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AMD processors launching starting in January 2009 through June 2009 unveiled

AMD is placing its hopes of regaining market share lost to Intel on its new line of processors set for launch next year. AMD is planning to launch a lot of processors, 14 of them to be exact according to the latest roadmap uncovered.

HKEPC says that the different processors to be launched will use the Phenom II brand and some will bring back the Athlon name. The new parts will all be 45nm desktop processors and will start coming to market in January 2009, a few of them likely to be announced for CES 2009 in early January. New processor introductions are reported to last until June when all of the new parts will be official.

When AMD first announced its new processors, the naming convention was unanimously disliked with its Phenom branding along with a five-digit model number. The parts will now launch under the brand names previously mentioned and sport a three-digit product identifier.

45nm quad-core processors for the AM2+ and AM3+ sockets will be in the Phenom II X4 900 family and Phenom X4 905 family. A 4MB L3 cache version of the Deneb CPU will also be added in the Phenom II X4 800 family. The Phenom II X4 900 and 905 CPUs will have 2MB of L3 cache.

The launch date for the 45nm AM2+ quad-core Deneb is now reported to be January 8; the CPU was originally expected in mid-December. When February 2009 rolls around, AMD will unveil six socket AM3 45nm processors including the Phenom II X4 925 with 6MB of L3 cache and a Phenom II X4 910 with the same cache. A pair of 4MB L3 cache processors, the Phenom II X4 810 and Phenom II X3 710 will debut the same month. Also tipping up in February will be a pair of 6MB L3 cache CPUs including the Phenom X3 720 and the Phenom II X3 710.

CPUs to be released under the Athlon brand will be 45nm, but will lack the L3 cache of the higher end parts. The Athlon X2 200 family will feature two parts and will offer 2MB of L2 cache with a 65W TDP and is slated for release in June. DailyTech reported on an AMD roadmap in November that mentioned a few of these processor families by code name.

The breakdown of processors looks like this:

January 2009:

  • Phenom II X4 940 at 3GHz, 8MB total cache using the AM2+ socket
  • Phenom II X4 920 at 2.8GHz with 8MB of total cache on the AM2+ socket

February 2009:

  • Phenom II X4 910 2.6GHz with  8MB total cache on the AM3 socket 
  • Phenom II X4 810 Phenom II X4 810 2.6GHz with  6MB total cache on the AM3 socket
  • Phenom II X4 805 Phenom II X4 805 2.5GHz with 6MB total cache on the AM3 socket
  • Phenom II X3 720 Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz with 7.5MB total cache on the AM3 socket  
  • Phenom II X3 710 Phenom II X3 710 2.6GHz with 7.5MB total cache on the AM3 socket

April 2009:

  • Phenom II X4 945 3.0GHz with 8MB total cache on the AM3 socket
  • Athlon X4 615 2.7GHz with 2MB total cache on the AM3 socket
  • Athlon X4 605 2.5GHz with 2MB total cache on the AM3 socket
  • Athlon X3 420 Athlon X3 420 2.8GHz with 1.5MB total cache on the AM3 socket
  • Athlon X3 410 Athlon X3 410 2.6GHz with 1.5MB total cache on the AM3 socket

June 2009:

  • Athlon X2 240 2.8GHz with 2MB total cache on the AM3 socket
  • Athlon X2 235 Athlon X2 235 2.7GHz with 2MB total cache on the AM3 socket


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Confusion?
By MikeMurphy on 12/2/2008 12:57:04 PM , Rating: 2
I wasn't confused before, but I am now. Sure they knocked off the fourth digit, but they added two more as a Phenom "II". The rest of the numbers are a bit confusing, and the AM3 socket seems to be randomly placed within.

Intel's chip naming makes much more sense to me.




RE: Confusion?
By piroroadkill on 12/2/2008 1:00:41 PM , Rating: 5
Who cares, even with Intel I often need to look it up.

The point here is that a retail 3GHz Phenom may start to look like a decent alternative. Keep ramping those clocks, AMD!


