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AMD plans to launch two Phenom X4 and three X2 models within the next three quarters

AMD’s latest roadmap reveals the company’s model numbers for the performance and mainstream Phenom X4 and X2 processors. Despite AMD issuing model numbers, the clock speeds are still ballpark figures and not yet set in stone. AMD has two Phenom X4 and three X2 models planned. Three of the models are set for a Q4’2007 launch.

The Agena-based Phenom X4 processors carry the GP-7xxx model number. There will be two Phenom X4 GP-7xxx processors at launch – the GP-7100 and the GP-7000. AMD plans to clock the Phenom X4 GP-7100 from 2.2-to-2.4 GHz. The Phenom X4 GP-7100 has a 3600 MHz HyperTransport 3.0, or HT3, bus speed. The lesser Phenom X4 GP-7000 has a targeted clock speed between 2.0-to-2.2 GHz and a lesser HT3 bus speed in excess of 3200 MHz. The two quad-core processors will have 89-watt thermal ratings.

AMD plans to launch one Phenom X2 GP-6xxx model by the end of the year. The Phenom X2 GP-6550 joins the Phenom line up next quarter clocked somewhere between 2.0-to-2.4 GHz. The first Phenom X2 to launch has a 3600 MHz HT3 bus speed. This model has a TDP of 65 watts.

Two more Phenom X2 GP-6xxx models will join the lineup in Q1’2008. The Phenom X2 GP-6650 will launch first between 2.2-to-2.6 GHz with a 3600 MHz HT3 bus speed. This model has a 65-watt TDP, similar to the GP-6550. The next Phenom X2 GP-6xxx model to launch is the GP-6800. This model has a higher 89-watt TDP, but still a dual-core processor. AMD aims for a 2.4-to-2.8 GHz clock speed with a 4000 MHz HT3 bus speed.

In Q2’2008, AMD plans to launch one more Stars processor based on the Rana core. This model does not carry the Phenom name because it’s a lower end mainstream processor without L3 cache. The Athlon X2 LS-2350 aims to clock in at 2.0-to-2.2 GHz with a 3200 MHz HT3 bus speed.

The 3.0 GHz Phenom processor that AMD demonstrated last week during its Analyst Day does not appear anywhere in the most recent desktop roadmap.

AMD's latest guidance explains that sample availability for AM2 Phenom will begin in the "September/October" window, with box stock during "November/December." 


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OK, say the thing tops out at 2.4 GHz
By Amiga500 on 7/28/2007 6:27:49 AM , Rating: 5
OK, say the thing tops out at 2.4 GHz and is 20% faster (than conroe) clock-for-clock on Int, that makes it broadly equivalent to a 2.9 GHz conroe.

If its 40% faster on Ipc, that makes it approx equal to a 3.3 GHz Conroe.

I have heard these ballpark figures from people with access to engineering samples. I know Penryn has moved things on a bit.

But bottom line is, do AMD need to release the 3.0 GHz chip right now to take top-spot?

They might want to refine the manufacturing process more with respins, to bring the TDP down (after all, if it doesn't fit the existing thermal envelopes, its not a clear upgrade path from the 2000 series Opterons like they said it would be).

It is possible Barcelona will give them back the performance crown... however, with the lack of info coming out, its also possible it is a complete turkey, and the company will do well to survive until Shanghai and later, Bulldozer.




RE: OK, say the thing tops out at 2.4 GHz
By fake01 on 7/28/2007 7:50:21 AM , Rating: 1
Come to think about it, If Barcelona at 2.4GHz really does match say Penryn at 3GHz-3.3GHz than why on Earth would AMD want to bring out a 3GHz Barcelona CPU. It's quite possible that AMD can get a stable 3GHz speed, but is keeping it until Intel bring out a really fast Penryn?

C2D at 3GHz may beat AMD's current fastest (X2 6000+, and "may" soon be released X2 6400+) by a fair margin. But the gap between a 3GHz Barcelona and 3.3GHz Penryn will be even far greater on AMD's way, thats to say if Barcelona lives up to its expectations. So I don't think its really necessary for AMD to bring out a 3GHz chip straight away.


RE: OK, say the thing tops out at 2.4 GHz
By Spoelie on 7/28/07, Rating: 0
RE: OK, say the thing tops out at 2.4 GHz
By coldpower27 on 7/28/2007 11:31:50 AM , Rating: 3
Other way around I assume equal or slightly behind in INT and superior in FP.


RE: OK, say the thing tops out at 2.4 GHz
By Spoelie on 7/29/07, Rating: 0
By Gul Westfale on 7/29/2007 2:23:38 PM , Rating: 2
sure, K8 from an architecture to architecture standpoint is competitive with intel's core; but intel has always had a huge advantage in manufacturing technology. that in turn allows them to increase clockspeeds rapidly, while AMD is struggling to reach the 3GHz barrier.

with phenom AMD must show that their chip is not only good on paper but that they can actually make the thing run fast enough to be competitive in the real world. i'd really like to see that (i've been an AMD customer since 2000), but the lack of info from AMD does have me a bit worried.


