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HP Pavilion dv2 Entertainment Notebook PC

Up close and personal at CES Unveiled  (Source: DailyTech/Brandon Hill)
AMD announces a new ultrathin notebook platform

Intel has been hogging all of the limelight with its Atom processor. The tiny, 45nm processor has found its way into the majority of netbooks on the market and power devices ranging from $300 on up to $900+ range.

While Intel initially had the market cornered with the Atom processor and 945GM chipset, NVIDIA is now stepping into the market to provide its own IGP for the Atom. The NVIDIA Ion platform provides a single-chip solution and incorporates a GeForce 9400 GPU which completely obliterates anything Intel can currently offer with the Atom's chipset in graphics performance.

While NVIDIA is looking to simply shove Intel partly aside with its Ion offerings, AMD is looking to take on Intel its own with the new Yukon platform for "ultrathin" notebooks. Yukon incorporates a new Athlon Neo processor and ATI Radeon X1250 integrated graphics processor -- an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3410 discrete graphics processor is available as an option.

AMD says that the new platform is a nice balance between the bargain basement netbooks that have flooded the market and more functional (and higher priced) ultraportables. "Before today, there was a compromise associated with selecting a highly portable notebook, forcing consumers to choose either the full PC experience of an ultraportable at a high price or the limited PC experience of a mininotebook at a low price," stated Chris Cloran, AMD's Corporate VP of the Client Division.

"In introducing the AMD ultrathin notebook platform, AMD enables balanced PC performance, including the option of advanced graphics and video for true HD entertainment, all in an affordable, ultrathin notebook, bringing consumers uncompromised mobility."

AMD's poster child for the Yukon platform is the new HP Pavilion dv2 Entertainment Notebook PC. The dv2 incorporates the aforementioned 1.6GHz Athlon Neo MV-40 processor and the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3140 graphics processor. The notebooks includes a 12.1" LED backlit display (1280x800), 802.11n, WWAN support, support for up to a 500GB HDD, HDMI-out, near full-size keyboard, and an optional external Blu-ray drive.

Pricing for HP's Pavilion dv2 starts at $699.



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when..
By neo64 on 1/6/2009 7:56:36 PM , Rating: 3
will dt ever get enough of that HP girl..




RE: when..
By therealnickdanger on 1/6/2009 8:15:22 PM , Rating: 5
God, I hope never.


RE: when..
By quiksilvr on 1/7/2009 12:47:16 AM , Rating: 2
I remember a different HP girl Dailytech used quite commonly:

http://www.dailytech.com/HP+Releases+New+Home+Serv...


RE: when..
By therealnickdanger on 1/7/2009 8:16:50 AM , Rating: 2
Hey, they changed it! Booo! They were using the image you linked to as of yesterday.


RE: when..
By nugundam93 on 1/7/2009 8:52:51 AM , Rating: 2
best HP girl ftw!


RE: when..
By wordsworm on 1/6/2009 9:39:07 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
will dt ever get enough of that HP girl..


They should have included her on the space elevator story.


RE: when..
By MonkeyPaw on 1/7/2009 11:49:55 AM , Rating: 2
Kinda looks like she's doing the "5 dollar footlong" dance. And before you let your imagination get the best of you, I mean from the Subway commercials. If the song is now stuck in your head, you're welcome.


RE: when..
By wordsworm on 1/7/2009 2:49:23 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
If the song is now stuck in your head, you're welcome.


I usually buy all my TV on DVD, so as to avoid commercials. So, no damage done. Don't know the commercial to which you refer. Did I mention I really hate commercials?


RE: when..
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 1/6/2009 10:07:59 PM , Rating: 3
Happy now?


RE: when..
By dflynchimp on 1/6/2009 10:37:18 PM , Rating: 2
shoot, now I have to obsess over where I can get a larger picture of the newcomer!


RE: when..
By cyriene on 1/6/2009 10:47:48 PM , Rating: 4
RE: when..
By mattclary on 1/7/2009 7:59:27 AM , Rating: 2
I <3 gadget waifs.


RE: when..
By Motoman on 1/7/2009 11:55:52 AM , Rating: 2
Seconded.

I <3 her. I <3 her a lot.


RE: when..
By mattclary on 1/7/2009 8:03:34 AM , Rating: 2
RE: when..
By amanojaku on 1/7/2009 12:17:16 PM , Rating: 2
Why does this girl's skirt have a penis on it? Up or down, that's a penis.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/swanky-hsiao/27375540...