RE: Confusion?
By foolsgambit11 on 12/2/2008 1:29:51 PM , Rating: 5
Isn't it funny, in 6 years, we've gone from 3 GHz to... 3 GHz. (P4 @ 3.06 GHz released Nov 2002)

Of course, clock for clock, the performance picture is much more encouraging. And from an engineering standpoint, 4 cores on a single chip, one with nearly the same footprint as those first 3 GHz P4s.... Wow.


RE: Confusion?
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 12/2/2008 4:48:59 PM , Rating: 2
The Physical footprint is actually a tad smaller. In the area of heat, its cooler. Power draw is also down. As was stated several years ago, we've gone from the GHz race to the Core race, and expect to go back to the MHz race sometime in the next 3-4 years.


RE: Confusion?
By Lifted on 12/2/2008 5:30:46 PM , Rating: 5
What's more confusing is that names are listed twice are listed twice.


RE: Confusion?
By TMV192 on 12/2/08, Rating: -1
RE: Confusion?
By Scrogneugneu on 12/2/2008 8:23:15 PM , Rating: 5
Give this man a medal.


RE: Confusion?
By cheetah2k on 12/2/2008 9:37:52 PM , Rating: 3
I always wanted my Athlon with some Athlon

Dont you?


RE: Confusion?
By spread on 12/2/2008 8:44:15 PM , Rating: 3
A quartz crystal 'runs faster'. 32GHz.


RE: Confusion?
By Jedi2155 on 12/2/2008 11:36:22 PM , Rating: 2
Now get those stray capacitance out of your MOSFETs and then talk to me :).


RE: Confusion?
By Targon on 12/2/2008 11:26:44 PM , Rating: 2
Quad core at 3GHz per core with lower power draw is a pretty good step in the right direction. It will also be interesting to see if these 3GHz versions can be easily overclocked to 4GHz or not.

Remember also that a 2.2GHz Athlon 64 single core were close to the performance of a 3.2GHz Pentium 4(average across benchmarks, not in every case). With that sort of performance difference, things really look a bit better.

One thing that many people notice is how long it has taken for AMD to get their new generation of processors to the same clock rate the older K8 could get to with dual cores. For quite a while, the choice between a dual-core at 3GHz and a quad-core running at 2.2GHz wasn't always easy depending on what applications you run. Now with this new generation, there is no negative to going with the quad core.


RE: Confusion?
By Screwballl on 12/4/2008 1:05:03 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Now with this new generation, there is no negative to going with the quad core.


Except with gaming... very few games actually take advantage of multiple cores, even today. You will see better gaming performance from a dual core E8400 at 3GHz than you will a 2.2GHz quad core.

Of course with the new quads clocking in close to the dual core counterparts, this becomes less of a factor.


RE: Confusion?
By mmntech on 12/2/2008 1:17:20 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
and the AM3 socket seems to be randomly placed within.

Not really. It's part of AMD's transition to DDR3 memory. Only January's chips are still AM2+/DDR2, everything February and later will support AM3/DDR3. Looks like it will be optimized for DDR3-1600 given the HyperTransport base clock of 200mhz.


RE: Confusion?
By eye smite on 12/2/2008 3:16:25 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, but unless AMD has changed it's plans am3 cpu's will be backwards compatible with am2 boards and that will make it nice and affordable for me. Love my tricore black edition, runs stable at 3ghz on air cooling.


RE: Confusion?
By Crusty on 12/2/2008 1:51:24 PM , Rating: 1
How is AM3 confusing? It looks like AMD won't be making anymore AM2 chips after January. Seems fairly straightforward to me.


RE: Confusion?
By achintya on 12/2/2008 3:31:30 PM , Rating: 2
err, AMD is *launching* new AM2 processors in January. This does NOT mean that it stops *manufacturing* them after January when it launches new AM3 processors.

For a buyer, 14 new chips along with the older offerings make for a pretty confusing scenario, especially if you are going in for an AM3 processor on an AM2+ board(ie if AM3 is backwards compatible after all).


RE: Confusion?
By dragonbif on 12/2/2008 2:40:45 PM , Rating: 5
Phenom II X4 910 2.6GHz with 8MB total cache

Id say the 9 has to do the total cache and the 1 would be its place in the speed.
9 = 8MB
8 = 6MB
7 = 7.5MB (x3)

All you have to do is keep an eye on the socket when you go to buy (AM2+ or AM3).

