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The Eee PC is finally available for purchase

The ASUS Eee PC coverage has been quite fierce here on DailyTech, but the pint-sized notebook is finally available for purchase. As reported a few weeks ago on DailyTech, Newegg is today one of the first to offer the Eee PC – one day earlier than originally expected.

Newegg is only offering one model of the Eee PC:  the 4G model. The 8.9" x 6.5" x 1.4", 2-pound Eee PC comes standard with an Intel Celeron M ULV 900MHz processor, a 4GB SSD, 512MB of DDR2 memory, a 7" 800x480 display, 802.11g wireless and three USB 2.0 ports.

The Eee PC 4G also comes equipped with an Asus-optimized version of Xandros Linux. Asus will offer a version of Windows XP on the Eee PC at a later date.

Battery life for the Eee PC 4G is pegged at around 3.5 hours according to most of the reviews from around the web. The battery used in the device has four cells and is rated at 5200 mAh.

Although the reported price for authorized resellers of the Eee PC is as low as $199, Newegg has priced the notebook at the suggested retail price of $399.99. You'll also cough up $10.03 for 3-day shipping.

For those that are looking to know even more about the Eee PC, there is no shortage of coverage. Notebook Review has two reviews of the device and you'll also find coverage at TweakTown, LAPTOP Magazine and Unwired.



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your choice
By Screwballl on 10/31/2007 11:34:26 AM , Rating: 5
this is great.... for a low end market... but for $100 more at the Egg, you can get a dualcore laptop with 80+GB hard drive space and 1GB of RAM (granted some are recertified but at the Egg thats almost as good).
$399 for Intel Celeron M ULV 900MHz processor, a 4GB SSD, 512MB of DDR2 memory, a 7" 800x480 display, 802.11g wireless and three USB 2.0 ports.
or
$499 for Dual core T2080 or AMD X2 CPU, 1GB DDR2, 15.4" display at 1440x900, 80GB hard drive, dual-layer DVD burner, and b/g wireless.

umm yeah I'll take storage speed and usefulness for the extra $100




RE: your choice
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 10/31/2007 11:41:06 AM , Rating: 5
Try carrying around that thing with you all day :)

The reason why I got my Samsung Q1 Ultra is that I wanted something light to carry around with me when I go to trade shows. My Q1 Ultra weighs just 1.5 pounds. How much does that 15.4" notebook weigh? 6 pounds? 6.5 pounds?

You'd be surprised how heavy my 14.1" notebook and a D-SLR got after walking around all day long. I now carry my UMPC and a Canon SD1000 and couldn't be happier.

The price to pay (for the Eee PC) is in its portability.


RE: your choice
By FITCamaro on 10/31/2007 1:16:14 PM , Rating: 5
I carried an 11 pound laptop (with power brick) + books around in college. You're just getting old. :)


RE: your choice
By The0ne on 10/31/2007 3:10:14 PM , Rating: 1
Yea. I like that fact that I can CAD on my laptop but having to carry the thing on trips gets to you after a while. I'm seriously considering a ultra portable just for business apps and leave the intensive apps at the office. This is why ultra mini's are cool :D


RE: your choice
By Samus on 10/31/2007 5:20:54 PM , Rating: 2
You could buy a two year old, lightly used IBM X41 12.1" notebook with a wonderful, full-sized-key keyboard, 1gb ram, 30gb hard drive, wifi, touchpad, trackpoint, keyboard light, 2.5lbs, DVD+ROM/CDRW drive dock, all the bells and whistles, for LESS than a EePC.

You could also land a new IBM X60 for $900, only twice as much as the EePC, but 10 times the functionality and performance.

IBM X-series are negligibly heavier and 'bulkier' than a EePC.

Until this thing is $200, it isn't practical.


By hannibal the mechanical bull on 11/6/2007 10:11:56 AM , Rating: 2
good point.


