quote: To make matters more confusing, both companies measure TDP in a different way, oh joy. AMD measures it as the maximum power that a CPU can possibly draw while Intel calls TDP the maximum you are likely to see sustained. One Intel TDP ~= .85 AMD TDP. To correct for this, AMD bumps up the Intel numbers to max draw.
quote: Actually, AMD's method is more "responsible" from the point of view of end users, because it lets people upgrade the CPU (as long as it's within the same "family"), or use it under load 24/7 without worrying if their standard cooling solution will do.
quote: For that matter, most also ignore AMD's TDP, because it's usually 10-15% higher than the CPU will ever dissipate, even under full load. But if you're going to use the manufacturer-supplied numbers, I'd much rather use AMD's than Intel's.
quote: Tell that to the people with dual-core Netburst chips
quote: There is no such thing as: - max tdp at idle - average tdp
quote: Basically, TDP means maximum power consumption under load over a prolonged period of time.
quote: They run a lot cooler. They rate the TDP as a max while Intel rates it as typical TDP
quote: Just in time for a massive price-cut on the Intel 65nm server quad-processors and the shipment of the first 45nm Penryn
quote: microsoft vista (our way our the highway for $$$, no choice, pay lots
quote: Even the old Opteron still beats the new Xeons (dual core) in 4 socket systems - simply because of the FSB vs Hypertransport.
quote: So lets all hope AMD can get on top of its current Barcelona problems and give Intel something to worry about cos if it doesn't and AMD goes under we all sufffer.
quote: The upcoming Barcelona processors are drop-in compatible with current-generation Opteron motherboards.
quote: AMD has prioritized production of our low power and standard power products because our customers and ecosystem demand it,
quote: AMD's press release claims the Barcelona Opteron will provide a 70% performance increase in certain database applications; and a 40% increase on certain floating point applications
quote: AMD bets on low-power, low-clock processors for its next generation debut
quote: The suggestion here is that buying a 5% inferior AMD chip today will result in a payback later on if it helps keep AMD afloat, and Ringold's blind faith that no bankruptcy or restructuring could result in AMD ceasing to compete with Intel's top tier chips is just naive.
quote: I don't know what really set you off about free markets
quote: in hopes the criminals at Intel will burn in Hell with Bill Gates and his band of scum sucking cronies.