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Qualified "fiberhoods"
Neighborhoods that didn't qualify will have another chance next year

Businesses and consumers in Kansas City are excited to be among the first in the country to experience the new superfast Google fiber-optic network for broadband. Google started a six-week rally on July 26 to allow residents of Kansas City to register their interest in the fiber-optic broadband service. 
Google calls the neighborhoods that could receive its fiber-optic network "fiberhoods". Google says that three of the so-called fiberhoods reached the goal to qualify to get service on the first day the announcement was made. Google says that in the past week alone 63 different neighborhoods qualified for fiber service.
Pre-registration for the service closed as of Sunday with 180 out of the 202 fiberhoods qualified for service. Google says that the 180 qualified neighborhoods isn't the final tally. The company says it is still processing address verification requests and pre-registrations from apartment buildings and condominiums.
An official blog post from Google read:
We’ve been truly inspired by, and have learned so much from, the efforts of local nonprofits, community centers, libraries, schools, and churches to pre-register their neighbors. And we want to continue working with these groups as they promote digital literacy throughout the community. So going forward, we aim to support great organizations in Kansas City in a programmatic and strategic way, through grants and joint educational efforts focused on digital literacy. Together we will work to equip Kansas Citians with the knowledge and tools they need to get online and use the web to their advantage for education, job hunting and more. We’ll have more details about this program soon.
Google also says that neighborhoods that didn't qualify during Pre-registration will have another chance. Google says that it will include neighborhoods that failed to qualify in a future rally sometime next year where an attempt to qualify will be offered again.

Source: Google

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By Motoman on 9/10/2012 10:16:22 AM , Rating: 2
I've be happy to be able to get 1Mb DSL.

RE: yay.
By Flunk on 9/10/12, Rating: -1
RE: yay.
By BillyBatson on 9/10/2012 11:56:45 AM , Rating: 2
What a useless response.

RE: yay.
By Motoman on 9/10/2012 11:57:05 AM , Rating: 5
You find 50 acres of land in the middle of, say, Chicago where we can move the horse ranch, you let me know.

RE: yay.
By Jeffk464 on 9/10/2012 1:01:11 PM , Rating: 4
There are plenty of places in Chicago that would be better of bulldozed and turned in 50 acres of ranch. You have my vote.

RE: yay.
By dgingerich on 9/10/2012 2:22:05 PM , Rating: 2
lol, this guy knows Chicago. :)

RE: yay.
By mfenn on 9/10/2012 1:29:03 PM , Rating: 2
You can always move, no one is making you have a horse ranch.

RE: yay.
By Motoman on 9/10/2012 1:32:11 PM , Rating: 2
Oh, of course...I'll just abandon the business my wife and I built and move to the city so I can have better internet.

Here's your sign.

RE: yay.
By dgingerich on 9/10/2012 2:24:15 PM , Rating: 1
Well, there's costs and advantages to everything. If you own a ranch or farm, or even live in many small towns, then you can't get cheap, fast internet. That's just the way things work. You know the advantages to living there, though. Shikata ga nai.

RE: yay.
By Motoman on 9/10/2012 3:56:08 PM , Rating: 2
In my case, I was actually told by Centurylink that we could get DSL when we moved here.

Previously, we had a 10-acre property not far from here where we did get DSL. Could have had cable too if we wanted it.

CL told use that we'd have DSL at the new 50-acre place when we moved.

Turns out that they lied. Which such companies are wont to do. Shikata ga nai.

RE: yay.
By dgingerich on 9/10/2012 4:41:09 PM , Rating: 2
Ah, another bad story about Century Link.

When I first heard Century Link had bought the DSL ISP services from Qwest, I was hopeful they might turn things around and provide Comcast some incentive to change. Turns out they didn't. At least it didn't get any worse, as sometimes happens.

RE: yay.
By Jeffk464 on 9/10/2012 12:58:15 PM , Rating: 2
Why would they start with Kansas City?

RE: yay.
By kattanna on 9/10/2012 1:16:16 PM , Rating: 2
Why would they start with Kansas City?

maybe because they are getting such a sweet deal from the city

However, the project also will cost taxpayers of the sister cities in Missouri and Kansas along with those in surrounding counties significant monies -- possibly millions of dollars -- to give Google free access to power, rights of way and even office space.


One county in the Kansas City area charged Google nothing to hang its wires on municipal utility poles that are usually off-limits to communications companies, Campbell wrote

thats one hellva deal.

RE: yay.
By Schrag4 on 9/10/2012 1:29:14 PM , Rating: 2
I have no idea, but I'm curious why you ask? It seems to me that you imply that Google should have picked some other city to kick off this effort. Is that just my imagination, or would you like to expound on why they shouldn't have picked KC?

Or to put it another way, why not start with KC? You gotta start somewhere.

RE: yay.
By Jeffk464 on 9/10/2012 10:00:14 PM , Rating: 2
Well to be honest its not a bad city, but its not exactly the most significant city in the world.

RE: yay.
By xdrol on 9/11/2012 4:51:23 AM , Rating: 2
So they can say people without fiber "you are not in Kansas any more".

RE: yay.
By geddarkstorm on 9/10/2012 1:08:52 PM , Rating: 2
I hear you. I'm with Time Warner for 7 mbps for $77 (just internet and phone). Can't wait to get away from them. Funny how google has them quaking in their boots.

Bring it to Denver, please
By dgingerich on 9/10/2012 1:21:04 PM , Rating: 2
:( Still nothing for Denver except Comcast (horrible) or Century Link (more horrible.) I wish Google would come to Denver.