RE: your choice
By FrankM on 10/31/2007 4:46:17 PM , Rating: 2
Well then, look around how much do sub-12.1" subnotebooks cost; also, how important is a dual-core processor in a notebook? AFAIK, this was to be a small, highly portable and moderately durable notebook sufficiently powerful for taking notes and surfing, that is also much cheaper than other laptops of this size. It was never meant to be a stronger, dual-core machine with lots of storage at so cheap a price point - it would kill their own subnotebook-sales.
There is a reason there's a market for sub-12" subnotebooks even at their $2-3000 price range, and that's portability.


RE: your choice
By theapparition on 11/1/2007 9:38:52 AM , Rating: 2
This is exactly what I said when this was first announced at $199.

I thought it was great, but that you wouldn't be able to buy it for that, it would retail closer to $399. And at $399, it was not a good value where you can get something far more powerful and flexible for a negligable premium.

No one liked what I said then, but here it is. And this is not a good value. I completely agree with you. Powerwise, you can get much better for comparitively same cost or a little more. For portability, if that's what really concerns you, I hate to say this, but would much rather go the iPhone or PDA route.

Just don't see the market for this. Now, sell this for $199, and I'd buy it. I'm certainly not cheap, and spend plenty of money, but I want value when I buy something. This has no value to me at $399.


Let's play "Hype up the Price!"
By iFX on 10/31/2007 11:44:14 AM , Rating: 5
I feel like the over-hyping of this product may have driven the cost up. It was originally reported to be $199, then magically that price was said to be for resellers only - after a huge amount of hype from the press. Then it was reported to be $299, and that this would be the final sale price. Now after more hype we get the actual MSRP of $399.

No thanks.




RE: Let's play "Hype up the Price!"
By djc208 on 10/31/2007 1:31:23 PM , Rating: 2
100% markup is typical of MSRPs on a lot of items, that's why places like Newegg do well they make up the money in volume.
In any event the hype as well as the novelty is why Newegg wants MSRP. There's farily high demand and no real competition right now. In a few weeks when the early adopters have theirs, BestBuy has them in stores, and the availability is better Newegg will start dropping the price to compete.

Especially once they're in the retail stores, Best Buy won't be any more than MSRP most likely, so why buy from Newegg when for the same amount (Taxes instead of S&H) you can have it now vice 3-day UPS. That's when Newegg will start selling them for less.


RE: Let's play "Hype up the Price!"
By bpurkapi on 10/31/2007 2:30:57 PM , Rating: 2
Very good point, unless Best Buy figures competing with the 'egg is a losing proposition and prices similarly. The price cut will occur when there are more in stock. I've kept up on the news for this product and think that supplies are going to be limited, they will sell out and then production will ramp up later. Personally I am going to skip the first generation of the eee pc and get the next one which will feature a better proc and hopefully an unsoldered ssd hdd.


RE: Let's play "Hype up the Price!"
By Oregonian2 on 10/31/2007 2:38:47 PM , Rating: 2
Also, I've usually seen that $199 as the claimed volume OEM price. Meaning that would be the price that Uruguay (or whomever) would pay buying many thousands of them - and the units wouldn't be in retail packaging. And even then for the bottom-most stripped version. And if Uruguay wanted to resell them, they'd probably want more than that to sell you or I one.


By theapparition on 11/1/2007 9:48:40 AM , Rating: 2
Yep, that $199 pricing was for large volume OEM sales and for the rock bottom version. I speculated when the news broke that retail of the 4GB model would be $399.


RE: Let's play "Hype up the Price!"
By theapparition on 11/1/2007 9:47:09 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Especially once they're in the retail stores, Best Buy won't be any more than MSRP most likely

FYI, in the US, it is illegal for authorized retailers to sell any item for more than MSRP. It is called price gouging.
That is one reason, the Wii (just picking an example) is always sold in stores at the same price, and cannot be priced higher, no matter what the demand is.
There are ways to get around this, for example, anyone could have bought an $800 Wii "bundle" online on launch day. Also, car dealers can add "Additional Dealer Markup" to a hot model, but the price of the base item cannot be marked up.


