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MSI K9N Platinum AM2 Motherboard - Courtesy AnandTech.com

Gigabyte AM2 prototype - Courtesy AnandTech.com
Pricing and availability for AMD's desktop AM2 offerings

We have received some rather interesting info on AMD's new range of Socket AM2 processors. According to internal AMD documents, system builders will be able to purchase the new AM2 processor starting on May 15th. Dual core and single core Athlon 64 processors will be available as well as 64-bit Sempron processors.

According to our previously published roadmaps, AMD's Athlon 64 FX-62 will be the company's top desktop offering for the remainder of the year. It is not until Q1 of 2007 that we will see the FX-64 hit the market.  All other AM2 processors are officially under embargo until June 6, 2006.


AMD Desktop Processor Price List
Processor Socket SSBP
Athlon 64 FX-62 AM2 $1,236
Athlon 64 X2 5000+ AM2 $696
Athlon 64 X2 4800+ AM2 $645
Athlon 64 X2 4600+ AM2 $558
Athlon 64 X2 4400+ AM2 $469
Athlon 64 X2 4200+ AM2 $365
Athlon 64 X2 4000+ AM2 $328
Athlon 64 X2 3800+ AM2 $303
Athlon 64 3800+ AM2 $290
Athlon 64 3500+ AM2 $208
Sempron 3600+ AM2 $123
Sempron 3500+ AM2 $109
Sempron 3400+ AM2 $97
Sempron 3000+ AM2 $77
Sempron 2800+ AM2 $67

The SSBP above denotes the Suggested System Builder Price. Actual manufacturer purchase prices are approximately 10% less.  And of course, you can be sure those new CPUs will come with heatpipe coolers and new packaging.  AMD insiders have confirmed to us that AM2 motherboards will be shipping for several weeks before the launch to assure widespread availability at launch.



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Dual core prices
By phatboye on 4/3/2006 7:40:06 PM , Rating: 2
I was hoping with the introduction of this new socket amd's dual core cpus would dramatically come down in price.

I guess i'll wait till conroe comes out to see if that drives prices down.




RE: Dual core prices
By TomZ on 4/3/2006 8:09:21 PM , Rating: 2
AMD seems to have taken a page from Intel's pricing strategy. FX-62 at $1300? WTF!?! Intel's EE processors got a lot of criticism about its price at "only" $1000.

Here's to hoping for a price war in late 2006!


RE: Dual core prices
By MDme on 4/3/2006 8:21:11 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I guess we'll all find out if these prices hold true if the Conroe truly performs up to the previews.

On the other hand, maybe AMD has some tricks up it's sleeves if it is indeed pricing these CPUs confidently.

only time will tell. :)


RE: Dual core prices
By nrb on 4/4/2006 6:22:54 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
On the other hand, maybe AMD has some tricks up it's sleeves if it is indeed pricing these CPUs confidently.
AMD will set the prices very high for the first few months to squeeze as much money as they can out of people who simply must have the fastest and best right now , regardless of the cost. They can be confident that these chips will beat anything Intel has to offer before Conroe is released. But when Conroe hits, the prices will fall through the floor. The fact that the prices are high now is not an indication of long-term confidence - quite the reverse, it's because they know their profit margins are going to be in real trouble a few months down the line, and they need to scrabble for every penny while they still can.

(fervently crosses fingers that K8L will be serious competition for quad-core Intel chips)


RE: Dual core prices
By tedrodai on 4/4/2006 11:53:06 AM , Rating: 2
That's what I'm hoping to see, but even though I've been wanting to build an AMD computer for a year now (finally have a budget for it), I can GUARANTEE I'll be buying an Intel if they're price/performance is better. The Conroe benchmarks were compared to a currently released AMD product, yes, but considering even the FX-53 hasn't reached the <$600 point yet, AMD will really have to work some magic to keep me as a potential customer.


RE: Dual core prices
By tedrodai on 4/4/2006 11:54:33 AM , Rating: 2
*their


RE: Dual core prices
By Jep4444 on 4/4/2006 2:12:16 PM , Rating: 2
you know that the difference between an Fx-53 and a 4000+ is an upwardly locked multiplier right? the Fx-53 has been discontinued with the 4000+ selling in its place for $334 on newegg


RE: Dual core prices
By redbone75 on 4/3/2006 9:03:43 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
AMD seems to have taken a page from Intel's pricing strategy. FX-62 at $1300? WTF!?! Intel's EE processors got a lot of criticism about its price at "only" $1000.


Exactly where have you seen a cheap FX series processor? Last I checked the cheapest FX processors are still around $800. The FX series is the price equivalent of the EE series.


RE: Dual core prices
By TomZ on 4/3/2006 9:23:55 PM , Rating: 2
I miss the days when AMD had "friendly" pricing. Now they've joined Intel in "what the market will bear" pricing.