RE: when..
By Aloonatic on 1/7/2009 3:57:16 AM , Rating: 2
Probably when they have had enough of the Fire Fox girl.

<for those who watch Harry Hill's TV Burp>

But, more importantly, who is better?

There is only one way to find out...

... (jelly/jello) Fiiiiiiiiiiight

</ for those who watch Harry Hill's TV Burp>


untracrap
By obiwankenobi on 1/6/2009 7:39:11 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
You can get an Inspiron 13 from Dell for the same price, but with a C2D processor


yeah right, but with an ultracrap intel graphics included.




RE: untracrap
By hadifa on 1/6/2009 8:54:56 PM , Rating: 2
There is no bound to my contempt for Intel's on board graphic solution. It can play DVDs and that's all.

I have a decent desktop but I have a lenovo T61 for work and I travel so I get stuck with this wonderful on board solution.

Do yourself a favor and don't touch one with a ten feet pole unless you are using it for MS office or such thing only.

Not being able to run even many 2D games or the simplest of 3D indie game is a joke.

Many online flash clips stutter in full screen mode.

My brother's ancient laptop with an Athlon 1.4Ghz, a Radeon 9400 and just 512 ram easily outperforms my Centrino pro with a c2d 2Ghz processor, 965 graphic and over 3gb RAM.

Maybe I'm over reacting because it CAN play Baldura's gate or old 2D adventure games(though stuttering) so it's not that bad.

Installed Galactic civ2 for a test run. When the game starts, in a small map and in the tactical view (2D), I get about 20fps, Zooming in to earth (3D) I get about 10fps! I was happy at first since 20 is still playable, then a few turns later when I explored a few more planets, the tactical view went down to less than 10fps.
Do I need to SLI two 965 chips to get acceptable performance?!

Just thought to share my experience. Anyone knows any decent games that can run on Intel onboard graphics?
( apart from Tetris and snake game)


RE: untracrap
By ShaolinSoccer on 1/6/2009 11:23:27 PM , Rating: 2
I have an Inspiron 1525 with the g965 chipset. It plays many games fine. Including counterstrike source, hellgate london, trackmania and a few others. You need to use the chipset drivers from Dell and not from Intel. I tried the latest one from Intel and it made things worse lol. I don't know why yours has problems. I have no problems whatsoever with flash videos or any video for that matter.


RE: untracrap
By hadifa on 1/7/2009 12:17:00 AM , Rating: 2
Playing hellgate! Probably we are talking about two different chips. Mine says:
Adapter Type: Intel 965 express chipset family

Adapter String: Mobile GMA X3100

And I got the drivers from lenovo website.

If it could play counter strike then I wouldn't complain. It doesn't have a problem with all flash videos, but there are many flash videos that slow down and lag in full screen.


RE: untracrap
By Radnor on 1/7/2009 5:11:18 AM , Rating: 2
Hellgate London plays nice on a X3100 ?

I recommend you to check your eyes and your brains. Playing at 800x600 with everything off at a slide show speed, isn't playing. It is powerpoint.

Another thing, Intel IGPs still don't do TnL natively. And it was implemented in 1999.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transform_and_Lightni...

Of course your C2D become crap. They have to pull stuff that is not made for them, and they don't like to pull.
If this idea from AMD is good, but the price needs to be lower.


RE: untracrap
By luseferous on 1/7/2009 7:30:20 AM , Rating: 1
It won't play Crysis so netbooks are crap !

When are preople going to realise these are not designed as gaming rigs. Go buy a desktop or wait a few years.


RE: untracrap
By therealnickdanger on 1/7/2009 8:24:34 AM , Rating: 3
Here are the specs of the ATI 3410... not bad:

http://products.amd.com/de-de/MobilityGPUDetail.as...

It's in Deutsch, so ja=yes, nein=no. LOL


RE: untracrap
By theapparition on 1/7/09, Rating: -1
Athlon Neo
By Sulphademus on 1/7/2009 9:16:42 AM , Rating: 3
But not a word on Athlon Neo other than its speed?

Is this a filed down Athlon 64? What are the details? TDP? 45nm? HT 2.0? Cache?

Inquiring minds...




RE: Athlon Neo
By AssBall on 1/7/2009 10:57:14 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, what exactly is this NEO thing? Is it like a neutered Turion or something?


RE: Athlon Neo
By JakeAMD on 1/7/2009 4:05:13 PM , Rating: 2
This is definitely something new. The package was shrunk, lower TDPs and the chipset optimized for ultrathin notebooks. Neo-based systems have great appeal for users focusing on portability (sleekness, lightweight, etc.) but who still want the functionality of a mainstream notebook.


