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Spanish technology website MadBoxPC has the scoop on ATI’s latest chipset roadmap. The roadmap outlines new details on ATI’s upcoming RS690, RX690, RD550, RD790, RX790, RS790 and RS740 chipsets.

ATI’s upcoming RS690 series of chipsets include the RS690, RS690C which are both integrated graphics products. There isn’t much mention of official product names for RS690 and RS690C yet, however, the roadmap hints towards Radeon Xpress 1250 and Radeon Xpress 1200 for RS690 and RS690C respectively. Both integrated graphics chipsets feature a Radeon X700 derived graphics core with support for AVIVO technology. AVIVO features such as vector adaptive de-interlacing and advanced downscaling are supported for an improved media PC experience. The graphics core is equipped with four pixel-pipelines as well.

There’s very little difference between the RS690 and RS690C, with the exception of native HDMI support. RS690 includes support for HDMI output while the RS690C removes it for lower costs. Derived from the RS690/RS690C is the upcoming RX690. RX690 is ATI’s single PCI-Express x16 slot solution for the enthusiast that doesn’t want support for ATI’s CrossFire multi-GPU technology. The RX690 chipset will be completely pin compatible with RS690. There’s no mention when RS690 or RX690 will be available, however RS690C availability is expected in November.

In a move to push the RD480 CrossFire Xpress 1600 down to a value level, ATI will release RD550 for the less than $100 market. This will move RD480 CrossFire Xpress 1600 motherboards down to the $60 price point and leave RD580 CrossFire Xpress 3200 at the $120+ price point. ATI has named RD550 CrossFire Xpress 3100. RD550 is based off of ATI’s high-end RD580 CrossFire Xpress 3200 but lacks the dual full-speed PCI Express x16 configuration. ATI is aiming to take on NVIDIA’s nForce 570 SLI with RD550 CrossFire Xpress 3100.

Further down the product roadmap are the RD790, RX790, RS790 and RS740 chipsets. These chipsets will arrive in the second half of 2007 and first half of 2008. RD790 will be the first to arrive and will carry the CrossFire Xpress moniker. This will be a high end enthusiast chipset with support for AMD’s 4x4 platform. It will support socket 1207 processors, AMD’s Hyper Transport 3.0 specification and quad-core processors. Four graphics cards and PCI Express 2.0 will be supported as well. Replacing the upcoming RX690 will be the RX790. RX790 will be a single graphics slot product with support for Hyper Transport 3.0.

On the integrated graphics side of things will be RS790 and RS740. These two chipsets will feature an integrated graphics, though it is unknown which graphics core it will be derived from. RS790 will be the high end integrated graphics offering with support for Microsoft’s upcoming DirectX 10 architecture. ATI’s Universal Video Decoder is also supported. RS740 will have a DirectX 9 graphics core and no support for ATI’s UVD.

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By TacticalTrading on 10/9/2006 2:14:55 PM , Rating: 3
I am hearing that Intel may increase its stake in Nvida and with the ATI / AMD merger, try and get Nvida to focus more on Intel rather than AMD.

That doesn't make that much sense for Nvida though because the bulk of their chipset line is focused towards AMD.

Once they get the kinks worked out, AMD / ATI should work out well.

By GoatMonkey on 10/9/2006 2:42:04 PM , Rating: 2
It does make sense for nVidia to focus on Intel products, at least in the long term. You can bet that ATI will get first access to any information relating to creating new AMD motherboard chipsets. Even if Intel doesn't ask nVidia to focus on their products it will happen naturally.

ATI could be months ahead in their chipset development for future AMD chipsets compared to nVidia, VIA, etc., just from the early information, leading to ATI looking like they are better.

By ZmaxDP on 10/23/2006 1:35:16 PM , Rating: 2
I might point out that Nvidia is already in the position with Intel that it will eventually be with AMD. Currently, Nvidia lags a bit behind Intel with their chipsets, and it is quite possible that they will end up similarly with AMD. If anything, this will balance Nvidia's focus between brands rather than focus it more on one than the other. Then again, AMD has made it clear that they do not envision their relationship with Nvidia changing drastically in the chipset segment. I think their acquisition of ATI has little to do with the Chipset front as they have had the opportunity to make their own chipsets in the past, have made a few, and generally got out of that sector as soon as they could. This merger was about changes in the wind that AMD forsees. Whether they will happen or not is the big question, but with Vista and Aero Glass leading the way in terms of more closely connecting graphics hardware with system hardware, it looks to be a very smart decision.

By Viditor on 10/9/2006 3:15:50 PM , Rating: 2
I am hearing that Intel may increase its stake in Nvida

I don't believe Intel owns a single share of Nvidia at present, so one share would be an increase... :)
That said, Intel must be very careful if they plan to buy Nvidia shares as the DOJ will be looking over their shoulder with a magnifying glass.

I doubt strongly that Intel will be able to exert much influence over Nvidia with that kind of scrutiny.

In addition, I also believe that AMD will continue loaning out their engineers to Nvidia to keep them up to speed. They said as much during the merger announcement...

By Griswold on 10/10/2006 4:49:04 AM , Rating: 3
I don't believe Intel owns a single share of Nvidia at present, so one share would be an increase... :)

Digitimes claims otherwise, but then again, its just digitimes.

By Fanon on 10/10/2006 9:33:50 AM , Rating: 2
Why would Intel *want* a company to produce a competing line of chipsets, especially a line that's virtually the same as far as performance goes?