What I want to know is when are the new chipsets coming out!!!


RE: Confusion?
By ThePooBurner on 12/2/2008 3:21:26 PM , Rating: 4
By george, i think he's right. It even follows with the 805 being below the 810. It's almost exactly like it's Radeon naming scheme.


RE: Confusion?
By Rodney McNaggerton on 12/2/2008 5:33:33 PM , Rating: 2
You Get a +1 for "By George"


RE: Confusion?
By drank12quartsstrohsbeer on 12/3/2008 11:29:20 AM , Rating: 2
And you get a +1 for Boy George


AM3
By Nakecat on 12/2/2008 1:05:38 PM , Rating: 2
If I remember right, I think AM3 supports DDR3?

But don't see it that anyway in this article.

If it does, what's the spec, does anyone know?




RE: AM3
By Natfly on 12/2/2008 1:23:16 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, the AM3 processors will support both DDR2 1066 and supposedly up to DDR3 1333.


RE: AM3
By AlexWade on 12/2/2008 4:04:18 PM , Rating: 2
So what real-world advantage would DDR3 have over DDR2? I am going to be upgrading my computer and am trying to decide to wait for Phenom II AM3, go with Phenom II AM2, or go ahead with Core 2.


RE: AM3
By xti on 12/2/2008 5:59:35 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
what real-world advantage would DDR3 have over DDR2


they make me and you spend money like it was crack.


RE: AM3
By NullSubroutine on 12/2/2008 8:33:03 PM , Rating: 2
DDR3 is a hell of alot more expensive, it may give you 0-5% performance boost. Bang/buck DDR2 is better.


RE: AM3
By eye smite on 12/2/2008 3:26:09 PM , Rating: 2
am3 is for ddr3 and if amd is holding to their last statement am3 cpus will be backwards compatible with am2 boards so you won't have to build a whole new rig right off the bat to use an am3 cpu


Odd release schedule
By DXRick on 12/2/2008 1:36:03 PM , Rating: 3
Does anyone else find it odd that the fastest procs are being released first for the AM2+, then slower ones with less cache are being released for AM3, and finally the AM3 will get the faster ones?

That sure doesn't seem like a good way to intro the AM3 platform!




RE: Odd release schedule
By masteryoda34 on 12/2/2008 1:56:22 PM , Rating: 2
That is odd. I bet that their high-end AM3 chipsets aren't going to be ready until later. I think the first AM3 chipset released is going to be the mid-range one with integrated GFX. Therefore, it doesnt make sense to release their high end processors without their high end chipsets.


RE: Odd release schedule
By dragonbif on 12/2/2008 2:35:59 PM , Rating: 2
Phenom II X4 940 at 3GHz, 8MB total cache using the AM2+ socket
Phenom II X4 920 at 2.8GHz with 8MB of total cache on the AM2+ socket

Have had no change other then going from 65nm to 45nm. The AM3's are the ones that are new new. So that being as it is the current AM2+ is what I think 2.8Ghz (9950) so they are now going to 3.0 to finish off the AM2+ line.


RE: Odd release schedule
By gnesterenko on 12/2/2008 5:17:23 PM , Rating: 2
You got it mixed up buddy. Phenom IIs are based off Deneb core structure, unlike the current X4 offerings which are based off Agena. Phenom IIs are faster clock per clock then the current Phenoms and are rumored to be spectacular overclockers. Current Phenoms can be OCed to maybe 3.2-3.4 on air cooling. Phenom IIs are reported to hit 4GHz easy. DD3 support. Various other architectural changes that I do not understand fully. In any case, completely different from the current line up.

I just hope they continue to be priced aggressively like the Phenoms. Personally, I'm waiting for Phenom FX. Hopefully they'll optimize the heck out of it so that AMD can again have a decent gaming CPU worth paying $500+ for.

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X2's so late?
By Shig on 12/2/2008 2:32:22 PM , Rating: 2
Bringing out the dual core CPU's 6 months after the quad cores, I wonder what AMD whats us to buy first?!




