Nearly every automaker around the globe is
looking closely at EVs and hybrids to help meet the ever more stringent CAFE
standards that are being mandated. The latest automotive company to jump on the
EV bandwagon here in the U.S. is Mitsubishi.
The car is called the Mitsubishi
i and it carries a MSRP of under $30,000 before federal
tax credits. The price after the $7,500 federal tax credit for the Mitsubishi i
will be $20,490. That makes the car one of the cheaper EVs on the market. The
EV comes in different trims with the low price being for the ES trim. The SE
trim adds features like a 360W 8-speaker sound system, leather steering wheel
and shift knob, as well as 15-inch aluminum wheels. The SE package adds $2,790
to the base price of the car.
One of the more impressive features of the
Mitsubishi i is that with the DC quick charging port the battery pack can be
recharged to 80% capacity in 30 minutes. The base car includes speed sensitive
electric power steering, 120V 9-amp charge cable, four speaker stereo, and a
100W AM/FM/CD player.
The Mitsubishi i is powered by a 63hp electric
motor and has a targeted
driving range of 85 miles.
The car will be offered first in Hawaii. Buyers in
the Aloha State will be able to get the federal rebate along with an additional
$4,500 rebate from the state.
The car went up for pre-order on April 22 with a
non-refundable deposit of $299 via PayPal due when the person orders. Buyers
will also normally have to pay a $99 inspection fee to be sure their home will
support the charging of the EV. The first 2,000 that pre-order won't have to
pay that fee though.
“We thank Mitsubishi Motors for choosing Hawaii as
one of the first states to receive the new "i" electric car.
Electric vehicles use a fraction of the fuel needed by traditional cars, so
each EV on the road means we're reducing our dependence on imported oil and
increasing our ability to reach Hawaii's goal of 70 percent clean energy within
a generation,” said Estrella Seese, Acting Energy Program Administrator, Hawaii
State Energy Office.
While the Mitsubishi i is just hitting the market,
the company plans to stop
making three models in the U.S. this August. The three models that will be
discontinued at the Normal, Ill. plant this summer include the Eclipse Coupe,
Eclipse Spyder, and the Endeavour. The Galant will continue to be made at
There have been concerns recently that the Evo
may be discontinued as well.
quote: Wait a second. You saw the picture and you still want one?
quote: When did we stop teaching American students about our Constitution, federalism, and enumerated powers?
quote: The powers of Congress are limited by what is listed in Article 1 Section 9 as being explicity not allowed. Everything else is permitted.
quote: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
quote: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
quote: The Tenth Amendment, which makes explicit the idea that the federal government is limited only to the powers granted in the Constitution, is often considered to be a truism. In United States v. Sprague (1931) the Supreme Court asserted that the amendment "added nothing to the [Constitution] as originally ratified." States and local governments have occasionally attempted to assert exemption from various federal regulations, especially in the areas of labor and environmental controls, using the Tenth Amendment as a basis for their claim. An often-repeated quote, from United States v. Darby, 312 U.S. 100, 124 (1941), reads as follows:The amendment states but a truism that all is retained which has not been surrendered. There is nothing in the history of its adoption to suggest that it was more than declaratory of the relationship between the national and state governments as it had been established by the Constitution before the amendment or that its purpose was other than to allay fears that the new national government might seek to exercise powers not granted, and that the states might not be able to exercise fully their reserved powers.....
quote: Congress only has powers delegated to it by the Constitution. The broad interpretation of the General Welfare clause you're advocating is clearly incompatible with the 10th Amendment. If you were right, there would be no additional powers "not delegated" by the Constitution, and thus no need for a 10th Amendment. Therefore must be incorrect.
quote: So yeah. Read the Constitution sometime.
quote: Great idea? Um, no. It's a absolutely awful idea
quote: Why not just take over the industry all together?
quote: Honestly, I'd rather have a government that somewhat run by the voters in control of a resource (like oil) considered a necessity rather than a company in control of not only the necessity, but also has it's hands and money all over the government.
quote: explain to me how that event didn't constitute gouging
quote: We're already paying an additional $1/gal tax- the tax simply goes to the oil companies rather than the government.
quote: I don't want the government to control any industries. If the problem is lobbying and corporate influence, then let's address that.
quote: I am arguing, however, that you're not being gouged today nor is there evidence to support that the current spike in gasoline prices is due to illegal activities.
quote: If we're comparing profit in private enterprise with government taxation, I'll choose more profit to private enterprise every single time.
quote: You ignore the idea that corporate motivation having control over necessary resources is a problem. Again, review the energy crisis if you don't believe that this is a problem.
quote: Right now, the spikes are due to speculation- which is legal. This is not a supply and demand problem- it's a speculation problem.
quote: I'm a little more thoughtful about the idea- taxation in almost every case has a strong er potential to benefit the people. Increasing corporate profit in this case does not benefit us in any way-
quote: The government might be incompetent and inefficient, but it can be controlled far more easily than a private company.
quote: This is about energy companies threatening the general public welfare through illegal, incompetent, and unjustified activity.
quote: If Honda turns a profit, they'll expand, and build another factory somewhere.
quote: That's absolute garbage. Taxation hurts everyone.
quote: It's about the federal government intervening just enough so that it can claim the market has failed, and then claims justification to interject itself even more until it has the ability to dictate your decisions
quote: This is an anecdote and is not evidence of anything that is actually happening.