By tanishalfelven on 11/1/2007 1:35:07 PM , Rating: 2
wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_gouging
quote:
Price gouging is a frequently pejorative reference to a seller's asking a price that is much higher than what is seen as 'fair' under the circumstances. In precise, legal usage, it is the name of a felony that applies in some of the United States only during civil emergencies. In less precise usage, it can refer either to prices obtained by practices inconsistent with a competitive free market, or to windfall profits. In colloquial usage, it means simply that the speaker thinks the price is too high. Non-pejorative uses are generally in reaction to what the writer believes is an unjustified restraint on the market.

The economic theory of the free market suggests that, even in unusual circumstances, price controls do more harm than good by preventing incentives for the supply of needed goods. For example, in a disaster situation, a very high price for equipment (e.g. tents) will prompt hugely increased supply of the relevant goods. Libertarians are among those who robustly defend the right of firms to charge what they want regardless of the circumstances. The contrary argument is that emergency situations increase inequality markedly and allowing vendors to exploit emergency situations to gain extra profits is unequitable.

As a criminal offense, Florida's law is reasonably typical. Price gouging may be charged when a supplier of essential goods or services sharply raises the prices asked in anticipation of or during a civil emergency, or when it cancels or dishonors contracts in order to take advantage of an increase in prices related to such an emergency. The model case is a retailer who increases the price of existing stocks of milk and bread when a hurricane is imminent. It is a defense to show that the price increase mostly reflects increased costs, such as running an emergency generator, or hazard pay for workers.


having a LAPTOP is not a civil emergency.


RE: Let's play "Hype up the Price!"
By FrankM on 10/31/2007 4:32:33 PM , Rating: 2
The originally $199 (then modified to $239) version had 2G storage, 256MB RAM and a 2-cell battery. This version was never supposed to be $199. The interest may have helped to drive up price, but a plan that underestimates costs, problems with sourcing and yet another increase in costs from the design can lead to a steep increase in price, as shown by the OLPC case, as well - which went from $100 to over $175 (and website now says $200).


Re:
By UBB on 10/31/2007 11:37:09 AM , Rating: 2
Too bad this thing has no CD/DVD-ROM drive.




RE: Re:
By Suomynona on 10/31/2007 11:58:04 AM , Rating: 2
It's an ultraportable. DVD drives only take up space and eat up battery life.


RE: Re:
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 10/31/2007 2:23:41 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
DVD drives only take up space and eat up battery life when in use .

Corrected that for you...


RE: Re:
By Oregonian2 on 10/31/2007 2:34:14 PM , Rating: 2
They don't take up space when not being used? Interesting!


RE: Re:
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 10/31/2007 2:37:49 PM , Rating: 4
Heh, was talking about the battery part. Doh!


RE: Re:
By FrankM on 10/31/2007 4:19:50 PM , Rating: 2
Subnotebooks under 12.1" usually don't have an ODD. The expensive ($2-3000+) ones have a USB-ODD in the package.


RE: Re:
By Gholam on 11/1/2007 6:07:08 AM , Rating: 2
Fujitsu-Siemens Lifebook P series are 10.6" with an internal DVDRW.


Upgrade
By Anh Huynh on 10/31/2007 12:22:13 PM , Rating: 2
I wonder if it can take a 2GB DDR2 SODIMM, WiFi module with BT, and a 16 or 32GB SDHC card. Toss Windows XP on it and it'll be a nice little portable device that'll fit in my camera bag that i can use to upload images to Flickr.




RE: Upgrade
By Chris Peredun on 10/31/2007 12:52:04 PM , Rating: 2
As long as you don't mind voiding the warranty to do it. Apparently the access door on the bottom hiding the RAM and MiniPCIe slot has a screw covered by a warranty sticker.


