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The 80GB SKU will soon become the only PS3 available to North American consumers
It's the end of the road for Sony's 60GB PS3

Sony’s 60GB PS3 has come a long way since its introduction nearly a year ago. When the console went on sale in mid-November, it was lambasted for its $599 price tag. The console then suffered a loss in April when its fraternal twin, the 20GB PS3, was killed off by Sony.

Early last month, Sony gave the 60GB PS3 a $100 price cut to help boost sales and introduced a new 80GB SKU to occupy the $599 price point. Sony also threw in a copy of MotorStorm with the 80GB PS3 to keep gamers happy.

The price cut did the trick and sales boomed for the PS3. Sony went from 98,000 units sold in June to 159,000 units sold in July.

It now appear that the end of the road is nigh for the 60GB PS3. Sony reports that it no longer has inventory of 60GB PS3s in its warehouses and the only units left are those on the way to retailers (or those that are already in retailer warehouses and on store shelves).

"We no longer have any inventory in SCEA warehouses. All inventory has been purchased and shipped to retailers," said SCEA communications officer Dave Karraker. "We don't have visibility as to if that is on their store shelves or in their warehouses at this time. However, based on inventory reports from our retailers, there is ample supply still left in the channel."

Once the remaining stocks of 60GB PS3s are depleted, that will leave the $599 80GB PS3 as the sole SKU. What Sony does at that point is still up for debate.

Sony could leave the price tag at $599 and risk stalling the sales gains that it has made in the past two months. On the other hand, many analysts are predicting that the 80GB model will take the price point of the discontinued 60GB model to help drive sales. An 80GB PS3 with a free game for $499 could be quite the bargain for many gamers out there.

While the  80GB PS3 would still be down 40GB and $50 more expensive compared to the Xbox 360 Elite, the included MotorStorm title, WiFi and Blu-ray drive may push the tide back into Sony’s court -- at least in the high-end market. The deal could be even sweeter when you consider that Sony is still running its five free Blu-ray movie promotion through September 30 for the PS3.

We will just have to wait to see which path Sony decides to take with the 80GB PS3. "We won't be making any further announcements regarding our PS3 model hardware strategy in North America until the 60GB model is exhausted and market conditions are evaluated," said a Sony representative.



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Bad Feeling
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 8/30/2007 10:45:18 AM , Rating: 2
I get the feeling that Sony tried to copy Microsoft's successful tiered console system but then decided it was a bad idea for them and dumped SKU's quickly. Less than a year after launch and we went from 2 SKU's, Retired 1, adding another, then retiring that one too. Makes me think whoever made the original 2 SKU decision goofed because neither of the original SKU's are being made <1 year after debut, sounds like a problem.




RE: Bad Feeling
By nerdye on 8/30/2007 10:54:35 AM , Rating: 1
I don't think Sony flawed in originally offering two options of ps3's for different price points at launch, I think they went wrong with being inconsistent in dropping and adding sku's constantly. Microsoft has been consistent with their sku's, and adding the elite to the mix has only benefited their sales, that is what sony should have done.


RE: Bad Feeling
By blurredvision on 8/30/2007 10:57:57 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
I get the feeling that Sony tried to copy Microsoft's successful tiered console system but then decided it was a bad idea for them and dumped SKU's quickly.

I think it was more of a botched decision on when and how to introduce software-based backwards compatibility. I'm guessing Sony thought they could sell a console with "Playstation 3" on the box at any price they wanted, and they quickly figured out this wasn't the case. So they had to scramble to introduce the 80GB SKU without the hardware emulation that the 60GB SKU offerred to save money.

However, they should've just done like Microsoft is introducing HDMI into the Premium SKU....just do it without making a big scene about it. But, I'm sure it won't be that big of a deal in the long run. Sony just has to figure out how to drop the price again on the 80GB SKU, because all the price flip-flopping is going to confuse the hell out of regular consumers.


RE: Bad Feeling
By SunAngel on 8/30/2007 12:30:23 PM , Rating: 1
Might confuse the hell out you, but someone actually buying the system won't be confused. If the 60gb is not available and only 80GB is available, the decision is not difficult at all, is it?


RE: Bad Feeling
By Spivonious on 8/30/2007 2:08:25 PM , Rating: 5
Right it's "Well I was going to get the 60GB version, but now I guess I'll just get a 360."


