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ASUS says the 1000HE is the first netbook to use the Atom N280 CPU

ASUS is viewed by many as the father of the netbook. It was the first company to release a small, cheap notebook for consumers that quickly spawned a new category in the computer market. Netbooks have done very well with the current financial crisis around the world.

ASUS has announced its latest netbook called the ASUS Eee 1000HE. The 1000HE is billed as the first netbook in the industry to feature the Intel N280 Atom CPU. The performance of the N280 is only slightly better than the N270 it replaces, but the CPU promises to help extend battery life by being more power efficient than its predecessor.

ASUS claims that the notebook is good for 9.5 hours on a single charge and the machine uses a LED-backlit 10-inch LCD to help improve battery runtime. The 1000HE is also outfitted with ASUS' Super Hybrid Engine that allows users to control the CPU to improve performance or to lower performance for better battery life.

The machine offers up ASUS' new chicklet style keyboard that features a right shift key put back in its proper place. The right shift key was a major gripe with many Eee netbooks. Integrated 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are featured as well. Storage comes via a 160GB internal HDD. The 1000HE is available for pre-order now for $399 and ASUS is offering a $25 discount on pre-orders.

ASUS also introduced Eee netbooks with a swiveling screen at CES 2009 last month.



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GN40?
By therealnickdanger on 2/2/2009 11:27:20 AM , Rating: 2
I would assume that this uses the lower-power chipset, which is a great decision. Solid 1080p playback and a faster bus. Still no Ion, but it's lightyears ahead of 945.




RE: GN40?
By quiksilvr on 2/2/2009 11:33:02 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed. It's a step in the right direction but I can wait until summer time before I get a netbook. Hopefully by then they'll have the Ion motherboard.


RE: GN40?
By HrilL on 2/2/2009 11:47:32 AM , Rating: 4
yes because 1080p playback is needed on a screen that's not even close to 1080p.


RE: GN40?
By The0ne on 2/2/2009 12:19:03 PM , Rating: 2
I'm with you. Doesn't make any kind of sense at all. Other way around is true as well. People playing 480p or lower resolution on their shiny new 1080p tv and claiming they have 1080p quality. Urgh.


RE: GN40?
By quiksilvr on 2/2/2009 12:37:55 PM , Rating: 4
You do realize you can hook it up to an HDTV. So that would be the reason why 1080p would be nice in such a compact package.


RE: GN40?
By trisct on 2/2/2009 12:49:01 PM , Rating: 4
Only if it also comes with an hdmi output port. Otherwise you get into resolution restrictions with most HD media and it becomes much less useful.


RE: GN40?
By afkrotch on 2/2/2009 1:37:25 PM , Rating: 2
Cept that HDCP isn't really implemented in much of anything.


RE: GN40?
By omnicronx on 2/2/2009 1:49:30 PM , Rating: 2
Except it is, you can't output BD (or 1080p content for that matter) on Vista or 7 without HDCP, regardless if the flag is set on the disc or not. HDCP means pretty much nothing for standalone players (although this is expected to change within a year), but it sure does in Windows world.

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1...


RE: GN40?
By afkrotch on 2/2/2009 2:10:01 PM , Rating: 2
Ya, we all know these netbooks don't have much to worry about on their Windows XP/Linux installs.

For anything else, there's HDCP strippers.


RE: GN40?
By omnicronx on 2/2/2009 2:39:23 PM , Rating: 1
Studios are suppose to turn on the flag beginning this year. At that point, every OS and standalone player will be effected.
quote:
For anything else, there's HDCP strippers.

Yes, because its worth it to buy a hardware HDCP stripper (this is not a software solution, and a costly one at that) over new hardware that supports it =P


RE: GN40?
By GaryJohnson on 2/2/2009 3:42:27 PM , Rating: 3
It can be. There are Digital/HDCP -> Analog converters which can be had for as little as $60.

The expensive ones were Digital/HDCP -> Digital/No-HDCP.

My parents have an older 60" HD rear-projection with no digital inputs whatsoever. So it would be cheaper for them to buy the adapter than to run out and buy a new 60" display.


RE: GN40?
By omnicronx on 2/2/2009 5:32:29 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
My parents have an older 60" HD rear-projection with no digital inputs whatsoever. So it would be cheaper for them to buy the adapter than to run out and buy a new 60" display.
These strippers are essentially illegal, it is not a black and white solution here. Manufacturers actively blacklist these strippers by essentially reverse engineering them.

Perhaps things have changed from last year and there are HDCP complient devices to do the job, but it does not seem worth it.


RE: GN40?
By mindless1 on 2/3/2009 12:38:47 AM , Rating: 2
RE: GN40?
By Jason H on 2/2/2009 10:00:06 PM , Rating: 2
Only on a digital connection. I have no problem playing Blu-rays in Vista on my CRT (Sony FW900) with a BNC (analog) connection.


RE: GN40?
By omnicronx on 2/3/2009 9:26:33 AM , Rating: 2
Once again, this is only because studios have yet to turn on the flag that will stop those transmissions. As other posters have pointed out, hdcp strippers or software solutions like anydvd will be needed if the studios decide they want to protect their content.