quote: Show me that the oil/energy companies have expanded production and created more jobs/economic activity with their increasing profits.
quote: increase of prices on a necessity (regardless if it's taxation or speculation) hurts everyone. Taxation, however, has a stronger potential to introduce/make programs/benefits more available and/or better for EVERYONE . Corporate profits do not have that same potential.
quote: Yes, because the Bush administration forced Enron...
quote: If you're trying to make the point that the Enron execs were crooks, I agree. If you're trying to claim that they are somehow representative of all oil companies or all corporations, you're wrong.
quote: Shell Oil invests $4 Billion in Arctic (at a complete loss now, mind you)
quote: It certainly isn't just one as you are implying.
quote: Shall I list all 422 results? Books full of multiple examples?
quote: This proves what? Anybody can cherry-pick facts that suit them, all national media relies on it. You rely on it, Mick relies on it.
quote: If someone in your family was a victim of a Ford Pinto (God forbid) and your research showed that they knew the car had problems would you be so inclined to offer the opinion you're offering here and now?
quote: Yeah they're ain't much corporate corruption on this world.
quote: Did you read the post I was replying to?
quote: I also reject the notion that the current spike in gasoline prices is due to oil industry corruption.
quote: It's stock market speculation
quote: But I certainly object to your insinuation that it's everywhere, or that it's the norm
quote: So what is the cause?
quote: This is an anecdote and is not evidence of anything that is actually happening. Show me that the oil/energy companies have expanded production and created more jobs/economic activity with their increasing profits.
quote: Honestly, I'd rather have a government that somewhat run by the voters in control of a resource (like oil) considered a necessity rather than a company in control of not only the necessity, but also has it's hands and money all over the government. And if you honestly believe that people have not been gouged and manipulated by the energy industry and that they're not as big and bad as they might appear,
quote: Without speculation there is no free-market economy - only a socialist state with industry, prices and wages controlled by the government. You can ask Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea or remnants of the old Soviet Union how well that worked out.
quote: This is what comes from a limited perspective.
quote: If WE tax ourselves because it benefits us in some way, then we freely chose ie we're not slaves nor are we subjects.Also, we're the government. We elect them, we re-elect them. If they're NOT representing you, THEN STOP RE-ELECTING THEM!!!
quote: All we hear is idealistic rhetoric. In reality, as long as we all agree, there's no freedom lost or rights trampled on. That's the whole point of this country, rights and freedoms. If you have choice, you are free. If WE tax ourselves because it benefits us in some way, then we freely chose ie we're not slaves nor are we subjects.
quote: Obama has declared all out war on the "evil" oil speculators. And what has happened?
quote: Profit - the end result of speculation - is why Americans are willing to take risks with their hard-earned money.
quote: But with a well stacked deck you can profit without risk. Just ask a banker.
quote: Can you expand on that? Would prices have gone up regardless of his actions?
quote: So slap on a hefty gas tax - say $1/gallon.
quote: Staring down $4+/gallon gas at the pump.
quote: Don't ever pull up at a pump in Europe. When I filled up the other day gas was around $9.50/gallon!
quote: Regular gas is already over $5/gallon in some Cali areas...and prices will surely continue to rise this summer
quote: A sales tax of any kind is far more recession resistent than any other form of tax.
quote: And to be fair, $700 Billion of the current deficit is due to the Bush Tax Cuts.
quote: You Bush blamer 'tards just still don't get it, do you? There is only a deficit if there is more SPENDING than income.
quote: I have no idea what kind of hole he pulled that number out of, but I knew it didn't sound right.
quote: From 2004 to 2007, federal tax revenues increased by $785 billion, the largest four-year increase in American history.
quote: The Washington Times is a daily broadsheet newspaper published in Washington, D.C., the capital of the United States. It was founded in 1982 by Unification Church founder Sun Myung Moon, and until 2010 was owned by News World Communications, an international media conglomerate associated with the Unification Church which also owns newspapers in South Korea, Japan, and South America. The Times is known for presenting socially and politically conservative views.
quote: Suppose for a second the economy peaks and dips no matter what to a certain degree. Now show a timetable of those peaks and dips and add points to the timetable where all tax cuts occurred. Did those tax cuts happen during the peaks in the economy? Or where they more likely to occur during harder times, which would be followed by better times regardless?
quote: You're covering your ears mumbling "la la la la I can't hear you". Honestly, grow up.
quote: Was there even a point in there?
quote: Like or not the numbers were pulled straight from the IRS
quote: you're simply engaging in underhanded slander and more ad homenum attacks.
quote: I addressed the quality of your source
quote: Exactly how much "inflation adjustments" do you really think would matter over such a short span?
quote: No you attacked the source as a means of trying to discredit the message.
quote: I notice you aren't linking anything from a "better" source that clears this up for all of us.
quote: My post was all questions to show that you close the door on everything that doesn't suit you, eliminating even the slightlest possibility you could be wrong.
quote: But you do as you always do, expect others to believe what you state with the same ease you accepted it
quote: What you are asking of me is a MASSIVE research project
quote: Your position that I'm wrong simply because YOU can't explain why I'm right isn't winning debating.
quote: It's a well known fact. Plenty of economists repeat this
quote: I backed a statement up with third part sources, so again, I'M not just making this stuff up.
quote: You saw the picture and you still want one?
quote: here is clearly a market for small, electric city-cars that can be purchased for under $20k.