RE: Dual core prices
By bob661 on 4/4/2006 11:36:26 AM , Rating: 2
Why does everyone think that Conroe is going to be cheaper? If it truly turns out to be a good product, why would Intel sell it for cheap? Intel's never done that in the past when they had a good product. Why would they start now? BTW, EE CPU's are STILL over $1000. http://tinyurl.com/cxe98


RE: Dual core prices
By coldpower27 on 4/4/2006 8:56:14 PM , Rating: 2
They are going for agressive pricing to gain back desktop marketshare, once that is completely they can start charging more for their processors again. For the moment the plan is to regain marketshare and lots of it quickly. Agressive pricing is great way to start.


By natewildes on 4/3/2006 6:09:26 PM , Rating: 2
Great to see the pricing of AM2 not much higher than s939, but where are the desktop Opterons we all know and love?? Hopefull they'll be along soon....




By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 4/3/2006 6:13:15 PM , Rating: 2
So far as I know, there will not be Socket AM2 Opterons. There might be the equvialent of 1xx Opterons for Socket F.


By peternelson on 4/3/2006 7:58:53 PM , Rating: 2

EARLY information said that for Opterons....

2xx and 8xx equivalents would be available on SOCKET F.
1xx Opteron equivalents would be available on SOCKET AM2.

Was there a major change in plans?

Don't you mean to say that 1xx opteron on AM2 will arrive a little after Athlon64 on AM2?


By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 4/3/2006 8:16:20 PM , Rating: 2
Well, the roadmaps don't have 1xx Opterons on AM2 right now, but that doesn't mean they won't be. Its one of the hottest AMD products right now so I doubt they will be removing it... it just isn't on any of the roadmaps I have.


By latrosicarius on 4/4/2006 12:50:42 AM , Rating: 3
Who would buy a $200-dollar, brand spanking new AM2 motherboard, and over $100-dollars for shiney new DDR2 RAM and then get a frickin $67-dollar Sempron??? That is just hysterical lol.


By Googer on 4/4/2006 2:30:12 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Who would buy a $200-dollar, brand spanking new AM2 motherboard, and over $100-dollars for shiney new DDR2 RAM and then get a frickin $67-dollar Sempron??? That is just hysterical lol.


For many reasons.

One, most of the newest and fastest processors will be supported by socket M2 and proably not 939.


Two, Most socket 939 motherboards do not support more than 4GB of RAM (ABIT is the exception @ 8GB). Because if you eventually want more than 4GB on a 64BIT OS it will more than likely be DDR2 that provides the quantity of RAM needed to take advantage of 64BIT and there are several reasons for this:

1) As mentioned 98% of socket 939 motherboards will not address more than 4GB. Socket 940 is a differant story, so those of you with early AMD FX's in SKT940 are still in luck if you want 16GB.

2 Many experts agree that DDR1 will eventually start to rise in price and become more expensive. Histroy has proven this to be fairly correct. The price per MB of PC 133 used to be cheaper when DDR was introduced, but in recent times SDR now costs twice as much per MB when comparied to modern DDR. $75 will get you 1GB of DDR or about 512MB or SDR PC100/133.

3) Memory Density will grow much faster and higher with DDR2, while DDR1's increasing desisty (over time) will some day soon come to a halt.

(My Opinion)
I do not expect to see any or if any very few modules of DDR1 over 48 Gigabytes in size*. The server market's appitite for Regesterd-ECC may prove me partialy wrong on module size but only time may tell.

*Yes, they do make 4GB modules but they may not get much bigger than that. 8GB DIMM's I doubt it, but Who knows.


By Googer on 4/4/2006 2:31:20 AM , Rating: 2
Correction to my post above:

I do not expect to see any or if any very few modules of DDR1 over 4 to 8 Gigabytes in size*


By josmala on 4/10/2006 11:05:37 AM , Rating: 2
More likely choice for AM2 semprons, is...
MB with integrated GFX 80$ +Some elcheapo DDR2 + sempron+
rest of the system.
Almost no-one is expected to UPGRADE socket AM2. More likely event is people are building new systems with socket AM2. The DDR2 ram is cheaper than DDR if you don't go for higher speed grades. Also the new socket over doubles the bandwith available to integrated memory controller. And you can use existing chipsets with new socket, so the MB costs won't be huge.


By Merglet on 5/3/2006 3:45:33 PM , Rating: 2
First, I wouldn't buy a $200 motherboard, I don't need it, I can get the best out of lower priced stuff... $130, easy.

