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HIS X1950 Pro IceQ3 Turbo

MSI RX1950 Pro

Sapphire Radeon X1950 Pro
The X1950 Pro launches, officially that is

ATI today announced its new mid-range Radeon X1950 Pro graphics card. DailyTech previously unveiled the performance of ATI’s RV570 Radeon X1950 Pro. The new Radeon X1950 Pro is ATI’s first 80nm graphics core and features 36 pixel shaders, eight vertex shaders and 12 texture processing units. It will be replacing ATI’s current mid-range Radeon X1900GT at the $199 price point and slot right below ATI’s previously released Radeon X1900XT 256MB. Radeon X1950 Pro graphics cards are equipped with 256MB of GDDR3 memory clocked at 690 MHz for an effective 1380 MHz while the RV570 GPU is clocked at 575 MHz.

All new Radeon X1950 Pro graphics cards feature two dual-link DVI outputs with full support for HDCP encryption for high definition video playback. There is also a TV-out port as well. Radeon X1950 Pro graphics cards are currently only available in PCI Express and require an auxiliary six-pin power connector. Instead of requiring an external CrossFire dongle, ATI Radeon X1950 Pro graphics cards will use an internal CrossFire dongle, similar to NVIDIA’s SLI connector.

ATI add-in board partners HIS, MSI and Sapphire has announced its Radeon X1950 Pro based products as well. HIS modifies ATI’s design by equipping the Radeon X1950 Pro with its IceQ dual-slot heat-pipe cooling technology. The IceQ cooling solution resembles that of ATI’s Radeon X1950XTX and has found its way onto HIS’ X1950 Pro IceQ3 Turbo. HIS claims the IceQ cooler delivers 11 degrees Celsius lower temperature than ATI’s stock cooler. The IceQ cooler also reacts to UV lighting which makes it a perfect match for DFI’s LanPartyUT series of enthusiast motherboards. The HIS X1950 Pro IceQ3 Turbo is clocked at the default 575 MHz core and 690 MHz memory and comes equipped with 256MB of GDDR3 video memory. Dual dual-link DVI and VIVO is also supported on the HIS X1950 Pro IceQ3 Turbo.

MSI’ RX1950 Pro takes a different approach with the Radeon X1950 Pro. This time around MSI pairs the Radeon X1950 Pro GPU with 512MB of GDDR3 memory clocked at 700 MHz. The stock 575 MHz core clock is maintained with the RX1950 Pro though. Similar to the HIS X1950 Pro IceQ3 Turbo, the MSI RX1950 Pro has a dual-slot cooler as well. While all Radeon X1950 Pro graphics cards support dual dual-link DVI and HDCP compliance, there’s no mention if the MSI RX1950 Pro supports VIVO features as well.

Lastly on the Radeon X1950 Pro launch list is Sapphire with its Radeon X1950 Pro. The Sapphire Radeon X1950 Pro resembles ATI’s reference design, albeit the PCB is blue instead of red. As with the ATI card, the Sapphire Radeon X1950 Pro is clocked at 575 MHz core and 690 MHz memory with support for dual dual-link DVI, VIVO and HDCP functionality. Unlike HIS and MSI, Sapphire has opted to equip its Radeon X1950 Pro with a single-slot cooler.

ATI claims the Radeon X1950 Pro is shipping and available now at around $199.

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Who would buy it?
By PrinceGaz on 10/17/06, Rating: 0
RE: Who would buy it?
By sotti on 10/17/2006 12:26:42 PM , Rating: 3
if you need HDCP for a media center computer, something like this is a great card, has all the muscle needed for H.264, and HD video processing (mainly de-interlace).

Also it may be 6mo before there is a $200 DX10 like you said, and if you are upgrading or building a new rig today because your old system is decrepit and you just can't wait any longer, then this would be a great value.

RE: Who would buy it?
By HakonPCA on 10/17/2006 12:45:06 PM , Rating: 5
um...anyone who wants a better graphic card NOW and have a great computer for the next 12-18+ months.

I'm sick of people saying that anyone who buys a card now is an idiot. People like you have been saying that for 8 months now, and vista for most people - even enthusiast gamers - is STILL a minimum of 4+ months away and even then most games coming out won't be DX10 right away. Not to mention the first generation of DX10 cards will probably be $350-650, and like any first generation product, will probably need some minor/major changes before the second generation. Not to mention that it will probably be until the third generation of DX10 when we start to see power supplies that use less energy than our refridgerators.

So I guess I should just sit on a crappy GPU instead of buying a midrange $150-200 card that will last me well into next year when I can buy vista, and DX10, and a game or two to play it with.