RE: GN40?
By Jason H on 2/3/2009 3:59:56 PM , Rating: 2
Which, if the studios have any sense at all (doubtful I realize), they won't do - there's no easy way of copying HD video over analog, and the pirates don't need to do this anyway when there are, and always will be, solutions like HDCP strippers and AnyDVD that allow easy digital copying.

The only thing the studios would accomplish by activating the Image Constraint Token or Digital Only Token is angering legitimate consumers like me, and those who have pre-HDCP HDTVs.


RE: GN40?
By omnicronx on 2/2/2009 1:45:31 PM , Rating: 2
HDCP works perfectly fine through DVI, its not HDMI dependent, its digital transmission dependent.


RE: GN40?
By Cerberus90 on 2/2/2009 3:28:34 PM , Rating: 1
Thats all well and good. But every netbook so far has come with VGA/D-sub, not DVI.

So unless they put a DVI on it, which I doubt, it won't be able to output true HD content.


RE: GN40?
By omnicronx on 2/2/2009 3:39:43 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Thats all well and good. But every netbook so far has come with VGA/D-sub, not DVI.

You can thank the 945 chipset for that, which was previously the only supported chipset for the 270/370. Lack of DVI is not because the Atom cannot handle it. The N40 chipset which is bundled with the new Atom 280 does support DVI and also supports hardware vc1/h64 decoding.


RE: GN40?
By GaryJohnson on 2/2/2009 3:54:35 PM , Rating: 2
From the pictures, it looks like it still only has the VGA-out.


RE: GN40?
By omnicronx on 2/3/2009 9:29:26 AM , Rating: 2
It wouldnt surprise me, most laptops only have VGA out. The point is the limitation no longer exists. This is invaluable for those that want a small HTPC desktop using the atom.

You are right though, 1080p output on a netbook is pretty much useless.


RE: GN40?
By FishTankX on 2/2/2009 4:59:37 PM , Rating: 3
Incorrect.

Asus N10JC has HDMI.


RE: GN40?
By omnicronx on 2/2/2009 1:42:10 PM , Rating: 2
HTPC uses buddy.. 1080p on an Atom with an integrated video card would be a godsend to HTPC users. If you think the netbook market just opened up, wait for the HTPC market to break out when the dual core model is released.


RE: GN40?
By teldar on 2/2/2009 2:06:23 PM , Rating: 3
I don't know. I have a dual core AMD like a 4400 in my HTPC and I don't know that I would want a whole lot less CPU. Right now I don't use it terribly much, but I do occasionally do some encoding on it.

Low power processors are going to have to wait until the GPU can reliably do some of the work. From the avivo converter that is available, i think it's going to take a while.

T


RE: GN40?
By omnicronx on 2/2/09, Rating: 0
RE: GN40?
By mindless1 on 2/3/2009 12:42:31 AM , Rating: 2
Sure, but a HTPC that can't encode video is only half a HTPC unless one lives in the boone docks and relies on OTA broadcasting.


RE: GN40?
By Pryde on 2/3/2009 5:39:55 AM , Rating: 2
Or they could just use their main PC if they have one. These atoms can still encode videos ... just very slowly. I still prefer to encode on my intel 9400 than on my amd 6400+ HTPC


RE: GN40?
By Dephcon on 2/3/2009 10:01:35 AM , Rating: 2
The problem with that is not all content is DXVA compliant so some stuff needs to be CPU decoded.

Also for users that don't have a dedicated storage server probably download and store content on their HTPC so a slow CPU + Winrar = Frustration. Its why i went to a 4850e from my FX-55, it played 1080p fine but the extractions took forever.

However all my points are moot if your only using your HTPC for legal purposes.


RE: GN40?
By PAPutzback on 2/2/2009 11:48:31 AM , Rating: 2
Where have you seen a solid 1080P playback review? The lack of 1080P playback has been the deal breaker for me.


RE: GN40?
By omnicronx on 2/2/2009 2:03:38 PM , Rating: 1
The GN40 is supposed to support hardware decoding, but from the sources I have found, all that it says is it should be able to reproduce HD video, but it never says 1080p.
quote:
Associate reported that the graphic system of this chipset will be capable to reproduce high definition video (blu-ray). The chipset graphic core will be more productive than predecessor ( i945GSE ) in many other tasks.

The GN40 chipset is a variant of the Intel G45, so it should not be too much to expect solid 720P playback, but do not discount the idea of 1080p playback, perhaps not with a single core, but it definitely seems doable with the dual core version once it is released.


Still waiting on a reasonable screen....
By blckgrffn on 2/2/2009 2:12:31 PM , Rating: 2
Hoping to see 1280*800 in one of these soon - just want a normal resolution for surfing and I'll be in for one...




By StevoLincolnite on 2/2/2009 6:06:33 PM , Rating: 2
I have the EEPC Surf 2G and I must agree, I would love to remove he 800x480 (I think it is) for something like a 1280x800 resolution, It would make life so much easier!

