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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 @ AnandTech
DailyTech's roundup of hardware reviews from around the web for Monday

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280
@ AnandTech
@ TweakTown
@ InsideHW
@ Guru3D
@ Elite Bastards
@ Hardware Secrets
@ Hot Hardware
@ Chile Hardware
@ Driver Heaven
@ Hardware Canucks
@ Overclockers Club
@ MADBOXPC
@ The Tech Report
@ t-break
@ Benchmark Reviews
@ Technic3D
@ Legit Reviews

Notebooks
ASUS Eee PC 901 20G Linux Edition @ Trusted Reviews

Processors
Low Budget 45nm - Intel E7200 Overclocking Report @ Madshrimps

Storage
QNAP TS-409 Pro Turbo NAS @ Virtual-Hideout

Video
Gainward BLISS 9800 GX2 Dual-GPU Version @ MVKTech

Displays
Acer AL2016WB Widescreen 20-inch Widescreen LCD Monitor @ ThinkComputers.org

Networking
CradlePoint CTR500 3G Cellular Travel Router @ PC Perspective

Cooling
Gelid GC1 Thermal Compound @ OCC
Thermaltake DuOrb CPU Cooler @ TweakTown

Power Supplies
Coolermaster Silent Pro M500, M600 and M700 Power Supply @ Rbmods

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Yawn
By CatfishKhan on 6/16/2008 11:47:34 AM , Rating: 2
When is HD 4000 coming out again? I'll take the smaller manufacturing process and less heat -- my computer room gets hot enough already being on the third floor. From what I've read, HD 4000 will be close in performance, but much cheaper and less power hungry.




RE: Yawn
By freaqie on 6/16/2008 11:57:48 AM , Rating: 2
in about a week.
there is some unclartity due to amd shifting the date constantly.
however I am waiting for the 4870x2
( if that does not take too long)


RE: Yawn
By Goty on 6/16/2008 12:06:18 PM , Rating: 2
That's the question I'm asking, too. Some preliminary benchmarking over at XS shows the HD4850 being able to compete with the 9800GTX, so the 4870 should be a decent performer as well.


RE: Yawn
By SavagePotato on 6/16/2008 12:56:38 PM , Rating: 2
If that is the case it means ati will be retaking the performance lead with the 4870x2, but the successor to gtx280 was rumored to be already taped out since nvidia knew it was a turkey that needs a die shrink.


RE: Yawn
By AnnihilatorX on 6/16/2008 1:22:27 PM , Rating: 2
People should wait at least few weeks before buying, for that they will get the die shrinked revisions. That should mean fewer bugs and a cooler GPU.


RE: Yawn
By Parhel on 6/16/2008 1:38:54 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
People should wait at least few weeks before buying, for that they will get the die shrinked revisions.


All of the rumors I've heard indicate that the die shrinked parts will not be available for about four months.


RE: Yawn
By BruceLeet on 6/16/2008 1:15:02 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah I don't get it, Nvidia is so costly and for what, 20 more frames per second, or 500 more numbers in a benchmarking softwares (Im being generous with the numbers I know)

I am suprised AMD isn't dominating the graphics market based solely on their price:performance. Can people really tell the difference between 20fps? I know I cant, they only see the difference on paper or numbers, really.

I can say with confidence my next build/upgrade will probably be in favor of AMD based on price alone. They are going GDDR5 isn't that where high resolutions profit? In memory speed? and I only use a 22"


RE: Yawn
By Rogie on 6/16/2008 5:45:12 PM , Rating: 2
I can tell the difference between 10fps and 30fps, which is a 20fps difference.


RE: Yawn
By BruceLeet on 6/16/2008 11:36:06 PM , Rating: 2
Thats if your comparing an AGP card to a PCIe, yeah.

Im talking about performance differences in a 3870 to a 9800GTX. Can you see where I'm at?


oh YEAH
By FaceMaster on 6/16/2008 11:17:03 AM , Rating: 3
Proper, next gen graphics cards.

By far the best news on this site.