RE: Upgrade
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 10/31/2007 2:24:50 PM , Rating: 2
Warranty is for wimps anyways. Mod FTW?


Something's fishy - marketing pics at Newegg
By mpc7488 on 10/31/2007 1:31:09 PM , Rating: 2
Has anyone else noticed that all of the pictures of the Eee posted at Newegg are marketing photos from Asus? This is pretty unusual for Newegg, they usually have all of their own product photos at multiple angles. For my part it makes me question their 'In Stock' status, it looks a lot like they're simply taking orders and drop shipping them directly from Asus.




By Oregonian2 on 10/31/2007 2:43:48 PM , Rating: 2
Wait for the first product return that's opened, then take a picture of it?


By Chris Peredun on 10/31/2007 12:25:29 PM , Rating: 2
Expansys (MobilePlanet) is still taking them.
http://www.expansys.ca/p.aspx?i=158478

NCIX does have stock, but due to the volume of preorders they received already (from accidentally listing five model variants) it's doubtful that they will be able to fulfill them all, let alone new orders.




ultra portable to compete with
By bigpow on 10/31/2007 12:31:28 PM , Rating: 2
Fujitsu or Panasonic?
yeah right...

if I don't have the budget and I need an ultra portable, I'd just get a Dell XPS1330 and call it a day.

now, for a x-mas gifting, this makes more sense - just like those $10-$20 useless gifts we like to give away to our friends and relatives

if the price were $199, then I wouldn't have such a hard time swallowing it - I'd even buy one as I had originally planned




A terrorfying phrase
By EarthsDM on 10/31/2007 2:59:17 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Asus-optimized


In my experience, Asus-optimized software/BIOS/drivers work as well as NVIDIA's IDE drivers. Looks like a nice product, but it will need a fresh install on arrival.




900mhz?
By VisionxOrb on 10/31/2007 6:55:48 PM , Rating: 2
900mhz is so 1999




my wish list for EEE ver 2 in April/2008
By Mgz on 10/31/2007 9:16:22 PM , Rating: 2
7" screen with 704x396 or 1280x720 resolution (16:9 4tw)
Core 2 Solo ULV 1GHz to 1.2GHz (should be dirt cheap by April 2008, same TDP as the current one) or even better Core 2 Solo ULV on 45nm process (should be 1.5-2W less than the current Celeron M ULV 353)
945GU @ 133Mhz (host 533Mhz mem DDR2 400) only 5W TDP or the better chipset 945GMS/945GME @ 166/200 MHz 5.5-6W TDP with ICH7-U or ICH7-M
batteries last 6 hrs+
WiMAX/HDSPA/CDMA/GPS optional.
esata port. (ICH7-M has it, ICH7-U don't)-optional
max price cap at 500$ with all the bling (GPS,WiMax, etc)
512MB RAM DDR2 400/DDR 533 user upgradeable to 2GB, regular DIMM or SO-DIMM.
Windows XP customized by nlite , trimmed the fat, or ultra customized ubuntu.
hopefully it can decode 704x396 h.264 video :(, shame that GMA 950 doesn't offer any hardware accelerating :(




ultra portable to compete with
By bigpow on 10/31/2007 12:29:52 PM , Rating: 1
Fujitsu or Panasonic?
yeah right...

if I don't have the budget and I need an ultra portable, I'd just get a Dell XPS1330 and call it a day.

now, for a x-mas gifting, this makes more sense - just like those $10-$20 useless gifts we like to give away to our friends and relatives




i don't get it
By jadeskye on 10/31/07, Rating: -1
RE: i don't get it
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 10/31/2007 11:44:07 AM , Rating: 2
A 900MHz Celeron M is more than enough power to run Linux.

I mean, how much power and HDD space do you REALLY need to type a few documents, surf the web, check email and open PowerPoint presentations?

That what this thing will be used for, and it is a highly portable device. Much more so than any 14.1" or 15.4" notebook.


