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AMD Radeon HD 3450

AMD Radeon HD 3470

AMD Radeon HD 3650
AMD updates mainstream and low-end product lines with cards under $100

When it comes to the graphics industry, we tend to focus on the high-end products more so than the mainstream and low-end -- we like to associate graphics with powerful GPUs that are capable of rendering the latest in Crysis-like eye-candy.

With the recent launch of such high-end cards from AMD as the Radeon HD 3870 X2 and NVIDIA's upcoming GeForce 9600GT, we have forgotten about the lower-priced cards from each company.

It just so happens that AMD launched some of these more affordable products which pack features found in the latest higher-end cards. The AMD Radeon HD 3400 and HD 3600 series are the newest products in AMD's graphics.

The Radeon HD 3400 series includes two models - the HD 3450 and the HD 3470. The Radeon HD 3450 is based on the RV620 LE GPU while the Radeon HD 3470 comes with the RV620 Pro chip; both of which are manufactured using the TSMC 55nm process, feature a core clock speed of 800 MHz and 40 stream processors.

The main difference between the two is that the HD 3450 will feature 256MB of DDR2 500MHz memory while the HD 3470 will feature 256MB of the faster 950MHz GDDR3 memory both flavors routing data to the GPU by way of a 64-bit memory interface.

The Radeon HD 3600 is the new mainstream series with the Radeon HD 3650 being the sole model in the series. The card features the RV635 Pro GPU with 120 stream processing units but is offered in two different versions.

The first variation of the Radeon HD 3650 will feature 256MB of 800 MHz GDDR3 memory while the second variation will feature 3 tiers of 500MHz DDR2 memory at 256MB, 512MB, and 1GB all routing data to the GPU by way of a 128-bit memory interface. Each model will feature a 725 MHz core clock speed but will not support Hybrid Crossfire capabilities.

Other key features of both the Radeon HD 3400 and HD 3600 series’ include DirectX 10.1, Shader Model 4.1, and PCI Express 2.0 support. Additionally, each series will feature ATI CrossFireX Multi-GPU technology that will allow two graphics cards to work in tandem to split up the work.

Pricing for the Radeon HD 3400 series has been stated within the $49-65 range while the Radeon HD 3600 series ranges in price from $79-99 depending on the amount of memory on the card.



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$99 for the 1GB 3650?
By ninjit on 1/23/2008 9:38:34 PM , Rating: 2
Is that right?

Depending on the performance of the card, that sounds like it will be a great deal.




RE: $99 for the 1GB 3650?
By inighthawki on 1/23/2008 10:17:53 PM , Rating: 2
1GB is a lot of memory indeed, depending on the performance of the card itself, that could be a good idea or a totally worthless one.


RE: $99 for the 1GB 3650?
By vortex222 on 1/24/2008 4:18:15 AM , Rating: 2
that card will have enough fillrate to use resolutions and AA modes thaty MIGHT use 1/8th of that 1gb.. its marketing. the size of the ram really meens nothing anymore until you get into the top end cards.

its the speed of the ram and gpu that count.


RE: $99 for the 1GB 3650?
By psychobriggsy on 1/24/2008 7:33:48 AM , Rating: 4
With Vista moving things onto the graphics card, if you have multiple monitors but don't game, the large amount of graphics memory will come in handy for the double-buffered framebuffers and GUI textures.

But yes, totally worthless for gaming.


RE: $99 for the 1GB 3650?
By murphyslabrat on 1/24/2008 1:56:07 PM , Rating: 2
Going by the AMD Diagram found at http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3205&p=2 the 1GB models are using memory running at 1Ghz (effective), meaning that they will be much like the current {GeForce,Radeon} {6,7,8,x6,x1,x2}600 512MB versions, that use super-slow RAM to appeal to know-nothings.


Unnecessary Cooling Fans
By EricMartello on 1/24/2008 3:26:13 AM , Rating: 2
Why are they putting fans on these cheapo cards? If they're running so hot that a passive cooler won't be enough, then they're horribly inefficient. I wouldn't want any extra fans in my system unless they are required - and I wouldn't buy a cheapo card like this if it didn't have passive cooling.




