it should become available through Windows Update.


RE: Does anyone else..
By omnicronx on 3/19/2009 10:50:37 AM , Rating: 4
Well if someone knew what they were talking about, they would know that Windows Update only provides the display driver itself. If you want the software, in this case CCC or the HDMI driver, you need to go the the manufacturer. Furthermore if you want the latest and greatest, the manufacturer will always be the best place to get it.

It would not be in Microsoft's best interests to start installing 3rd party software via Windows update, so I am not too sure what you point is.


RE: Does anyone else..
By omnicronx on 3/19/2009 10:58:21 AM , Rating: 2
P.S Other platforms are years behind in driver updates, I find that in terms of video drivers, Windows update is more up to date than OSX and any Linux distro I have ever tried.


RE: Does anyone else..
By bebesito21 on 3/19/2009 11:20:45 AM , Rating: 2
Actually, M$ does install drivers that are WHQL certified. You can get NVIDIA drivers through Windows Update. Microsoft is pushing to make Windows 7 as autonomous as possible so if ATI can pass their testing, I bet their drivers will be auto updated by windows as well.


RE: Does anyone else..
By omnicronx on 3/19/2009 12:49:49 PM , Rating: 2
As I already stated, its only the driver. Microsoft does not support third party software downloads via Windows update, nor should they.


RE: Does anyone else..
By overzealot on 4/2/2009 4:51:16 AM , Rating: 2
The average user won't touch CCC, if it's installed.
The advanced user won't install CCC, if they can help it.
I see it as a win-win


RE: Does anyone else..
By aftlizard on 3/19/2009 12:59:55 PM , Rating: 1
Since you were so nice let me provide for you a quick and dirty basic reading comprehension lesson.

If you had read what I wrote more closely you would have noticed the conjunction "if" .That word when used in conjunction with the auxiliary function "would" became a postulation or wish stating a desirable outcome.


RE: Does anyone else..
By omnicronx on 3/19/2009 1:25:18 PM , Rating: 1
If Ati and Nvidia drivers were not already available via Windows Update then perhaps you would have a point.

I also covered my bases noting that it would not be a smart idea for Microsoft to package any third party software via Windows update. So either way, your comment has no merit, although I do commend your spelling and grammar skills ;)


RE: Does anyone else..
By aftlizard on 3/19/2009 2:25:03 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe I am wrong but I thought the argument was over ATI catalyst package. Sure you can get the drivers but if you want full control and functionality you have to go to ATI and download the catalyst control center.


RE: Does anyone else..
By Mitch101 on 3/19/2009 10:53:35 AM , Rating: 2
It should but I did that and lost the Catalyst interface and it didn't detect my monitors default resolution after the Microsoft update of the ATI drivers. It also defaulted to a lower resolution and wouldn't allow the higher resolution of my monitor.

Yes easier navigation needs to return as most people going to AMD/ATI's website is for drivers.


RE: Does anyone else..
By GreenEnvt on 3/19/2009 11:00:49 AM , Rating: 2
Goto http://ati.amd.com
Click "Graphics Drivers" in the support column.


RE: Does anyone else..
By rudolphna on 3/19/2009 12:14:18 PM , Rating: 2
not quite what i meant. I mean, the old navigation was a heirchial column interface, or something like that. What OS you running? Vista. Ok, new column next to it, 32 or 64 bit? click. next column, What series? and so on. this new one is more annoying.


RE: Does anyone else..
By GreenEnvt on 3/19/2009 2:52:33 PM , Rating: 2
Unless you are seeing something different then I am, thats what I posted for you.

The steps I posted bring you to the page where it asks OS, then type of card, and finally model.


RE: Does anyone else..
By rudolphna on 3/19/2009 4:57:57 PM , Rating: 2
That link brings me, and www.ati.com brings me to the AMD support page, which has to reload the pag for each thing selected. and, at the end, it doesnt end up at a page like this- http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=...
Though, in my search for that page, I found out you can go to game.amd.com and it is a much nicer looking page than the regular AMD support page.


RE: Does anyone else..
By inighthawki on 3/19/2009 10:43:49 PM , Rating: 2
Not sure what you're doing, but if u go to that page (or even amd.com), click "Graphics Drivers" under the support column (second column along bottom), you can do exactly what you want. Granted it's not all black and shiny, but in the exact same format and gives the same options. (same page, different theme)


RE: Does anyone else..
By FaceMaster on 3/20/2009 10:54:38 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I love your cards, and wont ever buy NVIDIA


Strange how he gets voted up for such a biased post. Sure, the rest of his post states something important, but when ever I see a comment with a bit like this in favor of Nvidia, all of the responses slate the poster for their fanboyism.

Think about it.


RE: Does anyone else..
By rohith10 on 3/20/2009 2:41:43 PM , Rating: 2
It's called subjective opinion. It will always be biased.