To it's credit however, I store x264 HD movies on a USB Flash Drive and connect it straight up to my 32" LCD Television via VGA, and output the sound via the headphone jack to my Stereo system which seems to split the channels up decently for 5.1 audio and it looks and sounds fairly decent to me, plus web surfing is snazzy on such a screen.

One draw back though, after websurfing on a 32" screen, then packing everything up and using the EeePC to websurf becomes rather hard as the panel and resolution size seems tiny!


RE: Still waiting on a reasonable screen....
By shabby on 2/2/2009 8:27:36 PM , Rating: 1
I have a fujitsu lifebook with a 10.6" 1280x768 screen... believe me you dont want that high of a resolution on such a small screen.


By mindless1 on 2/3/2009 12:46:41 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, many people do want that. Me too. Scrolling around constantly is terrible when you are using a trackpad.


Linkage?
By bldckstark on 2/2/2009 12:59:49 PM , Rating: 2
The link takes you to the Facebook Asus EEE group page. WTF?

Couldn't find asus.com?




RE: Linkage?
By strikeback03 on 2/2/2009 1:10:56 PM , Rating: 2
Asus (US site at least) appears to not have any info on the system yet. Though as poorly organized as Asus website is, it might be there and just not properly linked to.


Promo Site
By Kibbles on 2/3/2009 9:33:30 AM , Rating: 2
Of the vendors listed on the promo page I could only find the thing listed at amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/10-Inch-Netbook-Processor-Bl...
$374 with free shipping, not bad really.

Here's the promo page btw:
http://promos.asus.com/US/1000HE/ASUS/index.html




This HD stuff is funny
By pcwhizzer on 2/3/2009 11:48:35 AM , Rating: 2
I watch (using DiVx) a ripped DVD in .avi format and Svideo up to the TV from an older laptop, the quality of the image is incredible. I think the demand for HD is just silly. Sure it's amazing color and clarity, but when you think about it, it's just preference and doesn't make a difference in the outcome of the movie.

Just my 2 cents....




price
By Screwballl on 2/2/09, Rating: -1
RE: price
By therealnickdanger on 2/2/2009 11:38:17 AM , Rating: 2
Of course you can get more bang for your buck... but you can't fit a 14" laptop in your purse. You can't fit a 14" laptop in your coat pocket. My Wind fits perfectly in my glovebox... can't do that with a 14" laptop.


RE: price
By Alphafox78 on 2/2/2009 11:40:06 AM , Rating: 3
Well its a good thing that you dont make up all of the population. there are others that prefer netbooks for the small size and weight. just because you think dont prefer them doesnt mean it doesnt have its place; its a niche product.


RE: price
By fatso485 on 2/2/2009 12:41:57 PM , Rating: 2
stupid argument that was debunked 10000 times

+ what you are saying is a lie. show me a 14.1 laptop core2 for $375 even a black friday deal

9.5 hours@$375....well done Asus


RE: price
By fatso485 on 2/2/2009 12:44:42 PM , Rating: 2
nice email.... something needs updating


RE: price
By Alexstarfire on 2/2/2009 12:48:03 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly, even if they could find something with those specs for that price it wouldn't even come close to 9.5 hours of battery life. It's very hard to beat 9.5 hours of battery life.


RE: price
By porkpie on 2/2/2009 1:44:56 PM , Rating: 2
You're right on everything but the last. Build quality doesn't exactly leap to my mind when looking at an Eee PC.


RE: price
By Bateluer on 2/2/2009 2:18:57 PM , Rating: 2
I have an EeePC 904HA and the build quality seems to be excellent. It sturdy and stable. I wish it had a matte finish instead of the gloss, but that's a personal preference.


RE: price
By Moishe on 2/2/2009 2:47:02 PM , Rating: 2
I have an Eee 4G surf and it's a solid little machine.


RE: price
By Screwballl on 2/5/2009 9:45:14 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
stupid argument that was debunked 10000 times + what you are saying is a lie. show me a 14.1 laptop core2 for $375 even a black friday deal 9.5 hours @ $375....well done Asus


What good is 9.5 hours of battery life when that is in standby mode... actual usage allows for 3-4 hours just like any other laptop. You and others vote me down for my comment yet you believe some unverified advertisement for "longer battery life" with no actual testing or verification.

Here are two laptops with 14" and dual core CPUs for under $450

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...

TOSHIBA Satellite L305-S5921 NoteBook Intel Pentium dual-core T3400(2.16GHz) 15.4" Wide XGA 2GB Memory DDR2 800 160GB HDD 5400rpm DVD Super Multi Intel GMA 4500M - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...

Acer Extensa EX4630-4922 NoteBook Intel Pentium dual-core T3400(2.16GHz) 14.1" Wide XGA 2GB Memory DDR2 667 160GB HDD DVD Super Multi Intel GMA 4500M - Retail


RE: price
By Bateluer on 2/2/2009 12:49:24 PM , Rating: 2
You probably could find a full 12, 13, or 14 in notebook for 399, I know I've seen some at the Dell Outlet for 429 that meet those specs. BUT they don't offer the same battery life, build quality, warranty, or portability.


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