RE: Unnecessary Cooling Fans
By Clauzii on 1/24/2008 8:06:14 AM , Rating: 2
This is where "DIY" heatsinks come in to game, I think. Some people won't (hopefully) not be annoyed by fans, others want to fit a silent solution afterwards.

But yes, You're right, the low-end could probably do with passive cooling. I think they put those fans on, because it's probably cheaper than a bigger piece of metal.


RE: Unnecessary Cooling Fans
By mmntech on 1/24/2008 9:40:47 AM , Rating: 4
Remember that these are just AMD/ATI reference models in the pictures. The board makers themselves will ultimately decide what cooling solutions they want to use. There will most likely be passive cooled models in the near future.


RE: Unnecessary Cooling Fans
By EricMartello on 1/28/2008 4:28:59 AM , Rating: 2
Clauzii is probably right about them sticking fans on because it's cheaper than more metal for a bigger heatsink...but one thing I know is that small fans like have a nasty habit of crapping out in 3-6 months.

Right now Gigabyte seems to be the only decent manufacturer who makes fanless budget video cards in the $100 price range, with their Silent Pipe line. I've used their 2600HD in several systems I built for customers and it works great.

Of course, you can always buy a fanless cooler and put it on yourself, but that just drives up the cost and adds an extra step to the system build.


Who has these?
By VoodooChicken on 1/24/2008 9:50:31 AM , Rating: 2
I've been looking at all the retailer sites I know to see who actually carries these cards yet, but haven't found any being sold.




RE: Who has these?
By Martimus on 1/24/2008 10:16:52 AM , Rating: 2
I think they have been pushed back until Monday to fix some driver issues.


RE: Who has these?
By Martimus on 1/24/2008 12:11:04 PM , Rating: 2
Here is a link explaining what happened:
http://www.driverheaven.net/#news153389


CrossfireX
By dubldwn on 1/23/2008 6:58:52 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
CrossFireX Multi-GPU technology that will allow two graphics cards to work in tandem

4-way, too, right?




RE: CrossfireX
By dragonbif on 1/23/2008 11:18:29 PM , Rating: 2
Hmmmm I only see one Xfire connector on them so I don't think its 4, you need 2 connectors on the card to do 4. HOWEVER I just went to HIS to look at their cards of the 3650 has 2
http://www.hisdigital.com/html/product_ov.php?id=3...
http://www.hisdigital.com/html/product_ov.php?id=3...
ALSO there are 4 flavors of the 3650 on HIS and 1 I can tell you for sure does not have any Xfire at all
http://www.hisdigital.com/html/product_ov.php?id=3...
So from what I can tell it depends on what card you buy so make sure you look closely at the picks to know for sure.


Output
By AlphaVirus on 1/24/2008 11:05:38 AM , Rating: 2
Does anyone know if these will have HDMI output instead of the DVI+DVI?




RE: Output
By murphyslabrat on 1/24/2008 3:24:22 PM , Rating: 2
Yes to both options you listed. Like the HD 2600/2400 series, they have two DVI ports, but one can be turned into a fully-functional (sound and video) HDMI port via the included adapter.


Good performance
By electriple9 on 1/24/2008 12:44:55 PM , Rating: 2
Should these card perform better then older ati hd2600 or less.
Thanks




RE: Good performance
By 306maxi on 1/27/2008 3:17:41 PM , Rating: 2
Well performance doesn't generally go backwards. Of course it could but I wouldn't expect it to.


Power consumption
By ajfink on 1/23/2008 7:16:52 PM , Rating: 2
I'd like to see some power consumption tests on the 3450. Might put one in my parents' PC to smooth out media playing via UVD.




RE: Power consumption
By Warren21 on 1/23/2008 10:34:34 PM , Rating: 1
As long as they have a PCIe x16 slot, power consumption doesn't really matter, the slot must be able to pump out ~75W (PCIe 1.0/1.1).


wow
By shraz on 1/23/2008 7:00:06 PM , Rating: 2
that's a very good price for people who don't play much demanding games. Good price to hook up to a HDTV.




Eww
By Sungpooz on 1/25/2008 3:52:50 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The main difference between the two is that the HD 3450 will feature 256MB of DDR2 500MHz memory while the HD 3470 will feature 256MB of the faster 950MHz GDDR3 memory both flavors routing data to the GPU by way of a [b]64-bit memory interface.[/b]


If only it were 128 at the same price...




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