RE: X2's so late?
By GlassHouse69 on 12/2/2008 7:01:43 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, that is peculiar.

I think the reasoning is that the x3's are x4's with one core disabled ... (and sick level of cache!)

but, the x2's are different chips with just two fully loaded cores. i bet the x2's based on phenom arch. will be really nice overclockers as well as cheapies


RE: X2's so late?
By Sulphademus on 12/4/2008 3:20:32 PM , Rating: 2
Probably trying to hit the higher end first while the 45nm process is still more expensive and fault prone but the sales margin covers the difference. Once the yeilds get higher and the cost per chip starts shrinking, it will be possible to produce lower end chips and still make some profit.


Where are the benchies...?
By 1078feba on 12/3/2008 1:16:00 PM , Rating: 2
Come on AMD, we're a month & a bit out from launch!

WHERE ARE THE SEMI-LEAKED BENCHIES!?!?




RE: Where are the benchies...?
It's all well and good...
By phaxmohdem on 12/2/2008 4:46:28 PM , Rating: 2
But I need some price info as well!

I've been waiting patiently for over a year to upgrade my rig to a quad 3.0ghz chip. If ASUS gives me a proper BIOS update for my current AM2 board, I might have to pull the trigger on it.

I just hope they don't decide to tack on an "FX Extreme OC GTX" moniker on it and charge a kilo-dollar.




RE: It's all well and good...
By phaxmohdem on 12/2/2008 8:06:27 PM , Rating: 2
Hate replying to my own thread, but I found this link involving price speculation.

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=357110

Seems initial rumors are 940 = ~$340 920 = ~$300


Cancels my newegg order...
By DEredita on 12/2/2008 9:23:11 PM , Rating: 2
Well, I put my new computer plans on hold to January. I definitely will be looking into that new Phenom II X4 940 processor. Hopefully, it will be below $250. I'll grab that, the OCZ 16GB DDR2-800 ram kit, good mobo, and a 1GB ATI HD 4870 videocard. Will aim to completely built this monster system under $1200.




RE: Cancels my newegg order...
By wordsworm on 12/4/2008 7:45:54 AM , Rating: 2
What motherboard do you plan on using that allows for 16GB of RAM? True I haven't looked at them for about 6 months, but back then the highest end boards were only good for 8GB. I'll go searching shortly, but was curious what you had in mind for a rig under $1200.


Hmmm
By Proteusza on 12/2/2008 12:51:36 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
The Phenom II X4 900 and 905 CPUs will have 2MB of L3 cache.


I think you mean: The Phenom II X4 900 and 905 CPUs will have 2MB of L 2 cache.

They have 6MB of L3 cache if I remember correctly.




good news
By 4wardtristan on 12/2/2008 4:51:49 PM , Rating: 2
good to see amd coming back into the cpu-side of things! cant wait to see how these chips perform, my next upgrade may just have to be amd-based!




I gotta say...
By mpjesse on 12/2/2008 9:23:37 PM , Rating: 2
This looks like a rock solid CPU line up. Bringing back the Athlon name was wise as well. I think AMD has finally figured out that rather than trying to shake things up in terms of line ups, it will match intel's offering. The Athlon X processors seemed to be well positioned to compete w/ intel's pentium offerings... furthermore they should be great processors for budget and low end OEM systems. So long as AMD offers a good price/performance ratio I think they may gain back lost market share.

This could a major turning point for chimpzilla.




Oh well...
By JMS3072 on 12/4/2008 10:22:37 AM , Rating: 2
I was going to wait for AM3 to do my build anyway, but only for the cheaper technologies available in the AM2+ platform- now, it looks like I want an AM3 system BAD.




digital clocking..
By RoberTx on 12/9/2008 12:34:24 PM , Rating: 2
One and zero, true and false, yes and no, on and of, high and low, .... so far everything is cool...then the processor gets a "Huh?", followed by the eternal wait state. I eagerly await the day when a digital processor can deal with a "Huh?".




AMD's Thirteen
By kontorotsui on 12/2/08, Rating: 0
Makes Sense
By ablecluster on 12/3/08, Rating: 0
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