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The front cover of GTA IV, slated to ship in 2008 (Source: Rockstar Games)

GTA IV box art revealed; Rock Band guitar fix promises; Halo 3 homophobes and more

Unlike some other entertainment mediums, sequels of videogames are often better than the original attempt at the concept. For Deus Ex, however, the first game was so well-crafted that its sequel had a hard time living up to the bar set by the original. Where Deus Ex 2 failed, the hopefully the next sequel will succeed.

Deus Ex 3 Announced
Eidos announced that its newly formed Montreal studio will be handling the development duties for Deus Ex 3. While the teaser trailer on the official website says little about release date and platform, it’s expected that Deus Ex 3 will appear on the PC, Xbox 360 and PS3 – given Eidos Montreal’s general manager Stéphane D’Astous saying, “We’re only working on AAA, major titles. We’re going to be developing only major AAA games, using only next-gen technology.”

Grand Theft Auto IV Box Art Revealed
The official cover that will grace the box of the next GTA game that is sure to have politicians was revealed today in the form of a video, which can be seen at GameTrailers. Perhaps more interesting than the box is news that the next GTA IV trailer will hit on December 6.

EA/Harmonix Pledge to Fix Defective Rock Band Guitars
Originally hoped to be just a software issue, a member of the Harmonix team has posted on the official Rock Band forums that the developer has “discovered an imperfection with the strum bar in an early production run of guitars that were shipped at launch.” See http://support.ea.com/rockband" rel="nofollow for more.

Black Site: Area 51 Designer Gives Brutally Honest Post Mortem
While gamers aren’t likely to be burned by BlackSite: Area 51’s disappointing critical result thanks to no shortage of excellent shooters this holiday season, the game’s designer Harvey “Witchboy” Smith is taking some exception with the less than enthusiastic reviews. Smith believes that BlackSite: Area 51 deserves an overall score of 80 percent, though admits that the game project “was so f---ed up.”

PlayStation Network to Feel PAIN on Thursday
The next highly anticipated downloadable game for the PlayStation 3 will hit the PSN tomorrow. So what’s PAIN? Associate producer Jason Coker explains, “I tell people that it’s a crazy game in which you launch a character from a giant slingshot into a downtown area and smash him into stuff and blow stuff up and you snatch Mimes out of the air so you can slam them through plate glass windows and you blast monkeys out the side of a building in an attempt to stop another player’s character from successfully crashing into bowling pins and you can play as a dude named Ed in a cow suit and so on and so on…”

Microsoft’s Major Nelson Responds to Halo 3 Homophobia
It’s no real secret that the Xbox Live populace, with particular focus on the Halo 3 crowd is a less than mature, agreeable bunch – and nothing proves it better than this video of Halo 3 players’ reactions to a player with the user name “xxxGayBoyxxx.” Microsoft’s Xbox Live voice Larry “Major Nelson” Hryb’s advice: play online only with your friends.

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Hope it's better than Deus Ex 2

By XtAzY on 11/28/2007 8:35:40 PM , Rating: 3

I hope Deus Ex 3 will be better than Deus Ex 2. The original Deus Ex is far funner than the sequel. I mean, for those who played it, I didn't have to go through so many "Loading" when travelling to different places. I wish Deus Ex 3 give us back the 'gaining experience' feature.

RE: Hope it's better than Deus Ex 2

By spluurfg on 11/28/2007 8:53:55 PM , Rating: 2

Agreed... Deus Ex was one of my all time favorite games, and in my opinion was a benchmark for what video games could really offer -- immersion, connection with the plot and characters, varying choices, etc. If they simply rehashed the dynamics of Deus Ex 1 with possibly some tweaks to combat, I would be very very happy, especially if they put the same level of effort into the story.

I wonder if it will be a sequel or prequel, storywise... I thought the first one was much nicer since I could more immediately 'connect' with the world versus the second, which seemed too far into the distant future.

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RE: Hope it's better than Deus Ex 2

By tuteja1986 on 11/28/2007 9:53:38 PM , Rating: 2

I didn't have a problem with Deus ex 2 gameplay or story line. I actually liked it more than Deus ex 1. The thing i really hated about Dues ex invisible war was that it was terrible XBOX port. It crashed allot , small zones loading, loading time , can't do alt-tab , no key for holster weapon and also you when you die you can't quick load. Some of the problem were solved with the 1.2 patch but the game suffered terribly from a bad port. But other than that , the game was actually quite good. Also universal ammunition wasn't cool.