RE: i don't get it
By mpc7488 on 10/31/2007 1:26:23 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I mean, how much power and HDD space do you REALLY need to type a few documents, surf the web, check email and open PowerPoint presentations?

I wholly agree - and I think this is a prime argument against the 4G and 8G models. If the above type of user is truly the target market (and I agree it is), then why would you pay $100 more for the 4G model over the 2G unless you really care about the webcam?


RE: i don't get it
By DeepBlue1975 on 10/31/2007 2:13:09 PM , Rating: 2
If you're going to swap the EEE's OS with Windows XP, you'll definitely want the 4g version.

That kind of space, gets you a "barebones" XP installation, some old games (MAME, emulators of old machines and the likes), an MS office installation, your working documents and... some divx movies to watch on the go.

With 2gbs you'd be tighter for that kind of use.

The reason I won't buy is not the price, but the size. I need something like the fore coming Fujitsu Lifebook, but I'd like it to be as cheap as this one is.

I'd never buy an OQO or Vaio UTX because they're overkill and overpriced for the kind of use I want to give it... By now, I'm getting away with an HP Ipax hx2795b which did cost me more than what this EEE pc does cost, and hasn't even half of its power, even though I can do most of the things I want on the go (no keyboard, though... the attachable ones would defeat its portability for me)


RE: i don't get it
By Oregonian2 on 10/31/2007 2:42:13 PM , Rating: 2
Is that 2G in addition to system software, or does the system software (Linux, etc) take up 1.95GB of it?


RE: i don't get it
By iFX on 10/31/2007 11:45:34 AM , Rating: 1
This is not meant for a gamer obviously - it is being targeted at the business professional.


RE: i don't get it
By mmntech on 10/31/2007 11:55:41 AM , Rating: 2
I think it's meant for students.
The battery life is a little short though. I get 5hrs on energy saving mode with my iBook G4 1.33ghz and the battery is well used. Was 6hrs when I bought it. Battery capacity in my laptop is only 4200mAh. How much more could a 900mhz Celeron use? It doesn't even have a mechanical HDD. Form personal experience, 3.5hrs away from a plug is just not enough.


RE: i don't get it
By ss284 on 10/31/2007 12:09:40 PM , Rating: 2
The typical business professional wouldn't be using an underpowered linux machine with a 7 inch screen. They would be able to afford a faster machine with a much larger screen. An employee's productivity > saving $1000 dollars for a laptop.


RE: i don't get it
By iFX on 10/31/2007 12:36:30 PM , Rating: 1
People in my company would. Our sales guys and execs have been talking about this thing for a month. We are a fortune 500 company worth 10 billion dollars. I think the people working here fall under the "business professional" category.


RE: i don't get it
By robinthakur on 10/31/2007 12:57:22 PM , Rating: 2
Its not "your company" darling, you're just an employed drone of a $10billion F500 who's getting stiffed with cheap laptops...Working for one of the world's leading investment banks myself, most of our people would baulk at the idea of getting tech. which is not severely cutting edge (even if they do only browse the web and tap out a few documents on it, it looks bad in front of clients to have doddering old phones and laptops. It reminds me of those "My First Computers" from Vtech myself, but for an African child without access to expensive computers, I would imagine its a godsend.


RE: i don't get it
By iFX on 10/31/2007 2:04:30 PM , Rating: 1
It sounds as though you don't have a response so you are just going to try to belittle me. Hah. You aren't a Democrat by any chance. You have no idea what my position is in said company, darling. Maybe YOU are just a drone and unhappy with your job, I however am not a drone, I am a decision maker in MY COMPANY - chances are if you worked for MY COMPANY I would be giving orders to you as well.

MY COMPANY writes core banking solutions, that and we process 90% of electronic transactions in the country - the financial world would crumble without us, we provide the infrastructure so you investment types can actually have something to do. So if the people at MY COMPANY want these for travel, then again, I would say BUSINESS PROFESSIONALS want them in general.