RE: Bad Feeling
By jrb531 on 8/30/2007 3:17:18 PM , Rating: 4
LOL that's exactly what I was thinking :)

-JB


RE: Bad Feeling
By wallijonn on 8/30/2007 3:01:19 PM , Rating: 2
For Sony to use a laptop HD, when they are promoting it as a media centre device, is ludicrous when you see that you can get a 500GB HD for slightly over $100.

I would have preferred a unit that took a 3.5" drive and didn't come with one so that I could install an HD of my own choice.

As it stands now, Sony is back to warehousing 80GB units if the prices stay at $599. Everyone will wait for Christmas time, hoping that the prices will drop. Next up, Sony introduces a 120GB unit, then a 160GB unit, then...

Yes, Microsoft blundered also by using the same laptop sized HD. Unless said unit is 7200 rpm with a minimum of 16MB of ram on it, who would want a slow 4200rpm or 5400 rpm drive in their media centres? In the case of MS, you "have" to use your PC to download media content. Lame.


RE: Bad Feeling
By Cript on 8/30/2007 7:15:02 PM , Rating: 2
they use 2.5 inch drives for the same reason laptops don't use 3.5. heat, noise, size, etc. you can use a 3.5 on a ps3 anyways if you buy the right sata cable and get it powered.

by including a hdd in all models, game developers get a guarantee that the user has a hdd.


RE: Bad Feeling
By hadifa on 8/30/2007 8:49:25 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think you are justified in your answer. Heat and noise are not there because of the size but rather, because of the speed. It is obviously possible to have a 3.5 HDD which runs at 5400 and so generates a comparable amount of heat and noise to a 2.5 inch.

If Sony have used a 3.5 inch HDD, it would have had much more capacity and would have ended up cheaper.

The only issue is the size and weight. The PS3 is not a small unit and it is a console not a laptop so the weight is not a -big- issue.

Don't compare a mobile unit like a laptop to a console like a PS3.

As a side note, I have a 400GB 7200 rpm Samsung and it is almost silent. I can't hear it when the case is closed.


RE: Bad Feeling
By Cript on 8/31/2007 2:28:35 AM , Rating: 2
your argument is moot. 5400 3.5 drives don't exist these days. even if sony were to design the ps3 with such a custom drive, an owner sticking in a 7200/10000 will introduce added vibration, noise, heat, etc that the original design was not meant to handle.

i never compared the ps3 to a laptop. i said sony and others chose a 2.5 for similar reasons laptop makers choose 2.5 drives.

you can't compare your computer case and hdd mounting to a ps3. your drive may be quiet over the noise of whatever else is around it (cpu fan etc), but it may sound different inside a ps3.


RE: Bad Feeling
By Belard on 8/30/2007 7:35:56 PM , Rating: 1
They went with a 2.5" drive for its smaller size, less heat and noise... sure they cost a bit more than a 3.5" drive, but these are gaming consoles that most people don't need 500GB of space.

I see this is a non-issue.

Unlike M$, Sony does give you a choice to install ANY 2.5 drive you want into the PS3. 2-3 screws, pop the cover and replace the drive. With an Adaptor, you can even plug in a 750GB 3.5Drive to a PS3... won't look as nice, but easily possible.

And 4200/5400 RPM 2.5Drives are fast enough. They are not loading up entire VistaOS. There is little to upload and like everything else, RPMs isn't everything. If you compare a 15GB 7200RPM drive from 7 years ago to a modern 500GB 7200RPM drive - the performance difference is there, big time. Talking 20mb per sec transfer to 60~80mb per sec.
(And yea, notebook drives are slower than Desktop drives of the same generation)


RE: Bad Feeling
By afkrotch on 8/30/2007 8:17:42 PM , Rating: 3
There is a lot to load on a PS3's hdd, depending on how you have it setup. I have I think 3 games installed onto the hdd. It helps to decrease my load times, which is always nice.

Now all they have to do is make it so that you can play without the disc. Like having a serial number built into the game and the serial number ties into your Playstation Network account. That would only take place for games installed on the hdd and when you don't have the physical disc in the drive.