RE: Does anyone else..
By FaceMaster on 3/20/2009 9:03:40 PM , Rating: 2
That works both ways


RE: Does anyone else..
By overzealot on 4/2/2009 4:59:33 AM , Rating: 2
He didn't claim his preferred brand was better in any way.
Most people can deal with a self-confessed fanboi that isn't trying to prove something based solely on opinion.


Good times
By Silverel on 3/19/2009 10:03:51 AM , Rating: 3
Among other things, F@H has also received some optimisations too. Between 10-20% PPD gain on 3k-4k models.

Also, some CPU loads in games have been averted to the GPU for processing. Typically only in games where your GPU is nowhere near capacity.

WDDI (windows desktop, basically) has also been offloaded to the GPU, so wimpy processors will no longer be pounded on when you play with your Aero like the lil freak you are.




RE: Good times
By rudolphna on 3/19/2009 10:13:15 AM , Rating: 1
Well that certainly wont really help people who are running Intel GMA graphics cards will it?


RE: Good times
By Silverel on 3/19/2009 10:52:06 AM , Rating: 5
No, not at all.

Why would you even bother posting something like that?

For the record, this will not help your nVidia, Matrox, SiS, or pre-2k ATI GPU's either. It also does not plant bananas, nor will it wash your dog. It might look good on your head, but we will all laugh at you. Software is also not food, do not eat it.

Got more stupid to lay down?


RE: Good times
By omnicronx on 3/19/2009 11:12:02 AM , Rating: 1
I think his point was how many people have a crappy CPU but a good GPU? People with underpowered CPU's likely have an underpowered GPU too, thus the GMA comment.


RE: Good times
By Silverel on 3/19/2009 11:54:05 AM , Rating: 3
The Intel GMA has nothing at all to do with AMD GPU's...almost.

Like less than nothing. In fact, some would go so far as to reason they are competing companies. If ANYTHING, it would be smart for AMD to release drivers that make GMA look bad in comparison. This roundabout way of thinking is the only thing I can see relating to Intel GMA from this article. It's a long long stretch, but if you insist on having it in the discussion, I can put it in easier terms.

ZOMG! AMD fuggzor pwnzez teh Intel GMA! Stoopid GMA can't haz the AMD Driverz~~!!!one1 one... ah. One.

Kay?


RE: Good times
By rudolphna on 3/19/2009 12:16:39 PM , Rating: 2
I was referring to Windows 7 offloading CPU load to the GPU. Nothing to do with the AMD driver at all. But, if people who have a crappy CPU that would need to offload, would likely have a bad GPU too. And if its an Intel system... its probably an Intel GMA graphics chip.


RE: Good times
By Silverel on 3/19/2009 2:37:04 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, it is something to do with the new drivers. Else I wouldn't have mentioned it.


RE: Good times
By omnicronx on 3/19/09, Rating: 0
RE: Good times
By Silverel on 3/19/2009 2:39:28 PM , Rating: 2
ATI wrote their drivers to fully utilize WDDI in the manner it was intended. This means that on ATI gear, you get the stated benefits.

It has nothing to do with anything else.

I acknowledge that WDDI has been around, this is a performance enhancement. All other GPU's need not apply.

Please stop trying to eat the software.


RE: Good times
By omnicronx on 3/19/2009 4:45:34 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
ATI wrote their drivers to fully utilize WDDI in the manner it was intended. This means that on ATI gear, you get the stated benefits.
Now I understand what you meant, you are talking about the addition of WDDM 1.1 support (and the addition of Hardware video overlay DDI, 2D accelerated GUI etc...)

But.. Nvidia has done exactly the same thing, so I still don't know where you are going with this. This is NOT limited to ATI. In fact I had Windows 7 beta WDDM 1.1 drivers when I first installed Windows 7 in January.


RE: Good times
By omnicronx on 3/19/2009 4:46:17 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
In fact I had Windows 7 beta WDDM 1.1 drivers when I first installed Windows 7 in January.
For my Nvidia card that is.


Meh
By legoman666 on 3/19/2009 10:40:38 AM , Rating: 2
I've been using the Vista x64 driver in my Windows 7 x64 install with no problems. Their previous Windows 7 pre-release driver was a piece of crap. The Vista driver worked better.




RE: Meh
By Spivonious on 3/19/2009 11:34:35 AM , Rating: 2
Did they add OpenGL support yet? I went back to Vista because too many games I like require it. (among some other problems I had with 7)


RE: Meh
By Pakman333 on 3/19/2009 1:33:44 PM , Rating: 1
From the article:

"Previous Catalyst releases this year have included OpenGL 3.0 support and a 20% improvement in Crysis."


3 driver releases this year...
By gonks on 3/19/2009 4:01:35 PM , Rating: 2
and still dxva is missing...




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