RE: i don't get it
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 10/31/2007 2:36:22 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I am a decision maker in MY COMPANY - chances are if you worked for MY COMPANY I would be giving orders to you as well.

The power to make a decision doesn't mean anything. Few people exercise this anyways as they want to dodge responsibility. Given the potential risk involved with bringing this in and it being a complete flop I would guess if your business smart you aren't going to make this decision either and pass it on to someone below you.

quote:
MY COMPANY writes core banking solutions, that and we process 90% of electronic transactions in the country - the financial world would crumble without us, we provide the infrastructure so you investment types can actually have something to do.

Blah blah blah, my company is bigger than yours, we own the world, etc.... News flash, if your company didn't exist, someone else would move in and suck up your market. Get over yourself and welcome to a Free Market Economy. Your attitude also does not have mid or upper level management written on it either, I would suspect bottom level management at the most.

quote:
So if the people at MY COMPANY want these for travel, then again, I would say BUSINESS PROFESSIONALS want them in general.

Right, and your IT department is going to make these work with your existing infrastructure. I find the prospect of that quite unlikely. Short of web based email (If the browser on this thing will even run Exchange properly) your not going to get much work done on these. If a business professional wants to travel they would be given a full functioning windows laptop that can function similar to the one in the office. While you might make the decision to purchase, your IT department is going to make the decision to not support this product citing support cost reasons and lack of interoperability.


RE: i don't get it
By iFX on 10/31/2007 4:02:36 PM , Rating: 1
Blah Blah Blah is exactly right.


RE: i don't get it
By robinthakur on 11/1/2007 10:27:56 AM , Rating: 2
"You aren't a democrat by any chance?" Ummm...I'm not even American thank you very much, I'm in the UK. Despite the current state of the US government I believe that we both still live in democracies.

Whilst you could possibly be a 'decision-maker' as you put it, and not a drone, you are still an employee which is the point I was making. I apologise on behalf of your therapist if you felt belittled by a complete stranger on the internet. By happy coincidence I did have a point, and my point is that nobody I know who works in banking or even myself would want one of these laptops as there is no 'brag-factor' and they are quite obviously a budget item. People who work in Finance (not Finance IT) get *whatever* they want. This should not be surprising in any way considering the amount of revenue we bring in and consequentially, how much we earn.


RE: i don't get it
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 10/31/2007 2:21:47 PM , Rating: 2
10 Billion is still on the low end of the fortune 500.


RE: i don't get it
By ss284 on 10/31/2007 2:33:22 PM , Rating: 2
Your sales guys and execs are talking about it because they are clueless. Teaching and having to support a non-upgradeable gimped Linux system that wont run the majority of the professional level financial applications YOUR COMPANY uses is not going to work.

I'm guessing your decision making powers you mentioned like 5 times in your post doesn't deal with the technical aspects of YOUR COMPANY.


RE: i don't get it
By DeepBlue1975 on 10/31/2007 2:26:04 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, of course. Business Pro's want to have a 20" behemoth in a bag the size of a luggage compartment itself.

For most business people out there, I tend to agree that a notebook in the 12 - 15" range is ideal, because it's not heavy enough for plane travelling, and gives you the possibility of "setting up your desktop anywhere you want".

UMPCs in general are targeted towards a niche market of people that, more than having the possibility to have an available computer powerful enough to get everyday's tasks done, really need or want to do things on the go (even inside a taxi, bus, cab, walking by the street).

You can't feel comfortable getting a 14" laptop out of a bag while walking by or while you were jogging around the park and suddenly wanted to sit down on a park's bench to browse the net. With something like the EEE or smaller, it's possible and burden-free.


RE: i don't get it
By ss284 on 10/31/2007 3:59:23 PM , Rating: 3
I wish my park had wifi.


RE: i don't get it
By Gholam on 11/1/2007 6:51:59 AM , Rating: 2
Business pros are using ThinkPad T and X series. Sometimes Dell.


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