Second, I want to upgrade, but have what we who live in the "real world" call a "budget". My mommy and daddy don't buy me my stuff, and the love of my life isn't going to be so friendly if I just say "screw us doing anything for a month".
So, the choice is, save and wait, or use one paycheque to buy a new motherboard, new memory, new low end graphics card (since I'm still running agp) and the cheapest proc they have for am2. Then I save up to upgrade the cpu and graphics. That would be two more paycheques.

Maybe when you get into life where stuff like living costs money, you'll realise that not everyone can just blow off $2000 every week.


By Visual on 4/4/2006 3:25:59 AM , Rating: 2
Why on earth would you want an opteron for the desktop now?
the main reason 939 opterons were a hit on desktops was because there just weren't athlonxp equivalents for them - specifically, low multi (i.e. cheap prices) with high l2.
on the AM2 there will be the cheap x2 4000+ to replace the need for 165/170 opterons, im not sure about the l2 sizes on singlecores though. but anyway the future is dualcore.

truth be told, i always felt bad that AMD had those cheap-but-good opterons and refused to have an equivalent athlon, now things are getting better.


By JaredExtreme on 4/3/2006 7:29:06 PM , Rating: 2
Given that the benchmarks show very little, if any, improvement over socket 939, are there any reasons why someone should choose AM2 over 939 after you factor in the added cost of DDR2?




By Le Québécois on 4/3/2006 7:34:11 PM , Rating: 2
Added cost of DDR2? The price on DDR2 is droping every day now and the DDR price seems to go up lately...slowly, but still.


RE: Do we have a reason to choose AM2 over 939 yet?
By TomZ on 4/3/2006 8:14:19 PM , Rating: 2
Three reasons to choose AM2:

1. Because DDR2 is/will be cheaper than DDR, due to economy of scale since Intel systems already use DDR2

2. New, higher performance AMD processors will use AM2 and not 939

3. Because 939 socket processors will go the way of the dinosaur


By Nehemoth on 4/3/2006 8:54:45 PM , Rating: 2
Also Pacifica and Virtualization..

Also too me there are something that AMD have under the sleve for us..



By randomlinh on 4/3/2006 9:59:35 PM , Rating: 2
but AM2 will be first gen... I've made that mistake twice (first generation k6, first generation nf2). Not that it was terrible... not that I'm buying anytime soon anyway


By Nehemoth on 4/4/2006 7:28:42 AM , Rating: 2
Also those were other times nor AMD nor Nvidia are the same company of times before.

I remember those time when you have to wait for a second revision of a chipset (insert you via favorite chipset here)for to take the approach promise for the first generation.

I'm impatient waiting for rhis platform, i really wanna see what will have for us.


No price cuts
By obeseotron on 4/3/2006 9:28:31 PM , Rating: 2
Looks completely uninteresting to me. Talk about stagnation, my 2 year old Athlon64 3500+ only cost 3 hundred and change, 2 years later the price has fallen a little over a hundred dollars. It used to be unthinkable that over the course of 2 years you would even be able to buy the same processor. No cheap dual cores are coming, and AM2 may not even be faster than 939. I guess they are happy with their success and are selling their whole capacity so there is no reason to cut the price, but they are going to lose the entire enthusiast market when Conroe comes out if they don't have a better plan than this. I know I'll be jumping ship to Intel for sure.




RE: No price cuts
By Haggar on 4/3/2006 9:32:06 PM , Rating: 3
Erm dude, first you talk about money...like on a low budget...then you say you're jumping ship to Intel for the Conroe, did you get a pay rise?

Why not wait for the AMD varient which will be cheaper, and most likely beat it in performance...you must be an enthusiast for sure to go with Intel ;)


RE: No price cuts
By coldpower27 on 4/3/2006 10:42:13 PM , Rating: 1
Wait till when Core Duo E6600 2.4GHZ/1066FSB/4MB Cache is going to be 316US, closest equivalent is the Athlon 64x2 4000+ 2.0GHZ/2x1MB for 328US.... which is a complete joke as a Conroe stomps a Athlon 64x2 at equal GHZ, never mind a 20% clockspeed advantage....


RE: No price cuts
By bob661 on 4/4/2006 11:42:50 AM , Rating: 2
Where did you get your pricing info? Link please.


RE: No price cuts
By coldpower27 on 4/4/2006 8:57:21 PM , Rating: 2
No link necessary now as Dailytech has done thier own piece on Conroe pricing which conforms to the leaked pricing charts of Conroe seen for the past few months.


RE: No price cuts
By blckgrffn on 4/5/2006 2:34:22 AM , Rating: 2
Oh yeah, because you are the king of knowing all this knowledge and getting all the numbers right ;)

You know AMD can cut prices big right now if they wanted, but lets all give them a hand for running in the black long enough to give intel some serious competition now and down the road.

Nat


Nice
By Gigahertz19 on 4/3/2006 6:11:58 PM , Rating: 2
Perfect timing, 1 week after I get out of college for the summer I'll be able to build a much needed new computer. Can't wait till May 15th!

