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Hardware AMD Prices "Barcelona"
Anh Tuan Huynh (Blog) - September 4, 2007 5:06 PM
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AMD prices its quad-core Opteron starting at $206

AMD sent out pricing information for its upcoming quad-core Opteron 2300 and 8300 series processors to its partners and distributors. The company plans to launch nine new quad-core processors later this month with clock speeds ranging from 1.7 GHz to 2.0 GHz.

Only two thermal bins are launching with the long-awaited Barcelona – standard and HE bins. Standard bin processors have 95-Watt TDPs while the HE bin processors have lower 68-Watt TDPs. AMD’s high end SE bin, which typically has a 120-Watt TDP, will not join the launch lineup.

AMD’s two-way capable quad-core Opteron 2300 series launch with five new models – 2350, 2347, 2347 HE, 2346 HE and 2344 HE. Pricing for the two-way capable models start at around $206 and go up as high as $372. Quad-core Opteron 2300 HE models command an approximate $60 premium over standard models, clock for clock.

AMD Opteron 2300 Series

Model
 Core
Frequency 		TDP
Launch
Price

2350
2.0 GHz 95W$372

23471.9 GHz 95W$312
2347 HE
1.9 GHz 68W$372
2346 HE
1.8 GHz 68W$251
2344 HE
1.7 GHz
68W
$206


On the multi-way side of things, AMD has four quad-core Opteron 8300 models ready for launch – the 8350, 8347, 8347 HE and 8346 HE. The multi-way models have a $688 cost-of-entry and top out at around $1,000. Unlike the Opteron 2300 series, the 8300 series HE models command an approximate $110 price premium.

AMD Opteron 8300 Series

Model
 Core
Frequency 		TDP
Launch
Price

8350
2.0 GHz 95W$1,004

83471.9 GHz 95W$774
8347 HE
1.9 GHz 68W$861
8346 HE
1.8 GHz 68W$688

Expect AMD to launch its new Barcelona quad-core Opteron 8300 and 2300 processors later this month for server and workstation markets. Desktop users will have to wait until Q4’07 for AMD’s Phenom to experience quad-core.

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Odd Order
By ziggo on 9/4/2007 5:50:02 PM , Rating: 4
Price before performance?

I am really anxious to know the numbers for these processors. I know the inq posted some crazy story, but I won't believe anything till I see facts from a reputable news source.




RE: Odd Order
By davegraham (blog) on 9/4/2007 5:52:18 PM , Rating: 2
just a note: these prices are preliminary until product launch confirms otherwise.

cheers,

dave


RE: Odd Order
By JoKeRr on 9/4/2007 6:00:30 PM , Rating: 2
So for now, nothing >2Ghz. Didn't someone say Barcelona won't be competitive with Clovertown till the frequency is >2.4ghz??


RE: Odd Order
By davegraham (blog) on 9/4/2007 6:08:18 PM , Rating: 3
there have been several TERRIBLE insinuations that Barcelona doesn't perform well, all of which have been somewhat quiet as to their configuration. there are some platform issues that reside OUTSIDE of AMD's control that can (and do) affect performance. just be patient.

cheers,

Dave


RE: Odd Order
By TomZ on 9/4/2007 7:27:46 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
just be patient

I think that AMD should trademark that and use it for their new marketing slogan. :o)


RE: Odd Order
By Regs on 9/4/2007 10:07:56 PM , Rating: 2
I wish I could rate you a six for that one.


RE: Odd Order
By vignyan on 9/5/07, Rating: 0
RE: Odd Order
By Locutus465 on 9/4/2007 11:20:03 PM , Rating: 2
You have to give AMD this much, they're trying to get their act together (and are making tangible progress) much more quickly than Intel did with the P4... Then again, the relitive size of ego seems to more or less match the relitive size of the company :P


RE: Odd Order
By cassandra on 9/5/2007 3:52:28 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
You have to give AMD this much, they're trying to get their act together (and are making tangible progress) much more quickly than Intel did with the P4...


It is really difficult to tell. I am convinced that Intel's big problem was that had, say, 10 year's of experience of putting up the clock speed and managing to market that successfully in the face of industry experts saying that more clock speed wasn't the answer. Then, when the real Cr**burst hit the fan, Intel was still saying 'that's what they always say, just crank the clock speed and cut the prices and they'll come round'. And maybe even, 'How do we convince punters that a 1.5GHz part is faster than a 3GHz part....It'll never sell.'

In this interpretation, it is only Pentium M that made Intel come to their senses, so Intel only started to react from 1 yr - 18 months into ther life of the P-M as that was the time from which Intel saw P-M was a success and thus that it was right to change approach.

If this is right, they actually made a very major architecture change (not just processing, not just a bigger cache, not just a few extra instructions and very much more of a change than just adding, say, HT) pretty rapidly.

I believe (and this is guesswork) that up until relatively recently, AMD didn't believe that Intel wouldn't have a substantially improved underlying architecture (the same issue again!) and they thought their four cores would be at a similar IpC or better compared to Intel and would therefore be at an advantage and from this they could dictate pricing. For some time now, I have not expected AMD, at introduction, to have better IpC on four cores compared to four-core competition and therefore be facing an uphill struggle. OTOH that means that they will keep down prices to compete.

I'm expecting bulldozer and derivatives to improve the IpC ratings substantially, but that ain't close. Certainly, it hard to say (curently) that with bulldozer AMD reacted much faster than Intel did Conroe and friends.

(Note that I'd like to be wrong and barca be a pleasant surprise in IpC and bulldozer be out ahead of schedule, but time will tell.)


RE: Odd Order
By CyberHawk on 9/5/2007 1:38:09 AM , Rating: 2
:D this was a good one.

I just hope that these chips will perform quite well.

It was a long time, since I hardly waited for the new hardware... now, i can't wait for monday next week :)


RE: Odd Order
By Proteusza on 9/5/2007 4:21:41 AM , Rating: 3
Why has AMD been so quiet with its own configurations and tests?

Surely, if those insinuations were based on configurations not favourable to AMD, then AMD would want to show tests using platforms favourable to AMD?

Yet we have seen nothing.

AMD = Great chips, nonexistent customer relations.


RE: Odd Order
By sdsdv10 on 9/4/2007 6:42:43 PM , Rating: 5
That was Anandtech.com editor Gary Key in this thread based on his experience with pre-production and now production based Barcelona samples.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid...


RE: Odd Order
By OddTSi on 9/4/2007 6:29:08 PM , Rating: 2
The prices should give you a hint at their performance. ;)


RE: Odd Order
By Amiga500 on 9/5/2007 4:11:57 AM , Rating: 2
Yeap, my thinking too.

Compare with Xeon prices here:

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8451

So from that, they expect the 2.0GHz K10 to go up against the 2.50 GHz Penryn (or thereabouts).

Meanwhile the 1.7GHz K10 vs. the 2 GHz Penryn.

Assumming price equals broadly equivalent performance, work that out and your talking a clock-for-clock difference of around 20%.


RE: Odd Order
By Amiga500 on 9/5/2007 4:12:52 AM , Rating: 2
i usse an speelchekor!

D'OH!!!