The politics and philosoph theme of 2nd game was much better than 1st game.

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RE: Hope it's better than Deus Ex 2

By Omega215D on 11/28/2007 9:34:30 PM , Rating: 2

All those loading times were blamed on the XBOX's lower amount of memory to load maps which Eidos didn't take time to remedy in the PC version (or so I read).

I felt the original Deus Ex was far more involving than 2.

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RE: Hope it's better than Deus Ex 2

By barclay on 11/28/2007 10:19:53 PM , Rating: 2

I think the main let down with Deus Ex 2 was how small the world seemed compared to the original. I thought the story was excellent and had real potential. (JC's speech in Antarctric was incredible)

I hope the engine they use for Deus Ex 3 is capable of supporting larger levels. I'd rather have bigger levels that improve game play than prettier graphics.

In either case, I'll buy it, play it, and probably love it.

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RE: Hope it's better than Deus Ex 2

By thebrown13 on 11/28/2007 11:11:47 PM , Rating: 2

Ditto. I love Deus Ex.

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RE: Hope it's better than Deus Ex 2

By Pythias on 11/29/2007 2:31:31 AM , Rating: 2

I think it would make an incredible mmorpg setting.

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RE: Hope it's better than Deus Ex 2

By 3kliksphilip on 11/29/2007 1:19:48 PM , Rating: 2

I think that Deus Ex : Invisible War would have been twice as good if they had changed the name to something else (ie, removed the Deus Ex reference). I could talk about Deus Ex for hours- it was a truly adult game which blew me away compared to the likes of Half Life and Unreal Tournament. Half Life was great fun and cinematic, but with Deus Ex you had massive, open-ended levels, fantastic music (Particularly UNATCO, NYCSTREETS and HONGKONG) and you could PICK THINGS UP! Plus there were loads of variations of 'Stop that!' when you threw it at some one. What you did affected the game, from invading the woman's toilets (I felt quite ashamed when she told some one about it) to letting your Brother die. When I first got to Hong Kong I was overwhelmed by the scale- I was stuck on that level for a week before I found the secret place in the compartment, but I didn't care.

Deus Ex IW in my opinion, sucked. The graphics engine was inefficient, the AI wasn't very good (Still about 1000 times better than Deus Ex's, though) and the open endedness simply made the plot dull in my opinion. No matter how many times I try it, it just isn't fun. They removed the interesting bits, like jumping off skyscrapers and landing on people's heads, as well as disabling your gun in bars (and knives). Deus Ex got it just right and it's still a mysterious game to me- so long, unforgiving yet rewarding. I find areas in maps and wonder if anybody's been there before. So many useless details and places were added, it was easy to get lost, but I just didn't care. Oh I love this game so much.

I think that Deus Ex 3 will have a hard time. I hope they can pull it off, but the likes of Oblivion and Hitman have been done since the original and could detract from Deus Ex 3's impact. I don't know what they should add into the game- I don't quite know how Deus Ex was so good. The engine was excellent. Some people say the graphics were rubbish, though the vast variety of areas and massive number of allies / neutral people add to the atmosphere more than a single, perfectly rendered model could. I do believe that console releases are an evil we have to accept in order for a game to get the sales it needs. I normally hate inaccessible games, but Morrowind and Deus Ex were two I'm very, very pleased I overcame. Those aliens still scare me.

Deus Ex didn't seem like a game to me. Some of the areas were a chore, and the AI was utterly stupid. Game isn't something I'd use to describe the experience- it's so flawed, yet the most perfect experience I've ever had from a CD. So ambitious, sprawling and deep. With a lovely inventory. Words can't justify how I feel towards this game- I'd say I was a complete fan, though I'm not worried if they try to release a sequel. I'm sure they've learnt from IW which was in my opinion, shallow and unrewarding. Deailed shadows don't compensate for what hey excluded from the game.

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Deus Ex 3 Compromised - STOP PORTING

By GhandiInstinct on 11/29/2007 1:12:16 AM , Rating: 5

Consoles kill PC game graphics. It's being built for the lower denominator, so no DX10 and we'll get a mediocre DX9 game which will look shiny like Double AGent.

I wish companies split resources to make the PC what it should be, the better looking version than others. Like it used to be.

Now all ports suck.

RE: Deus Ex 3 Compromised - STOP PORTING

By FITCamaro on 11/29/2007 6:56:07 AM , Rating: 2

This is not necessarily true. If you build the framework of your game properly, its not hard to have different stuff in different versions. I mean just the 360 vs. PS3 versions have to be developed differently since the architectures are nothing alike. And the 360 is capable of some DX10 like effects.

