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Hardware AMD June 2006 Product Roadmap
Anh Tuan Huynh (Blog) - July 6, 2006 2:52 PM
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AMD July 2006 roadmap

AMD's old 2006 roadmap
New Athlon 64 FX, X2 and Semprons

DailyTech has come across AMD’s short-term processor roadmap for Athlon and Sempron processors. The roadmap only goes as far as Q3’07 but does reveal a few upcoming products. AMD’s Athlon 64 FX lineup will get a few speed bumps within the next few months. The first speed bump will come next quarter in the form of the Athlon 64 FX-64. This part will be a Socket AM2 part and have a 125-watt TDP. It will presumably have a 3 GHz clock speed, as AMD likes to bump the clock speed of the Athlon 64 FX lineup in 200 MHz increments. The Athlon 64 FX-64 will be AMD’s desktop flagship processor until Q3’07 when the Athlon 64 FX-66 arrives. This part will have a 125-watt TDP as well and presumably be clocked at 3.2 GHz unless AMD has some other trick. It will be based on the 90nm Windsor core and not the upcoming 65nm Brisbane core.

Slotted right below the Athlon 64 FX lineup will be a couple new Athlon 64 X2 processors -- many of the old 2x1MB L2 cache processors have been removed. On the upper end of the Athlon 64 X2 lineup is the upcoming Athlon 64 X2 5200+. It’s expected to arrive this quarter and replace the Athlon 64 X2 5000+ as AMD’s second fastest processor clocked at 2.6 GHz with 2x1MB of L2 cache. Athlon 64 X2 5200+ processors will only be available in 65-watt energy efficient models. The Athlon 64 X2 5000+ will be positioned as a mainstream part with the arrival of the Athlon 64 X2 5200+. The first quarter of 2007 will bring the first speed bump to AMD’s Socket AM2 produce lineup. This will come in the form of the 2.8 GHz Athlon 64 X2 5400+ and 5600+ models. The difference between the 5400+ and 5600+ models will be cache sizes, with the 5400+ coming with 2x512KB while the 5600+ has 2x1MB of L2 cache. Both models will have a TDP of 89-watts.  This is slightly unusual as AMD has been aggressively EOL'ing the 2x1MB parts.

Brisbane Athlon 64 X2 processors will slowly arrive in 2007 starting with the lower end models. The Athlon 64 X2 3800+, 4200+ and 4600+ will be the first Athlon 64 X2 products to be switched over to AMD’s 65nm Fab process in Q1’07. Athlon 64 X2 5000+ and 5200+ models will switch over to the 65nm processor in Q2’07 followed by 5400+ in Q3’07. All Brisbane based products will have a 65-watt TDP.

The AMD Sempron roadmap is pretty straightforward with the exception of a new target segment and 65nm Sempron. AMD is expected to target a new "Ultra Value" product segment with the revival of the Sempron 2800+ sometime this quarter. It’s unsure where the Ultra Value product segment sits price-wise but expect Ultra Value systems based on Sempron processors to fall south of the $500.

Lastly AMD is expected to move Sempron processors over to a 65nm Fab process around Q2’07. Sempron 4000+, 3800+, 3600+, 3500+ and 3400+ models will move over to AMD’s 65nm process first. Unlike the Athlon 64 X2 65nm move, AMD will have some overlap with 90nm and 65nm Sempron production. A new Sempron 4200+ is expected to launch in Q3’07 too.

AMD's previous roadmap is still available on DailyTech.

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uhm
By lamplamp on 7/6/2006 3:16:15 PM , Rating: 2
wheres K8L?




RE: uhm
By Knish on 7/6/2006 3:20:01 PM , Rating: 2
Dailytech keeps saying Q407 or 2008, and the rest of the world keeps saying the Brisbane is K8L. Considering K8L is going to use a new socket, I find it hard to beleive AMD would release AM3 in December after *just* releasing AM2.


RE: uhm
By Regs on 7/6/2006 3:42:16 PM , Rating: 2
AM2 has short term goals written all over it.


RE: uhm
By Tsuwamono on 7/6/2006 3:49:42 PM , Rating: 2
AM2 mobos work with AM3 processors though, so its not really short term.. its more like going from a A64 3000+ to a A64 3200+ on the same mobo.. its like a performance jump with chips. no difference


RE: uhm
By Regs on 7/6/2006 5:20:05 PM , Rating: 4
The jump to DDR2 support was strictly a short term goal. For market values and distinction. AM3 is the long term goal.


RE: uhm
By Griswold on 7/6/2006 3:45:46 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Considering K8L is going to use a new socket


That looks more and more like a false assumption if you consider what Henri Richard said in a digitimes interview and the last news bit about AM3.


RE: uhm
By Googer on 7/11/2006 2:50:26 AM , Rating: 2
The Interview with Henri Richard is four parts, I could only find part two.

http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/MailHome.asp?dat...


RE: uhm
By saratoga on 7/6/2006 3:55:00 PM , Rating: 4
Yeah theres no way the K8L is going to be coming out this winter. AMD will have enough trouble getting their 65nm production up and running smoothly, no way they'll want to launch a brand new core concurrently. They'll do their usual trick of launchng an older generation part to test out production, and then intro the new core when everything is working.

My guess is Summer/Fall 07 at the earliest.


RE: uhm
By JackPack on 7/6/2006 7:05:54 PM , Rating: 3
Brisbane is not K8L. Rev. G is just a dumb shrink.