The only thing I can see Intel being interested in is using nVidia integrated graphics.

I'm wondering
By Xajel on 10/9/2006 2:02:09 PM , Rating: 2
do you guys think the AMD/ATi Merger will make ATi chipset take the crown from nVIDIA's once ??

RE: I'm wondering
By PT2006 on 10/9/2006 2:05:54 PM , Rating: 2
Well considering AMD's stable image platform is going to use ATI chipsets, instead of NVIDIA chipsets, I can pretty much assure you NVIDIA is going to have to refocus on 3d cards.

RE: I'm wondering
By Flunk on 10/9/2006 3:02:14 PM , Rating: 2
Let's just put it this way. With the merger AMD will be pushing AMD's chipsets and even if they do not perform better than the Nvidia equivalent they will probably outsell them anyway if AMD manages to follow on Intel's coat-tails with their "plaform strategy" initiatives.

Now there are a lot of ifs there but it could mean a much greater focus on the part of Nvidia towards Intel platforms.

RE: I'm wondering
By jp7189 on 10/9/2006 3:52:15 PM , Rating: 3
Intel has a clamp on mainstream business, and likely AMD will use AMD branded chipsets to offer the 'complete package' and crack in to the business market.

NVIDIA on the other hand is likely to continue with Intel and AMD chipsets for the enthusiast market.

Ati no more intel chipset
By electriple9 on 10/9/2006 4:05:10 PM , Rating: 2
Will Ati stop making Intel chipsets. Also the nvidia chipsets have been kind of bad lately. Intel makes excellent chipsets for their platform.

RE: Ati no more intel chipset
By jkresh on 10/9/2006 4:17:04 PM , Rating: 2
It is possible but at the moment they have suggested that they will continue making Intel chipsets. Also ATI makes a fair amount of money with Intel chipsets and I don’t think AMD would want to give that up. With Intel suggesting that they won’t be making gaming chipsets (i.e. if you want sli/crosssfire you will have to go ATi/Nvidia) in the future AMD would be giving up a large market for its cards if it didn’t supply crossfire boards for Intel chips.

Oh come on
By TheRequiem on 10/9/2006 5:29:50 PM , Rating: 3
You guys...

All the AMD/ ATI merger will do is call for integrated and performance solutions, as ATI will developed the motherboads, graphics and etc. However, I still see Nvidia being a big player on the AMD team, not just developing motherboards, but also making physics, and powerful graphics solutions for both Intel and AMD.

Nvidia is not ousted this generation or the next in the business with AMD. However, I imagine sometime after this decade they will have trouble defeating ATI on AMD grounds due to intergation of both products. For the next TWO years however, that won't happen as there is nothing they are integrating together.

AMD bought ATI to survive Intels onslaught and gain higher ground in motherboard and graphics manufacturing... this does not signal the end of Nvidia/ AMD collaboration for the present time.

er... R600?
By JNo on 10/10/2006 7:35:28 AM , Rating: 3
This is great but maybe ATI should just concentrate on getting chipsets out the door that work with Conroe and have 2 x16 pcie lanes for full crossfire....

(unless they already do in which case please correct me, have been out of the news for couple of weeks - but that was my latest understanding)

By Hydrofirex on 10/9/06, Rating: -1
RE: DX9?
By GoatMonkey on 10/9/2006 2:34:54 PM , Rating: 1
Well, they are talking about motherboard chipsets, so that is DX9 integrated on the motherboard. At that point DX9 will still be fine as integrated video on a server. People wanting to run Vista, of course, are not going to be able to use all of the features with a setup like that, they'll have to buy an add in video card.

RE: DX9?
By Spoelie on 10/9/2006 2:55:36 PM , Rating: 5
Since when do you need a DX10 card to display aero??

you only need such a card for dx10 games, not for any of vista's features.

RE: DX9?
By GoatMonkey on 10/9/2006 3:33:43 PM , Rating: 1
Yeah, you're right. I misread the requirements on Vista.

RE: DX9?
By Dactyl on 10/9/2006 3:35:43 PM , Rating: 2
Almost everyone beta testing Vista has a DX9 card... and Aero is part of the beta... right?

RE: DX9?
By Garreye on 10/9/2006 6:28:25 PM , Rating: 5
You don't need DX10 to display aero, you need DX10 to use all the features of aero and to allow mutliple apps to have threads running on the gpu.

DX9 only allows one app to use the GPU at once. So right now with a DX9 card and Vista if you open a program that use the gpu (Java apps and most media players) Vista give up control of the GPU and reverts to the basic color scheme and lets that program take control of the GPU. DX10 GPUs will allow mutliple apps to run through it at once, so Vista will be able to have aero runnign at the same time as other programs that are using the GPU at the same time.

I think this is why Windows will now be managing the memory (and paging graphic memory with DX10) and other resources on the GPU, like it dos with system resources. I believe DX10 requires some major architectural changes from DX9, as well as major updates to drivers (WWMD), to make all this happen.

RE: DX9?
By KaiserCSS on 10/9/2006 7:52:06 PM , Rating: 2
I have an excellent acroynm for moments like these:



RE: DX9?
By johnsonx on 10/9/2006 4:02:27 PM , Rating: 2
DX9 integrated video is all you need to run Vista w/Aero-Glass on a business PC. There's no need for DX10 hardware for anything but gaming AFAIK.

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