It is very likely that DX10 will be integrated much more quickly that DX9, but even then how long did it take for all new games to Require DX9, like 3-4 years or more. Again its likely to be much quicker for DX10 but even if its 18 months that puts us in Q2 of 2008, I think a x1950, x1900, or 7900 or 7950 for that matter will do just nicely for all but the most bleeding edge gamers who spend $1000 on a processor and $500 for a video card.

Maybe for you and a lot of other people it doesn't make sense to buy this card, but it's ignorant to assume that this card doesn't make sense for anyone else. In fact, it's price point will help drive down other high-range DX9 cards.

Sorry, I'm just sick of people making blanket statements about what others should or shouldn't do.

RE: Who would buy it?
By smitty3268 on 10/17/2006 1:12:50 PM , Rating: 3
Why in the world would you want to buy a first gen midrange DX10 card? You can bet they'll be more expensive and more power hungry than a comparable DX9 card, and they're not going to be fast enough to run DX10 games when they come out in a year or two anyway.

RE: Who would buy it?
By Stosh68 on 10/17/2006 2:22:20 PM , Rating: 2
Probably the same people who go to CompUSA and pay hundred's of dollars to have a hard drive installed or their computer scanned for viruses. Those who don't know better, who make up the majority of the buying market.

so many cards
By Loser on 10/17/2006 5:31:23 PM , Rating: 2
is anyone still following? it surely was hard enough with those crazy pro//gto//gt///gtx mix where it ment different things on ati and nvidia
now they came up with even more prefixes and for each of them there is a ,50 version as in 1950 etc

RE: so many cards
By Chillin1248 on 10/17/2006 5:43:08 PM , Rating: 5
Here is a little list I made for amusements sake:

Nvidia 6 and 7 Series:

6200 LE
6200 LE TC (Turbo-Cache)
6200 SE TC (Turbo-Cache)
6200 TC (Turbo-Cache)
6600 LE
6600 128MB
6600 256MB DDR2
6600 GT
6610 XL
6700 XL
6800 XE
6800 LE
6800 XT
6800 GS
6800 GT
6800 Ultra
7100 GS
7300 SE
7300 LE
7300 GS
7300 GT
7500 LE
7600 LE
7600 GS
7600 GST
7600 GT
7800 SE (OEM?)
7800 LE (OEM?)
7800 XT (OEM?)
7800 GS
7800 ZT (OEM?)
7800 LT (OEM?)
7800 GT
7800 GTX
7800 GTX (Ultra) 512MB
7800 GX2
7900 GS
7900 GT
7900 GTO
7950 GT
7900 GTX
7900 GX2
7950 GX2


ATI Xxx and X1xxseries :

X300 LE
X300 SE
X300 SE Hyper Memory
X550 Hyper Memory
X550 XT
X600 SE
X600 Pro
X600 XT
X700 SE
X700 LE
X700 Pro
X700 XT
X740 XL
X800 128MB
X800 256MB
X800 GTO
X800 GTO/2
X800 Pro
X800 XL
X800 XL 512MB
X800 XT PE
X850 SE
X850 Pro
X850 XT
X850 XT Crossfire Edition
X850 XT PE
X1300 Pro
X1300 XT
X1600 Pro
X1600 XT
X1650 Pro
X1650 XT
X1800 GTO
X1800 XL
X1800 XT
X1800 Crossfire Edition
X1900 GT
X1900 Pro
X1900 AIW
X1900 XT 256MB
X1900 XT 512MB
X1900 XTX
X1950 Pro
X1950 XT
X1950 XTX
X1900 Crossfire Edition
X1950 Crossfire Edition


Anyone want to start listing the specs and performance AND prices of all the cards above? :)


Hmmm...all the cards look cool...
By Heron Kusanagi on 10/17/2006 12:14:27 PM , Rating: 2
But I got to admit, I love the Powercolour one with Arctic Silencer cooler. Cost about S$369 in Singapore and is clocked higher out of the box.

RE: Hmmm...all the cards look cool...
By Mavke on 10/18/2006 4:13:46 AM , Rating: 2
Jeps that is true... The PowerColor comes higher clocked on both core and memory by 20MHz.

Paired with X1950 Crossfire Edition
By scoombs on 10/17/2006 4:49:09 PM , Rating: 2
Would one of these boards function as a slave paired to an X1950 Crossfire Edition through the external cable dongle?

By OvErHeAtInG on 10/17/2006 7:54:13 PM , Rating: 2
Even if it did, it would be downclocked to the Pro speed, as well as decreasing the amount of memory available by half. I would just stick with the single 1950, or get a second XTX.

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