Regardless. Graphics don't make a good game. A well done DX9 game is fine. I want story and good gameplay. Graphics add nothing to either of those. Hell I'd take a game with an awesome story and innovative gameplay that had the graphics of DOOM over a lot of the shit EA is putting out.

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RE: Deus Ex 3 Compromised - STOP PORTING

By OxBow on 11/29/2007 9:56:45 AM , Rating: 2

Considering how bad DeusEx looked in comparison to how great a game it was, I don't think your argument holds up very well.

Don't get me wrong, I like good graphics and keyboard/mouse is a much better method of controlling most games. However, I think that consoles have the power these days to deliver on a gameplay element that rivals that of PCs. As developers get used to the new consoles, then I think you'll see better quality ports and less differences between the two.

DeusEx is one of my favorite games. I can't even begin to guese how many hours I wasted playing that game. I never played DeusEx2 but I heard that it was terrible. I hope that DeusEx3 lives up to the first.

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RE: Deus Ex 3 Compromised - STOP PORTING

By goku on 11/29/2007 12:57:55 PM , Rating: 1

What's worse is that that DX9 game will PLAY like a DX10 game because console ports always result in shitty PC games.

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Fill In the Blank

By NicePants42 on 11/29/2007 10:11:17 AM , Rating: 3

quote:
the next GTA game that is sure to have politicians [] was revealed today in the form of

I'll start.

the next GTA game that is sure to have politicians holding fund raisers to support development of a sex mod "that includes the good parts this time" was revealed today in the form of...

RE: Fill In the Blank

By HaZaRd2K6 on 11/29/2007 1:50:55 PM , Rating: 2

The next GTA game that is sure to have politicians screaming for every RockStar game to be pulled from shelves and the minds of youth everywhere purged of any memory of Grand Theft Auto was revealed today...

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what a f---ing rebel

By fifolo on 11/29/2007 3:54:03 PM , Rating: 3

You can tell he's all cutting edge and subversive and stuff because he uses the f-word in public. Can you you not be f---ing impressed by this?

Harvey Smith

By diegoaac on 11/28/2007 9:24:16 PM , Rating: 2

I find funny that in the same article you are mentioning two Harvey Smith's f---ed up proyects

OMG DEUS EX 3!!!

By sh3rules on 11/29/2007 12:56:51 AM , Rating: 2

I'm psyched, because nobody could make it worse than DX2. It will be an improvement over the so-called sequel, and that makes me happy. I hope that:

1) The levels won't have so many stupid loading zones (as someone said, please make it less pretty if it means more immersion. Think Armed Assault).

2) The devs will get rid of the console feel, and put some PC-friendly interface in there. Anyone remember Oblivion vs. Morrowind? Oblivion had a BIG LIST with BIG CUTE ICONS for your inventory and BIG BUTTONS to scroll through it. I always thought the interface of Morrowind was more effective. Granted, Deus Ex had a couple of screens that hardly anyone used, but I don't play an FPS with one of those console controllers.

3) The game will have a higher difficulty setting. In Deus Ex, running up to an enemy and killing him was too easy. It should still be one-shot-one-kill, but the AI should be able to present a challenge, even when in small numbers.

Whatever, I'd be glad if they just release something close in quality to the original.

GTA VI

By isorfir on 11/29/2007 8:57:43 AM , Rating: 2

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GTA VI box art revealed;

Wow, up to six already, where have I been?

Also, it looks like the top middle guy in the GTA IV art is modeled after Jason Statham

GTA VI???

By sviola on 11/29/2007 9:07:34 AM , Rating: 2

The subtitle of the article means GTA IV, not VI

porting

By inperfectdarkness on 11/29/2007 9:57:57 AM , Rating: 2

i agree about the lowest common denominator. it's absolutely destroying pc gaming. design the pc game for the pc, and then make the console ports shallow, pale reflections of it. don't dumb down the pc for stupid consoles.

at least epic didn't sacrifice ut2k4 for the xbox.

yes, it is gta 6. no, i won't play it.

hell, if eidos wants deus ex 3 to be a console port, they could just as easily put it on the wii...where the controls will be that much more immersive. but i predict that it will suck balls. just wimpy enough to run on 360 and ps3 (and making the pc version suck) but not porting it just as easily to the wii.

the best shooters are the ones developed primarily for the pc.