RE: OK, say the thing tops out at 2.4 GHz
By defter on 7/28/07, Rating: -1
RE: OK, say the thing tops out at 2.4 GHz
By Comdrpopnfresh on 7/29/2007 11:51:34 AM , Rating: 3
Why do you suspect that Penryn will be 5-10% faster than Conroe? It is simply a die shrink. Maybe a 1-3% increase could be seen, but for the most part the increases will come from efficiencies: thermals and voltage, so therefore power consumption and overclockability, as well as the availability to produce higher-speed chips which meet or beat Conroes of the same TDP and voltage.


By Shintai on 7/29/2007 4:47:51 PM , Rating: 3
By Maskarat on 7/29/2007 5:17:47 PM , Rating: 5
And why should you think that a 2.4 ghz Barcelona is anything near a 3ghz penryn! We have seen hard rock benchmarks of neither product!

So until now .. both sides have just been issuing PR junk! When C2D was first demonstrated by Intel.. i remember AMD guys shouting .. "Oh no.. those are cooked numbers! It's not possible" .. now a year and a half after .. they are quick to jump on ship because of some promises. Come on!! When these two new products come out .. they'll come out .. till then .. it's all a big blob!


Frustrating....
By PaxtonFettel on 7/28/2007 6:21:19 AM , Rating: 2
I'm sure that I, like everyone else, am waiting with absolutely baited breath for these processors to become available. But no matter how many 'demos' model numbers and roadmaps they release, AMD seem to incapable of giving us anything of any substance to go on.

Is anyone else finding all this teasing and waiting as frustrating as I am?




RE: Frustrating....
By crystal clear on 7/28/07, Rating: -1
RE: Frustrating....
By General Disturbance on 7/28/07, Rating: -1
RE: Frustrating....
By PaxtonFettel on 7/29/2007 10:20:27 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not an AMD fanboy by any measure, I jump on whatever bandwagon offers best price/performance at the time, this time round I have an OC'd E6400 (anda mobo that'll, hopefully, accept the 45nm chips in the future) whereas my last PC was a K7, and damned good too!

I'm just worried about the AMD good-bye bit. I don't want to say good bye to AMD, we need the competition! Without AMD we'd never be in the position we are now, with very competant chips at every single price point. It's a great situation for the consumer and I don't think anyone wants it to end.


RE: Frustrating....
By KnightProdigy on 7/29/2007 6:13:17 PM , Rating: 5
If your that easy to say good bye, than I'm sure AMD wont miss ya.
Intel has been in the same situation AMD is now, but for YEARS. Intel couldnt produce anything that could compete with the 6x86 or the inception of AMDs 3D Now from back in the day.
Conroe is Intel's 1st winner since the Pentium!
AMD WILL regain the crown, than I can see you gettin your balls in a pinch as you plan for your next AMD rig.

With AMD positioning themsleves for the future, they have put the speed competition to rest.
I dont blame them. They announce new technology more than Intel. Intel has been copying things competitiors come up with for a long time, their only REAL strength is having the finances to rush these technologies to market first.

I will never go back to being an Intel Fanboi. It's goodbye Intel for me.


RE: Frustrating....
By JWalk on 7/30/2007 10:34:27 AM , Rating: 5
As of Q2 2007, AMD's market share is 11.4 per cent. Intel's market share is 80.3 per cent. Looking at those numbers, I'm pretty sure AMD will miss any and every one they lose. Even people who post negative comments about them on DT. ;)

As far as the Phenom/Penryn pissing match? No one here knows how things will shake out right now. We won't know until the chips hit the market. Of course, no matter who ends up on top, we will be right back where we started. The "fans" of the winner will sing it's praises. And, the "fans" of the loser will say, "just wait until the next release when we will pwn you!" Same song, different verse. LOL


Time is what i have
By bassjunkie on 7/28/2007 3:31:50 AM , Rating: 2
Your all way to quick to judge.. we all knew months ago they was not planning a 3Ghz CPU on release :P and to Gul Westfale the Hyper Transport being higher than the Clock speed is not bad you Nab.

Just wait and see like we are already waiting, I got Intel like the rest do but I'm so looking forward to these AMD Chips :)




RE: Time is what i have
By Gul Westfale on 7/28/2007 7:20:19 AM , Rating: 2
i knoiw it's not "bad" to have more bandwidth it just seemed funny to me that the bus is faster than the chip. i mean CPUs have been stuck at 2-3GHz (a bit more for intel) for quite some time now, and now the bus is faster than the CPU... it just seems weird, that's all.


RE: Time is what i have
By Fozzik on 7/28/2007 8:21:06 AM , Rating: 3
Well, if I'm not mistaken they are probably still quoting the "effective" speed of the Hypertransport bus. It's full duplex, so they have always doubled the actual clock speed for the marketing. The current Hypertransport is often referred to as a 2GHz bus, only because it's 1GHz in both directions at the same time.

So my guess would be the new buses are 1.6 - 1.8GHz, running full duplex. I could be wrong though...I haven't been following things that closely. =)