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Hardware AMD Quietly Releases Athlon 64 X2 5200+
Anh Tuan Huynh (Blog) - September 6, 2006 3:01 PM
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The Athlon 64 FX-60 gets reincarnated as the X2 5200+

AMD has quietly released a new Athlon 64 X2 5200+ processor for AM2 platforms. DailyTech previously reported AMD was expected to launch new Athlon 64 X2 5200+ processors. The Athlon 64 X2 5200+ is essentially identical to the previous socket 939 Athlon 64 FX-60, with the exception of socket and memory support. Clock frequency of the Athlon 64 X2 5200+ is also identical to the previous X2 5000+ at 2.6 GHz. The only difference with the X2 5200+ is the 2x1MB L2 cache configuration which delivers slightly better performance in cache intensive applications. The power envelope has increased due to the added L2 cache. While the X2 5000+ has a 65 watt TDP, the X2 5200+ TDP has increased to 89 watts.

DailyTech asked AMD representatives why the Athlon 64 X2 5200+ was launched quietly without any press releases or reviews. AMD PR person Damon Muzny stated the X2 5200+ would offer similar performance to the older Athlon 64 FX-60 and world wide reviews weren’t necessary as an Athlon 64 FX-62 clocked with the multiplier dropped would demonstrate identical performance.

AMD’s Athlon 64 X2 5200+ is available immediately. PIB pricing is $403 each for 1000 units.

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is this 939 or am2?
By hondaman on 9/6/2006 5:54:51 PM , Rating: 4
I hope its 939 so AMD will give me something to upgrade to.

I'm passing on AM2 till they build something worth buying.




RE: is this 939 or am2?
By smitty3268 on 9/6/2006 6:05:41 PM , Rating: 4
So you want to buy this, but you won't move to AM2 unless they build something worth buying. Hmm...


RE: is this 939 or am2?
By finalfan on 9/6/2006 6:23:57 PM , Rating: 2
He does not want to buy this unless it's 939, and won't move to AM2 unless they build something worth buying (new motherboard and memory)


RE: is this 939 or am2?
By smitty3268 on 9/6/2006 7:07:47 PM , Rating: 2
I don't get it - he obviously thinks this processor is worth buying. Do you mean he is waiting until a better MB is made? Faster memory?


RE: is this 939 or am2?
By hondaman on 9/6/2006 7:36:48 PM , Rating: 5
Not quite sure what the problem understanding this is.

AM2 is a dud. And Ive bought NOTHING but AMD products since my first cpu back in 1996, a Pentium 166.

When AMD makes something worth the upgrade, on a value for dollar level, I'll buy it. AM2, the cpu, isnt it, as I'm not about to dump my 4400, a8n32, and 4 gigs of ram for an AM2, new motherboard, and 4 gigs of ddr2 ram for _very_ marginal speed increases.



RE: is this 939 or am2?
By Bonrock on 9/7/2006 2:41:49 AM , Rating: 1
I'm sorry, but if you already have an Athlon X2 4400+, then why are you looking to upgrade at all? Do you really have that much extra cash burning a hole in your pocket? You already have a faster processor than 98% of computer users.

I'm a computer geek too but sometimes I just don't understand what's wrong with my fellow geeks.


RE: is this 939 or am2?
By hondaman on 9/7/2006 2:52:46 PM , Rating: 2
I buy stuff based on my particular needs. And very often I reach the threshhold (read: pegging) my current cpu, a 4400+



RE: is this 939 or am2?
By kilkennycat on 9/7/2006 3:49:16 PM , Rating: 2
My 939-pin X2 4400+ overclocks at 2.65GHz and is fully stable running all torture-tests ( multiple simultaneous instances of Prime95 etc...etc..) I'm happy until the quad-core processors from both AMD (on 65nm) and Intel arrive around the middle of next year. Also, second-gen Dx10 video cards should be beginning to emerge by then.


RE: is this 939 or am2?
By hondaman on 9/6/2006 6:52:37 PM , Rating: 2
Correct.

AM2 is a waste of money imo.

Ill stick with 939 till they make something better.


RE: is this 939 or am2?
By Targon on 9/6/2006 7:15:03 PM , Rating: 2
AM2 isn't the problem, it's just that the current 800MHz DDR-2 isn't enough to make it worth switching to. Going to 1066MHz would probably make it so AM2 will have enough of a benefit to switch to.



RE: is this 939 or am2?
By Spoelie on 9/7/2006 9:58:39 AM , Rating: 2
RE: is this 939 or am2?
By retrospooty on 9/7/2006 9:58:48 AM , Rating: 2
"the current 800MHz DDR-2 isn't enough to make it worth switching to."

exactly. I dont think ddr2 1066 is much of an improvement either, just minor.


RE: is this 939 or am2?
By twjr on 9/6/2006 7:18:40 PM , Rating: 2
Dude it would be totally pointless it being released as 939 seeing it is identicall specd to an fx60.


RE: is this 939 or am2?
By hondaman on 9/6/2006 7:38:52 PM , Rating: 2
Its not identical.

FX series are unlocked, and aimed for the enthusiast.

There are plenty of "+" series AMD cpu's faster than FX chips.


5000+ X2 on Newegg
By bob661 on 9/6/2006 6:36:58 PM , Rating: 2
The X2 5000 is on Newegg (yes I know the article is about the 5200). I thought the 5000 was suppsoed to be around $300?




RE: 5000+ X2 on Newegg
By johnsonx on 9/6/2006 10:31:40 PM , Rating: 1
just call 'em GougeEgg. Notice the 4000+ is $429 too. I guess they're holding out for a few suckers.


RE: 5000+ X2 on Newegg
By Frank M on 9/7/2006 12:14:27 AM , Rating: 2
Really? I've never had anything but good experiences with newegg. Who do you buy from?


RE: 5000+ X2 on Newegg
By johnsonx on 9/7/2006 12:47:37 AM , Rating: 2
I buy almost everything from NewEgg (for business too, so we're talking tens of thousands per year minimum). But that doesn't mean they don't price-gouge on new products like many other retailers do. Presuming that NewEgg buys from AMD, their cost for a 5000+ is about half what they are charging for one; their cost isn't higher just because there aren't as many available (unless they've had to turn to 3rd party sources because supply is so tight).

I suppose the rule is what the market will bear, but that doesn't mean I can't grouse about it. I don't buy the sorts of products that get price-gouged anyway, so my griping is somewhat academic; I stick to the budget and midrange waters of the market.


RE: 5000+ X2 on Newegg
By bob661 on 9/7/2006 1:01:23 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
just call 'em GougeEgg. Notice the 4000+ is $429 too. I guess they're holding out for a few suckers.
The 4000 is a 1MB cache CPU so I understand the cost. It's just that the 5000 (512MB cache) was supposed to be $300 or thereabouts. Maybe there aren't many in stock and there's high demand?


Errors
By chedrz on 9/6/2006 5:25:41 PM , Rating: 2
Should say 5200+, not 5000+ or 52000+.




RE: Errors
By Furen on 9/7/2006 2:43:37 AM , Rating: 2
=)

And here I thought AMD had increased performance by an order of magnitude...


RE: Errors
By JackPack on 9/7/2006 3:28:42 AM , Rating: 2
The ultimate rebadge....

Come on AMD, I can't believe you guys are expecting FX-64 to hold the tide until Q3'07.