RE: Athlon Neo
By dlapine on 1/7/2009 12:02:11 PM , Rating: 2
There's more info on the Neo at this other website.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/252/10502...

Looks interesting, and seems aimed at a different market than the Intel Atom


Time will telll
By bjacobson on 1/6/2009 7:14:19 PM , Rating: 2
Hope it has good battery life. Also I hope the graphics solution has dedicated video memory.
Can we see some specs on this processor?




RE: Time will telll
By ChronoReverse on 1/6/2009 7:25:05 PM , Rating: 2
AFAIK, it's based on the A64 but single cored so at 1.6GHz it'd be about as fast as a 1.55GHz Core.


interesting
By obiwankenobi on 1/6/2009 7:49:54 PM , Rating: 2
i'm glad that i didn't jump on the netbook bandwagon yet as intel atom and graphics really sucks, a review from an asus top of the line netbook with an nvidia 9300m graphics had the atom badly lag from a video processing test and don't ever ask how's the intel graphics score on the test, you will just puke. this AMD offering looks interesting. i'll wait when there's more information and reviews on this platform, this might finally persuade me to buy one.




tablet
By Visual on 1/7/2009 9:17:54 AM , Rating: 2
Performance in games should really trounce everything Intel, no doubt about this. I can't wait to see how the CPU turns out in benchmarks, that's the more curious aspect.
Let's hope it gets decent battery life also - anything at least near 6 hours with the extended battery and you can color me interested.

Now if only they release a tablet convertible based on this, with a decent digitizer, I'd buy it immediately.




By dtacct3 on 1/7/2009 5:15:54 PM , Rating: 2
If I want to see girls, there are better places to do it. If I want to see tasteful and skillful writing, this author isn't the one. Why pair the two irrationally and cheapen this website where I want to come to get tech news?




Decent but...
By othercents on 1/6/09, Rating: -1
RE: Decent but...
By Motoman on 1/6/2009 7:03:32 PM , Rating: 3
I didn't go look, but I would presume that the GPU in that Dell would be far lesser than this offering. That's what's really interesting in this package, as far as I can tell...


RE: Decent but...
By Rodney McNaggerton on 1/6/2009 7:09:19 PM , Rating: 2
Yes'm the ability to play HD movies on a small form factor appears to be the real grabber here. I do wonder about things like battery life, though.


RE: Decent but...
By MonkeyPaw on 1/6/2009 9:31:58 PM , Rating: 2
Well, having the GPU handle HD decode should be more efficient than having the just the CPU doing it. Beyond that, yeah, it all depends on what the CPU/GPU consumes. Atom uses like 2-5W, but the Intel chipset uses about 20-25W. I haven't seen what AMD's CPU+GPU solution consumes, net, but I'd imagine it's closer to 35-45W.


RE: Decent but...
By Gul Westfale on 1/7/2009 1:30:29 AM , Rating: 2
from what i've been reading on a german site AMD is claiming 25W platform power (CPU+chipset), which would make it about equal with intel.

the "athlon neo" is K8-based, so it should be way more powerful than the atom.


RE: Decent but...
By Samus on 1/7/2009 2:33:35 AM , Rating: 2
Ironically, the AMD CPU+chipset combination might use LESS power than the ATOM+G945, because the G945 has no advanced power saving features like the X1250...the G945 uses a lot of power and kills the ATOM platform's power advantage. Aside from obvious graphics performance advantages, that's what makes Yukon and Ion so interesting, imho.


RE: Decent but...
By Accord99 on 1/7/2009 4:25:50 AM , Rating: 2
The 22W is for the desktop variant of the 945 chipset. The mobile version is a lot lower power, for example I have a Dell 640m with a Merom 1.73GHz that idles at around 12W and uses 25W while running two Prime 95 threads for the entire notebook.

Atom netbooks seem to idle at around 8W and 12-15W at full CPU load.


RE: Decent but...
By JakeAMD on 1/7/2009 4:06:45 PM , Rating: 2
Just wanted to jump here and offer some clarity around TDP of our new platform. The Yukon platform is 27-35W depending on the OEM configuration. The Neo part we released yesterday is approxiamtely15W. Future versions of Neo are being design within a range of 8-15W. Battery life is dependent on many factors such as the type of applications being run, the brightness of the display, external devices attached, etc. The HP dv2 announced yesterday is expected to have a battery life around 4 hours under normal use.


"Young lady, in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!" -- Homer Simpson

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