Athlon 64 X2 4400+ is what I think I'll get, I think that's the lowest speed X2 that still has the larger L2 Cache. I'll just have to overclock it to 5000+ levels.

Conroe benchies look really nice though, not sure if I should wait to build a new one then...that's out Q3 (July-September) time frame I think?...of course then I'll want to wait for something else new coming out and play the waiting game over and over.




RE: Nice
By hotdog453 on 4/3/2006 7:01:12 PM , Rating: 2
Wait to see what Conroe brings to the table, if only for the simple reason the prices on the AMD stuff may fall if it starts getting stomped on.


RE: Nice
By bob661 on 4/4/2006 11:32:20 AM , Rating: 2
I don't think the prices are bad so I won't waiting. Besides, I don't think Conroe will be any cheaper.


RE: Nice
By Kougar on 4/4/2006 10:13:11 PM , Rating: 2
Ya think so? http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=1619

Also, $209 for Pentium D 940? I wonder what the 930 and 920 will be going for... Preslar at 4.6ghz is a fairly even match for a 2.9ghz OCed FX-60. Even if Conroe will blow the Preslar out of the water, how about that kind of performance for about $150?


whoah
By Howard on 4/3/2006 8:34:29 PM , Rating: 2
ALL the stock HSFs will have heat pipes? Excellent!




RE: whoah
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 4/3/2006 8:59:14 PM , Rating: 2
All Athlon 64 CPUs already do.


RE: whoah
By Haggar on 4/3/2006 9:28:49 PM , Rating: 2
Judging from the pricing, it seems the Athlon 64 X2 5000+ will have 512k cache, does anyone have confirmation on this?


RE: whoah
By smut on 4/10/2006 1:24:10 AM , Rating: 2
No they dont, only dual core CPUs do. Not single coreAthlon 64 chips or even single core opterons.


yeehaw
By BassBomb on 4/3/2006 6:11:17 PM , Rating: 2
optys wont be AM2 :P

ah so i see the thing in my price range now is a AM2 3500+... wait this is USD.. wait by the time i buy it will be that price in CDN :D

whats are the clockspeeds associated with the model numbers




RE: yeehaw
By phaxmohdem on 4/3/2006 10:37:11 PM , Rating: 2
IIRC, the clocks are the same for the chips as the socket 939. The 5000+ is a 2.6GHz part w/ 512K Cache, while the FX-62 is a DC 2.8 GHz I believe.


RE: yeehaw
By bob661 on 4/4/2006 11:31:20 AM , Rating: 2
I believe you are correct sir.


X2 4000?
By WillS on 4/3/2006 7:13:42 PM , Rating: 2
Is the X2 4000+ a misprint? Shouldn't it be a single core 4000+?




RE: X2 4000?
By Visual on 4/4/2006 3:34:03 AM , Rating: 2
i sure hope its not. we need a cheap 2mb l2 x2, the 4400 is too expencive for me.


Low TDP pricing?
By vilme on 4/4/2006 8:32:11 AM , Rating: 2
As far as I can see there isn't any pricing on the energy efficient processors yet - or...? I'm dying to find out what the princing is going to be.

After my old Socket A system broke down i february I've been waiting on news on the AM2 platform. Can't wait to get an AM2 system with af low TDP X2 3800+, DDR2 and 7600GT (that's what the budget can take by the moment, or at least that's what I think)

I wouldn't be surprised if the prices in Europe is going to be a little higher, or at least in little Denmark, which I'm from.




RE: Low TDP pricing?
By RichPLS on 4/5/2006 8:55:29 AM , Rating: 2
June 6th Intel will release the "Conroe" The Beast... then we shall see if chipzilla's spawn is a chickenhawk or GodZilla...


By Crescent13 on 4/3/2006 9:51:17 PM , Rating: 2
Anyway, looks cool. Can't wait for AM2. Hopefully the performance won't suck as much as benchies have shown.




My theory:
By Fenixgoon on 4/3/2006 10:07:13 PM , Rating: 2
AM2 Sempron and clock the hell out of it :D

did that for my S754 rig, and what a budget machine! *hugs tower tightly*




By coldpower27 on 4/3/2006 10:33:24 PM , Rating: 2

Basically for most Socket AM2 part = Socket 939 + 2US :P




Cheap chips
By HmmmDonut on 4/3/2006 11:23:11 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know about you guys but the only interesting thing there is the semprons. Cheap, highly overclockable chips that can hold me off till 65nm. That is only if I decide to upgrade of course. Conroe won't have my heart until I have benches.





Russia joke woot
By blwest on 4/3/06, Rating: -1
"I modded down, down, down, and the flames went higher." -- Sven Olsen

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