RE: oh YEAH
By jmke on 6/16/2008 11:32:31 AM , Rating: 2
Anandtech shows 2x8800GT keeping up with GTX 280 with ease. If you realize that you can get 2x8800GT for less than €300 and the GTX 280 costs more than DOUBLE. I wouldn't call it "the best deal ever" just yet;)

8800 GT 512Mb €124/piece
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Grafikkarten_...


RE: oh YEAH
By BruceLeet on 6/16/2008 12:29:44 PM , Rating: 2
8800 GT 512MB $116.99CAD after MIR

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools...

Uh is it just my connection or is dailytechs server on a 56k connection...? All other websites load as usual...fast.


RE: oh YEAH
By BrownJohn on 6/16/2008 1:36:59 PM , Rating: 2
The link you posted was actualy for a 256mb version of the 8800gt.


RE: oh YEAH
By BruceLeet on 6/16/2008 4:39:55 PM , Rating: 1
Oh sorry I didnt realize, wake n bake early this morning...burnt out when I posted LOL


RE: oh YEAH
By Parhel on 6/16/2008 12:31:34 PM , Rating: 2
Meh . . . It would be a lot more interesting news if it was available today at launch and it didn't have an MSRP of $659. Now I'm thinking that maybe the rumors floating around about nvidia having yield issues were spot on.

I understand that they want the bragging rights for the being the company with the fastest single GPU, but if you can't sell it for under $500, to me it's a moot point. If I were building a system for someone today (assuming availability,) I wouldn't use either one of these cards. Hopefully ATI's launch in a few days will be more exciting and/or motivate nvidia to drop the price.


RE: oh YEAH
By SavagePotato on 6/16/2008 1:07:50 PM , Rating: 2
If they are only pulling 300 chips from a wafer like the anandtech article says that there is a yield problem in itself.

It's just a great big pig that needs a die shrink horribly.


RE: oh YEAH
By 1078feba on 6/17/2008 8:52:25 AM , Rating: 2
Can you imagine the cooling needed in a room with three of these pigs all SLI'd like in the pic above? Not to mention the power draw. Punch the power button on your comp and feel the corner of your house lift up off the slab, you know, the corner where the power meter is located. It starts spinning so fast that it actually begins to generate lift.


Gobble Gobble
By SavagePotato on 6/16/2008 12:53:43 PM , Rating: 5
Sorry to say but this card is a turkey.

A great big power gobbling overcooked turkey, stick a fork in it.

$650 bucks for something that devours over 200 watts of power and can't outperform a 9800gx2?

I sincerely hope it is the worst drivers in history or something.




RE: Gobble Gobble
By GhandiInstinct on 6/16/2008 1:56:38 PM , Rating: 4
Nvidia released the unappealing 9800 followed by the underwhelming GTX200.

It's safe to say we're back to the Geforce days where there's no competition and a company becomes stagnant.

I'm skipping the GT for their 2009 product. And will be a nice performing 9800x2 once it goes under $400.

Thanks.


RE: Gobble Gobble
By benx009 on 6/16/2008 2:04:23 PM , Rating: 3
What I'm dying to ask is why the 9800GX2 is $100 cheaper than this card, when it is obviously much more superior. NVIDIA has really been a big disappointment as of late. I have no doubt that the HD 4870 will eat the GTX 280 alive next week..... with a doable pricetag to boot.


RE: Gobble Gobble
By Goty on 6/16/2008 3:38:31 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know if a single HD4870 will be enough to top the GTX 280, but an X2 should definitely at least give it a run for its money.


RE: Gobble Gobble
By SavagePotato on 6/16/2008 3:55:00 PM , Rating: 2
The speculation online was that the 4870x2 would perform about 1.25x faster than a 9800gx2.

Rumors are rumors mind you.

Often times though in the graphics card world they seem to be 100% correct. They were with the ati 2900's and again with the gtx280 being a big powerbeast turkey.

If that's how it turns out it could be like reliving the 9700pro ati glory days this summer all over again.


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