If you decide to sell the game, simply remove the game from your Playstation Network account. This would disallow you from using the copy stored on the hdd. Then you can just delete it off the hdd to gain back your space.

Such a scheme would only work with the copy stored on the hdd. Whoever has the disc will always be able to play.


RE: Bad Feeling
By michal1980 on 8/30/2007 10:58:10 AM , Rating: 2
the did with the 20gb one. but changed course quickly. And the goal has been since then for a single sku.

they also want to cut costs so they cut the emition engine from the ps3 in the euro consoles. now the goal is to produce just 1 system, 80gb, that will be basically the same worldwide, once again cost cutting.

the 80gb should be 499 once the 60gb is basically gone. If the game is still in the box for 499 is anyones geuss.


RE: Bad Feeling
By Funksultan on 8/30/2007 11:57:17 AM , Rating: 4
Ken, you're forgetting the development cycle of the console.

When they were building it, 20g and 60g drives sounded like a great idea, and anything larger would have been cost-prohibitive.

There are no new technologies getting introduced (still blu-ray, wi-fi, backward compat, although hardware vs software).

Could anyone care less if there were 10 identical SKUs, with different hard drives/packages included?

I think Sony is just fine for the moment. In the big scheme of things, the horse just left the gate. After this coming holiday season, with some bigger titles, PS Home, and the ton of perifs coming out, if it hasn't broken into a run, then I'd worry.


RE: Bad Feeling
By darkpuppet on 8/30/2007 12:07:21 PM , Rating: 3
I think Sony really had no choice. They were stuck in a corner on the price point. Offering the 2 SKUs made the best of a bad situation.

I think other execs realized something that Kutaragi was too arrogant to realize -- that despite all the positive points of the PS3, the price would be too high to get them into people's houses at the rates needed to compete with the 1+ year old xbox 360.

So what do you do?

You offer a low-end SKU and hedge your bets on launch day.

That the 20Gb model was in such low demand speaks volumes on the demographics of the machine at release -- especially considering that the game library is at least a year away from being something worthy a look from your average household.

So they drop an SKU, and work towards a single global platform -- something that makes the machine more reasonable from a business standpoint... however, you have the whole issue of what was already out there.

I personally think they would have been better off dropping the price of the PS3, and continuing to offer the 60bg model, but without the EE. And then you have that spot for a value bundle with game + larger hdd.

As it stands, the new SKU offers too much confusion regarding the value-add of the bundle... the casual gamer/household may not notice the difference -- but the negative buzz generated by the online community could change that.

Personally, I don't think in the long run, you lose much by dropping the EE (I personally couldn't care as it runs the games I want), but you can get a 160GB 2.5 hdd for < $100, and you'd have just as much fun playing games like stardustHD and calling all cars (or tekken) for the $40 it would cost you for all three of those off the PSN.

I picked up a 60GB model just recently, and to be honest, it's still the better entertainment deal if you work your numbers right....

But in marketing, the 80GB SKU isn't a terrible deal, it's just not an obvious deal.


RE: Bad Feeling
By blurredvision on 8/30/2007 12:12:24 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
That the 20Gb model was in such low demand speaks volumes on the demographics of the machine at release


Here's a tip for the future: don't believe everything Sony tells you.


RE: Bad Feeling
By MonkeyPaw on 8/30/2007 12:33:57 PM , Rating: 5
I'm surprised that Sony's PR machine didn't say something like:

"Before now, you had to buy both the 20GB PS3 and the 60GB PS3 to have a full 80GB of storage space. Now Sony offers a single 80gb model for just $599. The customer now gets 2 PS3's worth of capacity for the price of only one."


RE: Bad Feeling
By SunAngel on 8/30/2007 12:37:51 PM , Rating: 2
Here is another good tip: more is lost through indecision than not.


RE: Bad Feeling
By darkpuppet on 8/30/2007 12:42:14 PM , Rating: 3
other than opening week sales figures, do you have ongoing sales figures for 20gb vs 60gb sales for Jan 2007 thru to the end of the 20gb SKU?

I don't recall there ever being a shortage of 20gb units, so I'd be interested to see how the sales numbers racked up.

I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong, but going to need more factual evidence than your handy "Future Tips"...


RE: Bad Feeling
By h0kiez on 8/30/2007 2:15:04 PM