RE: Bring it to Denver, please
By Ammohunt on 9/10/2012 1:47:56 PM , Rating: 2
Not to be a fanboi but I have Centurylink Small business 7mb and couldn't be happier; my sister just switched from Comcast Cable to Centurylink DSL. Comcast had a serious problem with the node she was on and wasn't aware of it until she complained a dozen times; by the time they said they would fix it she was set on switching. Hard to believe that Comcast is so clueless about their own network as to only know of a problem when people complain. On the other hand I have called Centurylink complaining about slowness only to have the tech switch me to another trunk while i was on the phone fixing the slow down instantly. I feel Centurylink has a much better network and much better technology then the cable companies.

RE: Bring it to Denver, please
By dgingerich on 9/10/2012 2:21:22 PM , Rating: 2
That's contrary from what I've heard from 5 of my coworkers. Only two gave details, with one losing connection several times a day and the other getting <256kbps performance during peak times, while the other 3 just tell me "save your self trouble and go with Comcast."

Then there is the trouble I've had with Qwest, who owns the infrastructure Century Link is now using. I scheduled a phone line install on my new apartment at the time on the day I moved in. They didn't show, and the installer claimed I wasn't home. (Brand new account, my first place, so they can't claim they went to the old address.) I rescheduled three times, and all three they claimed I wasn't home. On the third time, I saw the guy pull into the parking lot, walk up to my door, and I was expecting to hear a knock. When it didn't come, I went outside to see if he went to the wrong place. I found a "sorry we missed you" form note on my door and him pulling away in his minivan. He hadn't even bothered with knocking. Once I finally did get it installed (there was no alternative at the time) they gave me a phone number that was just one digit from the voice mail number. I had drunk mis-dials in the early morning (2-3AM) nearly every night for all of the 14 months I had their service. When an alternative finally in my market, I got it without a moment's delay. I saw the commercial, and I was on the phone to schedule the new service before the next commercial was over.

Comcast, on the other hand, is nearly as bad. I moved into my most recent place nearly a year ago. I called Comcast to schedule the move, and they said they'd be there. Also a no-show. Same claims about me not being there. The second guy to show did claim to have hooked us up, but it didn't work. I also had to start using their cable TV, since there was a tree in the way from being able to use DirecTV. Complication after complication, but I finally got it installed and working a month and a half later. They gave me a year "discount" for the trouble, which amounted to the same deal new customers get with their TV and internet bundle. January rolls around, and all of a sudden, (on a Sunday morning, no less) my connection gets reset, pointing all my traffic to their software installation page. I don't want the crappy software (causes my system to be unstable when gaming) so I try everything to bypass. I finally created a virtual machine specifically for going to this site and installing their crappy software just so I can use the internet.

Believe me, I'd love to stop sending money to Comcast, but I have equal faith in Century Link, and between the two, Comcast does have higher usable bandwidth and lower latency just from the nature of the technology. I'd just like to see someone do it right to compete with Comcast and Century Link. Maybe things will improve with those two that way, or maybe they'll just go bankrupt. Either way would work for me.

RE: Bring it to Denver, please
By Ammohunt on 9/10/2012 3:41:52 PM , Rating: 2
I agree competition in the Denver market is win win however i have a feeling the FCC will interfere and cause it all to die on the vine. Whatever happened to verizon Fios? have they been expanding the market?

RE: Bring it to Denver, please
By dgingerich on 9/10/2012 4:33:51 PM , Rating: 2
They quit expanding in 2010, then sold some of the infrastructure and markets to Frontier Communications. I would guess it wasn't as profitable as they thought it would be.

It would be nice to have something like that.

I'm betting they're having the same problems other ISPs are having: the costs of their connections to the internet are costing them far more than they initially figured, and users are demanding more for their money, therefore it is becoming a lot less profitable.

(That doesn't account for the poor customer support from ISPs, though. Poor support doesn't cost any less than good support. They need to fire some of their poorly performing support people and replace them with people who put in the effort, do a good job, and deserve the job.)

please please...
By Iketh on 9/10/2012 10:56:20 AM , Rating: 4
please let this be a success for Google so they expand this EVERYWHERE and give meaningful competition to comcast and brighthouse and the likes.....

RE: please please...
By Jeffk464 on 9/10/2012 1:05:48 PM , Rating: 2
Is google looking into the ISP business or trying to push this as a technology. This service is pretty great but I can't really complain with my higher tear cable internet. I can always manage HD netflix, hulu, or amazon streams that look excellent, somewhere between dvd and blu-ray to my eyes. Maybe it will allow the amazon's of the world to stream 4K movies at some point, that would be pretty major.

Kansas City citizen here!
By tviceman on 9/10/2012 11:42:05 AM , Rating: 2
The other day, my wife and I checked out the google fiber store they have setup in midtown Kansas City. The TV box is separate from the DVR box, but both are combined smaller than the current time warner HD-DVR box I have. The TV box is very small and sleek. Using the Nexus 7 as a remote control and to also watch a separate TV channel at the same time is awesome.

Kansas City is very spread out, and I live north of where they are rolling out. It will take them some time to get the entire city connected. I'm hoping they'll get to my neighborhood in a year or so.

RE: Kansas City citizen here!
By sticks435 on 9/10/2012 8:54:58 PM , Rating: 2
I believe they said on the Blog that north and south KC would be in the next rally, sometime next year. I think the problem will be that we will now have to complete with all the area's that didn't make it this time.

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