It's already been confirmed by AMD in the Impress Watch interview with Dirk Meyer.

But there's always uninformed people like Knish running around here.


RE: uhm
By Viditor on 7/7/2006 4:04:54 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
It's already been confirmed by AMD in the Impress Watch interview with Dirk Meyer

Actually, it hasn't...if you read the original Japanese, it says that the Next Generation Architecture will be in 2008...but that is quite probably K10 (K8L is a modification of current architecture, not new architecture).


RE: uhm
By JackPack on 7/7/2006 4:30:05 AM , Rating: 2
I've read the original Japanese.

Rev. G = virtually no change

So K8L is not "next gen"? If so, what was it they revealed in May when they called it their Next Generation Processor Technology?


RE: uhm
By Viditor on 7/7/2006 5:23:47 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
So K8L is not "next gen"? If so, what was it they revealed in May when they called it their Next Generation Processor Technology?

My bad...I hadn't noticed that AMD has changed the language about K8L. A few months ago, Dirk Meyer was saying that they have 2 upcoming releases...the first was to be a rebuild of current technology (K8L), the second was a new architecture from the ground up (K10).
If you look at the June PR, the timeling is still fairly evident.

From the June 1st release...
"AMD’s next-generation architecture for servers, workstations and desktops is planned to debut in mid-2007, and is expected to extend AMD’s leadership in platform performance-per-watt as well as its leadership in critical enterprise application performance. Products will include a quad-core design for servers, workstations and high-end desktops, and a dual-core design intended for mainstream desktop markets. These next generation processors will be built using AMD’s advanced 65nm Silicon-on-Insulator process, and include a broad range of functionality and micro-architectural improvements, including a unique new ability to dynamically alter the frequency of each core on the chip to match application workloads and thereby reduce overall power consumption. As a result, AMD expects to increase the performance-per-watt of today’s AMD Opteron™ processor-powered servers by approximately 60 percent through 2007, and by approximately 150 percent through 2008"
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoo...

The timeline appears to be
1. Servers/Workstation - 1st K8L Quad core at mid-year 2007
2. Desktop - K8L Dual and Quad core by mid-year 2007
3. Server K10? Quad Core - 2008 (150% improvement on perf/watt)

It's very hard to understand how AMD has released a PR in June on the K8L, but none of the "leaked" roadmaps seem to coincide with what AMD is saying...
Is AMD lying? Are the "leaked" roadmaps wrong? One of those must seem to be true...


RE: uhm
By coldpower27 on 7/8/2006 1:27:21 AM , Rating: 2
We will have to see, this looks to be the roadmap that I thought would happen the desktop is not going to utilize K8L technology till 2008 from the looks of things, with a launch of K8L in Servers in Mid 2007. Remember K8 itself debuted on Servers much earlier then it did on the desktop.

The way they worded it is that the architecture will be released in Mid 2007, but with that wording doesn't say that it will be in all 3 sectors at once. It could easily jsut be limited to Servers at first, then scaled down to Desktop later.


RE: uhm
By Viditor on 7/8/2006 8:22:52 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The way they worded it is that the architecture will be released in Mid 2007, but with that wording doesn't say that it will be in all 3 sectors at once

I think they were more specific than that...

"AMD’s next-generation architecture for servers, workstations and desktops is planned to debut in mid-2007"

But,

"AMD’s new mobile design is planned for the second half of 2007"


RE: uhm
By coldpower27 on 7/8/2006 2:25:06 PM , Rating: 2
"AMD’s next-generation architecture for servers, workstations and desktops is planned to debut in mid-2007"

Yes that statement is exactly what I mean, obviously AMD will have 1 Unified architecture for both desktops and servers,, but all that says is that it will be debuing in Mid 2007, but not in both intially necessarily..



RE: uhm
By Viditor on 7/9/2006 1:09:26 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
obviously AMD will have 1 Unified architecture for both desktops and servers,, but all that says is that it will be debuing in Mid 2007, but not in both intially necessarily..

I understand your point, and there's really no way for us to know either way...
It just seems to me that by splitting up the mobile sector release in H2 2007 from the servers, workstations and desktops, it appears that the first 3 platforms will be released mid 2007.

Either way, it doesn't seem to coincide with the "roadmaps" we've been seeing.


RE: uhm
By Viditor on 7/7/2006 4:02:44 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
AMD will have enough trouble getting their 65nm production up and running smoothly

I doubt that...they've been producing ES parts on 65nm since last October, and they have already told shareholders that they will be launching 65nm at fully mature yields.


RE: uhm
By Phynaz on 7/6/2006 3:38:26 PM , Rating: 2
A year away.


RE: uhm
By NextGenGamer2005 on 7/6/2006 4:06:16 PM , Rating: 3
I think most of you are confused: K8L, at least in 2007, is NOT for desktops. Sorry, but it just isn't. K8L will make its appearence as the second-generation, 65-nm, quad-core Socket F Opteron in the 2H 2007 (the first-gen 65-nm quad-core is supposed to be out in Q1 2007). Socket AM2 will not see any quad-core or any K8L-derived processors in 2007. That's why the AMD prez recently said desktops would be receiving a new architecutre in 2008; he is referring to the same K8L that will be in used in the Opteron lineup in 2007.

One more thing: I highly doubt AMD would release a 3.20GHz Athlon 64 FX-66 on the current 90-nm process. This has got to be a 65-nm product. And because of that, I have a hard time believing any of the other releases/details as well.